in_nomine-digest Friday, August 31 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2352 In this digest: Re: Fwd: Re: IN> Next Month's Theme Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) Re: IN> Valefor's Daughter Re: IN> On Lightning Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) IN> An IN Poem... IN> Fantasy Month - Fantasy Race[s] Re: IN> (fantasy) On dragons Fwd: Re: IN> On Lightning Re: IN> On Lightning Re: IN> Fantasy Month - Fantasy Race[s] Re: IN> On Lightning Re: IN> Fantasy Month - Fantasy Race[s] Re: IN> An IN Poem... Re: IN> Heretical Archangel of Flowers Re: IN> Fantasy Month - Fantasy Race[s] Re: Fwd: Re: IN> Next Month's Theme IN> Iron Rev 3 Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) Re: IN> Fantasy Month - Fantasy Race[s] Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) Re: IN> On Lightning Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:26:49 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: IN> Next Month's Theme At 5:31 PM -0400 8/29/01, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > > >>Hm. >>I'd rather not go into why, but I'd be unable to participate in such >>a thing, and in fact would likely u n s u b scribe during it. This is not >>a reason *not* to do IN Space, but I'd vote for almost anything else >>first. >> >> >>Then let's not. I am all for everyone to have fun with the list. I certainly >>am and would not want it spoiled enough that anyone should feel they would > >have to leave/u n s u b scribe. > > Oh, *please* don't think that. It sounds like a great topic. As Jo surmised, I'm in the middle of developing something for it to try and sell to the Powers That Be, so I'd just slip out during the discussion on the list. (So I didn't end up inadvertantly stealing other folkses good ideas and claim them as mine, mostly. ) - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Impudite of Secrets -- or Mercurian of Revelation (candidate for the Word of Obscurity) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 20:40:10 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) > Little Fuzzy. > > Dear Christ, now I have to hurt someone. Badly. I think it has to be Moe. I can slap him for you this Sunday, if you like. Bidding starts at $19.95..... - -- Casca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 21:26:00 -0400 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) > I can slap him for you this Sunday, if you like. Bidding starts at > $19.95..... It's a new game for the In Nomine Carnival! Whack a Moe! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 01:33:16 +0000 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) > > I can slap him for you this Sunday, if you like. Bidding starts at > > $19.95..... Hmm ... Beth, could this be a new way to increase the line's cash flow? Janet Anderson (As Moe knows, in an organization which shall remain nameless, high-ranking members have been known to volunteer to be hit with shaving-cream pies to make money for said organization's worthy causes. No, Moe, I did not. I offered, but was told I didn't have enough enemies to make any money ...) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:46:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) - --- Whistling in the Dark wrote: > At 7:07 PM +0100 8/29/01, John Dallman wrote: > > > it's not too surprising that his writeup is a > little fuzzy... > > > >You get a perverted pleasure out of hiding clues in > the open, don't you? > > Yes. That reminds me: must add "Hurt someone's brain" to Heresy's Rites... > Little Fuzzy. > > Dear Christ, now I have to hurt someone. Badly. I > think it has to be Moe. Yes, yes, I will know fear, I will know pain, then I will die, it's not like I haven't had people hiss *that* at me before... ;) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 07/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:14:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) - --- Earl Wajenberg wrote: > Okay, Moe, is he H. Beam Piper? It's the right > initial, he > wrote famously about parallel timelines, and he > committed > suicide. Why he'd be ticked and Janus, I don't > know. Normally, I'd just post the Tattered webpage, but it's being revamped at the moment... :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 07/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:05:37 -0700 From: Charles E Smith Subject: Re: IN> Valefor's Daughter A physical or conceptual object intended to drive the plot. If the boss informs the PCs that there's a demon of Technology on the loose with a VapuTech ray gun capable of turning bats into giant bat-soldiers, the ray gun is the MacGuffin. If the story is about quarantining an escaped carrier of a Jordite plague (and we're going to be *talking* about that later, Mr. Archangel), the carrier (or possibly the plague) is the MacGuffin.