in_nomine-digest Monday, October 1 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2397 In this digest: IN> In WoD: Magi IN> Immortal Beloved ethereal IN> IN Successors: The New Prince of Greed. IN> Laurence in Love IN> Another WordBound IN> RE: In WoD: Garou Re: IN> RE: In WoD: Garou IN> An Ethereal Realm Re: IN> In WoD: Cainites Re: IN> IN Successors: The New Prince of Greed. IN> Angel of door to door sales IN> Laurence supports Bush? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 20:23:39 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> In WoD: Magi TOP SECRET From: Benedict, the Demon of Double Agents To: His most unholy master Asmodeus the Penultimate Grandmaster of the Game Re: The Magi Most impervious to mercy I am pleased to report that the information you have had me pass along to Lord Dominic has been most well accepted and I am pleased now that my position as an angel of his court has allowed me access to key reserves of information regarding a power you have long held interest in. While Kronos and Hatiphas have long been supporters of the evils of Sorcery and it's corrupting effects, you know as well as I (and of course much more oh great Evil Lord) that it is by no means a phenemonon as new to the world as 900 A.D. As per your instructions your milord I have forwarded a copy edited for your purusal to Kronos and Hatiphas regarding this document as well as making sure several imps and gremlins discover partially destroyed versions of this document with wildly inaccurate and dangerous information to pass along to their Princes. These copies have been passed along to other spies and yourself so that you can manipulate events to your leisure, I have also made the leisure of talking to several balseraphs on the matter so that I myself will be unsure of which is true. History As fitting any mystery it is unknown how magic itself came to be with the possibility it is a Hellish creation, a Divine one meant to further torment and calcify mankind in a wrong way (as opposed to us milord who are of course simply right), A mortal secret stumbled onto by mortals (ridiculous I know), or an ethereal one (only slight less so). However the best way to discover the truth is likely examining what "Magick" is at the fundemental level. Magick is not unknown to demonkind and is in fact merely a simple expression of our beliefs which leads me to the possibility (useful for propaganda purposes since you milord of course will know better the "reality" by this document) that it is originally a philosophy formulated by Lucifer or discovered once hidden by God. This belief is of course that we are each a Symphony unto ourselves and it is possible to alter the Symphony as a whole by imposing our will upon it. Mages in their ignorance (or enlightment-I'm not at liberty to say) have gone so far to suggest that our reality itself is merely a mutually shared delusion and if we broke away them all away from it that each man could be a God unto his own universe. A event to bring about or prevent at all costs depending on a number of factors and sub processes of course you and I both know save for the parts I should not. The First Sorceress/Magi seems to be none other than the Second Woman Lilith who after asserting the laughable (but important) concept of Free Will to leave the Garden of Eden seems to have developed with her understanding of the Symphony the initial precepts of sorcery. Of course she might have been directly taught it as well by our Unholy Lord. Her "Magick" at this time is wild, nature-based, chaos magic that still has it's non-progressive (or proper) adherents in the magickal "traditions" known as the Verbena, Dreamspeakers, and Cultists of Ectasy. According to Heremetic doctrine (incorrect yet very organized and thus useful) a great ammount of Magical Potential rests in the strength of the inaccurate term "Avatar". In Magic belief there were once a great number of "Enlightened" beings called Pure Ones who were shattered and their fragments since led to mortal potential belief. Obviously (in certain lights) this is the Mages description of the Fall and mortals would not be capable of Magick unless the remanents of Angelic Soul Forces were made into "fallout" onto the human race. Thus once the Glorious Revolution in Heaven began the number of mages jumped dramatically. If one wishes to presume to cater to Lilim tastes then Lilith's "release" of the Forces of Hell (which is debatable as to whether happened by certain parties) is perhaps the result of Lucifer having prepared her previously as a fail-safe device with this "magick". Certainly the binding could not have been undone by many mere mortals and it's possible by this time the "Soul Sharded" might have formed into an entire