in_nomine-digest Sunday, October 7 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2405 In this digest: IN> Horror Month - Memo to the troops Re: IN> In honor of a new movie.... Re: > Subject: IN> Nuclear Annihilation and the two Psycho Princes IN> Rumour about Wind IN> Recovery Road Re: IN> Nuclear Armegeddon IN> In WoD: Benedict IN> Memo concerning Lilim of Fire. Re: IN> Memo concerning Lilim of Fire. IN> In WoD: The Hunters part 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 12:09:47 +1100 From: "james walker" Subject: IN> Horror Month - Memo to the troops To all Servitors heading to the Corporeal for the first time: Congratulations on your posting! You have been assigned your tasks; you will either succeed or die. Either is acceptable, and you should feel proud if you achieve both. While you work out which you're going to do, bear the following in mind: Other Words, even friendly Words like The War & Dark Humor, do not fully understand the fundamental significance of Death, and it's glorious importance. Be sure to make them understand - the following techniques work well: Demons of FIRE are usually skilled at manufacturing flammable materials; one favourite is called "wet mix thermite" (no, I don't know why something that burns it referred to as wet. Or if I do, you're not cleared to know why). Gutting an otherwise useless zombi and filling it's torso with this or a similar chemical to use as a mobile bomb can be mutually beneficial. Ensure that for every zombi you manufacture for this purpose you receive both a replacement corpse (insist on one which died of smoke inhalation - FIRE has no idea of how to treat a corpse) and the essence necessary for animation. Creative use of these 'fire-zombis' has earned a number of Necromancers rites from the Demon of Spontaneous Human Combustion. Demons of THE WAR are valuable for their tactical advice. Combined missions by Death, Fire and The War are invariably lead by the Warriors, as they have a commendable understanding of how to ensure maximum fatalities, and can be brought to understand the logistical concerns involved in recovering bodies from contested territory. Failure to fulfil your role in a mission lead by The War will result in your execution. Exciting, isn't it! Demons of DARK HUMOR are normally very creative at finding ways for humans to die. Naturally you must make it very clear that if they practice their Word on you, you will practice yours on them. Once this is understood, going along with their sometimes obscure schemes is worthwhile. Fire & Dark Humor - despite their mutual hostility, it is easy to get these demons to appreciate your presence. I recommend zombifying a corpse due to be cremated; order it to do nothing until cremation begins and then sit up and start screaming. Both Words appreciate this and like to be present to watch the reactions of human observers; further this can occur naturally to a corpse so the secrecy of the War has not been violated. Demons of GLUTTONY - These strange allies have an annoying tendency to keep humans alive; fattening them for slaughter is perhaps understandable (if distasteful) - letting them eat is not. They can frequently be persuaded to cause humans to starve to death by eating relief supplies - this is productive, as the starvation corpses can be used to fulfil the Needs of Undead. Humans they eat are gone forever, of course, but we must accept their right to kill humans whenever and however they please. Some things are simply too important to challenge. Ensure that every Glutton keeps a human as a "food-taster" this is someone who checks food for poisons by eating it. Then ensure that one of your underlings poisons his food. Watching his food-taster drop dead encourages the Glutton to listen to you; besides, it's aesthetically pleasing, and the food-taster makes an excellent zombi. Gluttons are usually skilled poisoners - proof that their hearts are in the right place, even if their bellies are unreliable. Lilim of FREEDOM - These strange demons profess to dislike to us; at the same time they tend to be running abortion clinics and will make a deal with us at the drop of a hat. Offering to help them break a mass-murderer out of jail is usually a good way to begin a working relationship; they can be counted on to encourage free access to weapons. As I said, strange demons, but they are productive, no matter what their motivations. RIVALS/ENEMIES: Demons of LUST - Sex is an incredibly inefficient way to kill someone. It does have one use, however - humans consider it an acceptable reason to kill someone (yes, humans want reasons!). If you know a humans' name, storming up, screaming "sleep with my lover will you, you bastard", killing them and then leaving is a simple way to spread the Word of Death and harm Lust. Zombifying groups of Lustful humans and sending them out to 'pack rape' other humans