<<< Thanks! ^_^ ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:05:05 -0700 From: Charles E Smith Subject: Re: IN> On Lightning Regarding primality in general among Elohim, remember that they had to start *somewhere*. The first Elohim didn't have Aristotle and Pascal to back up their arguments. ;^)<<< Also, let's not forget the Elohim of Animals. I'd imagine that they have to be pretty primal to suit Jordi's tastes. :) ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:09:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Earl Wajenberg wrote: > Okay, Moe, is he H. Beam Piper? It's the right initial, he > wrote famously about parallel timelines, and he committed > suicide. Why he'd be ticked and Janus, I don't know. Because he was a refugee from the Tattered parallel universe that we're working on over on the other mailing list. :) Tattered is also, as far as I know, the only IN universe explicitly designed as a parallel one.... - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! "Anything sounds profound if you put it in quotation marks and sign it Anonymous." -- Anonymous ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 20:12:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) - --- "Rev. Pee Kitty" wrote: > Tattered is also, as far as I know, the only IN > universe explicitly > designed as a parallel one.... Pretty much, yeah. Star-Trek "Mirror, Mirror" style, at least ... which reminds me. Larry's got one of those goatee beards, right? ;) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 07/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 01:29:08 -0300 From: pbarkow@is2.dal.ca Subject: IN> An IN Poem... In a darker setting, it isn't a nice thing to be a Malakite in love. You wish to know about who I am? Very well, I shall tell you. Not just about who I am, but about what I am. There is a young lady I know She is beautiful, talented and kind These things are true She is also a messy eater and a poor student These things are also true I desire her Body, mind and soul I happily spend hours listening to the sound of her voice But I also want to drip melted chocolate onto her naked body, Watching as she struggles helplessly against her bondage I can not do this I am bound By honor and guilt It hurts to think it To take a step towards making it a reality, would be crippling But I also want to protect her To prolong her every joy To banish her every pain With my own blood, if needed Even these things I must do sparingly For she understands debt So I let her repay me with small things They are beautiful, and I treasure them sincerely But I want so much more Oh how I want That is who I am That is what I am I am desire bound by chains of guilt and honor "As far as I'm concerned, it was and ever will be "Margaret" Bison." Philip Barkow pbarkow@is2.dal.ca http://is2.dal.ca/~pbarkow/ Harbinger of Keener-sama Vice President DPG Official Fashion Consultant and Hentai of the DGML Shameless Faith/Buffy shipper. Lapsed Discordian Head of the Keiko-chanian faction Hug Guy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:23:49 +1100 From: "james walker" Subject: IN> Fantasy Month - Fantasy Race[s] To finish off Fantasy Month, a few variations on zombis: GHOULS Zombis are often abandoned: left for dead, sent on one way missions, given orders and forgotten. Other outlast their creators, or were created purely out of spite. Most of these zombis wander aimlessly until destroyed. A handful, driven by Obsessions or Hatreds, form small communities which exist as mockeries of the living. These zombis are known as Ghouls. Ghouls are simply zombis which have their own society. Ghouls hunt as packs, seeking humans to devour. Ghouls only eat the part of the body which their Need requires; the remainder of the corpse is dumped in a public place. Most mortals assume that this is done to terrify them; in fact, the goal is to attract other zombis with different Needs. A zombi who Needs the same substance as an existing pack member will not be welcomed into the pack (unless a corpse can provide sufficient substance for two {eg kidneys} or more {eg blood} Ghouls) - the pack will devour the zombi the way they would any other victim. The pack's goals are determined by it's leaders Obsession/Hatred. Note that the leader is unlikely to be able to motivate the pack with Fast-Talk or Emote; their Will-less nature means that only the most skilled can do so. Status in a Ghoul pack is normally dependant on the Savoir-Faire(Ghoul) skill;this skill revolts the living but is essential among zombis. Additionally a leader will need to be skilled in Tactics and will pander to the weaknesses of the other ghouls - many have secret Fears, which can be exploited; or Lust for the living. Those who are Angry or Murderous rarely need persuasion to wreak havoc on the leaders enemies. If a Ghoul pack survives (and once they have learned to hunt as a pack, they can survive for centuries) they swiftly grow powerful as they learn each others skills and Songs. Having high Corporeal Forces, Ghouls often become skilled at Stealth & Throwing; they all have at least one Numinous Corpus; an old Ghoul is often a Virtuoso, knowing several NC at level 6. Some packs know other Songs. Ghouls are surprisingly skilled dancers - it is a useful skill for their Songs, and on of the few social skills they can possess. A successful pack may feed at sunset and then spend the next 24 hours dancing together in preparation for their Songs, ready for the next hunt. This is how the legend of the Danse Macabre began. THE RISEN Rumoured to be the first of the undead, the Risen are zombis animated by the ghost of the corpse. A ghost who chooses his corpse as an anchor may make a Will roll at a penalty equal to his Total Forces; success animates the corpse and creates a telepathic bond between the two minds (which invariably drives both insane, but hey!). The zombi isn't, strictly speaking, under the control of the ghost; however the fact that they have identical minds makes control unnecessary. Destroyinging a Risen can be achieved in a number of ways. The simplest is for someone to animate the body as a zombi - this disrupts the ghost's link and forces it to find a different anchor, or abandon the Corporeal plane. The Animate Zombi ritual does not need to be successful; the Last Rites of many churches are actually stripped down versions of the Create Zombi ritual, used to prevent the corpse returning as either Risen or Zombi. Destroying the zombi, by combat or Exorcism, will also destroy the Risen. However, doing so completely destroys the ghost, whose Forces were interlinked with the Forces of the Zombi. Finally the Risen can be destroyed by persuading the ghost to abandon the Corporeal plane. If the ghost choses to accept their final reward, the zombi takes a Body Hit of damage for every day it has been active; if it is not destroyed by this it is treated as an ordinary zombi, acquiring it's Need/3. (Other than not having that Need, the body of a Risen is treated the same as a zombi; the ghost is a standard ghost). THE GUARDIANS Zombis kept the Disadvantages they possessed in life (excepting Addictions, which they cannot feed, and so must forcibly withdraw from). So occasionally a Necromancer finds themselves with a Selfless, Merciful or Pitying Zombi. These are normally destroyed as useless, but some survive and their Disadvantages drive them to help their 'fellows'. The living rarely tolerate their existence, and never their presence; however a zombi which takes up residence in a cemetery or necropolis can fulfill a useful and appreciated role as a tomb guardian. Even if unwilling/unable to kill, these zombis can usually chase off robbers; in regions where offerings are made to the dead the zombi may have it's Need provided daily. These zombis are rarely powerful, having been abandoned soon after creation. The exceptions are the zombis created from the corpses of Soldiers of God, who (in addition to having six Forces) often know useful Songs, including Healing and Thunder. Many tombs have become the sites of pilgrimage after becoming the homes of Guardians who use their Songs of Healing on the mortal guardians of the tomb. James. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:27:46 +0000 From: "Jo Hart" Subject: Re: IN> (fantasy) On dragons >From: "Rolland Therrien" > >I'd assume Belial would be publicly challenging either Prince's claim on >the >control of Dragons, since they're Obviously destructive Fire-based >creatures, and so are under HIS dominion. Maybe he's planning on >dissecting >a few of the less controllable Dragons, so as to give some of his better >Servitors Dragon-shaped Vessels. That's a good thought. Since his word loosely covers anything destructive, he isn't limited to those that have fire-based powers. (From what I can gather, mythological dragons either breathe fire or poison if they breathe anything at all -- other breath-weapons are a D&D invention.) Although he'd need to be sure he really had his dragons under control -- and they are notoriously difficult to handle; wouldn't do to be burned by one's own weapons, after all. I'd reckon that any of the Princes would happily recruit any useful entity that they encountered. A slinky dragon-lady could keep Andrealphas amused for awhile. Malphas would be intrigued by a hydra. Mammon loves hoarders, and dragons would be a natural fit, as long as the dragon didn't try to steal from the Prince of Greed, or prevent him from poking through its hoard when he felt the urge. A dragon who could be taught to collect ghosts or renegade demons for its "hoard" might be popular with Asmodeus (especially for hunting down renegades who flee to the Marches.) Vapula probably wants to initiate a #3 BBD (build better dragons) project, since the first two failed so spectacularly. The main reason I singled out Baal and Beleth is that I figure they're the most likely to be arrogant enough to stake a claim to ALL dragons found. Beleth because they're ethereals, and Baal because he is the general of Hell's Armed Forces and tends to throw his weight around when it comes to claiming anything with any military potential at all. But also, there are sorcerors around who can summon and control ethereals. It would be a very brave sorceror who would try to summon a