tradition to aid Lilith in fufilling Lucifer's will....presuming of course that it wasn't just propagandeous lies by the Queen and we escaped on your own with no difficulty or great heroics. In any case much like writing there is POSSIBILITY it was discovered in numerous places instead of invented by one single person such as Lilith and passed down unless Milord your illustrious wisdom allows you to see that she actually was spreading it the entire time. The sexual-freedom-nature aligned Lilithian tradition however gave rise to variants which adopted a more ordered structured style in Egypt that became the Inheritor Order of Thoth-Hermes (probably aligned by Leaders) as more partriachal enlightment seeking (and utterly cowardly despicable or sadly mercilessly deluded but well meaning) mortals sought to use their magic in a religeous way becoming the ancestors of the Celestial Choir, Ali-Batin, and Akashic Brotherhood of present day. Like most sorcerous traditions the majority simply rose high, fell, died, and dissapeared (much like much of mortality's achievements itself). The Cursed influence of Heaven however can never keep it's nose out of world affairs for long and a Uriel backed group of "divine" sorcerors called the Cabal of Pure Thought was promoted along with a group of similarly un-Hell aligned (if such a thing is possible milord) magicians by the Boy-Archangel Laurence into a united Church aligned organization for the purpose of eliminating the supernatural (in this case what made Heaven uncomfortable given the majority of the organization were sternly Catholic and unable to openly voice their own religeous beliefs-ignorant and misguided those that held such opinions often were) The Order of Reason was strongly promoted by Jean, Marc, Dominic, and the Commander of the Host for a period spanning most of the Catholic Inquisition with the main goal of genocide but primarily serving as an eradicator of their different style sorcerors like all religion does to Man (except the right ones of course) but was much mildly supported once it became apparent the mortals were violating their hypocritical standards of morality. Also the event had led to a strengthening of the opposition by forcing the dissparate often warring factions into a united council of "Nine" called the traditions which while no where all Magi in the World (60% is an estimate between 0 to 100% as you will lord) still rivalled the "Order of Reason". Khalid, Eli, Blandine, Raphael, Lilith, and it appears several other powers including ethereal approved of this order though whether in collusion or not or at all is of course your understanding. In what has largely been a progressive victory of their ideals the Order of Reason has served Heaven and hell's mutual interests by decreasing ethereal power through promotion of "Reason" (as defined by not believing in the supernatural), covering up Celestial activities to a surprising degree while remaining ignorant themselves, and giving humanity more self indulgence methods than ever before that distract them from spiritual matters. The Traditions mutually served the same interests by making sure that for every two steps forward the OoR took they took one step backwards. Mortals with Magic being inherently more succeptible to Hellish influence, the Order of Reason (also with it's milder influence by Heaven perhaps aided by Hell or confirmably) soon reformed. Marc was soon replaced by Mammon as the chief force behind it's finacial aspects, you yourself I understand have been accused/congradulated (rightly or wrongly I would never say other than what you claim) of leading the Cabal from Judgement, Malphas leading it from everyone and each other, and finally Vapula dueling with Jean to significantly alter it's aims in the 19th century reformation into the Technocratic Union. The Council of Nine replaced two of their "Houses" in the period following as well with "reformed" Technocratic ones including an Orc supported iniative called the Virtual Adepts and a Eli occasionally visited (though by no means undoubtably so) somewhat Vapulan offshoot called the Sons of Ether. Apparently by 1900 the Council of Nine was viewed as prefferable to the Union by Heaven...now that's gratitude (sarcastic or not) At present both groups are reeling from recent upheaval and have ceased all hostilities, my theory is at present Heaven is making a major play or Hell and that it is a prime time to influence either group to destruction or usefulness. Alternate groups from the Council of Nine and Technocratic Union less effected by the recent chaos include two "groups" of note though both are far less structed.... The first group is what we commonly think of sorcery (that is Hellsworn and destruction/indulgence bent) and