in_nomine-digest Wednesday, September 12 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2371 In this digest: RE: IN> GIN Rules, Rulings, clarifications & descriptions Re: IN> Successors: War, Part 6 - The Archangel Re: IN> Successors: Sade, Prince of License Re: IN> Iron Rev IV: Let us go then, you and I... IN> Successors Part 1- A New Archangel RE: IN> GIN Rules, Rulings, clarifications & descriptions Re: IN> Iron Rev IV: Let us go then, you and I... Fwd: Re: IN> Okay in VA Re: IN> Okay in VA IN> Patrons of Darkness, Pt 1: Overview Re: IN> Checking in Re: IN> Okay in VA IN> Um... oops. IN> Snuggles Choir Re: IN> Snuggles Choir Re: IN> Snuggles Choir IN> What with one thing and another, this subject came up last night Re: IN> What with one thing and another, this subject came up last night Re: IN> What with one thing and another, this subject came up last night Re: IN> Okay in VA Re: IN> What with one thing and another, this subject came up last night Re: IN> Snuggles Choir IN> Tattered Question Re: IN> Tattered Question RE: IN> Tattered Question IN> Successors: Winter ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:33:48 -0400 From: Mike Bruner Subject: RE: IN> GIN Rules, Rulings, clarifications & descriptions >> >>>(Demons shatter their Hearts, and are no longer bound by dissonance >>>conditions -- maybe habit, but not dissonance. Angels, whose Hearts >> >>They would still be able to gain dissonance for their Choir though, right? > >Their Band, yes. That's intrinsic to their natures. Word-related >dissonance was fuzzier, and it finally got pinned down on Hearts. >Freedom's dissonance, as usual, breaks the rules; however, the queen >of Geases undoubtedly knows how to work a binding into a willing >subject's being. Yet another reason Lilith probably doesn't mind Renegades; they can't escape HER by breaking their Hearts. Actually, maybe that could be her excuse if a Renegade is caught with her Rites; maybe she could claim because she doesn't use a Heart, stripping her Rites away really requires such-and-so which requires finding the Renegade in question, etc. Of course, that probably isn't TRUE, mind you, but it makes a good excuse when Asmodeus complains (I still think there have to be a LOT of Renegades who have Lilith's Rites if she can get away with it; they fit her interests too well, and without any other Rites Renegades would be desperate for Essence gathering besides what happens at dusk). >>>only crack, _are_! But it can be assumed that Laurence is not so likely >>>as Asmodeus to wish to inflict massive amounts of dissonance upon his >>>Servitors, should they stray from the path. Kill them, maybe, but not >>>make them likely to Fall...) >> >>Except for those REALLY dark campaigns of course ("Hmm, maybe we can get >>those demons if they're out recruiting; there's this one worthless Outcast >>right near a good ambush point..."). > > Well, _really_ dark ones, sure. But if you're that dark, you'd >better be shattering your Heart before you go Outcast, angel... CAN they actually shatter their own Hearts without falling/Outcasting? I know demons can, but I'm not sure it's ever been established that an angel can completely demolish their own Heart without Falling, which does it automatically. Of course, maybe cracking like what occurs in Outcasting also blocks handing out Dissonance, but for the mean-spirited (or those who want Dominic to actually be RIGHT about certain Archangels) no need to believe that :). Speaking of matters dark and evil, I hope nobody on the list was caught up in what happened today. *sigh* Makes one wish sometimes there WERE hordes of Malakim really out there to fall on the heads of folks who do things like that (although I suppose if In Nomine were reality, we'd also have to deal with demons urging more such incidents too). Well, let's hope purely human evils can be tracked down and dealt with by the purely human good guys. - -- Mike Bruner-- bruner@delaware.infi.net I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:41:26 -0400 From: "Jeffery Watkins" Subject: Re: IN> Successors: War, Part 6 - The Archangel I can't give this the right sort of praise, due to my state of mind right now, but I did want to say I liked what you did with this series. The reactions of everyone were well done. If you get more inspiration, please write more. Jeffery _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:24:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Successors: Sade, Prince of License - --- "Jason F. McBrayer" wrote: > Sade, Shedite Prince of License Eeeeeeew. If that's the effect you were going for, you succeeded in spades. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The next time someones says "Talk is cheap," remind them of how much Oprah Winfrey makes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:32:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Iron Rev IV: Let us go then, you and I... Would it even be possible to Redeem something that is a mere fragment of a Superior's awareness? Or has Alfred splintered off completely? ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The next time someones says "Talk is cheap," remind them of how much Oprah Winfrey makes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:39:27 -0400 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: IN> Successors Part 1- A New Archangel There are numerous tales to tell about Armageddon. The Servitors of Yves are working around the clock to file them all properly and they are told to anyone who wants to hear them. There was one that received little notice at first. A relatively minor Demon Princess was caught up in the middle of the battle. She was terrified at all the carnage that was happening at first. Her home was being destroyed and her Servitors were throwing themselves into the fighting to protect her. It brought tears to her eyes to see so much being broken and destroyed that it opened her mind and soul to a moment of clarity. The Symphony hummed inside her and she was filled with a purpose that wasn't born of selfishness. Without hesitation, she shattered her Heart and made it to Heaven. Heaven was baffled with this refugee. She was known to the Host, of course but they honestly had no idea what to do with her. She was too powerful to consider destroying outright and Michael's Second Trial was getting ready to begin. But the Symphony provided the answer as the Princess was bathed in the light of the Higher Heavens. The Song that was heard stripped away her demonic nature and her Infernal Word. The light grew too powerful for anyone to gaze upon. And then silence as the light faded away. When the Host could look upon the angel, a beautiful Mercurian stood before them. She had grown quickly and laughed at the new knowledge she had gained. Her name was heard across the chambers of the Seraphim Council. Her name was Iolanthe, the Archangel of Delight. to be continued... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:52:11 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: RE: IN> GIN Rules, Rulings, clarifications & descriptions >CAN they actually shatter their own Hearts without falling/Outcasting? As of GURPS: In Nomine, this appeared to still be at least DaU, if not CDaU. In the section on Hearts, it's essentially said that any angel who would try... really doesn't need to try. >Mike Bruner-- bruner@delaware.infi.net William ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:19:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Iron Rev IV: Let us go then, you and I... - --- Michael Walton wrote: > Would it even be possible to Redeem something that > is a > mere fragment of a Superior's awareness? Or has > Alfred > splintered off completely? Beats me. I guess that the PCs will just have to try it and see if it works, huh? ;) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 07/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:39:03 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Fwd: Re: IN> Okay in VA >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:28:52 -0500 >Subject: BOUNCE in_nomine-l@lists.io.com: Admin request of type /\bcancel\b/i at line 4 > >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:27:30 -0400 >From: "William J. Keith" >Subject: Re: IN> Okay in VA > >Uninjured here. The closest thing to us was the southern PA crash. I'd >like to think that the pilot in that one decided they didn't want their >plane doing the same thing the others had. PSU actually continued classes >today; my Number Theory teacher asked if we wanted to c a n cel, but the class >refused to be disrupted. > >If you want to remotely give this post some In Nomine content, ponder the >above from the point of view of first Michaelites or Malakim, then others. > >William > - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:55:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan M Roth Subject: Re: IN> Okay in VA I'm fine, ERic. I've been trying to call you all day, but the 'circuits are busy'. Couldn't get to my email either for a long while. Mahima is fine too -- she was downtown this morning and was within 5 blocks of the towers when it happend. She spent all morning getting back here -- after which I did not let go of her for quite sometime. We're all okay -- I'll try to call you tonight or tommorrow. Ryan PS: I was downtown just yesterday, and was supposed to go back tomorrow. I must be blessed. On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Eric Bertish wrote: > > > > > Moe "Yeah, I pretty much responded to this so that I'd > > have an excuse to demonstrate that neither I nor my > > girlfriend were in any real danger this morning" Lane > > Likewise here. Though getting home will be a trick, since the Pentagon exit > is close to where I live. > > Am I the only one having "Feast of Blades" flashbacks? Perhaps I'm just > twisted, but it's more likely that's how I'm dealing with this shock and > outrage right now. > > Ryan, if you're okay, please call or email me. Thanks. > > -- Eric > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:27:00 -0400 From: Daniel Sauve Subject: IN> Patrons of Darkness, Pt 1: Overview (From a crossover backgraund I am working on) They are amoung the more contreversial Archangels-- and, if considered, one word bound and one word petitioner -- in angelic society. And their numbers may grow. They represent things some angels would consider damned, or best forgotten. And there are... others... of course. But these angels fiercely defend their words-- and all that they entail. THE PATRONS OF DARKNESS Even as they cursed Caine (as depicted in many translations of the Book of Nod), War, Knowledge, Purity, and Fire left the path of Golconda open to his children. The Seraphim Council was convinced that angel should be devoted to this end. Thus, first under Knowledge and later under Destiney was the Angel of the Kindred charged. Since 1057, shortly after his Master Machir's death, the Bright Lilim Tidal has held this word. Seeing as Lilim was supposedly key in Caine's damnation, Tidal takes his job /very/ seriously. Since the Werewolves began the long spiral to extinction, Jordi has made efforts to help them. Luckily, he was able to get Lycaonia past the council to be the Malakite Angel of the Garou. Lycaonia once served Dominic, and is still on good terms with him (despite disagreements on some things). Lycaonia is devoted to Gaia's children, and has argued for centuries that in fact, Gaia is God. Some are inclined to agree. Amoung the Garou, there are scattered but powerful tales of a Phildrox Red Talon that appears from no where in a pack's darkest moments to turn the tide. Many of the other Arhangels are a little peeved about Dibon-gad. They expected him to at least drive the Magi toward the Chorus... but the Elomite Archangel of the Awakened can and has spent hours arguing that will works actually seem to enhonce the symphony, that in actuality it is the Technocracy, not the Tradtions that hurt God's symphony. Given Jean's abandoment of all but the Virtual Adepts and Sons of Ether. Dib has some ammo. Amoung the Outcast of Heaven is a Mecurian who followed her beloved master Death in Exile. Jarmuth, the mysterious Angel of Unsettled Spirits, is but a legend today-- so they say. Of the defenders of the night, Heaven has great respect. The Church, before the time of shattering, manifested this. As the Gargoyles re-emerge into the world, Timon, Cherub Angel of Gargoyles under Protection finds his power increasing-- and his word contested between his lady and Stone. The Immortals have a great deal of respect for the power, if not the sancity, af holy ground. They follow a stringent code, and police their themselves. And... occasionally... their soul arrive in Heaven after their quickening has been unbond. Jaccob, a Virtue of War, seeks the word of Quickening so he may patron the noble amoung the Immortals. Finally, amoung the Imbued there are tales of a man who is not a Hunter, but fights along side them. One who understands the drive to save humanity from the puppeteers. Some say this man is not quite a man. They are right. He is David. His mother was a member of the Chorus. His father, a Grigori. He is a memberHe's very mad. And he has a Word... Reckoning. The Patrons of Darkness are NPCs created especially for a crossover game. They were built in GURPS terms. Details are fourth coming. - -- Your GM Daniel Sauve (in nomine, shadowrun, earthdawn, hero unlimited) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:17:53 -0600 From: "Chris Holland" Subject: Re: IN> Checking in Short of National Monuments closing and the bases on lock down, things here in South Dakota are well Chris Holland _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:03:44 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> Okay in VA > towers when it happend. She spent all morning getting back here -- after > which I did not let go of her for quite sometime. Good for you. > PS: I was downtown just yesterday, and was supposed to go back tomorrow. > I must be blessed. Yes, you are. It took you this long to figure it out? - -- Eric ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:48:44 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: IN> Um... oops. Please forgive my supreme idiocy for posting a private email to the list. Fortunately, nothing embarassing was said, but still.... - -- Eric ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:54:35 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Snuggles Choir Inspired by Pokemon, Tribbles, and the Works of Roger Baum. Snuggles The best description of this minor choir has been summed up as "the most nausiatingly cute things that have ever come into existence" this is not so troublesome until you realize that