in_nomine-digest Saturday, July 7 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2450 In this digest: Re: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2444 Re: IN> Bright Lilim. Re: IN> Bright Lilim. Re: IN> Bright Lilim. IN> Abiressia Part I Re: IN> Bright Lilim. Re: IN> Bright Lilim. Re: IN> Bright Lilim. IN> Re: Makatiel IN> EPG query IN> Lilim Princess? IN> A slightly different idea.. Re: IN> A slightly different idea.. Re: IN> A slightly different idea.. Re: IN> A world of magic.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:43:59 -0500 From: "Brian R. Boyko" Subject: Re: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2444 At 05:17 PM 11/18/01 +0000, you wrote: >"Fighting for Peace is like Fucking for Virginity." > >jo Hmm. I might use this logic on cute, chaste, war hawks - there's no possible way they could disagree with me there! Besides, physical pleasure is patriotic as a general rule anyway. Brian. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:52:09 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Bright Lilim. At 11:47 PM -0500 11/16/01, William J. Keith wrote: [...] >Hmm... supposing we doublecheck this as authoritatively as the LE would >require to be satisfied, and it comes out correctly. Would making it -- >that is, singular, bahiyri, plural, bahiyrim -- canon require a >particularly difficult process? As a tertiary name? If there are citations around, it might sneak in somewhere. (Or not, depending.) It likely wouldn't be quick, for the simple reason that it'd be likely to get inserted into a 2nd printing somewhere. Or a 2nd edition, sometime after the APG sells out... (Their official secondary name is "Gifters" -- much as Elohim have Powers as a secondary and the hardly-every-used whatever it is (Hayyoth? Or is that Cherubim?) for a third. - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:48:21 -0800 From: "Bevan Thomas" Subject: Re: IN> Bright Lilim. > >(Their official secondary name is "Gifters" -- much as Elohim have Powers >as a secondary and the hardly-every-used whatever it is (Hayyoth? Or is >that >Cherubim?) for a third. "Hayyoth" is Cherubim. It means "Holy Heavenly Beasts." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:50:17 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Bright Lilim. - --- Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > (Their official secondary name is "Gifters" -- much as > Elohim have Powers > as a secondary and the hardly-every-used whatever it is > (Hayyoth? Or is that Cherubim?) for a third. Yep. Hayyoth is the tertiary name for Cherubim. Which irked me to no end when I wanted to use that name for Jordi's minor Choir. 0:> ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Love is an exploding cigar which we willingy smoke." -- Linda Barry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:51:59 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: IN> Abiressia Part I I promised you a Lilim Princess and here she is! Abiressia Lilim Princess of the Wild "The world is wild and must never be tamed." Abiressia is one of the oldest Lilim in existence. She began as a Free because her wild spirit refused to accept the yoke of a Prince. Abiressia paid off her Geasa to Lilith (all but the last one that "Mother" insists on keeping) as fast as she could manage. This was both the start of her troubles and the key to the eventual gaining of her Princedom. When Abiressia got down to her last Geas, she received a visit from a demon named Teba'at. The Habbalah informed her that he was from the Game and had been watching her for some time. Hell, he said, had reasons to question her loyalty. Teba'at smiled as he reminded her of what happened to Free Lilim who were found guilty of treason. It would, of course, be best if she were to seek service with some Prince; then he wouldn't have to turn her in. Abiressia managed to fast-talk her way into getting more time to decide on a Prince to serve. What she was really after was time to find another option, but the Gamester didn't need to know that. No sooner did Teba'at leave than Abiressia went running to Lilith -- owing another Geas was better than getting stuck with any Prince. The situation would've ended with Abiressia binding herself to Lilith in exchange for protection from the Game if not for the timing. As Abiressia was arriving at the Guildhall, Lilith was engaged in a Superior-level game with Andrealphus. The stakes were small by the standards of such beings; the loser would serve the winner for a period of seven years. The final move was made just as Abiressia entered the gallery -- and the Prince of Lust won. Lilith could barely conceal her distress as the terms of the wager forced her into conflict, however slight, with her Word. The Princess of Freedom racked her brain for a way out when a voice rang out from the gallery. "I will take my mother's place." All eyes turned to Abiressia as she continued, "I owe my mother a debt for my very existence. It is only fitting that I show my appreciation by this sacrifice. And in return," she said with obvious triumph in her voice, "I ask only that, because of this act, we will be even." Lilith was torn between her desire to be free of the wager and the temptation to blast her insolent