are referred to by the Mages rather vulgar "old langage" lexicon as the Nephandi. Really it is a similarly loose collection of Baal, Saminga, Beleth, Various and Sundry Prince, and Nightmare Ethereal worshiping groups of wizards who have managed to survive and spread their teachings to continued generations despite almost universal opposition from their foes. Like many "Satanist" religeons the Nephandi seem to take their pride and doctrine from reversing common religeous beliefs to their polar opposite and make few innovations. Rather easily manipulated like most sorcerers they would be laughable my lord if not for their power to make their visions reality (whether a lesson exists in this or not is your choice). The "Cauls" they use are obviously of hellish manufacture however as they function identically to the soul pact ritual in effecting angelic spirit fagments into twisted demonic ones. The next group is a rather completely mad group of beings who have even more than some "deluded" demons (though still they have sense to serve our side-usually) retreated into a world of their own making which is frought with dischord. However these Marauders seem to gain great power from such a relationship and this mental condition while painful usually leads to great power before destruction. The majority live most of their times in the Marches and lucid dreaming. As such neither order of magick has accomplished much but such could be said for the Union and Traditions as well. Physiology Mages are biologically identical to humans and usually only soldier equivalent in power. "Magick" as opposed to standard In Nomine sorcery is a much more flexible system of belief that is usually divided into nine seperate classifications of song that cover every single aspect of reality from corporeal/ethereal/to celestial at once and thus cost 3 times as much as standard songs. These songs are Matter, Spirit, Forces, Life, Time, Correspondence, Prime (Essence manipulation), Mind, and Entropy (Intervention and probablity) and theoretically can with mastery of all of them duplicate every song in creation and then some. Magick like sorcery requires the "Magick" attunement to Learn which must be granted in a similar ritual that other sorcerers must go through called "Awakening" with the game mechanics the same. The Nine Spheres is simply another way of expressing the same concept and PERHAPS the most efficent. Psychologically many Mages like Sorcerors are crutch based in the trappings of ritual thanks to a lack of confidence in their own wills. The Sphere system is especially vunerable to this thanks to this unless a Mage wishes to lug around objects of power in massive ammounts to do his magic he must also purchase a fairly useless skill called Arete which represents his shedding of the trappings of his work. Magick unlike normal sorcery also disrupts the Symphony perception of most mortals that it causes THREE TIMES as much disturbance as a standard usage of essence when using sorcery. Depending on the belief in magic of the area the Symphony also may choose to inflict dischord in a backlash upon the mage in terribly large ammounts. Mages refer to this as "Paradox" though it is hardly impossible. Needless to say uncautious Mages are very noisy and often very noticible. Curiously Mauraders are immune to this effect and instead suffer from mental dischord "delusional" equal to their highest skill in magick. Mages are also known to make use of tethers that reinforce their perception of the Symphony and allow them to regain essence by meditation at (as long as it is a suitably aligned word) in a strange rite that seems to be widespread taught or naturally discovered. These places they maintain and control on their own often and Heaven and Hell relations Present relations appear to be Vapula has heavily influenced and made tethers out of a great deal of Illiteration X's forces. The Media has benifitted from a great deal of NWO and Synidcate promotion of the Media and Mammon appears to be investing heavily in the Syndicate (along with Pentex) in order to increase his influence as a bulwark against Haagenti. A number of NWO agents are also firmly unknowing or fully knowing allies of the Game. Jean however is apparently involved with a further effort by Marc to clear out demonic influence from the Technocracy though they seem alone among Heaven's superiors in continuing such efforts and it is a heavy uphill fight. Tradition influence is fairly sporadic among Superiors with Lilith having several of her few tethers under Cult of Ectasy and Verbena management. Blandine has recruited a few soldiers and tethers from Dreamspeaker and Akashic Brother Buddhist control. Laurence and Novalis habe a few ties with the Christianity loving