is usually enough to wrest control of a potential Tether from Lust - so long as the zombis are clearly dead. If you must use a Lustie in a mission threaten to kill them if they disobey you - then, when you are finished with them, say that you detected their intended treachery and then kill them anyway. Demons of FACTIONS, FATE, NIGHTMARES, THE MEDIA and THEFT - these no-hopers like to claim that civil wars and so on are the result of their efforts. The fact that the Warriors despise them is proof that this is untrue. They are of no use and are not a threat - they should be ignored unless killing them is convenient. Demons of THE GAME - The Executioners mean well; all they really want to do is kill demons on trumped-up charges. Sadly, they lack dedication to the cause and are easily bought off. They do have their uses; firstly, they can be bought off with proof of treason in other demons (and will cheerfully execute the patsy - bless 'em) and secondly, they frequently have Roles as lawyers. Getting a zombi to "change his will" leaving all their money to their 'illegitimate child'(you) and getting the Gamester to handle the legal aspects is productive, as it strengthens your Role and keeps the Gamester busy extracting money from the estate. On very rare occasions, you will actually get some money from the estate; spend it immediately - you won't be able to keep it. Demons of TEHCNOLOGY - Dealing with these idiots is annoying - and painful. Don't forget that they stole the ability to make zombis! Scum. Demons of Fire are our best supply of Technological devices; having zombis test the devices in return for getting a given percentage of the devices is one of the traditional means of acquiring them. The other is to kill Vapulans, of course - the fact that the Game will kill you if you are caught doing this should spur you to new heights of creativity. Tabeat, Demon of Suicide Missions, Marquis of Death. ========================================================================== James. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 02:37:16 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: Re: IN> In honor of a new movie.... I love all of them. Great tie in and the One Ring really shines through. Now all we need to do is get Beleth's discord ridden Undead to find his precacious for Hell! - -Charlie _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 19:39:29 +1100 From: "james walker" Subject: Re: > Subject: IN> Nuclear Annihilation and the two Psycho Princes > From: "Charles Phipps" > > My personal opinion... > > Saminga: WHAT!? KNOCK BEFORE YOU OPEN THE DOOR! KNOCK! > > Me: Errr sorry sir! I didn't see you playing with your dolls again! > > Saminga: GOOD! Well, I suppose Saminga would approve of "We brake for nobody!" bumper stickers. James. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 22:34:54 +1100 From: "james walker" Subject: IN> Rumour about Wind I was going to put this into a expanded write-up for Janus, but it's a little long. No matter: Janus is one of the oldest angels; possibly the first Ofanite. It is known that long before this world existed he enjoyed surfing the interstellar winds, mesmerised by the eddies and currents that spread throughout the universe. One quiet tale, told occasionally in Hell[!] or maybe even (very quietly) in Heaven, is that about over 5 Billion years ago, he feel in love with one particular eddy. The other Archangels were a little disturbed, as he now tended to remain in one patch of the universe, less than 10 Light years across, so they came and checked in on him. He enjoyed the extra company, and proudly showed them around the eddy. He knew enough to point out sections which each Archangel would enjoy. Not surprisingly, they ended up doing joint projects with him to improve sections. The accumulated gases swirled more brightly as Michael, Lucifer, Jean and Gabriel added their Words; Eli was always dropping in on his friend's pet project. Eventually, of course, the gases collapsed into a star. "Janus' star" became something of a Corporeal centre; since any Archangel would drop in their eventually, it was the place to go if you needed to communicate something throughout the angels in the realm. Janus tried to be a good host, and his ownership of the system was accepted without question. Other Archangels who spend much time here (and many did - it was simply the best place to have a Corporeal HQ) were careful to ensure that their work was to Janus' liking, and they liked to make gifts of their skills to him. And because God approved, he did the same - which is why Corporeal life began on a planet orbiting Janus' Star. The youngest Celestial to know that Janus owns the entire Solar System is Jordi; it just hasn't been irrelevant to mention the matter since then. Much as Janus loves and is proud of his system, he isn't materialistic enough to point his ownership