in_nomine-digest Tuesday, September 11 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2370 In this digest: RE: IN> GIN Rules, Rulings, clarifications & descriptions Re: IN> Successors: War, Part 6 - The Archangel IN> Iron Rev IV: Let us go then, you and I... Re: IN> Iron Rev IV: Let us go then, you and I... IN> The Subroutine System seed IN> Re: The Sandman Re: IN> Iron Rev IV: Let us go then, you and I... IN> Nothing says loving like Chocolate Chip Manna Cookies in the oven... Re: IN> Iron Rev IV: Let us go then, you and I... RE: IN> Iron Rev IV: Let us go then, you and I... Re: IN> Successors: War, Part 6 - The Archangel IN> When I grow up... Re: IN> Iron Rev IV: Let us go then, you and I... Re: IN> When I grow Up - Malakim Re:IN> Successors: War, Part 3 - The Casualties Re: IN> Successors: To Reign in Hell RE: IN> Successors: To Reign in Hell Re: IN> When I grow Up...V Re: IN> Iron Rev IV: Let us go then, you and I... Re: IN> Error in passing out credit RE: IN> GIN Rules, Rulings, clarifications & descriptions Fwd: Re: IN> When I grow up...Part I IN> Okay in VA IN> Checking in Re: IN> Nothing says loving like Chocolate Chip Manna Cookies in the oven... Re: IN> When I grow up... Re: IN> Okay in VA Re: IN> Checking in IN> About this Angel of Cooking ... Re: IN> Successors: To Reign in Hell Re: IN> Iron Rev IV: Let us go then, you and I... Re: IN> Okay in VA Re: IN> Okay in VA IN> Successors: Sade, Prince of License ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:51:26 -0400 From: Mike Bruner Subject: RE: IN> GIN Rules, Rulings, clarifications & descriptions >(Demons shatter their Hearts, and are no longer bound by dissonance >conditions -- maybe habit, but not dissonance. Angels, whose Hearts They would still be able to gain dissonance for their Choir though, right? >only crack, _are_! But it can be assumed that Laurence is not so likely >as Asmodeus to wish to inflict massive amounts of dissonance upon his >Servitors, should they stray from the path. Kill them, maybe, but not >make them likely to Fall...) Except for those REALLY dark campaigns of course ("Hmm, maybe we can get those demons if they're out recruiting; there's this one worthless Outcast right near a good ambush point..."). Hey, it's not like those disloyal wing-clipped bozos weren't going to Fall sooner or later anyway; why not have it happen when it's useful to you?... - -- Mike Bruner-- bruner@delaware.infi.net I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:07:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Successors: War, Part 6 - The Archangel (Contemplation of story line) (pause) (decisive nod as decision made) Neat-o. :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 07/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 00:22:40 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Iron Rev IV: Let us go then, you and I... An extremely good idea Moe and if it doesn't get in the In Nomine collection (provided it's ever updated) then that particular body of work no longer serves any purpose whatsoever. In other words I absolutely loved it. Alfred is a very interesting character and it might prove interesting to wonder what would happen if Dominic takes him on as a servitor....and suddenly Alfred and Dominic start to get close...real close. Alfred after six months is at Dominic's side and frankly has replaced Bronwyn, the Grand Inquisitor, and the Angel of Mercy as his major Dormo. Well not the cat of course....but Sparkles is attuned to by Alfred so thats okay. Now what if Dominic's royal advisor starts encouraging Dominic to get more agressive in the War. Unfair judgement may include starting to hand out sentences meant to effect the War instead of the direct person involved....Justice becomes less than blind in order for the "greater good" and then you realize that Asmodeus is the Master of the Game for a reason. - -Charlemagne _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 01:55:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> Iron Rev IV: Let us go then, you and I... On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Maurice Lane wrote: > No elaborate leadup: I'm kissing 10K as it is. Didn't need it. DAMN, this is good. Best Iron Rev I've seen from you yet, and my favorite one in a while.... - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! :: Prayers are like junk mail for Jesus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 00:51:51 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> The Subroutine System seed Inspired by the "Alfred" post... Enigma P. Witherspoon, Seraph of Destiny is presently the most wanted man in all of Heaven and Hell. The problem is of course is that no one in Heaven, Hell or even Enigma P. Witherspoon entirely knows that he is essentially the answer to the Life, the Universe, and Everything (and he's only 42 years old!). Enigma P. Witherspoon was fledged just a few weeks ago while he was dusting the Library of Yves and working on his personal model of the universe. Once he figured out how this particular "truth" worked that would resolve all the problems of the planet he would journey to his first assignment and spend many years teaching the truth of the Symphony to worthy mortals and his fellow angels. Well the Library is a very strange creature and as Enigma was figuring out his model properly, the Library allowed him to jimmy the lock on the "Special Room" when Enigma in his foolishness just assumed some fool had locked the door to his room (he was so busy on his model that he never thought of it and he personally never believed Yves