daughter into loose Forces. Fortunately for Abiressia, Andrealphus stepped in before Lilith made up her mind. "What loyalty! What devotion! Truly, my dear, your daughters are rare creatures indeed to offer you such a gift. Would that my Servitors would do as much for me. I am honored to accept such a generous offer as this. And I promise," he said, his eyes agleam, "That I will treat her just as delicately as I would've treated you." And Lilith scowled, for she knew as well as Andrealphus did that the Prince of Lust accepted the offer for one reason alone - to gall the Princess of Freedom as she lost her last remaining hold on one of her daughters. But, seeing no way out of it, Lilith agreed and removed the last chain from Abiressia's neck. Then Andrealphus led his new prize off to Shal-Mari. Abiressia never speaks of her first years of service to the Beautiful Prince; all that is known is that she truly won his favor. Within three years she was arranging orgies in Hell and throwing parties on Earth, but she found her true calling in the wildernesses. Abiressia reveled in instincts both sensual and predatory -- and there's no place better than Hell for learning to appreciate the law of the jungle. She also saw that Humans who were caught up in satisfying their instinctual needs were less likely to use their free will to avoid damnation. This insight and the brilliant use to which Abiressia put it led Andrealphus to sponsor her for the Word of Instinct. Abiressia's meeting with Lucifer is shrouded in mystery (even Alaemon hasn't been able to find out anything about it, much to his chagrin). But when she emerged from the Lightbringer's chambers, she came out with a Word and a Princedom. Lucifer set the newly crowned Feral Princess the task of opposing Jordi in the Corporeal realm. Abiressia relishes this task despite knowing that she is not yet strong enough to oppose Jordi directly. For now she walks softly in the wild places and concentrates her efforts on making people act like animals. Abiressia sees Humanity's bestial side as the key to its damnation. DISSONANCE Demons of the Wild can never allow themselves to be tamed. They must act out of instinct and passion rather than intellect. It is all right to think and plan, but such thought must employ base cunning rather than cold reason. The demon can maintain a civilized veneer for a number of days equal to her Corporeal Forces. After that, she must cast off all vestiges of civilization and give in to her instincts, running naked and free through the wilderness for at least a day. BAND ATTUNEMENTS Balseraphim Abiressia's Liars are masters of stealth. They subtract their Corporeal Forces from the TN of any attempt to track or detect them. Djinn (Restricted) Djinn of the Wild can Attune to a living animal -- including a Human -- if they have a sample of its tissue (a lock of hair, toenail clippings, a blood stain, etc.). Calabim Destroyers in Abiressia's service don't Disturb the Symphony when playing any Numinous Corpus that duplicates the natural weapons or defenses of an animal. For example, they create no Disturbance with NC: Claws or NC: Wings, but they create a normal Disturbance with NC: Flame. Habbalah (Restricted) These Punishers can destroy inhibitions and make their victims go wild. They add their Corporeal Forces to the CD of a successful roll when using their Resonance to amplify whatever emotion the target is feeling at the time. Lilim (Restricted) Abiressia's Lilim can focus their Resonance so as to only detect basic instinctual Needs without penalty (hunger, thirst, sex, etc.; refer to the Infernal Player's Guide, p. 50 under "More Sophisticated Uses of Resonance"). When they satisfy such a Need, they add their Corporeal Forces to the TN of any attempt to Geas that person. Shedim (Restricted) A Shedite of the Wild knows the Celestial Song of Beasts and can play it on a Human Host without creating a Disturbance (playing it on a Vessel taken over by means of the Song of Possession is another story). The Song is known at a level equal to the demon's Celestial Forces. Impudites (Restricted) A Taker of the Wild can invest stolen Essence into bones, thus creating temporary Reliquaries. The bones must be buried in earth in order to retain the Essence. Once a Reliquary bone is dug up or before it is buried, it bleeds off 1 Essence into the Symphony at the end of each hour (creating a normal Disturbance) until it is empty or reburied. The maximum Essence that one bone can hold is equal to the demon's Celestial Forces, and the total number of bones held by one demon can never exceed his Corporeal Forces. SERVITOR ATTUNEMENTS Alpha Demons of the Wild understand social hierarchies and how to move up in them. The demon has a bonus of +2 to the CD of any successful roll to establish dominance. An Abiressian with this Attunement and a Role is treated as if her Status is one level higher than it actually is. Regeneration The demon's current Vessel heals at twice the normal rate, and any use of the Corporeal Song of Healing on the possessor of this Attunement heals twice the normal amount of Body Hits (the wound might still leave a scar). Even lost limbs or organs will grow back eventually (GM's call as to how long that takes; a finger