out. Since the Fall, the older Archangels have been careful to avoid talking about the issue. You see, they're fully aware of what will happen if Dominic finds out. Dominic has never understood why Janus and his angels are willing to steal; if he finds out that they don't, that Janus owns it all, well..it is Unjust to claim ownership of something belonging to someone else - Dominic will forcibly seize the planet and hand it over to Janus. The older Demon Princes know as well, of course. They're not going to say anything, lest Dominic cease persecuting The Wind. And one of the younger Demon Princes knows, as well. As the Prince of Theft, Valefor knows that to truly steal anything, anything at all, he must wrest in from Janus. It galls him that he hasn't really succeeded - yet. This is the real reason why he opposes Janus, despite their many similarities. If the rumours reach the ears of angels, thing could prove interesting. They won't be able to confirm or deny the story. However a CD of 6 on a Seraph's resonance will resonate with a simple Truth - that the Solar System was formed out of the the swirling, interstellar gases of space - that every star was once part of Janus' Word. And that for an Archangel who insists on moving around, Janus has spent a LONG time in this one little cranny in the Universe. James. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 21:55:45 +0800 From: " Cameron McCurry" Subject: IN> Recovery Road Angels of Stone view drug and alcohol addiction very poorly. They see it as a type of weakness: the kind of weakness that they take grim pleasure in purging. Within the past few years, two angels of David’s have taken a very direct approach to this problem. Peter and Zuriel are, respectively, an Elohite and a Cherub of Stone who work with some of the worst cases of addiction. The people who are sent to them are close to death or jail for their problems. The two angels combine counseling and a brutal physical regime that is the trademark of Stone. They accept no excuses or compromises from their patients; nothing other than rehabilitation will work with these angels. In return for their patient’s struggles, the two angels make sure that the area where they live is safe for them to return to and that they have a job when they are released. They have built up a good reputation with local law enforcement as well as many judges. It has become known that when someone gets sent to the program, that person is going to be clean and sober within six months at the latest. They boast a very low recidivism rate, although that can be attributed to the Soldiers of Stone that follow up on reports that their charges have slipped back into old habits. This program has earned Peter and Zuriel the enmity of the local demons of Drugs and Gluttony. The drug trade is getting hit hard (literally and figuratively on account of the Soldiers that work with the two Stone angels) and the drop in alcohol consumption is not furthering Haagenti’s Word. But since the two angels of Stone aren’t using Essence or Songs to help heal people, the demons are unaware of the nature of the opposition. Both Peter and Zuriel would prefer keeping their natures a secret, but would happily teach any demon that gets too close a painful and final lesson. - -- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 09:47:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Nuclear Armegeddon - --- adamiani@umich.edu wrote: > So what stops a > couple of Shedim from posessing the president and > declaring world war > three? Or, for that matter, from grabbing ahold of a > couple of army > officers on a nuclear submarine somewhere and > turning the keys to launch > fiery death down upon millions? Their own side: after all, the higher-ups are all Word-bound. _Can_ damned souls alone provide the necessary juice to keep Word-Forces up? Quite possibly, but it's not exactly something that you want to experiment with, nu? ;) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 09/28/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 18:52:29 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> In WoD: Benedict Benedict Master of Law/Baron of Justice Elohim of Judgement/Habbalah of the Game Angel of Double Agents/Demon of Double Agents Cor-3 Str-6 Agi-6 Eth-5 Int-10 Pre-10 Cel-5 Will-10 Per-10 Artifacts: Whatever Dominic, Asmodeus, or his other allies give him or he's managed to "acquire" but looking at a James Bond film with a bit of Prophecy flavor should give you an idea of how he's usually equipped. Role: Secret Agent Emmanuelle Steed 6/ (NSA, CIA, FBI, all of the above?) Vessel: Human of VASTLY different guises 4/ (1- to +3 Charisma) Skills: Acting 6/, Angelic Secrets 4/, Computer Operation 3/, Computer Hacking 4/, Detect Lies 6/, Demonic Secrets 4/, Disguise 6/, Dodge 5/, Driving 3/, Emote 6/ (Mimicry), Escape 2/, Fast Talk 6/, Fighting 