would deny any being knowledge and it was all an elaborate misunderstanding of information). In the Special section of the Room he read the Writings of the Grigori, the Testament of Lucifer, the Dread Book of Fate, and compared notes with the Metatron's Holy Citings and other "normal" texts.... and simply left the room content with his new information. Enigma being a bit haunted by his thoughts decided to observe a few things in Heaven, Earth, and Hell and in order to do that broke his heart-content that Yves would accept him back once this was done (believing your master is omniscent has the unfortunate side effect of forgetting to ask permission-or it could be someone is manipulating his actions). Yves noticing his missing Reliever has also noticed... A Seraph at one of his tethers talked with an Outcast and fell the next day.... A nearby Tether of Malphas was visited by a celestial spirit and promptly all 17 demons living at the place have redeemed or commiting soul-death suicide.... A servitor of Khalid has cut out his tongue and refuses to speak with his Archangel until he is done praying for a year and day.... and other strange events.... The Subroutine System Enigma P. Withers has put together a rather short treatise that finally answers the question of why God isn't seemingly very active recently, whether or not Angels and humanity have free will, and waht the purpose of the Universe is. Yes you read that right, no re-reading that won't change it. Enigma's theorum is simply that every single Angel in Heaven is actualy a "projection" of their Archangel and his thoughts and feelings. Quite literally every Superior is constantly thinking everything of what their servitors are doing they just have so much running they can't always deal with it. Free will is an illusion for angels (and demons) because they are merely expressions of a current attitude and mindset that their Superior holds. It is quite likely that the Archangels themselves are merely similar programs with the Demon Princes's hearts broken either indicating that they are "corrupted files" acting on their bad programmed in traits until cleansed and reformatted (you can tell Enigma loves computers) or operating on a divine plan either way. In any case they cannot change save as the system allows. In that sense they are just like outcasts (Enigma's theory is that the Demons serve as part of the divine plan while the renegades are lost programs though as he himself is working on a divine plan he is still evaluating his facts) Humanity itself is a special case and the "main program" running in the Symphony at present. Specifically humanity is a calculations programming that is tallying up every possible personality and lifestyle in existence until God has a reasonable case to universal understanding of all things possible. For things that would require bending infinity the Marches of course exist along with Hell (which allows similiar horrors to be inflicted that would disrupt the whole) When the program is ended all souls will be uploaded back into the mainframe of God but until that point God is effectively running too many applications to be directly involved in Symphonic affairs. His calculations are rough but his treatise also gives him a basic idea of when Armageddon and the final tidying up of the universe as God is reintegrated completely is finished. *wait* Done. Now here's the most ironic part that makes this adventure seed useful for even people who hate the Subroutine System seed. Enigma was all ready for corporeal service with training, a vessel, and a few other knick nacks....but the most important one.... Was the "Divine Logic" attunement. Which makes sure that of course this theory explains everything... - -Charlemagne _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 01:01:20 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Re: The Sandman > That wouldn't be "And the Children Shall Lead," by any >chance? Yes indeed, that was always one of my favorite Star Trek episodes because like the one with Jack the Ripper it was one of the few ones I thought which really gave a good idea of what a Demon would be like even in space. Something about "Gorgon" the "Friendly Angel" struck me as Habbalah in that he seemed physically worried about the children's need for worship. Though of course he was an alien sucking it up :-) but let's see Spock give a better defination for a demon. > This guy is eeeee-vil. I think you'd have to add Zadkiel >to the list of AA's who want his blood. Well Zadkiel is concerned probably with Natural disasters, Famines, and etc enough to keep her busy as it is. I'm fairly sure the Sandman (the man couldn't serve any other Prince than Beleth really) would be high on any angel who encountered him's "people to murder when I get my hands on him." as well. Heck the guys definately a candidate for "Beyond the Pale" as far as Novalis is concerned I'm sure (though he does love children....shudder) So I sum it up as Blandine (Who is most offended by the corruption of innocent dreams), Laurence (Who seeks quality kills as opposed to Michael's quantity-plus is more prone to personal vendettas and has a legion gaurding the Marches of his troops), and Christopher (a demon who preys on children is naturally on his hit list-a demon who makes Children into Hellsworn is a distinction and word support for his death waiting to happen) - -Charlemagne _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 01:14:25 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> Iron Rev IV: Let us go then, you and I... > Didn't