Celestial Chorus but the Comamnder of the Host's interest has rapidly waned in Magical servants thanks to the "betrayal" of the Cabal of Pure Thoughts knights so many years past. Aside from a few Vapula and Creation tethers the Sons of Ether seem markedly free of Celestial intervention. The Nephandus are almost universally hellsworn to some demon or nightmare ethereal or another and there is an almost approprimately equal ammount serving Hapithas and Saminga's interests with a significant minority also serving Baal. Marauders mostly living in the Ethereal realms aside from pacts with ethereals whom they provide with valuable dream essence, vessels, and a certain amount of revenege against a disbelieving humanity including the Fairy Courts and various monsters of the Pantheon. Mauraders are universally hunted and hated by the Order of the Eternal Sword and Tsaydim. In Conclusion Depending on your goals your majesty the high powered organization of the Magi in the Technocracy and Traditions if supported fully by Hell could be a valuable impediment to eradicating the influence of natural words (Freedom, Flowers, Animals) or the leveling of the present technological institutions (Lightning, Technology, Trade, Media). However the placing of either in command of the world constitutes it's own dangers but the likelihood of such wizards being able to maintain a stable Game like position for our benefit is exceedingly small....which may be a plus or a minus milord. The Nephandi and Mauraders both provide a destabilizing influence that if properly utilized could bring massive chaos to Heaven and Hell but unfortunately again the innately selfish will of mankind indicates harnessing great magickal power to be exceptionally difficult. Few possess the subtley among mortals that is necessary to be a truly sucessful wizard. Like their progenitor in Lilith mages seem determined to go their own way regardless of Heaven and Hell though frequently either allying with either or both. Eradicating them would seem to be uttely futile and a waste of a valuable resource at present due to their ability to pop up in the least of places, their fortresses in the Ethereal Marches (called "Horizon" by them), and their lore spread out through the world. Thus I simply recommend an increase in standard corruption techniques for the Socerers....the lure of Easy knowledge and Power, it rarely fails. - -Charlemagne _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 22:16:43 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Immortal Beloved ethereal Phillip trudged through the bloody remains of the Demon of Nightmares whom he'd hit with a car, beat with a bat, and finally drove his pocket knife into the eye of to destroy the vessel of. Unfortunately by then he'd already had a fist shoved into his chest that he knew already would kill him. The beautiful elven woman looked down upon him and cradled him against her knees as they lied together in the rain. "My lady Arwen I fear that the defeat of our foe has come at a very dear price for our love. Less so as Aragorn do I inherit thee but Luthienne's Beren. Unfortunately no ressurection shall occur here I fear." "My Lord and Knight our love is eternal and though you may die, I will hold you in my heart forever." Arwen pressed her lips down on Philip as they shared once again one moment of love until the 17 year old fantasy addict died. "Your a predator." Nicole said behind the woman who even now slipped from the elven appearence that was her dead lover's ideal. The Mercurian of Fire already had her holy pistol loaded and ready to fire. "We hunt the same forces that destroy lovers. Whether I am Aphrodite, A Ghost of a lost Highschool sweetheart, a Mythical Elven Princess, or a Vampire Slayer I am an ideal that men strive to worship and serve." The Immortal Beloved looked down at her lover with an aching loss. "Yeah well you just destroyed your last lover Succubus." Nicole fired her pistol but discovered the woman had already dissapeared in a last minute act of teleportation...no doubt off to choose some other sucker. Nicole leaned down by the dead body of Philip and cradled him in her lap. As a Mercurian of Fire it was her duty to prevent humans from doing a cruelty to themselves.... Ethereals like her made that sometimes impossible as love was the cruelest cut of all. Immortal Beloved Cor-2 Str-4 Agi-4 Eth-4 Int-8 Pre-8 Cel-3 Will-6 Per-6 Vessel: Indistinct Human woman in her twenties 3/ Skills: Poetry 3/, Writing 3/, Love-Making 3/, Seduction 6/, Savoir Faire 4/ (More play acting Romance than real world etiquette) Songs: Song of Attraction (Ethereal 4/, Celestial 3/), Song of Dreams (All 4/), Song of Charm (Celestial 3/), Song of Form (Celestial 6/), Song of Motion (Celestial 3/) Special