Novalis was the Archangel who said it. The Snuggles choir originated in the service of the Archangel David but has gradually moved like an infection through the ranks of all of the Heavengly Host that it is not that difficult to find one in Heaven if you are looking for one. Of course being Heaven it's easy enough to avoid them if you so desire. Snuggles appear in their Celestial Forms as big furry creatures of a myriad of nontraditional colors (if it's neon its' been a snuggle color at some point) with two pairs of adorable eyes that usually are quite oversized. The creatures having appendanges is unknown though most agree that despite the Snuggle langage being something very smilar to "Coooo cooo koochii" in most of its' syllabels they also have a functioning mouth. Occasionally Snuggles with attenae, wings, tails, and elsewise are reported though if these differtiate ranks or elsewise through the choir it is unknown. Resonance Snuggles have the resonance to be able to read how to best improve someone's mood and what is the biggest deterent to a person's happiness presently. This is the primary reason that Laurence has ok'ed Michael's request to have the entire choir recruited for the front lines of a front lines only charge of Gehenna because they prove extremely talented demon sniffers. Demons after all always fit into the "traumatized worldview" mold after all... Check digit 1. The Snuggle can determine a person's general outlook (Happy go Lucky, Fair weather Fun, Moody Goo-dy, Bad case of the Blahs, and "Going Postal as soon as he finds the ammo for his carbine" being some of the disgustingly cute nicknames the Snuggles give) 2. The Snuggle can determine what a person's mood is today (see cute names above) 3. The Snuggle can determine why a person feels a particular way with reasonable detail ("He's down in the dumps because his mother just died", "he's grouchy because he just stole 40 million dollars from his boss and he's afraid of getting caught") 4. The Snuggle can best determine the way to improve someone's mood for the better though not specifics ("Get her laid" to a recently divorced woman concerning her attractiveness does not after all deal with great self esteem issues) 5. Same as four but a great deal more detail though this has been known to cause mistakes ("Give her the briefcase on fourth and vine" might be bad at 4 but here you know it's because it contains her stolen drug money) 6. The Snuggle determines an entire web of cheeriness from how they feel about their socks to their families. Opinions on other Choirs Seraphim: OOoooo the mean old Most Holy are in a tither again because some mortals and angels told some widdle white lies. Pee hee maybe we should show them the true meaning of tolerance.... "GAH! WHAT ABOMINATION MAKES THE GRIGORI BANISHED AND NOT THESE CREATURES!" Cherubim: Animals are kewl! "Hahaha. I love these guys! What?" Ofanim: Poor Poor Ofanim, they are wheels and wheels are educational and useful...the wheels on the bus go round and round...round and round...round and round (continues on for ten minutes straight) but they can't hug anything. "I know the fastest way away from these guys...Zoom!" Kyriotates: Oooo possesion is just plain wrong! Little Billie got all of his test answers correct but that was because he was cheating! "And they say WE creep out people in Heaven...just stand in a room with a hundred of these guys staring at you....and....no I'm okay I just froze up for a second there." Malakim: So serious! They need to loosen up about Honor! Everyone makes mistakes and violence is no solution to any problem unless done in a nonoffensive way that has amusing pretty colors. "*resonates* DAMN! Still nothing worth killing over." Mercurians: Wow they're just like humans but cooler! I love em to death. "They drive some humans crazy, other humans love em. I don't understand it myself but we're the same way." Bright Lilim: *Purrrr* Mmmmmmm Lilim. "Uhh no thanks. I think I'll pass on petting you...ummm guys what is it doing to my leg." Opinions on the Bands Balseraphim: Nasty Nasty Liars! They need a good Care Bear stare! "Is that thing comming onto me?" Djinn: These guys are so sad. They need one of us to show us that life is meaningful! "Okay...someone's put a picture of my old superior, a bottle of scotch, and love letters from hundreds of beautiful young women in my drawer when my esteem was at it's lowest *twitch* *twitch* *twitch* I CAN'T TAKE MUCH MORE OF THIS!" Calabim: They need a time out "Chainsaw, Lighter Fluid, Shotgun...yessir this isn't going to be glorious but it needs to be done." Lilim: Mmmmmmm Lilim. "Uh guys what is this thing doing to my leg and can I charge him for it?" Shedim: Bleah these guys are not G rated at all! "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! *runs away screaming in terror*" Impudites: Come on...pet us...you know you want to. "THIS is why I fell! Can no one look at