in_nomine-digest Saturday, August 25 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2347 In this digest: Re: IN> An interesting announcement Re: IN> 403 Access Denied IN> RE: in_nomine-digest V1 #2346 Re: IN> An interesting announcement Re: IN> An interesting announcement Re: IN> An interesting announcement Re: IN> An interesting announcement Re: IN> RE: in_nomine-digest V1 #2346 Re: IN> An interesting announcement Re: IN> An interesting announcement Re: IN> An interesting announcement Re: IN> An interesting announcement Re: IN> 403 Access Denied Re: IN> An interesting announcement Re: IN> An interesting announcement RE: IN> An interesting announcement ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 15:05:12 -0500 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> An interesting announcement Emily Dresner-Thornber wrote: > However, angel anime seems to actually be a sub-genre known as "utterly> incomprehensible angel-based anime that is probably cool if you're read> the manga in Japanese but makes no sense to use lame gaijins but often> features people with big wings chopping up other people with big wings." Funny, I thought that described most anime, albeit the wings part is optional. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:03:57 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> 403 Access Denied At 12:29 PM -0700 8/24/01, Marcus Evenstar wrote: >I've got no access! WAH! > >I just needed a few PCs for my Dragonflight game so I went to the IN >Character Encyclopedia. But I get Code 430 Forbidden. > >It's going to be too late for Dragonflight since I'm leaving in a few >minutes. But I would like to know to get there. I've got a Pyramid >subscription and everything! Well, the www.incyclopedia.org isn't an official site, in that it's totally fan-run. You'd have to find the site's admin and ask him what's up. O:< - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 13:06:08 -0700 From: "Steven Feldon" Subject: IN> RE: in_nomine-digest V1 #2346 Just so that you all are aware of this, I _have_ contacted Sage about the fact that the INcyclopedia has been down for days, if not weeks. I assume the new server upgrade still has him (her?) seriously busy, because there's been no response, but it's changed from 404 to 403, which at least means that the server knows it should be serving that domain. I assume you all will notice it coming up as soon or sooner than I will, but . . . . steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:07:57 -0400 From: "S.D." Subject: Re: IN> An interesting announcement >> and arguably the original in Sailor Moon the world of Angels has very little >> to really do with Anime aside from being mysterious and interesting to >> Eastern audiences. > >And X, Earthian, and Angel Sanctuary. And Wish. And Tenshi ni Narumon. And it influences Shoujo Kakumei Utena (then again, what doesn't?) and, oddly enough, Digimon (TK/Takeru's partner, plus several others). And generally a lot more anime then you would think of. If we expand into religion in general (a la Aa! Megami-sama), RG Veda comes to mind. CLAMP uses Christianity/Judaism (sp?) in most of its works, so you can pretty much assume that any given CLAMP work will have *some* influence (be it as minor as Yue's appearance in Card Captor Sakura, or as major as Wish in its entirety.) I can think of two series off the top of my head that include the Sephirot. Digimon, again, takes a lot of the names and appearances of the Digimon from various religions/mythologies. There are a lot of angelic-influenced or -based anime. What's based on other religions/mythologies fits Ethereals, and the rest of it can rather easily be attributed to one Superior or another. (Bubblegum Crisis and BGC Tokyo 2040 would be Jean and Vapula, just to give an example.) In Nomine Anime has a lot of potential, especially for an angel-based anime fanatic like me. ^^ And if you adapt it to GURPS, I bet INA will provide a good way to mix a few GURPS-edited RPGs together... ~S.D. Ryukage http://fly.to/sd_nexus/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Those whom God would destroy, He first makes mad. Or, alternatively and perhaps more effectively, He first makes them sane. Aldous Huxley ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 20:13:34 +0000 From: "Jo Hart" Subject: Re: IN> An interesting announcement >From: David Edelstein >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: Re: IN> An interesting announcement >Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 15:05:12 -0500 > >Emily Dresner-Thornber wrote: > > However, angel anime seems to actually be a sub-genre known as "utterly> >incomprehensible angel-based anime that is probably cool if you're read> >the manga in Japanese but makes no sense to use lame gaijins but often> >features people with big wings chopping up other people with big wings." > > >Funny, I thought that described most anime, albeit the wings part is >optional. > > That's because you chop them off? jo http://www.e-sheep.com/apocamon/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 13:28:44 -0700 From: Ryan Elias Subject: Re: IN> An interesting announcement Emily Dresner-Thornber wrote: > However, angel anime seems to actually be a sub-genre known as "utterly > incomprehensible angel-based anime that is probably cool if you're read > the manga in Japanese but makes no sense to use lame gaijins but often > features people with big wings chopping up other people with big wings." You've obviously (I mean, apart from your reference to it early) seen Angel Sanctuary ("Angle No Entry Zone") then. Watched the first couple of episodes, twice, and found that I had no clue whatsoever as to how it might be In Nominized. What appears to be a complex plot, further obfuscated by a completely incomprehensible translation. To the point where I got more out of the spoken Japanese (I think I'd just finished 1st year Japanese at the time) than the English subtitles. And to you wet blankets (one of the Jasons and Janet?) how does the chance that this might lead to other genre booklets sound? Cheers, Ryan, who'd personally like to see IN by Gaslight ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:29:47 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> An interesting announcement Further, a 32 page book on In Nomine: The Purity Crusade >could give us some good basic rules on running games in this time, >plus a canon Uriel writeup, and so on, and so on.... >-- >Eric Alfred Burns THIS, I like. I may(-ish) buy In Nomine Anime, but then I'm slow to buy the books anyway. However, the In Nomine: The Purity Crusade sounds keen. (It'd probably require the EPG