rites * Bring one's lover to the heights of pleasure * Inspire one's lover to a great quest Attunements: Idealization: The Immortal Beloved can gain a perfect image of what a person's ideal mate is and how they can immitate her. In effect she become that person. Her natural talent usually allows her to pull off a reasonable immitation of even the most strangest skilled beings as well. While in such a form the Immortal beloved's victem does not regain essence as it all goes to her. The Immortal beloved is a very powerful ethereal which has thrived since the time of the troubedours and likely well beyond in the Age of Rome and Babylon. The Immortal beloved is the ethereal embodiment of man's tendancy to idealize a mate that fills him with a sense of purpose and love. While many such spirits are actually created by such a purpose the Immortal beloved exclusively feeds off such and it matters not who the actual ideal is but what she represents. The Immortal Beloved like the mythical muses of Old also hopes to spread her efforts by making sure her lovers create tokens for her in the form of poetry and writing that future generations may believe in her form and send her power to sustain her to another year. Survival is not her goal in her mind however, at least conciously, but the following of her nature to be the perfect mate to those she loves. The Beloved usually finds her lovers by wandering dreams and discovering ethereals created by the idealization of love but too weak to survive long on their own (or at least so once she adopts their essence) and then proceeds to visit them really. Blandine has always hated these succubi on a very personal level and the Beloved's scrupilous attending to her lover's fantasies in the dream world and eventually physical revolts her on a deeply personal level, thus the Lady of Dreams wants her destroeyd as do several angels such as Nicole. The Immortal Beloved supposadly keeps a beautiful Castle in the Marches where her essence stores have made her as powerful as a minor goddess. The most devoted of her lovers continue on as dreamshades to provide her with essence that she has begun doleing out to ethereals of love she has adopted. In truth these dreams and dreamshades serve as little more than sexual slaves to keeping her romantic "paradise" operating without complaint and andre would find a very willing ally in the Immortal Beloved if she did not "care" about her lovers so much. Still the trademark of addiction is an inability to quit and anyone who confronts her in her palace is likely to be forced to cut through a small army of the very people they should want to protect. - -Charlemagne _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 22:18:11 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> IN Successors: The New Prince of Greed. I really like this guy. Excellent history and show of how Haagenti died... I'd be afraid if I were Kobal...Haagenti is shrewder than he appears I think. Can't wait for his writeup. - -Charlemagne _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 01:51:29 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Laurence in Love This is one bizzare freaking adventure hook....but it's what you get watching trailers. Laurence of the Sword is in love and frankly he isn't sure what to do about the situation because intellectually he knows it's a marriage of complete inequals, forbidden by standard procedure, and frankly he's not even sure she exists. It occured when Laurence was out inspecting the ethereal marches and found a rather rowdy young Malakim dueling with a ethereal who was defending a breathtakingly lovely young female of the dream race. Laurence found both of them to be entirely clear of dishonor and possesed of the most honorable actions he'd felt out of an ethereal in a long time.... and causally his Malakim butchered the first which Laurence resonated a selfish act of sadistic murder. Laurence isn't sure why he killed one of his own troops in a heat of rage but he did so and the moment their eyes locked Laurence felt deep shame for the Purity Crusade more than any other time in his life. His every thought echoed that this woman was what humanity should be and all he could say was "Return with your fallen hero to your home." She did so and Laurence has been unable to think of anything but that scene for the past month really and it's starting to effect his work as his troops have already started calling the Commander of the Host "The Melancholy Knight". He hasn't turned to either Michael or Dominic yet and is considering actually seeking a servitor's perspective to remind himself of how he used to feel as a mortal to one and how they deal with it...for contrasy if nothing else. Still he shouldn't be ashamed, he's