these things and not wonder why we are afraid for humanity! Oh alright...one pet....your so soft..." Archangel Attunements: Blandine: Snuggles of Blandine can immediately sense whether or not nightmares are causing a person's mood to plummet and on a roll of six can identify if Demons or Evil Ethereals are involved. "They have their uses; Shock troops for instance." Christopher: Christopher is addicted to Snuggles. In fact aside from David no one has a larger collection of these things and he spends hours and hours of his time making them. Snuggles of Children can instantly brighten a child's mood and confidence to titanic levels. "Snuggle with Smite and Howl Attunement!" David: David created the Snuggles and loves them to death and all Snuggles view David as their progenitor...some actually believe David was a Snuggle and not a Cherub before his change and David doesn't deny it (mostly because no one has the kahones to ask). Snuggles of Stone are can become incredibly bouncy with their agility removed from their hit damage for EACH attack upon them as long as they are doing nothing violent. "Hehe...*slap* *bounce* heheh...*slap* *bounce." Dominic: Snuggles of Judgement....well there are no Snuggles of Judgement despite every month one or two comes up wearing a big blue cloak and wielding a cute gavel to try and get Dominic to accept him into his service. "Solomon hates these guys...that says something to me." Eli: Snuggles of Creation can devour a quantity of matter equal to their vessels bodyweight and spit it up as an equivalent object of any other type providing that they know how to make it. "Woah....did I make these guys?" Gabriel: Snuggles of Fire....mostly just cuddle Gabriel who burns them to a crisp usually but they like that. They stalk the Cruel who are pessimistic, cynical, and callous....and make their lives so disgustingly cute that they usually go insane. Snuggles of Gabriel are feared. "Oooo how cute..*sizzle*...Mmm something smells' good?" Janus: Snuggles of Wind can project an aura of "trust" which functions which causes resisted will checks that anyone can assume guilt of a Snuggle even when red handed caught. "Ohhh look at the cute Bunny....where'd my carkeys go? HAHA!" Jean: Jean's Snuggles are cold, callous, scumbags....no really they are. One of jean's finest warriors with hundreds of kills to his name in Outcast Snuggles, "Cute" dischod laden demons, and just Demented Ethereals is a Snuggle. Snuggles of Jean are "lucky" in that anything around them in a foot radius for every celestial force goes smoothy and programming, repair, design goes without flaw. "*Twitch* They have their uses. *Twitch* Jordi: Snuggles are attuned to cute furry inoffensive animals. In the mortal world they run animal shelters and are lovable pets...who slaughter indiscrimminatly the men who dare destroy the environment! "They're Animal like...I guess." Laurence: Oddly enough Snuggles of Laurence can BECOME swords that are quite difficult to strike depending on their size and can wield themselves with a type of strange telekenisis...they also can use blade blessing on themselves. Or allow themselves to be wielded by a partner while they aid with songs. "Cosmic SNUGGLE PO...errr I mean...very useful loyal little soldiers." Litheroy: Snuggles of Litheroy can convince any child to want to learn just by singing....no one knows why the Archangel of Revelation gave them this attunement and no one has forgiven him for it yet either. "What!?" Michael: Michaelite Snuggles can explode with the force of 10 pounds of dynamite per celestial force they have with an additional ten pounds of dynamite per point of essence they spend. They are unharmed by this. "Okay my attunement is funny, all the others are just sick." Novalis: Novalis Snuggles....Oh hell *cuddle*...now Imagine Baal doing that. They're resonance is the same as a Seraphim but applied only to the Snuggle with a additional point of charisma for every ethereal force the Novalis servitor has. "Disgusting little roden...I mean I love them like I love all of God's creatures." Yves: Destiny Snuggles can know how to best cheer soemone's mood up to encourage their destiny "They have their place in Heaven." Next up...FALLEN SNUGGLES...THE FURRIES OF HELL! - -Charlemagne _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 06:02:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Snuggles Choir - --- Charles Phipps wrote: > Snuggles This, Charles, is enough to get you on the list of the Order of the Eternal Pen (which, as you know, is mightier than that other Order). ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The next time someones says "Talk is cheap," remind them of how much Oprah Winfrey makes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:43:27 +0000 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> Snuggles Choir >David: David created the Snuggles and loves them to death and all Snuggles >view David as their progenitor...some actually believe David was a Snuggle >and not a Cherub before his change and David doesn't deny it (mostly >because >no one has the kahones to ask). Snuggles of Stone are can become incredibly >bouncy with their agility removed from their hit damage for EACH attack >upon >them as long as they are doing nothing violent. > >"Hehe...*slap* *bounce* heheh...*slap* *bounce." Okay, I suspended my disbelief just fine for this silly thing until I came to this part ... explanation? Janet Anderson * * * * Beware the anger of a patient bard. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:56:42 +0000 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: IN> What with one thing and another, this subject came up last night Can angels give blood? Do angels have blood type, compatible with humans, as part of having a credible vessel? (Or demons, for that matter, but I can't see a demon doing anything so helpful or unselfish, except for Lilim for the obvious reason and with the obvious drawback.) Janet Anderson * * * * Beware the anger of a patient bard. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:05:43 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> What with one thing and another, this subject came up last night Janet Anderson wrote: > Can angels give blood? Do angels have blood type, compatible > with humans, as part of having a credible vessel? I would think that they do. I'd expect them to have O negative, the universal donor. > (Or demons, for that matter, but I can't see a demon doing > anything so helpful or unselfish, except for Lilim for the > obvious reason and with the obvious drawback.) I'd expect non-Lilim demons to have AB positive, the universal receiver... Transfusions could be giving amusing side-effects. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:12:38 +0000 From: "Jo Hart" Subject: Re: IN> What with one thing and another, this subject came up last night All angels are universal donors. All demons are universal receivers. >From: "Janet Anderson" >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: IN> What with one thing and another, this subject came up last >night >Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:56:42 +0000 > >Can angels give blood? Do angels have blood type, compatible with humans, >as part of having a credible vessel? > >(Or demons, for that matter, but I can't see a demon doing anything so >helpful or unselfish, except for Lilim for the obvious reason and with the >obvious drawback.) > >Janet Anderson > > >* * * * >Beware the anger of a patient bard. > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:21:59 -0400 From: "Robb Kidd" Subject: Re: IN> Okay in VA Also well here. My story, for those interested: I had just gotten to work when the Pentagon crash became news. Work is in Old Town Alexandria, a mere couple of miles south of the building. A couple of us went with the building manager to the roof where we could see the smoke rising from the north and heard the secondary explosions. I could smell the smoke in Old Town by the time I was leaving the building to respond to the all-hands pages being sent out to fire and rescue personnel. Hoofed it (a three hour drive -- short compared to many folks' commutes yesterday) out to Prince William County Co.11 where I volunteer to help EMS unit staffing. Enough people had shown up by then that me and another tech geared up the bingo hall as a temporary clinic since the phone circuits were swamped and citizens might do "walk-ins" instead. Thankfully, the wide-spread emergency we'd geared up for didn't happen. Several of Prince William's units had been sent into Fairfax for mutual aid (for locals: our engine and medic ran a commercial structure fire call on S. Glebe road -- a thirty mile response!), but other than that the area was mostly quiet. I was surprised at how -few- accidents calls we were running considering the traffic. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:23:22 -0400 From: "Robb Kidd" Subject: Re: IN> What with one thing and another, this subject came up last night Janet Anderson wrote: > > Can angels give blood? Do angels have blood type, compatible with humans, > as part of having a credible vessel? I imagine Eli's folks with Transubstantiation would be handy for this, too. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:07:26 -0400 From: "Jeffery Watkins" Subject: Re: IN> Snuggles Choir Thank you! I really, really needed that! *g* Jeffery _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:21:27 -0600 From: "Chris Holland" Subject: IN> Tattered Question I've heard several references about the Tattered Universe. What is it, and where can I find information on it? Chris Holland _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:23:31 -0400 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: Re: IN> Tattered Question > I've heard several references about the Tattered Universe. What is it, and > where can I find information on it? http://www.godmachine.org/tattered/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 00:43:04 +0800 From: "Manny Nepomuceno" Subject: RE: IN> Tattered Question > I've heard several references about the Tattered Universe. What > is it, and > where can I find information on it? > > Chris Holland Hey, Imagine a world where the Symphony is degrading...Lucifer won the First Battle, killing Michael, mortally wounding Yves, and driving most of the 'good' Archangels into Exile. No demons, no Hell, and God has withdrawn from the Symphony, closing off the Higher Heavens. Things are at least as bad as on canon Earth, if not worse. Tattered is Moe's heretical campaign world -- well, at least it started out as Moe's world. He opened it up to other writers about a year ago via a then-egroup (now yahoogroup) called, appropriately enough, tattered. It's slowed down a LOT since it first started...when we first went to work on it we were posting roughly a hundred messages a day, and these days we're lucky to get twenty a month. There's a Web site up with the Archangels we've already written up, and when I last checked people were already working on short fiction to spice up the world. So, now you know the basics. More information is available on the Web site at http://www.godmachine.org/tattered/ (Jonathan Walton is our gracious and much-lauded Webmaster) and you can read the messages in the yahoogroups archive. If I'm not mistaken, you can subscribe to the group by sending mail to tattered-subscribe@yahoogroups.com -- if I'm mistaken, someone correct me fast! Hope this helps, ;) Manny Neps p.s. [Tattered] Sorry I'm so late with Haagenti the AA of Vigor...he's coming, don'cha worry. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:35:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: IN> Successors: Winter ORIARES CALABITE PRINCE OF WINTER “The world is cold. So must you be.” Of all Kobal’s new Princes, Oriares is the one who hates Heaven and humanity the most. His story parallels that of Haagenti in that Oriares worked his way up from demonling status and fledged as a Calabite of Fire. Unlike the Prince of Gluttony, Oriares enjoyed his time in Belial’s service; being commended for breaking things suited him just fine. He differed from other Destroyers mainly in his approach to destruction; Oriares was methodical as opposed to wrathful, calculating rather than cruel. Oriares boasted that he was the most cold-blooded of a hot breed, which earned him little favor with the Prince of Fire. The one thing that kept him on Belial’s good side was the fact that Oriares had never experienced Dissonance; his rational approach to destruction kept him from being burned by his own schemes. Even so, his coldness grated on Belial’s nerves enough that Oriares was frequently passed over for promotions. This angered the Calabite, of course, but he was too smart to be angry at Belial. Instead, he vented his wrath on angels whenever he could. The call to Armageddon was music to Oriares’ pointed ears; he dove into the fray with a will and slew every angel who stood against him. He fought at Belial’s right hand during the final showdown with Gabriel -- and promptly met his match. Oriares lasted in battle with Soldekai just long enough to see Belial and Gabriel consume each other in a blossom of glorious flame. Shortly after that, the future Prince was back in Hell trying to keep his remaining Forces together. When Kobal seized the reins of Hell and called for Princes, Oriares passed the Jester’s tests (by not volunteering too quickly and not sucking up) and won the right to become one of Hell’s new royalty. Oriares never talks about the process of becoming a Prince; all of Hell knows that three applicants didn’t survive it, so it must be unpleasant. Oriares’ behavior toward Kobal confirms this; the Mocker is the only person towards whom Oriares displays open hatred. All the Prince of Ice will say of his ascension is that Kobal recognized his cold-bloodedness and rewarded it with a suitable Word. It is common knowledge that Oriares would kill Kobal if he could, but he admits openly that he cannot. Serving the Jester is the most logical thing to do, and Oriares is nothing if not logical. But come next Armageddon, Oriares swears it will be someone else handing out Words at the end -- and it’s hard to laugh with your mouth frozen shut… DISSONANCE Oriares’ Word embodies chill in all its forms, but he also claims the metaphorical aspects of cold, especially it’s connections with death, fear, entropy and lack of passion. Demons of Winter cannot display genuine emotion (though they can fake it), nor can they promote new life. Winterites can never destroy out of anger; their depredations must proceed from reason and planning rather than passion. While using fire as a tool or weapon isn’t Dissonant, Oriares frowns upon it most severely. BAND