need it. DAMN, this is good. Best Iron Rev I've seen from you yet, > and my favorite one in a while.... Which means, of course, that YOU need to submit one, Rev. So far we've only got three entries, and unless one of them gets revised it'll be disqualified for being over the limit. - -- Casca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:28:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Nothing says loving like Chocolate Chip Manna Cookies in the oven... Hmmm. Aside from the Smurfs, I've been doing stuff with a bunch of gravitas lately. Can't have that. ;) Moe Erzulie Seraph of Creation IST the Sword (this year, at least) Vassal of Conscience, Vassal of Flowers Angel of Cooking Corporeal Forces: 4 Strength: 8 Agility: 8 Ethereal Forces: 6 Intelligence:12 Precision: 12 Celestial Forces: 6 Will: 12 Perception: 12 Word Forces: 15 Vessel: human female/2, +1 Charisma Skills: Cooking/6, Dodge/3, Enchant/6, Fighting/3, Knowledge (Recipes/off the scale), Large Weapon/3 (ladle), Savoir-Faire/3, Small Weapon/6 (knife) Songs: Fire (Corporeal/1), Healing (All/3), Might (All/3), Sensation (All/3), Shields (All/1), Solace (all/3), Succor (all/6, virtuoso) Attunements: Seraph of Creation, Malakite of Creation, Elohite of Creation, Seraph of the Sword, Seraph of Flowers, Seraph of War, Abracadabra, Trans u b stantiation, Scabbard, Heavenly Judgement, Vassal of Conscience, Vassal of Flowers, Angel of Cooking Angel of Cooking: To semiquote Terry Pratchett, Erzulie is the sort of cook that can cause people to promise to be better people if they could have just one more bite. She cannot cook badly. No ifs, ands or buts: this angel can make anything organic taste good (indeed, no one is about to bet that she can't make inorganic things taste good, either). That's the default setting. When she's trying to outdo herself, well, with a Precision -2 roll (and 4 Essence) she can create a meal that will remove one point of dissonance from the deserving. Discord only gets removed on favorable Interventions - but fairly solid rumor has it that eating one of her meals keeps you from unfavorable Interventions for the next eight hours, so you never know. Rites: Feed at least 20 people. Create a new, tasty recipe (+2 Essence) Artifacts: Well, Eli gave her a ladle that he made himself. Legend has it that it's got all sorts of useful things bound up into it: nobody's been dumb enough yet to make her use it in anger, which is probably wise... Well, nobody in Heaven is a Glutton, of course, but they do like a good meal, now and then. It's Heaven, after all. You know, that entire milk and honey thing: it's part of the background. But you haven't had milk and honey until you've had Erzulie's Milk and Honey-Glazed French Toast. Or her Buttermilk and Honey Biscuits, or her Honeycombed Potato Skins with Sour Cream, or ... look, until you've had anything prepared by the Angel of Cooking, trying to describe the gustatory delights is futile. The mere smell of her kitchen can staunch blood loss, banish hangovers and cure arthritis: the taste of her food absolutely requires Heaven's unique dimensional structure for proper enjoyment. Archangels scheme, plot and connive to get her to cater their parties, as a certain musing on the origins of the above Attunements and Songs might suggest. Actually getting her to work semi-exclusively for one Superior for any length of time is usually a feat worthy of an epic (and a certain amount of smugness). Currently, Laurence has a death grip on her services: he happens to be a superb cook herself (to the point where she'll let him into her kitchen and let him use her utensils), which is generally considered to be highly unfair. Not that she's perfect, by any means. For example, Erzulie is possibly the worst actor in Heaven: she knows that cooks are supposed to be bad-tempered and ins u b ordinate, and she tries her best to emulate this stereotype, but even the relievers aren't fooled. Indeed, she's one of the most relaxed Seraphim in Heaven. She has mastered the art of singing badly, at least: unfortunately, she just can't seem to get the hang of double entrendres (to quote Pratchett again, they're usually single entrendres, and proud of it). If there's a genuine flaw in her personality, it's her seeming inability to recognize the most elementary dangers in life. Erzulie will think nothing of going to extremely dangerous places on the corporeal plane, just because she needs one particular spice or food item (Trans u b stantiation will do in a pinch, but the flavor's always missing something, somehow). She also doesn't quite seem to grasp the concept that demons aren't always just confused and waiting for someone genuinely nice to come up and explain to them the errors of their ways. When her current Superior does let her go shopping, it's always with a suitable backup. Laurence is considered to have a doubly unfair advantage in this: Erzulie sometimes trusts him with the shopping list. Yes, he goes personally. If you ever tasted her pumpkin pie, you wouldn't ask why. Now, at this point, the spectre of the Demon Prince of Gluttony appears as ... by God, yes, a ghost at the feast. He'd just love to see what the Angel of Cooking tastes like, right? After all, she's been almost marinating in culinary goodness for centuries, so the flavors must be amazing. At least, that was the reasoning recently espoused by one of Haagenti's most influential Barons. I say, was, as Haagenti proceeded to throw said Baron into a wall so hard that it was deemed easier to just slap a new coat of paint over him. Serves him