not the First man to fall in love with the daughter of Elrond, Arwen the Eveningstar. - -Charlemagne _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 16:18:30 +1100 From: "james walker" Subject: IN> Another WordBound I'm up to date with other stuff, so I decided to write this guy as a reward to myself. Enjoy: Baraqel Outcast Grigori of Judgement in the Patronage of Song Angel of Silence CORPOREAL FORCES: 4 Strength: 4 Agility: 12 ETHEREAL FORCES : 6 Intelligence: 12 Precision: 12 CELESTIAL FORCES: 6 Will: 12 Perception: 12 WORD FORCES: 16 Vessel: Elderly Human Male/4, Role (Carthusian Monk)/6 Skills: Artistry (Appreciate Art/2, Appreciate Music/4, Calligraphy/6), Climbing/1, Detect Lies/4, Dodge/2, Emote/6, Escape/1, Knowledge (Administration/2, Eastern Philoosphy/6, Christian Theology/6), Languages (Aramaic/4, Babylonian/1, Latin/6, Written New Testament Greek/6, Written Biblical Hebrew/5), Medicine/1, Meditation/6, Move Silently/Mastery, Savoir-Faire/1, Singing/6, Survival(Wilderness)/5, Tactics/1, Tracking/2. Songs: Healing(Corporeal/3, Ethereal/3, Celestial/6), Motion(Celestial/5), Silence/Virtuoso, Submission/Virtuoso. Attunements: Grigori of Judgement, Ofanite of Judgement, Malakite of Judgement, Incarnate Law, Advocate, Warder, Partial Celestial Connection(Song), Inner Quiet, the Angel of Silence. Special Rites: Spend a day without speaking or in peaceful meditation [+3 essence]; Quietly and gratefully appreciate beauty for an hour; Spend an hour in silent prayer [replace the essence spend on the prayer, to a maximum of 3 points]; spend a day without creating a disturbance [weird rite: all essence gained that day is funnelled into the nearest potential Divine Tether. This does not increase the likelihood of a Tether forming but does draw the Tether Heavenwards.] Special Abilities: Baraqel may opt to not create a Disturbance by taking an Soul hits equal to the disturbance in damage; Can detect Disturbances masked by the Skulker resonance or Humanity attunement; possesses the Move Silently Skill at Mastery level; and grants the Inner Quiet attunement. Inner Quiet Attunement: each day the possessor of this attunement spends without speaking or creating a Disturbance he gains +1 to detect Disturbances to a maximum bonus equal to his total Forces (for Baraqel, include his Word Forces). The bonus is kept until the character creates a disturbance. Baraqel has granted this attunement to many Soldiers of Song; they tend to be very skilled at Focused Efforts. Created soon after the Fall, Baraqel earned the Word of Silence after discovering the Songs of Silence. A Servitor of Dominic, he believed that the best way to further his Superior's Word was by respecting confidences, and being a helpful friend whom people could explain their troubles to - and then use their own judgement to decide what was appropriate. The corruption of the Grigori proved him wrong; his failure to speak out prevented (in his mind) the chance to correct the situation before it was too late. At the trial he asked that the sentence of the rest of choir be mitigated and his own worsened, to reflect his failure. Dominic considered his request, and refused it, sentencing Baraqel impartially with the rest of his choir. No tale tells of what Baraqel did over the long millennia which passed after the Trial. He appeared to Heaven's warriors on occasion, warning of demonic threats, but otherwise he disappeared. He finally came to Heaven's notice when he joined the Carthusians during the 12th Century. There he has remained ever since, watching over the Order and responding to Infernal threats. Baraqel's need to respond to diabolical threats without revealing himself or speaking makes him an unnerving source of information. He will appear in his monk's robes, either out of thin air (with CelMotion) or by walking through a wall (with CorpSubmission) and indicate that the angels should follow him, until he can point out the threat and then vanish. The fact that none of this causes Disturbance, and the lack of any performance ritual, tends to unnerve other angels. Occasionally he will leave a note - written in Medieaval calligraphy on vellum. He generally prefers dealing with an Infernal threat himself, rather than calling in the Host; however minor matters, or those which require diplomacy, he will delegate. James. Anyone who guessed that I've recently re-read the Deryni books for the Pyramid playtest deserves candy! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:46:59 +0100 From: "Adam Benedict Canning" Subject: IN> RE: In WoD: Garou > Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 23:23:40 -0400 > From: "Charles Phipps" > > *TOP SECRET* > > From: Benedict, Angel of Double Agents > To: His most holy master Dominic the Lord of Judgement > Re: The Garou Shapechangers *TOP SECRET / ORCON / WNINTEL* *CODEWORD CLASSIFIED : HALO BREEZE* From: Dominic, Archangel of Judgement To: Benedict, Angel of Double Agents Re: The Garou Shapechangers As of this moment you are considered conditionally read on to HALO BREEZE. The Gaia entity is a false flag operation run by Jordi and Novalis. The shapechanging capabilities of the Garou are attunements provided to and only useful on soldiers in certain bloodlines isolated during the Merovingian experiment [Further details CODEWORD REX MUNDI] Contact Ariel for any further information you need on this project. Act in Infinite Justice. Dominic - -- Adam ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 10:01:38 -0400 From: Daniel Sauve Subject: Re: IN> RE: In WoD: Garou On Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:46:59 +0100, "Adam Benedict Canning" wrote: >From: Dominic, Archangel of Judgement >To: Benedict, Angel of Double Agents >Re: The Garou Shapechangers > >As of this moment you are considered conditionally read on to HALO >BREEZE. > >The Gaia entity is a false flag operation run by Jordi and Novalis. > >The shapechanging capabilities of the Garou are attunements provided >to and only useful on soldiers in certain bloodlines isolated during >the Merovingian experiment [Further details CODEWORD REX MUNDI] > >Contact Ariel for any further information you need on this project. > >Act in Infinite Justice. > >Dominic Not to knock you personally, just a commentary: I find this kind of "crossover" tends to cheapen both games-- like some crossover fics can, when the writer seems to perfering one "world" over the other. I'd much rather do what I've seen most successful full WOD games do-- give each "splat" its world view, it's own metaphysical concepts, and being largely in the dark about others unless they dare to look past the sterotypes. It's tempting to make the Archangels somehow involved with every weird thing... but it's not nessarily(sp) the best route. Beside, NOVALIS supporting the Warriors of Gaia? Garou seem to prone to hit first to be her boat. - -- Your GM Daniel Sauve (in nomine, shadowrun, earthdawn, hero unlimited) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 00:15:22 +1100 From: "james walker" Subject: IN> An Ethereal Realm Some dreamers are a little too aggressive for their own good. While the majority of dreamers are tossed to and fro by their dreams, and a handful learn to manipulate their nights with the Lucid Dreaming skill, others simply destroy anything that they find threatening in their dreams. These dreamers usually have high Ethereal Forces; Sorcerers specialising in the Focus skill usually belong to this group. Over time, the repeated punishment they inflict on their dreamscapes has permanent effects. The dreamscape is drained of colour; the lifeless terrain is either unbroken or littered with the remains of slain dream fragments. Immune to the call of either Dream or Nightmare, these barren dreamscapes drift to their own realm. The realm has no name; those who dwell here see no need for one. The realm is in the Near Marches, sheltered within a kink in the river Styx (on that river's long journey from Olympus through the Marches, before it circles behind Beleth's Tower to enter Hell). Undead who use the Ethereal Song of Projection for the first time will arrive here; they seldom willingly return. Being sent here is regarded as punishment duty by both sides in the War; Ethereals regard it as suicide. The realm is sluggish and unresponsive: any attempt to move into, out of or through this realm carries a -2 penalty. Worse, a failed roll causes CD Mind hits damage, as the lifeless realm sucks away the traveller's vitality. The effect is particularly debilitating for Ethereals; any ethereal reduced to zero Mind hits by the realm also loses a Force (as if slain in their home realm) as their very being is leeched away. Despite this, the realm is frequently sought out. Sorcerers who die in their sleep without becoming dreamshades often leave Talisman's behind, which lie in the mud of the realm until found (or until whoever possesses the physical form of the Talisman bonds it). The high average intelligence of the dreamers here means that Servitors of Lightning and Technology must often travel here to spy on a human scientist. Sorcerers perform Summon rituals while asleep, drawing demon(ling)s into the realm - and Gamesters sometimes have to follow to find and kill the annoying mortal. Finally, Blandine & Beleth regard this realm as an abomination (for slightly different reasons) and as a punishment sometimes send a Servitor here to recover a dreamer. Ambitious Servitors head here without orders, believing that recovering a dreamer is the best way to attract the favourable attention of their Lady. ========================================================================= James. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 10:48:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> In WoD: Cainites This plays right in to what I think this month's subject should be. Come on, it's October. Halloween, the Feast of Samhain -- this month has "Saminga" written all over it! ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The next time someones says "Talk is cheap," remind them of how much Oprah Winfrey makes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 10:55:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> IN Successors: The New Prince of Greed. - --- Rolland Therrien wrote: > Rezzack > > New Balseraph Prince of Greed. Heh heh... I like this. Looking forward to his Attunements and Distinctions, I am. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The next time someones says "Talk is cheap," remind them of how much Oprah Winfrey makes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 18:13:09 +0000 From: "cassandra benner" Subject: IN> Angel of door to door sales Heres something i just sent in to on of the lists down below. Enjoy ============================================================= "you know, i never thought i'd cut it as a sales man, i mean, i never thought i was a people person, but i guess at heart i am. Wassat? what do i sell, oh you wouldnt be interested.. oh, you do what to know, well, i sell all kinds of things, just general stuff, what ever the warehouse gives me, yesterday it was cloths for household serfaces, today, its polish and cleaners. "another drink for my freind here joey. "yeah joey knows me, i come here alot, joey buys some of my stuff, bars always need cleaning stuff dont they. "so, you come here after work eh? have a beer, relax and then head home, me married? heh, in a way, to the job, not to any woman. "yeah, i do get a lot of attention from some of the customers, i have my regulars, oh no, nothing like that, i mean they wanted it like that at first, but nah thats not the way to build up a good buisness is it? i mean, im on first name terms with just about all of my customers. "Elliot? thats a good name, i dont think i know any elliots, glad to meet ya, my names harry, you want a business card? yeah sure, i get different stuff every day or so, im always in the area "yeah, nice to meet you to elliot, heh yeah sure, you buy the beer tomorrow then ok, kay, bye." Haraniel Malakite of Marc Angel of door to door sales Some times evil doesnt come in the face of demons, it come with the face of bordom, and idle hands are a tool for the devil as the saying goes. Haraniels task is to bring some sort of release form the drudgery of life for bored housewives and single parent families. He is resposible for personally taking several Lusties out of action in the area and removing their human prey by giving them something else to do. Now admitadly not every body likes cleaning, but cleanliness is next to godliness after all. Harry goes round the area and brings some small release for people of all sorts, and in the end, some of the worst slums have been cleared up with him in the area. Notes. Haraniel's vessels all have Charisma +2, he knows all varients of the song of tongues and has a can of mace spray that causes celestial dammage to any Demons. Joey is a releiver, sent to earth to see how to fit in to human terms and relations, he is interested in working for David, and he is also thinking of fledging as a Cherub. ========================================================= Toodles Cas *where you come from is gone, where you're going was never there, and where you are aint no good unless you can get away from it* http://groups.yahoo.com/group/inmundi http://groups.yahoo.com/group/semperin http://groups.yahoo.com/group/inveritas http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Infabula _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 18:45:49 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: IN> Laurence supports Bush? A little something from the French game's mailing list (yes, its in english) http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/prayer.htm - -Perry perrylloyd@hotmail.com pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu http://www.geocities.com/perrylloyd/ "And that's the hardest thing for a human being to do - be wrong. Do you know that people would rather die than be wrong?" - --from A Matter For Men by David Gerrold _________________________________________________________________ Téléchargez MSN Explorer gratuitement à l'adresse http://explorer.msn.fr/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2397 ********************************