ATTUNEMENTS Balseraphim A Balseraph of Winter has an icy stare. If the Liar makes eye contact with the subject, he may add his Ethereal Forces to the TN of any attempt at intimidation. If someone tries to intimidate him, the Liar subtracts his Ethereal Forces from the other party’s TN. Djinn (Restricted) When these Stalkers try and fail to break Attunements early, they do not become obsessed with their targets. The Attunement merely runs its course, and the Djinn’s heart stays cold. Calabim (Restricted) Damage inflicted by a Calabite of Winter’s Resonance can, if the demon chooses, look like damage inflicted by extreme cold. If a source of such cold is in the immediate area before the Resonance is applied, this damage does not disturb the Symphony. These Destroyers cannot take any Discord that involves strong emotions (i.e. Angry, Berserk or Murderous). Habbalah Oriares’ Punishers are cool under fire. They subtract their Ethereal Forces from the CD of any successful attempt to manipulate their emotions, including backlashes from their own Resonance. If the CD is reduced to zero or less, the attempt fails. Lilim (Restricted) These Tempters can use their Resonance to detect emotion-based Discords. With a successful Will roll, they can temporarily remove such Discords in a willing subject; relief lasts for a number of weeks equal to the CD. The recipient of this favor then owes the Lilim a Geas equal to the level of the Discord. Shedim (Restricted) Oriares’ Fleshless can age their Hosts instead of corrupting them. The game mechanics for this are the same as for getting a Host to perform an evil action, except that success ages the victim one year. Impudites Impudites of Winter can play the Ethereal Song of Ice at no Essence cost. They start with free levels of the Song equal to their Ethereal Forces. SERVITOR ATTUNEMENTS Cold Hands, Cold Heart At the cost of 3 Essence the demon can surround himself with an aura of intense cold. Everything within (total Forces) inches takes damage equal to the demon’s Corporeal Forces every turn until it is moved out of the cold aura. While this aura is active, the demon is immune to all damage from cold and from non-supernatural heat or fire. Cold Hands, Cold Heart lasts for up to one minute per Celestial Force; the demon may cancel it at any time. Eyes of Frost The demon can paralyze someone with fright simply by locking eyes. The victim must make a Will roll at a penalty equal to the demon’s Celestial Forces (the Balseraph of Winter Attunement does stack with this!); Celestials and Ethereals add their Celestial Forces. If the victim fails, he succumbs to fear and is unable to act until he is attacked or until (demon’s Ethereal Forces) rounds have passed. Elohim rightly fear this Attunement, as any successful use of it causes them to become Dissonant. Wendigo’s Bite The demon can lower the ambient temperature or create snowstorms. He can cool the area by 10 degrees per Corporeal Force or cause a minor blizzard in the effected area. Wendigo’s Bite covers an area (Ethereal Forces x 10) yards in radius and lasts for (Celestial Forces) minutes. DISTINCTIONS Knight of the Freeze The Knight can, at will, create a zone of Symphonic stasis around himself. All Disturbance generated within this zone is “frozen” until the effect expires (total Forces) minutes later. The zone of silence and all Disturbance trapped within it move with the demon. The Knight can use this power a number of times each day equal to his Celestial Forces. Captain of Killing Frost The demon is gifted with the Calabite Resonance (and may now purchase the Calabite of Winter Attunement). He doesn’t have an entropic field like a Calabite’s, but he must have Discord of some kind in order for this power to work. If this Distinction is given to a Calabite, damage inflicted by his Resonance is doubled! Baron of Fimbulwinter The demon is able to extend the effects of Wendigo’s Bite over an area (Ethereal Forces) miles in radius. The effect has a duration in hours equal to the demon’s Celestial Forces. RITES * Kill a living thing with cold. * Paralyze someone with fear (+3 Essence if the victim dies of fright). * Spend two hours in near-freezing temperatures (+2 Essence for naturally-occurring subzero temperatures). * Witness a death by old age. CHANCE OF INVOCATION: 1 Oriares doesn’t much care for his Servitors calling on him; anyone who does so had better have a very good reason. Invocation Modifiers +1: In a naturally cold place (40 degrees or less) +2: In a retirement home or hospice +3: Standing knee deep in snow +4: A mortal catatonic with fear +5: A mortal freshly dead of hypothermia +6: A piece of an Ice Age glacier ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The next time someones says "Talk is cheap," remind them of how much Oprah Winfrey makes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! 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