dragon, and he might get a shock if the dragon was young, feisty, and didn't have good control of its powers. Plot Seed: PCs are sent to investigate a city in which a spate of fires has broken out. It will turn out that there are some red herrings here to work through ... a) A couple of insurance fraudsters has been setting fire to buildings so that their clients can claim insurance. b) A cherub of fire has been out punishing the cruel in his own inimitable style. c) A gang of demons of theft have been hitting the town every month or so, staging demolition derbies, joyriding, and burning homeless people alive just for kicks. (Or maybe only one of them is vicious enough to flay and burn victims, the others are just easy-going vandals.) d) The pair of Asmodeans who are hot on the trail of (c) e) A young firedrake who has a worrying tendency to spontaneously cause fires when he loses his temper. >How to handle the Return of the Dragons could be Laurence's biggest >challenge as Commander of the Host yet. > Angels love angst. It makes them feel worthy. jo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:13:02 +0000 From: "Jo Hart" Subject: Fwd: Re: IN> On Lightning >From: "Janet Anderson" > The word >implies the >preeminence of instinct, as opposed to thought; while Jean may have an >elemental Word, his Elohite nature requires that instinct and elemental >nature take second place to thought, conscious decision, and will. > I always think that Jean (and many of his angels) are considered to be terrifyingly hasty by other Elohim, not to mention addicted to overkill. He is impatient. When he acts, he acts swiftly and decisively. He's quite content to strike the first blow, as long as it's the only blow. Other archangels are relieved that he doesn't take too much interest in celestial politics, because it might leave the seraphim chamber as a smoking ruin. ("Problem solved. Now I must get back to my lab, as I have work to do.") And he does it all in cold blood. Now, the reason that none of this causes major dissonance is that it all makes perfect sense, if you value your time and hate wasting it. There may be no point in spending an extra day musing over a course of action if you are already reasonably sure that you know what you need to do. So Jean is frighteningly good at assessing risks, focusses very tightly on his own goals (as opposed to collatoral fallout -- if the ends are important enough, then everyone else can work that out later), and is prepared to make lightning-fast decisions if he doesn't think that the extra time spent in consideration would make much difference. It's easier to do this and be right every time if you have superhuman intelligence and know when to trust your instincts (for sure, Elohim have instincts; the most effective ones use them as additional data when making decisions, carefully examined for personal bias.) He expects this of his angels too. They aren't usually roasted for making erroneous decisions (everyone makes mistakes), although they should know not to waste time fretting if they aren't sure about something and simply ask for advice instead. An angel who regularly acts indecisively is more likely to be pulled from Earth duty than one who is too hasty. And even Jean isn't always right. He has made mistakes in the past, even some quite spectacular ones (frex, he underestimated Vapula very badly in the early 19th century), but none of those mistakes would have been mitigated from simply taking more time to think. It can be quite elemental. Like lightning itself, which takes a while to build up before it strikes. I think he's a more interesting character if he isn't played as a by-the-book Elohite. And he doesn't need to be dissonant to do it. jo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 06:04:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> On Lightning - --- Charles E Smith wrote: > Also, let's not forget the Elohim of Animals. I'd imagine > that they have > to be pretty primal to suit Jordi's tastes. :) In the case of that example, remember that their Choir Attunement links them to reptiles -- in other words, cold-blooded creatures. Which indicates that, even while being primal, they must remain divorced from overt emotionality. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The next time someones says "Talk is cheap," remind them of how much Oprah Winfrey makes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 06:09:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Fantasy Month - Fantasy Race[s] - --- james walker wrote: > GHOULS James, you have succeeded in making Zombis even ickier. My hat is off. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The next time someones says "Talk is cheap," remind them of how much Oprah Winfrey makes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:02:29 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> On Lightning Janet Anderson wrote: > It's very difficult to think of the words "Elohite" and "primal" in > the same sentence. Jordi, Novalis, and Janus are emphatically primal; > Gabriel can be but is restrained by being the prophet of God's will. > The word implies the preeminence of instinct, as opposed to thought Emotion, urges, and instincts connote primality, certainly, but there is a drier, colder kind of primality, too -- the primality of necessity and logic. "This HAS to be done." "It MUST be this way." No matter what anyone or anything *feels*. Lightning LOOKS like it strikes at random, but actually, it always seeks the path of optimum conductivity. It can seek that path through invisible, trackless air, which makes it very surprising to mortal senses, but it always has its "reasons." Think of the stereotypical "lightning reasoners" of fiction, like Sherlock Holmes. Not only is their speed surprising, but so are the turns to their logic, though -- if you ever get an explanation from them -- they turn out to be lucidly rational. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:11:43 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Fantasy Month - Fantasy Race[s] Centuries-old zombi packs, eh? Given that they're basically *dead*, won't it become a pack of roving skeletons fairly soon, unless some body knows the Song of Healing or an equivalent trick? Earl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:13:56 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> An IN Poem... Very good. It would almost do for an emotionally unbalanced cherub, too. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 08:09:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Heretical Archangel of Flowers - --- Charles Phipps wrote: > The Rose King > Archangel of Flowers Six Distinctions?!? Can he grant Novalis' old Distinctions, or do the holders of same simply retain them and his Servitors can only get the new ones? If the latter, that's cool. If the former, that's really broken. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The next time someones says "Talk is cheap," remind them of how much Oprah Winfrey makes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:22:39 -0400 From: "Jeffery Watkins" Subject: Re: IN> Fantasy Month - Fantasy Race[s] wow, WoW, WOW! That was fantastic. Thank you. This goes great with the "Saminga's Bloodknights" plotline I have going on, where Saminga is assembling an undead version of the Hellsworn. Using GURPS Bloodtypes and other sources, each Bloodknight group will be composed of a type of undead. Many thanks, this was very creative and well written. I liked how you grouped them, how their organization works and the other types of Zombies. They aren't just for shooting up as mindless hordes. Jeffery _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:23:37 -0400 From: "Jeffery Watkins" Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: IN> Next Month's Theme >>>Then let's not. I am all for everyone to have fun with the list. I >>>certainly am and would not want it spoiled enough that anyone should feel >>>they would >> >have to leave/u n s u b scribe. >Oh, *please* don't think that. It sounds like a great topic. As >Jo surmised, I'm in the middle of developing something for it to try >and sell to the Powers That Be, so I'd just slip out during the >discussion on the list. (So I didn't end up inadvertantly stealing >other folkses good ideas and claim them as mine, mostly. ) Oops. My misunderstanding. I hope what you are doing sells! Best Wishes, Jeffery _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:34:57 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: IN> Iron Rev 3 I reiterate, has anyone heard who won IR3? - -- Casca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:23:21 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) At 1:33 AM +0000 8/30/01, Janet Anderson wrote: >> > I can slap him for you this Sunday, if you like. Bidding starts at >> > $19.95..... > >Hmm ... Beth, could this be a new way to increase the line's cash flow? Well, if Moe agrees, I could always run the idea past SJ... O:> - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:26:59 -0400 From: Daniel Sauve Subject: Re: IN> Fantasy Month - Fantasy Race[s] On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:23:49 +1100, "james walker" wrote: >To finish off Fantasy Month, a few variations on zombis: (Shudders, wordlessly hands over 3 esscense and a "Summon Eli for Free" card.) - -- Your GM Daniel Sauve (in nomine, shadowrun, earthdawn, hero unlimited) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:57:49 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) > >> > I can slap him for you this Sunday, if you like. Bidding starts at > >> > $19.95..... > > > >Hmm ... Beth, could this be a new way to increase the line's cash flow? > > Well, if Moe agrees, I could always run the idea past SJ... I believe he's going to be at Arisia this year, and so will I if I can swing the fundage. Howabout we use Cameron's idea and set up a "Whack a Moe" booth? Sort of like a cream pie toss or dunking booth, only with a foam boffer. - -- Casca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:54:58 