in_nomine-digest Friday, November 23 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2456 In this digest: Re: IN> Re: Another Question - Forces. IN> Rebirth Pt 3 Rites and Opinions Re: IN> Re: Something Different IN> RE:Bright Lilim Re: IN> RE:Bright Lilim Re: IN> Re: Something Different IN> Happy Thanksgiving! Re: IN> RE:Bright Lilim IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2455 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:11:21 -0500 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Another Question - Forces. >Both sides are trying to destroy the other. If Forces simply recycle, soul >killing an opposing Celestial hasn't achieved anything; the Forces return to >the appropriate realm and form new relievers/demonlings. Using your analogy, >it's like mugging someone and then putting the money back in their account. More like mugging someone and scattering the money to the wind -- theoretically, they might be able to recapture it. More realistically, it's just gone. Not to mention that alol the memories and experience of a single celestial are like jotted notes written on those bills -- those are gone forever. It's like this: burn a painting to ashes. All the material is still there, but you can't put it back together in its original form. If you soul-kill a celestial, all the Forces are still there, but you can't put them back together They don't necessarily form new relievers -- that takes effort, or at least Essence. They might also form humans, animals, or anything else in the Universe. [snip stuff about tactics and victory valuations] Another important value placed on humans by the more pragmatic Superiors is Essence -- millions of dead humans in your Realm, regenerating a daily Essence, either giving it up under torture (Hell) or voluntarily donating it (Heaven) boosts your Word and your Side considerably. >Cheers, James. William ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:05:45 +1300 From: "Terry Jackson" Subject: IN> Rebirth Pt 3 Rites and Opinions Basic Rites: *Prevent any affliction from being discovered in a being *Assist in the creation of a new Virus *Discover a new harmful bacteria *Free an insane person Extended Rites: *Destroy a source of a cure for a disease *Cause someone to be shunned because of their affliction *Shift the medias' attention away from any current affliction. Chance of Invocation: 1 +1 Someone sneezing +2 A cough in a jar +3 The writings of the insane +4 The body of someone who died from the common cold +5 The germs that killed him +6 Proof that Virii are invading aliens Archangels: Blandine: A nightmare in itself. (She is Afflicted with Love. I'll drag her down with it.) Christopher: Another danger to my charges, I'll step up immunisation programs. (Who?) David: He has lost his dedication to destruction, but his new insidiousness bothers me. Deal with him the old fashioned way. (Gah! Stay away, stay away!) Dominic: Note to self, contact Asmodeus as soon as possible. (I should know that name. Why am I feeling cold?) Janus: My winds will purge the clouds of plague from the Earth. I am the itch you can't scratch, not him. (Oh my Lord protect me from this fool. You can't stop me from spreading like leukemia in a lymph system.) Jean: The risks of him being allowed to walk the Earth again are too high. I wonder if Lucifer actually has considered them? (His technology will hinder me, but my servants will turn it into my greatest tools.) Jordi: As Disease he was insane. He has lost his memories of the past but not his zeal. His position in the food chain has not yet been defined. (Animals feel pain, they carry the poisons to the humans and they also have souls that can been corrupted. Why not focus on this untapped resource of Essence?) Khalid: I have faith that he will be dealt with quickly. (As zealous as Laurence and as determined to wipe me out. Try to keep your distance) Laurence: Another risen from the ashes? Kill him! (I don't do one to one combat. I prefer the sidelines.) Lithroy: His greatest secret everyone else keeps from him. When we meet I'll break the ice by revealing his former glory. That alone should cause him to crack, then we'll remove him once again. (My mind is a fortress and he will NEVER pluck my secrets from me.) Marc: I'd hate to say it, but with him around the flow of medicine will definately increase to impoverished areas. I'll make sure that it gets to the right places. (Useless in the grand scheme of things. It is a small matter to plug up his supply lines.) Michael: Pathetic creature with no memory. It's a shame I wasn't invited to kill Makatiel the first time, this time I'll make sure my name is at the top of the list. (Not someone I want to be in the same room with) Novalis: The creation of Chora from Makatiel's shattered Remnant is a horrible thing to befall the planet Earth. I can heal what he brings, but not forever. (Following me around cleaning up the messes... I'll start leaving a rearguard.) Zadkiel: The Protection against diseases is part of my Word. I'll stand with whoever wants to destroy him. (Poking a hole in a condom one day, poisoning the Pill the next... My work is never done.) Demon Princes Andre: There is something to be said for an STD now and again. Just as long as my toys don't grow ugly from it, I couldn't care less. (How I love him. Teach a minion of his a nice Song and get them to carry my beautiful plagues across the carnal universe.) Asmodeus: Damn him and his rebirth. Lucifer has his reasons. If he steps across the line again though.... (Again that feeling of cold. Shut the door or I might catch something.) Baal: Germ Warfare is a legitimate practice and I will capitalise on his ascention. (He approached me about field testing, how can I refuse?) Beleth: His Fears are all too well known to me. If he dares to interfere in my war with Blandine I will crush him in his own memories. (*sigh* The ties that bind her to Blandine may be invisible but I can still see that she still cares. That is an Affliction of Denial. I have her.) Belial: Burn the infected on huge pyres! I like it! (And why not? Someone will breathe in the ashes and contract emphazeama) Fleurity: I like my business to flow, sometimes it is good to have a nice disease spread like wildfire through a community from a needle. Help to divert attention from the