3/, Languages (You name it, he probably speaks it 6/), Lockpicking 3/, Lying 6/, Move Silently 4/, Savoir Faire 3/, Ranged Weapon (Pistol 2/), Small Weapon (Garrote 2/), Tactics 3/ (Infiltration) Songs: Song of Attraction (All 4/), Song of Dreams (All 3/), Song of Form (Ethereal 6/, Celestial 6/), Song of Light (All 3/), Song of Motion (Celestial 6/), Song of Possesion 5/, Song of Tongues (Ethereal 3/, Celestial 6/) Discord: Schizophrenia 6/ Attunements: Seraphim of Judgement, Cherubim of Judgement, Elohim of Judgement, Mercurian of Judgement, Incarnate Law, Heavengly Judgement, Master of Law, Angel of Double Agents/Lilim of the Game, Habbalah of the Game, Shedim of the Game, Dissonance Binding, Humanity, Knight of Judgement, Captain of Integrity, Baron of Justice, Demon of Double Agents Benedict the Elohim of Double Agents is hands down the best infiltrator Dominic has. Benedict the Habbalah is hands down the best infiltrator that Asmodeus has. In the halls of Judgement and the Archives the agent is something of a legend for the amount of information he's brought back from the other side and his missions almost invariably involve long term reconassiance into the heart of hosile territory where only his word is there to protect him against the Forces of Darkness or Light or powers aligned to both. On Earth the sinister "Man in Black" is known to appear quite often as the scene of crimes that have a somewhat spooky flavor to them and various government agencies have tried to determine just who exactly the man works for and why he is so classified up the wazoo that even the top men of their organizations are uncertain whether or not he works them. It's much the same with Heaven and Hell's Internal Affairs. Don't get Dominic or Asmodeus wrong they are well satisfied with Benedict's sucess ratio. There are very few among their respective servitors and spies that can boast a nearly 100% accuracy rating with their reports. However it's their job to be suspicious and especially of agents of theirs whose words put them in large amounts of contact with the "other team". Benedict constantly walks a very thin line with his Superiors with his frequent dissapearences, conflicting reports about what he's been up to, and the simple AMMOUNT of information that the Angel/Demon is able to provide. Both would dearly like to pull the plug on the strange fellow but are constrained by their natures against doing so. Dominic knows that would be an unfair judgement due to complete lack of evidence against him and cost Heaven an extremely valuable source of information that his own resonance tells him is always on the up and up. Asmodeus has no such restrictions against being fair but the idea that some one is pulling off an intrigue he can't figure out (let alone Dominic) is so anti-ethical to his nature as the Master of the Game he's sure he will be able to play along until he can prove his suspicions and somehow use it to his advantage. Benedict would dearly like to allay the fears of both of his superiors but in truth he isn't sure which side he's working for himself. One of the few Angels of Judgement "okayed" by Dominic for working with the game to track down demons it caused quite a stir when his infiltration of Hell allowed him to acquire the evidence needed to show that Makatiel was trying to destroy the Human race. What is still classified about that mission is that during his infiltration of the Demon Prince of Disease's palace the entire mission nearly collapsed and only the intervention of God allowed Benedict to pass himself off as a Demon long enough to escape and thus help bring about the destruction of the Renegade Habbalah. The Seraphim Council was truly shocked that upon examination Benedict had apparently been gifted with a Word by Divine Favor. The Angel of Double Agents even as he "fell" and joined Asmodeus had started to doubt his cause of whether either Heaven or Hell were fully in the right and an encounter with Lucifer resulted in his being gifted with a word "befitting" his accomplishment with Makatiel. His discord hidden by powers even Dominic and Asmodeus cannot breask he's not sure anymore if he's Elohim, Habbalah, or some weird hybrid of them both. In truth his ultimate loyalty to Heaven, Hell, the Pagan Gods, Humanity, Himself, God, or specific causes (the Grigori, Renegades, Outcasts, Uriel) now changes with the drop of a hat and those he travels with very likely to be betrayed one minute by him only to have him rescue them an hour later like it was part of his plan all along. Sometimes it is, Sometimes it isn't, he can't remember. As the Angel of Double Agents he may appear as a Demon to all resonance checks unbreakable by any save PERHAPS Lucifer himself. Furthermore in the cause of his word he may act as emotional or unjust as necessary in order to gain information for the "greater good" without