or eye might grow back in a few weeks while a lost arm would take at least six months). Abiressia often grants this Attunement to her Soldiers. Sense of Scents The demon's sense of smell is superhumanly acute. She has +3 to the TN of any Tracking roll if she knows and can smell the target's scent. She can also smell pheromones; with a successful Perception roll, the demon knows the subject's basic emotional state (equal to the Elohite Resonance on a CD of 1). DISTINCTIONS Knight of Proteus Abiressia's Knights are proficient shapeshifters. With no Essence expenditure at all, they can play the Celestial Song of Form on themselves as if they had spent Essence equal to their Corporeal Forces. They can still spend Essence normally for greater effects. Captain of Chameleons As above, but it also applies to the Corporeal Song of Form and the Celestial Song of Beasts. None of these three Songs creates Disturbance. Baron of Devolution As above, but all of the effected Songs can now be played on others. The subject always takes on an animalistic appearance. HIGHER DISTINCTIONS Abiressia only offers two Higher Distinctions outside of Hell's normal peerage system. Askari These demons have proven their loyalty in promoting the Word of the Wild. They are also proficient hunters of angels. All are quite powerful, and most are Word-bound. Shikari The Shikari are Abiressia's most fearsome fighters. A demon must be Word-bound and Distincted and must have killed a Word-bound angel in order to earn this Distinction. Each Shikari has a squad of Askari at his disposal. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Love is an exploding cigar which we willingy smoke." -- Linda Barry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:15:18 +0800 From: Manny Nepomuceno Subject: Re: IN> Bright Lilim. Hey, (Their official secondary name is "Gifters" -- much as Elohim have Powers >as a secondary and the hardly-every-used whatever it is (Hayyoth? Or is that >Cherubim?) for a third. Dynamis, as I recall. Thanks, ;) Manny Nepomuceno http://www.geocities.com/angeloffools Q: How do you make God laugh? A: Make a plan. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:58:35 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Bright Lilim. - --- Bevan Thomas wrote: > "Hayyoth" is Cherubim. It means "Holy Heavenly > Beasts." Am I the only one who's suddenly flashing back to the old Batman series now? Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/13/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:23:28 -0800 From: "Bevan Thomas" Subject: Re: IN> Bright Lilim. Heh. How about Hayyel, angel of animals? His name means "Holy Beast of God," which sounds even more like a swear word. Hmm. I wonder if that's another name for Jordi? Though it might get a little confusing, Jordi being called Hayyel and Cherubim being called Hayyoth. >From: Maurice Lane >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: Re: IN> Bright Lilim. >Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:58:35 -0800 (PST) >Am I the only one who's suddenly flashing back to the >old Batman series now? > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:36:57 -0600 From: "Cthulhu" Subject: IN> Re: Makatiel Thanks for all the info everyone ... just one more question: *When* was Maktiel killed, or is there any period given for this? Michael Walton wrote: > Pazuzu, Shedite Princess of Plagues. I'll repost it if >there's enough interest, or you can send me a private >message and I'll send it just to you. I'd love to see this, but I'll wait until I post the Makatiel writeup I'm nearly finished with. Otherwise I'll just subconciously copy your stuff :) james walker wrote: >YES! Page 126: Thanks for these ... I'm not sure if I'll edit them or not, but I ought to have my post ready by the end of the week. Yes, caNon. I deserved that one Beth. Cthulhu _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:38:22 -0600 From: "Cthulhu" Subject: IN> EPG query I was off the list all Summer, so sorry if this has been addressed, but... Will *The Marches* be required to use the upcoming EPG, or will it be completly standalone? A concerned Ethereal God _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 05:38:26 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: IN> Lilim Princess? Did Part I of my Lilim DP write-up come through or should I post it again? ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Love is an exploding cigar which we willingy smoke." -- Linda Barry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:42:45 -0500 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: IN> A slightly different idea.. I blame the List and the prolonged discussion of David's Dissonance conditions for this one. It was seven PM and Nine Stitch was still open for business. In the middle of the shop, a table had been set up and several women were gathered around. They worked on their various knitting projects and caught each other up on the latest news. It was a regular meeting for them; every one of the women relied on each other for company and were joined together by a love of knitting. The tranquility was shattered by a young man who burst in through the front door. He pointed a gun at the group as his dilated eyes tried to focus. "One