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) At 4:57 PM -0400 8/30/01, Eric Bertish wrote: > > >> > I can slap him for you this Sunday, if you like. Bidding starts at >> >> > $19.95..... >> > >> >Hmm ... Beth, could this be a new way to increase the line's cash flow? >> >> Well, if Moe agrees, I could always run the idea past SJ... > >I believe he's going to be at Arisia this year, and so will I if I can swing >the fundage. Now *this* is shaping up nicely. We could have a Flying Wedge of Arisian IN players at the rate we're going. - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Impudite of Secrets -- or Mercurian of Revelation (candidate for the Word of Obscurity) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 18:27:39 -0400 From: Walter Milliken Subject: Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) At 16:57 -0400 8/30/01, Eric Bertish wrote: >> >> > I can slap him for you this Sunday, if you like. Bidding starts at >> >> > $19.95..... >> > >> >Hmm ... Beth, could this be a new way to increase the line's cash flow? >> >> Well, if Moe agrees, I could always run the idea past SJ... > >I believe he's going to be at Arisia this year, and so will I if I can swing >the fundage. Howabout we use Cameron's idea and set up a "Whack a Moe" >booth? Sort of like a cream pie toss or dunking booth, only with a foam >boffer. I don't think there will be enough in_nomine-l people at Arisia to make it worthwhile. Unless people are *really* annoyed at Moe. Do I hear $50 a whack...? Maybe we should just auction Moe off on e-bay.... [Elizabeth and I will probably be on panels this year again, since Io-chan should be old enough to not require constant attention now. We had to pass last year.] - ---Walter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 18:44:13 -0400 From: Walter Milliken Subject: Re: IN> On Lightning At 16:45 -0500 8/29/01, Earl Wajenberg wrote: >Michael Walton wrote: >> >> --- Earl Wajenberg wrote: >> > Never heard of thunderwyrms, but if they throw lightning, >> > isn't that clearly connected to Jean, Archangel of >> > Lightning? >> >> I was thinking more the association with weather. >> Besides, they'd be a bit primal for Jean's taste. > >This brings up a feature of Jean that I think gets neglected. >He IS primal. He's Lightning. He's also the patron of >science and technology only (1) by a metaphorical extension >of his Word similar to the extension of Flowers to peace and >mercy, and (2) because someone had to take up the slack when >Raphael died. I agree with the primal aspect of Lightning. However, I've always seen him as the embodiment, by slight extension of his Word, of the forces that govern the corporeal universe, and especially the electromagnetic force. Thus, he is also the one who understands most about how the corporeal universe functions; hence science and the advancement of scientific knowledge comes under his Word. I don't see him as taking up the slack when Rafe died, so much as the notion that the two of them, both Elohim under Yves, split the load: Jean was scientific knowledge, while Rapheal primarily handled the aspects of knowledge related to humans and society -- the humanities. These aspects probably reverted to Yves after Rapheal kamikazied. This may explain why the pace of physical scientific knowledge has vastly outstripped the social sciences -- Yves people are overworked, and without a Word-bound Archangel leading the effort, haven't really been able to encourage this type of knowledge as much as they should. Or maybe Rapheal's Servitors just lost heart.... - ---Walter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:26:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) - --- Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > At 1:33 AM +0000 8/30/01, Janet Anderson wrote: > >> > I can slap him for you this Sunday, if you > like. Bidding starts at > >> > $19.95..... > > > >Hmm ... Beth, could this be a new way to increase > the line's cash flow? > > Well, if Moe agrees, I could always run the idea > past SJ... Hey! No fair using my weakness (help raise the cash flow) against me. :) Anyway, in answer to other posts, I am going to be Arisia-bound this year. In fact, I'll be in Boston for the week (90% of my relatives there, you see) and then going to Genericon, where I shall be a panelist on working in existing worlds. _Why_ I was asked to do this is convoluted, but blame EDG and you won't go far wrong. ;) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 07/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:50:56 -0400 From: Jason Schneiderman Subject: Re: IN> John the Baptist, he ain't. (But he *is* Cadre, among other things.) >Anyway, in answer to other posts, I am going to be >Arisia-bound this year. In fact, I'll be in Boston >for the week (90% of my relatives there, you see)... And there was much rejoicing. Jason, Arisia regular (that's with cream and sugar, I suppose) * * * * * Jason Schneiderman jadasc@ma.ultranet.com ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2352 ********************************