dissonance. His thoughts when using this attunement reflect an "angel's" not his own to all resonance checks. As the Demon of Double Agents he may appear as a Angel to all resonance checks unbreakable by any save God (Or Yves?). He suffers no dissonance for disobeying direct orders or helping renegades escape judgement as long as it helps Asmodeus's cause more out in the "end". His thoughts when using this attunement reflect a Habbalah style "angel's" not his own to all resonance checks. Benedict also does not suffer dissonance from the light of Heaven or his discord show up to even Superiors. - -Charlemagne _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 10:34:22 +1100 From: "james walker" Subject: IN> Memo concerning Lilim of Fire. Memo to all Tethers of The Sword in the Northern Hemisphere: We would like to warn you that Ruby, Lilim of (Demonic) Fire no longer appears to be operating in South America, and given her usual methods will probably appear in a Northern city shortly before your first fall of snow. What we have been able to gather of her abilities follows; remember that she may have other abilities: RUBY LILIM OF FIRE CORPOREAL FORCES: 3 Strength: 6 Agility: 6 ETHEREAL FORCES : 3 Intelligence: 6 Precision: 6 CELESTIAL FORCES: 3 Will: 5 Perception:7 Vessel: Young Woman/2, Charisma+3; Role(Idle Rich/6)/2. Skills: Dodge/1, Emote/2 ,Throwing/1. Songs: Tongues(Corporeal/2, Ethereal/6, Celestial/1?) Attunements: Balseraph of Fire; Lilim of Fire. Servants/Geases: Described below. Ruby wanders large cities during the middle of winter. Where ever there is somebody shivering in a doorway or huddled under layers of rags, Ruby is likely to be found. She doesn't speak to those she finds; not aloud, anyway. Nor do the homeless realise that she is the cause of them suddenly being warm. But the voice in their heads they here afterwards is irresistible Ruby invokes the Geases she gains from her Balseraph of Fire attunement immediately, ordering the victim to storm a location (usually a department store, supermarket or restaurant; however she enjoys driving them to attack charitable organisations) on a specific day, often weeks or months later. While low level geases can only be invoked to order the individual to steal food or smash a window, at least one of her victims will be ordered to torch the building. The timing of these attacks is valuable information and Ruby is assumed to sell the times to the nearest Tether of The Media. Long before the riots are beginning, Ruby has already left the city and begun working elsewhere; she normally starts in the extreme North (or South) and works towards the equator as winter worsens. It's unknown where she spends the spring/autumn months. Her success depends on her Geases not being fought, of course; however few mundanes can do so. Every now and again, one of the homeless is found dead in the street - and is welcomed as a hero and martyr in Heaven. Even then, the Geas remains, so these Blessed are advised to travel up Jacob's Ladder as soon as practical. James. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 02:06:26 +0000 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> Memo concerning Lilim of Fire. >Her success depends on her Geases not being fought, of course; however few >mundanes can do so. Every now and again, one of the homeless is found dead >in the street - and is welcomed as a hero and martyr in Heaven. Even then, >the Geas remains, so these Blessed are advised to travel up Jacob's Ladder >as soon as practical. Yich. Truly foul. (That's a compliment.) But if the homeless person fought the Geas, and therefore froze to death rather than accept warmth, then why would he still have a Geas on him? (Or did the Lilim just kill him when she couldn't hook him?) Janet Anderson _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 22:48:29 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> In WoD: The Hunters part 1 *TOP SECRET* *URGENT* *OPEN IMMEDIATELY* To: The Most Righteous Archangel of Judgement, Lord Dominic From: Your ever faithful Angel of Double Agents, Benedict Re: The Imbued Most Righteous Lord I am pleased to note that you have recieved the information on the Fair Folk and our Commander of the Host is even now identifying it but unfortuantely recent events in the Pit have caused me to become more unnerved than has been possible for many a century. A large number of demons have recently been showing up in trauma and reports of renegades among Saminga are at an all time high, not a bad occurence for the most part as it keeps the Game busy. However coordinating the reports I have managed to gather enough evidence from Hell that combined with the materials I am allowed as a loyal Angel of Heaven . My conclusion I fear is inescapable.... An Archangel has gone Rogue. History The Imbued as they term themselves are a extremely new phenemenon socially