of you empty the register NOW! Move it or I start shooting!" The lady at the head of the table got up and moved cautiously towards the register. She kept her hands up and smiled at him. "Just calm down young man. You don't need to point that gun at us." "Lady, I ain't here for a discussion. Now MOVE IT!" The last two words were punctuated by the robber slapping her across the face with his pistol. Since his back was now towards the group, he didn't see what happened next. A blinding pain shot across his body. He turned sluggishly and realized that one of the women was brandishing a telescoping baton. Turning to face her was a bad mistake though as it left his face exposed as a target. He went to the ground with a sickening thud. The woman who wielded the baton looked over at her friend. "Mary, are you-" "Fine, Samantha just fine. I landed all right but I'll probably be sore for days." She looked at the women who were gathering around the man. He had curled into a tight fetal position and was moaning in pain. "So, do we call the cops or the Coroner's office first?" Back at the table were two women that watched events unfold. One of them turned a shocked gaze to her companion. "Did you see that? How could they do this?" The other woman smiled at her. "Now, dear, just calm down. Yes, it looks horrifying but there is nothing wrong with protecting ourselves. Stay awhile and we'll explain. That is, after we've finished with this mess.." When they first heard about it, Novalis turned varying shades of white, beige and green, Laurence was stunned into silence for several minutes, Michael's jaw dropped in shock and Janus couldn't stop laughing. David simply shrugged in response, which was about all they could get out of the Archangel of Stone. There was this Elohite of David's who was sent to Earth to teach humans the Way of Stone. Now, the typical response for one of David's people is to set up martial arts classes, Zen monasteries or bike gangs. But let's face it; that's been done over and over again. The Elohite realized this within five minutes and came to the conclusion that a different approach might be in order. She stumbled on a group of women that gathered regularly to knit completely by accident. She sat in on a meeting once and was intrigued by the group dynamic that Stone was completely overlooking. Not only that, but she learned how to make a sweater. After a bit of analysis of all available facts, she could not come up with any reason why a group of older women should not learn how to protect themselves and how to stay together. After all, the elderly have just as much a right and a need to protect themselves. There was no reason that they should depend on others. So she stayed with the group and got to work. David was somewhat skeptical at the whole idea, but the results that the Elohite achieved earned his approval. Some of the women have even become Soldiers of Stone much to the surprise of the local angels. The Infernal side has yet to learn about them, but it will certainly come as an unpleasant surprise the next time some hotheaded Calabite gets the notion that slapping an old woman around is a good warm up exercise. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:09:10 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> A slightly different idea.. - --- Cameron McCurry wrote: > I blame the List and the prolonged discussion of > David's Dissonance conditions for this one. But if the thread produced work like this, it was worth it. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Love is an exploding cigar which we willingy smoke." -- Linda Barry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:23:32 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> A slightly different idea.. From: "Cameron McCurry" > > She sat in on a meeting once and was intrigued > by the group dynamic that Stone was completely > overlooking. Not only that, but she learned how > to make a sweater. This was my favorite part of a very entertaining message. Good work, Cameron! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:53:03 -0600 From: "Cthulhu" Subject: Re: IN> A world of magic.... I'm biased on this topic, because I like the Anita Blake series and (most) of what they've done, but this still brings to mind an argument I once heard a friend of mine use to make a religious nut go away. (my friend in question using knowledge gleaned from IN to come up with this) Heaven in a working Communist state. Hell is Capitalism. Not wanting to make generalisations about Americans, but I can see where most politicians would take this concept. Plus the whole "Project Silence" argument, pointing out that most fundamentalists wouldn't believe an In Nomine angel to be a *real* angel, based on behaviour and occasional comments, on such topics ans the Bible and Jesus, if nothing else. Plus what happens when they find out about the past deeds of Gabriel and Khalid. It strikes me that Hell, with it's talent for bending minds and its Habbalah willing and able to act like Old Testament angels, has the distinct advantage here. Sorry if this is poorly structured, but my head is spinning from staring at Cthulhu _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2450 ********************************