right for assuming that Haagenti was an idiot. The Prince can reason, after all: no more Erzulie means no more Chocolate Chip Manna Cookies. Erzulie is the only entity on three planes that can make Chocolate Chip Manna Cookies that won't wreck Haagenti's digestion. The Prince of Gluttony (through a long, convoluted and deeply secret process) once managed to get a whole dozen Chocolate Chip Manna Cookies. He made them last a week before he broke down and ate the last one (and the plate, and the table, and the floor, and eventually just about everything else in the room that might have had one last little molecule of chocolate manna goodness attached to them). Erzulie is on Haagenti's Do Not Eat list. Needless to say, in a Oops campaign the Archangel of Gusto will pile so many Attunements, Rites and Songs on Erzulie that she'll have difficulty moving. The cookies are even better when you have an angelic palate... ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 07/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 03:40:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> Iron Rev IV: Let us go then, you and I... On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Eric Bertish wrote: > > Didn't need it. DAMN, this is good. Best Iron Rev I've seen from you yet, > > and my favorite one in a while.... > > Which means, of course, that YOU need to submit one, Rev. So far we've only > got three entries, and unless one of them gets revised it'll be disqualified > for being over the limit. Arrrrgh. :) Between "Iron Rev" and "Successors" and "Name that Demon" and "When I Grow Up" and the other mini-threads that spawned off of the "Successors" line, I feel this vague, unpindownable Need to write, but can't focus on where... Hmm... noise in the head, dark languages, and pit love... okay, I'll let it percolate. How long do we have? (Can't do it tomorrow - that's my real life IN game, donchaknow...) - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! STEP 21. Frost the nuts. Big bag of nut in grocery store, why are they there? There for buying, and then to frost. Much like cake frosting, nut frosting sweet and smooth. Spread much like butter, but without grease and bubble. Allow nut to dry, then place on very best noodle tray. While allow for nuts to dry, think about new form of punishment. No frost for nut go bad, so take away and replace. ("How To Become A Famous Rock Star", LMNOP) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:43:54 +0800 From: "Manny Nepomuceno" Subject: RE: IN> Iron Rev IV: Let us go then, you and I... Being freshly line-administratively bonked for going over the size limit, I'll send mine in in a day or so... Don't hold your breath. ;) Manny Neps > > Didn't need it. DAMN, this is good. Best Iron Rev I've seen > from you yet, > > and my favorite one in a while.... > > Which means, of course, that YOU need to submit one, Rev. So far > we've only > got three entries, and unless one of them gets revised it'll be > disqualified > for being over the limit. > > -- Casca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 06:54:10 -0400 From: Amanda Kilgore Subject: Re: IN> Successors: War, Part 6 - The Archangel Heh, thanks Moe. I feel like I may have taken a few too many liberties, but hey. It's not like it'll ever see print or anything. Maurice Lane wrote: > (Contemplation of story line) > > (pause) > > (decisive nod as decision made) > > Neat-o. > > :) > > Moe > > ===== > Liber Licentiae Moeticae: > http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html > > Last updated 07/29/01(this is usually way out of date) > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:04:32 -0400 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: IN> When I grow up... ...I want to be an Ofanite! What does it take for a Reliever to fledge into a Wheel? What is Heaven looking for when they start mulling over which Reliever is best suited for this job? Not very much. But what they want asks a lot. The first thing that the aspiring Ofanite must have is a love of motion. This may seem blindingly obvious, but it's more than a love of going from Point A to Point B in a straight line while ignoring Obstacles C, D, and E. They must love being constantly in motion. From the joy of flying around the Groves to zipping along the streets of the Eternal City, the Reliever should find joy in constantly having their wings moving and seeing new places QUICKLY! *ahem* Sorry about that....The Ofanim's personalities tend to rub off on you if you hang around them long enough. The first quality is easy enough to find in Relievers though. They are the ones who push ahead of everyone else like excitable children when an angel needs a message delivered. They are the ones who are talking so fast that people wonder if the local espresso warehouses are missing a shipment. A wise angel takes these Relievers aside and focuses their energies on doing something at all times. The second trait that is necessary is an ability to process information just as rapidly. An Ofanite in Celestial form is impressive when it blazes across the sky but in Corporeal Form it's going to smack into walls, cars, people, telephone poles... You get the idea. A Wheel needs to be able to move fast, but they need to be *aware* of the world around them. They need to know if they can clear that barrier or if they should go around it. And they need to know within a heartbeat (Of course, the average Ofanite's heartbeat is around 120 beats per second which makes this even more impressive). Basically, a Reliever that wants to be a Wheel needs to