though they bear no difference to standard sixth and seventh force awakened soldiers but for a few extra attunements, rites, and songs. Ever since the Archangels of the Host first chose to Exalt Mortals starting with Lucifer's Solarius have mortals been a staple of Heaven's legions against the darkness and those who would prey on evil. However since the Age of Myth came to an end after the Flood the societies of Heaven and to a far lesser extent Hell have tried to keep the war under reasonable veils of secrecy. Humans should never advance or achieve their destinies it was said if every moment of their lives was spent worrying about the forces of darkness comming beating down their door or being drafted for Heaven's forces let alone the interference mortals might bring for good or ill to operations. Unfortunately recent events threaten to shatter that compact of secrecy (or given mortals through the Church and traditions know about Heaven and Hell's..err "enimity", discretion is perhaps a better word). Starting in 1998 in a series of events occuring worldwide mortals encountering disturbances in the Symphony had their forces awakened and were "imbued" by an unknown force with a "Second Sight" that allowed them to identify a great deal of the Supernatural for what they were be it demons in vessels, the undead, Cainites, or Garou. This symphonic awareness spread like wildfire across all class, race, and religeous lines with seemingly no rhyme or reason. If this were not enough the "Hunters" I have talked to identified that they were recieving messages from what was obviously the Celestial Song of Tongues. These Messangers which most identified as angels but quite a few had wilder theories (Universal Unconcious, aliens, etc but it is my belief they are the same source) commanded them to go forth and do battle with the hosts of the supernatural in the world. You may see already the disturbing aspect. Cross referencing Jean's Master Database Link to mortal affair reports I was able to develop a correlation between the rise in Murder, Assault, Suicides, and Fatal Accidents (among hosts of other violent crimes) and the appearence of these Imbued. In the initial period it seems that confusion caused fully half and probably more of the Imbued to get themselves killed attacking everything supernatural they detected though I have yet to fully determine if any assaults on angels have occured . I must stress Lord Dominic that these mortals for the most part were and are still untried non-combat experienced human beings with little to guide them save the horrofying revelation that evil in an incarnate form exists. In fact not possesing the illustrious wisdom of the Commander of the Host or yourself they often throw themselves into despair or simply break mentally in unnecessary property damage, civilian causalties, violation of the discretion compact, and death of supernaturals not necessarily deserving of the Ban . After the first six months of their existence some attempt to join together was aided I believe by the very same messangers supplying them with temporal leads, disgustingly ambigious encouragement, and occasionally misleading advice. The Internet ironically enough proved to be their refuge in a mailing list referred to as "hunter.net" which has become the first keystones that the Imbued might become a fully fledged society. . Rapidly exchanging information unfortunately reason does not entirely prevail and actual murder of each other using the net to track one another down has occurred in addition to plots to "bust the conspiracy of the supernatural open" and frank plots to murder and destroy the evil. I have no objections to the proper pursuit of the War nor do I question Most Holy that many brave and courageous mortals have achieved their destines because of direct service to Heaven but this lack of supervision is just to me wasteful. Currently the society is further fragmenting with what is best termed "cults of personality" forming with some taking the fight well beyond even the Messangers ambiguity to the White Power element, Christian Fundamentalism of the most hateful ignorant sort (By this I mean only "saved" mortals of specific intolerant beliefs that include sexist and backwoods community overtones shall inherit the Earth), and in one case World Domination. However for the most part the philosophical spectrum is solely divided in "Creeds" representing a person's interpretation of how the "War on the Supernatural" should be handled and including some apparent direction from the Messangers. In my opinion as I will show later the only person that could be rensponsible for this mass "Great Awakening" (to corrupt a term for religeous revivals of the 19th century) is one of our own gone insane. TO BE CONTINUED - -Charlemagne _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2405 ********************************