The Fall, Dinosaurs, and Eden

By Casca (


On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Julian Breen wrote:

So, when DOES the Fall take place exactly? Well, according to the APG, several millenia passed peacefully immediately afterward, before the infernals discovered the Marches, learnt how to assume mortal form, escape Hell, and return to earth. Then along came the Grigori.

In the history I worked out for my game (which predates the APG), Lucifer's Fall was the asteroid that hit the Earth and caused the extinction of the dinosaurs. Not only does it provide for wonderful metaphor, it elegantly illustrates how God uses Lucifer to further His plans. The dinosaurs -had- to die, you see, so that mammals could become dominant and eventually evolve into humanity. It was their Destiny.

(Of course, Eden wasn't really a place; it was more like a state of being. Before the Apple, humanity was pure and innocent; it was in Eden. Of course, now that it's been mythologized into a garden paradise, Eden now exists in the Marches. It's still closed off, guarded by a cherub with a flaming sword, probably a ranking Servitor of Purity.)

-- Casca, Seraph of Archives (

"...I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of His robe filled the temple. Above Him were seraphs, each with six wings: with two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying...At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook, and the temple was filled with smoke." -- Isaiah 6:2,4


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