crackerheads! (Another one who understands God's true plan. Use him and his peons well.) Furfur: Soft, I ain't got no love for him, but Baal says that he has his uses. I ain't found them yet. (Oh please. Give me a break.) Haagenti: *Scoff* You what? *munch* Does he taste good? *chew* (Not even worth comment) Kobal: He is priceless. Doesn't know that he is Makatiel, and doesn't know what happened to him. This is a punchline I don't want some uptight Djinn ruining. (He afflicts humanity with scorn and sarcasm. That is good enough for me... his evil is a viriulent strain.) Kronos: He met his Fate once. Now he can meet it again, with the proper preparations I can even see him taking a good portion of the Host with him. (Baldness perhaps? There is something about him I don't like.) Lilith: He is now free to complete what he once started. Yes I know if he will or not... shall we discuss payment? (She is an excellent source of information. I needn't worry with repayment, once God has cleansed the evil from the world she will be no more.) Malphas: Well I *Like* the guy, he does promote disparity in diseased communities. (What I start, he nurtures until he has created a pestulant sore ripe for culturing.) Mammon: I can *so* reap the benefits of Aid. There is always some way to skim off the top. (As pathetic as Marc is really. Just a toy) Nybbas: Anthrax devestates US! Ebola resurges in Africa! Cholora takes hold in Egypt! He IS news baby! (An excellent fan to my flames) Saminga: If I was capable of love I think I would love him. All his afflicted come to me in the end. (A perfect partner. He can be a touch to keen to kill them off though.) Vapula: I can create such marvels in my labs and he can distribute them for testing. His focus is tuned to research just as much as mine. If he wasn't so dangerously insane that is... (Tools tools tools. My work continues) Valefor: Hey, wanna see what I got from Makatiel's pockets? (Where the hell did my diary go?) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:16:04 -0600 From: toadpooka@juno.com Subject: Re: IN> Re: Something Different On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:40:44 -0800 "Bevan Thomas" writes: > > Oh, and Eli's favored human form would be Black. He'd look more or > less like Bob Marley This is good; the illustration in the main book is kinda hard to swallow. I don't like that my favorite archangel goes around as a white guy with dreadlocks, one of the worst looks in history. From Whom It May Concern, Rich Ranallo "Rock and Roll will be the new planetary culture, believe it or not." - -Prof. Michio Kaku ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:15:32 -0000 From: "Adam Benedict Canning" Subject: IN> RE:Bright Lilim Beth wanted a cite. Online English Hebrew dictionaries are a little hard to come by. Bahiyr:- bright, brilliant (of light)[from an unused root to be bright] http://www.biblestudytools.net/Lexicons/Hebrew/heb.cgi?number=0925&ver sion=kjv Adam - -- Otherwords meaning bright in KJV http://www.biblestudytools.net/Lexicons/Hebrew/heb.cgi?search=bright&v ersion=kjv&type=eng&submit=Find ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:27:43 +0000 From: "Jo Hart" Subject: Re: IN> RE:Bright Lilim If the word you want is light (as in opposite of darkness) then it would be 'aur' (as in Uriel ;) ) jo >From: "Adam Benedict Canning" >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: >Subject: IN> RE:Bright Lilim >Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:15:32 -0000 > > >Beth wanted a cite. > >Online English Hebrew dictionaries are a little hard to come by. > >Bahiyr:- bright, brilliant (of light)[from an unused root to be >bright] > >http://www.biblestudytools.net/Lexicons/Hebrew/heb.cgi?number=0925&ver >sion=kjv > >Adam >-- >Otherwords meaning bright in KJV >http://www.biblestudytools.net/Lexicons/Hebrew/heb.cgi?search=bright&v >ersion=kjv&type=eng&submit=Find > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:09 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) Subject: Re: IN> Re: Something Different In article , CDHughes@scu.edu (Christopher Hughes) wrote: > <<<> Oddly enough, I am. Oh, I'm fiddling with the odd > > house rule or two, but I haven't derailed canon yet. > > Derailing canon is fun. Diverting the tracks so the train crashes into a > cliff is even more fun. >:) > > Seriously, there's a perverted joy I get in twisting canon to suit my > own sick sense of theme and continuity. How many other GMs out there > feel this way? I'm interested in finding the Vanilla-to-Fudge ratio > among IN GMs. I'd say I'm Cornish (a flavour of ice-cream that I don't believe is sold in the USA). I'm very happy to use the appearance of canon, and allow the rules, as visible to the PCs, to be entirely canon - except for taking corp forces out of to-hit rolls. What I like to twist is the motives and worldviews of the NPCs. I always feel that Demons aren't evil enough, and do my best to make up for it, when I can manage the inspiration. - --- John Dallman jgd@cix.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:19:26 -0800 From: edenesque@juno.com Subject: IN> Happy Thanksgiving! Just wishing everyone a happy Thanksgiving! ^_^ ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:13:38 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> RE:Bright Lilim - --- Adam Benedict Canning wrote: > > Beth wanted a cite. > > Online English Hebrew dictionaries are a little hard > to come by. Ain't _that_ the truth. > http://www.biblestudytools.net/Lexicons/Hebrew MOST useful. Here, have a Cookie. :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/13/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 06:21:39 +0000 From: "Jonathan Walton" Subject: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2455 >Let's play Mad Libs -- fill in the blanks with appropriate (or not) nouns: > >Big ______, Fiery ______ Big Grigori, Fiery Ofanite? No, nevermind. That's just my inner frustration at the LACK OF GRIGORI coming out again. Sigh. Maybe next year. Hmm ... if I waste my money on the APG, does that mean I might make it sell out sooner, leading to a 2nd Edition (something that could concievably contain the Grigs)? Probably not, but it's worth a try. Later. Jonathan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2456 ********************************