be fast on his mind as well as his feet (Wings, whatever). So when you put those two things together, you get a Reliever with boundless energy, a need to move and the ability to zip around corners with a smoothness and confidence that leave people speechless. The final tests for them are fascinating to watch as well. A Reliever is given a task of delivering a message to someone within a set time frame. Searching the usual spots proves useless and no one knows where the person is. Within a few minutes of this, something is triggered inside of the Reliever. They begin to look within themselves and then send that energy outwards. Without knowing how, they just know that the person they are looking for is..right...THERE! By the time the Reliever makes it to the person, their bodies have begun a shift in mind and body as the Symphony opens up for them in a way that they have never really felt. And shortly thereafter, Heaven welcomes a new Ofanite into it's service. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:07:20 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> Iron Rev IV: Let us go then, you and I... > Hmm... noise in the head, dark languages, and pit love... okay, I'll let > it percolate. How long do we have? Till Saturday at midnight. If I get enough of a hue & cry, I could be persuaded to extend it another week. - -- Casca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 05:55:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> When I grow Up - Malakim That Malakite need for restraint is an often overlooked aspect of these characters. Thanks for pointing it out. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The next time someones says "Talk is cheap," remind them of how much Oprah Winfrey makes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 06:00:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re:IN> Successors: War, Part 3 - The Casualties - --- james walker wrote: > Don't be silly, she can't keep writing if you do that! Oh, sure, throw that in my face... 0:> ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The next time someones says "Talk is cheap," remind them of how much Oprah Winfrey makes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 06:06:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Successors: To Reign in Hell - --- EDG wrote: > Jareth > Lilim Prince of Artifice Huh. I never would've went Lilim with this one. But then, that's why I threw it out like that; to see what other people would do. Love the Band Attunements. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The next time someones says "Talk is cheap," remind them of how much Oprah Winfrey makes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:16:47 -0400 From: "Adams, David" Subject: RE: IN> Successors: To Reign in Hell From: Michael Walton And their Words were Artifice, Condemnation, Deceit, Desire, Excess, Fear, Taking, Violence and Winter. And Kobal looked upon his works and said, "Now we're cookin' with gas!" There's the setup. Anybody want a crack at any of these, go to it! I've got dibs on Winter, though. I want Taking. Dave Calabite Servitor of Taking ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 06:20:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> When I grow Up...V Did I say how much I'm enjoying this series? If they ever do a 2nd Edition APG/IPG, this stuff should be in it.* *OK, maybe not, but y'all know what I mean! ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The next time someones says "Talk is cheap," remind them of how much Oprah Winfrey makes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:57:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Iron Rev IV: Let us go then, you and I... - --- "Rev. Pee Kitty" wrote: > > > On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Maurice Lane wrote: > > > No elaborate leadup: I'm kissing 10K as it is. > > Didn't need it. DAMN, this is good. Thanks. Moe "Yeah, I pretty much responded to this so that I'd have an excuse to demonstrate that neither I nor my girlfriend were in any real danger this morning" Lane ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 07/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:20:02 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Error in passing out credit Janet Anderson wrote: > Someone (I think it was Earl Wajenberg but I'm not sure) once > wrote a vignette about a Malakite fledging that was so beautiful > it made me want to cry. I still have it somewhere. Speaking of credit where it's due, that wasn't me. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:45:26 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: RE: IN> GIN Rules, Rulings, clarifications & descriptions At 11:51 PM -0400 9/10/01, Mike Bruner wrote: > >>(Demons shatter their Hearts, and are no longer bound by dissonance >>conditions -- maybe habit, but not dissonance. Angels, whose Hearts > >They would still be able to gain dissonance for their Choir though, right? Their Band, yes. That's intrinsic to their natures. Word-related dissonance was fuzzier, and it finally got pinned down on Hearts. Freedom's dissonance, as usual, breaks the rules; however, the queen of Geases undoubtedly knows how to work a binding into a willing subject's being. >>only crack, _are_! But it can be assumed that Laurence is not so likely >>as Asmodeus to wish to inflict massive amounts of dissonance upon his >>Servitors, should they stray from the path. Kill them, maybe, but not >>make them likely to Fall...) > >Except for those REALLY dark campaigns of course ("Hmm, maybe we can get >those demons if they're out recruiting; there's this one worthless Outcast >right near a good ambush point..."). Well, _really_ dark ones, sure. But if you're that dark, you'd better be shattering your Heart before you go Outcast, angel... - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:52:02 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Fwd: Re: IN> When I grow up...Part I >Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:51:34 -0500 >Subject: BOUNCE in_nomine-l@lists.io.com: Admin request of type /\badd me\b/i at line 4 > >From: "Janet Anderson" >Subject: Re: IN> When I grow up...Part I >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 01:47:42 +0000 > >>Still... why are all my friends betting on Mercurian? >> > >A d d me to the betting pool. > >(I enjoy these. In my opinion, the angels are better than the demons, but >they're both nice.) > > >Janet Anderson > >* * * * >Beware the anger of a patient bard. > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:40:15 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: IN> Okay in VA > > Moe "Yeah, I pretty much responded to this so that I'd > have an excuse to demonstrate that neither I nor my > girlfriend were in any real danger this morning" Lane Likewise here. Though getting home will be a trick, since the Pentagon exit is close to where I live. Am I the only one having "Feast of Blades" flashbacks? Perhaps I'm just twisted, but it's more likely that's how I'm dealing with this shock and outrage right now. Ryan, if you're okay, please call or email me. Thanks. - -- Eric ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:32:42 -0400 From: Amanda Kilgore Subject: IN> Checking in I guess we should check in too... Cam and I are OK, if spooked. My office had a fright when something flew low over us, but it was US military. At least our commutes are only 3-5 miles each. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:40:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Nothing says loving like Chocolate Chip Manna Cookies in the oven... - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > Erzulie > Seraph of Creation IST the Sword (this year, at least) > Vassal of Conscience, Vassal of Flowers > Angel of Cooking Oh, sure, make me choke on my sandwich, Moe. Serves me right for reading this on my lunch hour. The way I see it, the only person who might possibly have anything against Erzulie is the Ethereal whose name she stole. But I suspect that one chocolate chip manna cookie would fix even that. 0:> ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The next time someones says "Talk is cheap," remind them of how much Oprah Winfrey makes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:44:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> When I grow up... - --- Cameron McCurry wrote: > ...I want to be an Ofanite! This is just too kewl! ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The next time someones says "Talk is cheap," remind them of how much Oprah Winfrey makes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:44:32 -0400 From: "Jeffery Watkins" Subject: Re: IN> Okay in VA People at our work were sent home too. Didn't realize there were others on list from VA. Thanks Moe for letting us know. I am still in shock as I imagine many of us are and hoping my roommates, one who does work in DC gets home soon. Be well all. Jeffery _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:48:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Checking in All's clear in San Antonio as well. Though the FedEx driver who dropped off packages where I work (as the shipping dept. head, no less) made a joke about ticking packages. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The next time someones says "Talk is cheap," remind them of how much Oprah Winfrey makes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:52:56 +0000 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: IN> About this Angel of Cooking ... I really like this, but I have some quibbles: 1. I think the Angel of Cooking should be a Mercurian, since it's most likely that the celestial who would be most interested in cooking would be the celestial who had an interest in humanity, since celestials don't have to eat. I can't see a Seraph, even one who liked human (or celestial) food, taking enough interest in it to become Word-bound to it. 2. This angel, whatever her Choir, would not spend her time hanging around Heaven; she'd be on Earth, promoting her very powerful Word. She'd have other angels as subordinates (Angel of Nutrition, Angel of Desserts, Angel of Health Food*) and her work in the War would be combating the influence of Haagenti, as well as in embodying Novalis' theory that people who are happy won't be as likely to follow demons. Janet Anderson *When we had the Iron Rev about Yoghurt, I thought about the conflict between the Angel and Demon of Health Foods, but someone else came close to it first. * * * * Beware the anger of a patient bard. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:46:18 +0000 From: "Fallen Seraph" Subject: Re: IN> Successors: To Reign in Hell >Jareth >Lilim Prince of Artifice Not what I initially though of when i saw the Words. if nobody minds i'd like to do a different take on Artifice. Not that I don't like this one, Its great. but I have other Ideas. - -FallenSeraph What? Is Man merely a mistake of God's? Or is God merely a mistake of Man's? http://eternalcity.freeservers.com ICQ: 110193631 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:07:13 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Iron Rev IV: Let us go then, you and I... From: "Maurice Lane" > > Moe "Yeah, I pretty much responded to this so that I'd > have an excuse to demonstrate that neither I nor my > girlfriend were in any real danger this morning" Lane Good to hear from you, Moe. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:37:11 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Okay in VA From: "Eric Bertish" > > Am I the only one having "Feast of Blades" flashbacks? Perhaps I'm just > twisted, but it's more likely that's how I'm dealing with this shock and > outrage right now. We all deal with situations like this in our own ways. Please, if anyone on this list can give blood, PLEASE find a location near you where you can donate. http://www.redcross.org/ is the American Red Cross' homepage, and you can find a place to give blood through there. Sorry about being off-topic, but right now this is how I'm coping with what's happened. God help us all. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:37:11 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Okay in VA From: "Eric Bertish" > > Am I the only one having "Feast of Blades" flashbacks? Perhaps I'm just > twisted, but it's more likely that's how I'm dealing with this shock and > outrage right now. We all deal with situations like this in our own ways. Please, if anyone on this list can give blood, PLEASE find a location near you where you can donate. http://www.redcross.org/ is the American Red Cross' homepage, and you can find a place to give blood through there. Sorry about being off-topic, but right now this is how I'm coping with what's happened. God help us all. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:12:34 -0400 From: "Jason F. McBrayer" Subject: IN> Successors: Sade, Prince of License I wasn't all that excited about the Successors idea, but this idea came into my head and had to be written out. ---------------------------------------- Sade, Shedite Prince of License The world is the mollusk of your choice...and I'll give you a wide assortment of knives with which to open it. Sade, a Shedite, was granted the Word of License while a Captain of Diabolical Delight. Its personal symphony resonates to strains of selfish freedom: freedom without responsibility, without regard for the freedoms of others, without regard for law, morality, or good taste. With a powerful word and the backing of Andrealphus, Sade rose to become a Duke of Lust. It was at this point that Lilith began taking a serious interest in it; that is to say, her position on Sade went from ``watch it to make sure it doesn't become a threat'' to ``destroy it at the earliest possible convenience.'' She would certainly have done so -- Andrealphus' favor only counts for so much -- if certain inconvenient circumstances had not intervened. It's often stressed that Lilith retained her her humanity, despite being granted a Word and a Principality. In retrospect, it seems that no one truly understood the implications of this. Lilith did possess all the powers of a Celestial Superior, and certainly had no shortage of vessels. She even had lost a vessel now and then, suffering only the brief Trauma allowed by a Superior Will. But, and this is the important thing, she had never really died. She wasn't a damned soul (yet), or some kind of Superior-level anti-Saint; she was the Human (and quite mortal) Princess of Freedom. Her original body was special; she couldn't dissolve it into potentiality like any other vessel. For over twenty thousand years, she walked the earth in her natural form, along with whatever other vessels she chose to manifest. Until, quite randomly and meaninglessly, she was hit by a bus. She died instantly. If Lilith's soul has shown up in Hell, no one's letting on. She certainly achieved her Fate; it's just barely possible that she achieved her Destiny as well, and has either dissipated into the Symphony, or is due for another ride on the Wheel of Karma. If the latter, it could be interesting when she comes back. In Lilith's absence, Sade felt safe to petition for a Principality, with the quiet support of Andrealphus, who felt that it would be useful to have Lilith's chair filled by someone over whom the Beautiful Prince has a hold. For his part, Lucifer seems to have felt that Freedom was too potentially useful to Heaven to allow to remain uncorrupted for long. However, Lucifer notably did not grant Sade the Word of Freedom; it is unclear whether this is because he did not wish to, or because he couldn't. Perhaps he simply wanted to maintain plausible deniability should Lilith show up. Where Lilith's Word had gray highlights, Sade's is unrelievedly dark. Sade's servitors think nothing of going back on a deal if they think for a minute that it will benefit them; Marc and his servitors cannot do business with it as they did with Lilith. On Earth, Sade's Servitors work to promote selfish, irresponsible freedom, especially freedom for the strong at the expense of the weak. Given Sade's Andrealphan heritage, it's not surprising that it tends to focus its efforts on promoting sexual license, but it's beginning to broaden its approach to include all sorts of excess and abuse. Sade sees itself as a suave, elegant Corrupter, the very antithesis of its slime-dripping bandmate Saminga. In fact, it sees itself as being more suave, stylish, and human than even any of the Impudite princes (except possibly Andre). This isn't actually quite true, but its time surfing from mind to human mind has given it quite a bit of insight into what humans want, and what they're