first, though. Oh well.) William ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:06:36 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> RE: in_nomine-digest V1 #2346 At 1:06 PM -0700 8/24/01, Steven Feldon wrote: >Just so that you all are aware of this, I _have_ contacted Sage about >the fact that the INcyclopedia has been down for days, if not weeks. It _did_ get shifted over to be hosted on the sjgames machines? Woo! No one told me? Or Mariel's ghost wandered? - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 21:22:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> An interesting announcement - --- Whistling in the Dark wrote: > In Nomine Anime represents several things for the > line: 5 (or maybe 3.1): Think of it as bait: it'll get a whole new bunch of people interested for just long enough for certain members of this list to proceed apace with the mass Seduction to The Dark Side thingy. :) Moe "Who, me? I'm sweet and innocent, remember?" Lane ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 07/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 10:58 +0100 (BST) From: jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) Subject: Re: IN> An interesting announcement In article , wjk150@email.psu.edu (William J. Keith) wrote: > >Further, a 32 page book on In Nomine: The Purity Crusade > >could give us some good basic rules on running games in this time, > >plus a canon Uriel writeup, and so on, and so on.... > THIS, I like. I may(-ish) buy In Nomine Anime, but then I'm slow to buy > the books anyway. However, the In Nomine: The Purity Crusade sounds > keen. (It'd probably require the EPG first, though. Oh well.) Hear, hear. - --- John Dallman jgd@cix.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 10:58 +0100 (BST) From: jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) Subject: Re: IN> An interesting announcement In article , jadasc@ma.ultranet.com (Jason Schneiderman) wrote: > So it's official, then, that I'm the one wet blanket whom this > announcement doesn't thrill? Well, no. I'm afraid I dislike Anime as deeply in my soul as it has so far reached. I'm sure Genivive will do a good job of it, but really, the concept is about as exciting as _IN: TV Cooking Programmes_ to me. - --- John Dallman jgd@cix.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 10:33:00 -0300 From: pbarkow@is2.dal.ca Subject: Re: IN> An interesting announcement On 25 Aug 01, at 10:58, John Dallman wrote: > In article , > jadasc@ma.ultranet.com (Jason Schneiderman) wrote: > > > So it's official, then, that I'm the one wet blanket whom this > > announcement doesn't thrill? > > Well, no. I'm afraid I dislike Anime as deeply in my soul as it has so far > reached. I'm sure Genivive will do a good job of it, but really, the > concept is about as exciting as _IN: TV Cooking Programmes_ to me. That was handled rather well back when we were doing the series of Michael's Challenges, actually. "For instance, my dog says he'll quite miss humanity. But then, my dog says a lot of things." Philip Barkow pbarkow@is2.dal.ca http://is2.dal.ca/~pbarkow/ Harbinger of Keener-sama Vice President DPG Official Fashion Consultant and Hentai of the DGML Shameless Faith/Buffy shipper. Lapsed Discordian Head of the Keiko-chanian faction Hug Guy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 11:38:00 -0700 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: Re: IN> 403 Access Denied > At 12:29 PM -0700 8/24/01, Marcus Evenstar wrote: > >I've got no access! WAH! > > > >I just needed a few PCs for my Dragonflight game so I went to the IN > >Character Encyclopedia. But I get Code 430 Forbidden. > > > >It's going to be too late for Dragonflight since I'm leaving in a few > >minutes. But I would like to know to get there. I've got a Pyramid > >subscription and everything! > > Well, the www.incyclopedia.org isn't an official site, in that it's > totally fan-run. You'd have to find the site's admin and ask him > what's up. O:< Well . . . crap. Where's the Illuminati when you *need* it? (Lilith? What are you doing here?) - -Perry perrylloyd@hotmail.com pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu http://www.geocities.com/perrylloyd "The man who strikes first admits that his ideas have given out. " - --Chinese Proverb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 13:11:53 -0400 From: Mike Bruner Subject: Re: IN> An interesting announcement At 10:33 AM 8/25/01 -0300, you wrote: >On 25 Aug 01, at 10:58, John Dallman wrote: > >> In article , >> jadasc@ma.ultranet.com (Jason Schneiderman) wrote: >> >> > So it's official, then, that I'm the one wet blanket whom this >> > announcement doesn't thrill? >> >> Well, no. I'm afraid I dislike Anime as deeply in my soul as it has so far >> reached. I'm sure Genivive will do a good job of it, but really, the >> concept is about as exciting as _IN: TV Cooking Programmes_ to me. > >That was handled rather well back when we were doing the series >of Michael's Challenges, actually. Heh, says something about this list that when I saw the comment I thought "somebody on here probably already DID IN: TV Cooking Programs" :). - -- Mike Bruner-- bruner@delaware.infi.net I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 02:40:12 -0400 From: damienw@juno.com Subject: Re: IN> An interesting announcement On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 13:11:53 -0400 Mike Bruner writes: > > Heh, says something about this list that when I saw the comment I > thought > "somebody on here probably already DID IN: TV Cooking Programs" :). Actually... wasn't that the point of the comment? I *know* someone mentioned Michael in an Iron Chef-style situation... "Today's secret ingredient: Balseraph hearts!" - --- damienw[et]juno.com "To kill a man between panels is to condemn him to a thousand deaths." - Scott McCloud ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 22:10:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: RE: IN> An interesting announcement On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Christopher Gerkey wrote: > > So it's official, then, that I'm the one wet blanket whom > > this announcement doesn't thrill? > > I must admit, I'd rather see the EPG. I'd rather see the EPG first, but given that this one is just a little 32-pager, I can see why this one got priority. Cheaper to print, and helps promote the new "mini-book" concept. But I'd still rather get the EPG. - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! "Ninety-nine percent of life is what you make of it, so if your life sucks, you suck." -- Mike Muir ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2347 ********************************