willing to do to get it. Sade expects similar grace from its Servitors; though unlike Andre, Sade recognizes the urge to violence as a natural impulse, and one that must be indulged. It also realizes that style must be appropriate to context; its more rough-hewn Servitors can be found trashing hotel rooms with Hardcore. In general, Servitors of Sade are not very nice people: the friendliest Impudite of License is the kind of person who will cut you off on the highway while talking on the phone (and the nastiest Calabite of License would kill you because he thought you looked like your liver would be particularly tasty). No offense is too small or petty for Sade. Many of his demons have gained favor merely by being persistently rude, though it still appreciates really wholesale and excessive acts of selfishness. Oh, the name? There's a persistent rumor, especially among dammed souls in Shal-Mari, that Sade is, in fact the damned soul of the Marquis de Sade. This is patently false; Sade is a Shedite, not a human, and humans can never become demons. Of course, the more sophisticated version of the rumor says that the demon Sade was made partly from the forces of the damned nobleman. This is probably also false, but is also very hard to disprove, given that de Sade was known to have achieved his fate and been claimed by Andrealphus, and that the damned soul is no longer seen in Shal-Mari. Of course, it's more likely that de Sade was handed off to some nameless Calabite of Lust to be lovingly force-stripped after Andre tired of him. Nevertheless, Sade is something of an icon for damned souls, in much the same way that Haagenti is for gremlins and familiars. Dissonance It is dissonant for a servitor of License to s u bmit to or recognize any authority (excepting that of their Prince). If a Sadeite is arrested by mortal authorities or the Game, it's a fair bet that they'll have to be dragged away in chains (or Will-shackles). Band Attunements Balseraphs Balseraphs of License all know the Celestial form of the Song of Charm, and succeed in its performance without a roll. Djinn (partially restricted) Sade's Djinn gain a note of essence for depriving someone of a pleasure, if the demon can then enjoy that pleasure itself. If the Djinn is attuned to the victim, this never counts as harming the object of their attunement. Calabim (restricted) Calabim of License may choose to do Mind hits rather than Body hits with their Resonance. Habbalah Punishers serving License may, with a Will roll, temporarily impose the Lustful, Greedy, Gluttinous, or Slothful Discord on their victims. The level of the Discord is equal to the check digit of the demon's successful roll. The Discord lasts for a number of days equal to the demon's Celestial Forces, and can be resisted with a Will roll. Lilim Sade has no Lilim bound to its service, and it is being boycotted by the Free Lilim. Of course, there are fewer and fewer of those today; Asmodeus has taken advantage of Lilith's absence to declare all Free Lilim outside of Hell and without a current active Geas to a Prince to be Renegades. Most Frees fear that the Game plans to tighten this loop in the near future. Shedim (restricted) Shedim of License displace the minds of their hosts entirely, and do not have to roll to force their hosts to perform corrupting acts (like Shedim of Factions). Unlike Shedim of Factions, they must make a Perception roll to access their host's memories and skills. However, they also do not incur Dissonance if their host is killed while they are possessing it. Impudites Mortals find it difficult to hold an Impudite of License responsible for the Taker's actions, and must make a Will roll to avoid making excuses for its behavior. Servitor Attunements Everyone's Got One With a Will roll, the demon can remove all sense of empathy from the target for a number of hours equal to the check digit of the successful roll. The target may resist with a successful Will roll, reduced by the demon's Ethereal Forces. While the victim is affected, they may not take others' feelings, needs, or desires into account while planning their actions. Distinctions Like Lilith before it, Sade grants no Distinctions to (and appears to make no distinctions among) its servitors. There is a hierarchy developing among Sade's followers, but it is unstable and based entirely on personal power. Rites Make a nuisance of yourself by indulging yourself in some way (e.g., by smoking in the non-smoking section of a restaurant, playing your radio loudly on public transportation, or making out in the back of a theater.) Publicly violate vice laws. Relations Allied Andrealphus Associated Haagenti, Fleurity, Furfur, Nybbas Hostile Asmodeus; the Game would be more actively opposed to Sade, but for the fact that the fall of Freedom has allowed Asmodeus to take the Free Lilim problem firmly in hand. Enemy Lilith, if she still exists in some form, and if she should ever return. Chance of Invocation: 3 Invocation Modifiers +1 A piece of candy, taken from a baby. +2 A sport utility vehicle, parked in a handicapped space, or across two normal spaces. +3 Shouting fire in a crowded theater. +4 The scene of a date rape. +5 A slave, used in a particularly degrading manner. +6 A finely prepared meal of human flesh. - -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jason F. McBrayer jmcbray@carcosa.net | | The scalloped tatters of the King in Yellow must hide Yhtill | | forever. R.W. Chambers _The King in Yellow_ | ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2370 ********************************