in_nomine-digest Sunday, December 23 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2492 In this digest: Re: IN> Alternate Rules for Choirs and Bands Re: IN> Alternate Rules for Choirs and Bands IN> LOTR/In Nomine write-up. Warning- Contains spoilers Re: IN> LOTR/In Nomine write-up. Warning- Contains spoilers IN> Latin phrases for your PC's Re: IN> LOTR/In Nomine write-up. Warning- Contains spoilers Re: IN> LOTR/In Nomine write-up. Warning- Contains spoilers IN> The Temple to the God of gods. Fwd: Re: IN> Two Demons Walk Into a Bar... Re: IN> Alternate Rules for Choirs and Bands Re: IN> Alternate Rules for Choirs and Bands Re: IN> Latin phrases for your PC's IN> A disturbing idea... Re: IN> A disturbing idea... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 17:27:32 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Alternate Rules for Choirs and Bands - --- David Edelstein wrote: > Beyond Choirs And Bands This is really quite good. Two questions: 1) A celestial with 2 Melodies/Riffs is subject to both sets of dissonance conditions, right? 2) How would you handle/adapt Kronos' Balseraph of Fate / Yves' Master of Divine Knowledge Attunements? Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/13/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:29:46 -0600 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> Alternate Rules for Choirs and Bands Maurice Lane wrote: > 1) A celestial with 2 Melodies/Riffs is subject to > both sets of dissonance conditions, right? Yes. And multiple Chords/Licks subjects you to all their (reduced) dissonance conditions as well. > 2) How would you handle/adapt Kronos' Balseraph of > Fate / Yves' Master of Divine Knowledge Attunements? Good question. I haven't considered every possible interaction of Songs & attunements under my alternate rules, and I'm sure there are other tricky bits that might come up. Off-hand, I'd say the Balseraph of Fate attunement lets you choose one angelic Choral at the same level as your Balseraph Choral (so if you only have a Lick of Balseraph, you only get a Chord of the angelic Choral). I can't remember what Yves' Master of Divine Knowledge attunement does off-hand, and my In Nomine book is in my new apartment right now (we're in the process of moving). If this rules variant proves popular, I may have to write my own FAQ for it. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 00:08:00 -0500 (EST) From: jamoge@wm.edu Subject: IN> LOTR/In Nomine write-up. Warning- Contains spoilers Caution: Haven't read the series, so I might be off in the spelling a wee-bit. I just got a surge of inspiration (Basically I sit, the muse kicks me in the head, I write, the muse stops) and am following it to it's natural conclusion: Inflicting it on you all. My apologies. * * * * * * V Sauron Mummy of Rapine Corporeal Forces: 0/4 Strength: 10 Agility: 6 Ethereal: 3 Intelligence: 7 Precision: 5 Celestial: 3 Will: 7 Perception: 5 Vessels: none (he's working on it). Songs: Attraction (Ethereal 3/Celestial 3), Charm (Celestial 3), Entropy(Ethereal 2), Projection (Corporeal 4/Ethereal 2), Tongues (Ethereal 2/Celestial 2) (Probably a great many others, but as I don't have Liber Canticorum, I'm going with the IN source book right now.) Discord: Bound/4 Skills: Artistry/5, Dodge/3, Fighting/6, Knowledge (Middle Earth, Mordok)/6, Leadership/6, Languages (Common(?), Mordok)/4, Large Weapon/6, Lying/5, Tactics/6 Special Rites: Kill on enslave one hundred people- 1 essence (no limit to the number of times per day this can be used) Devastate a nation- 2 essence (Ditto) His power was once great. He was a king, dark and unyielding in his fury. He broke great men and great nations. His Fate encompassed many, many others'. Sauron rose to prominence easily in Genubath's Hellsworn ranks, doing whatsoever he wished, whenever he wished. Sauron was a determined and dedicated servitor, and whats more, the Demon Prince found him loyal to the one force that could bend even Sauron himself, Genubath. Thus, when Sauron grew in years, as all mortals do, Genubath searched for the answer, and found it in Saminga's research of the Undead. Selling Saminga the rights to kill a state's people gained Genubath the formula and ritual for the mummification process. Sauron was soon fully welcomed into the Hell's embrace. The Hellsworn's ceremony seemed to be going without a problem and the celestial and ethereal forces were binding correctly, but the inexperienced Genubath miscalculated on the corporeal portion of the ritual. The result could have turned Sauron into a vampire or a zombi, or worse, destroyed his forces and thus gaining Genubath nothing. Genubath, though, was able to quickly bind his servitor's corporeal forces, as well as add two more, to a ring that Sauron had recently crafted. The ring was itself not incredibly special, but the addition of Sauron's personal forces caused it to change to a powerful artifact. The end result was much as Genubath wished, an immensely powerful servitor whom could not challenge the Prince on the Celestial plane, but could further Rapine on Middle Earth for centuries, even millennia to come. This was furthered by Sauron's own move of power, anonymously handing to the most powerful elves, dwarves and humans 19 rings that complimented and obeyed his own. Rapine was a Word that was well on its way towards dominating Middle Earth. And then came the battle that decided it all. Sauron was assured of his victory. Was he not the most powerful of all earthly beings? Was he not the favored of Genubath, Demon Prince of Rapine? Did he not have eternity to cement his rule, added by the power of his ring, the seat of his might? Of course, that's where it all fell apart. One of the heirs of the nine ring-bearers of humanity succeeded where all others failed. He was able to strike with a sword blessed by Uriel, at the one moment when Sauron, too glutted on his imminent victory, wasn't guarding his ring-hand. The knight's sword, despite being shattered by a previous blow, carried the Purity of Uriel, and held enough of an edge that it severed through Sauron's fingers, cutting him off from his ring. With his corporeal forces severed from his being, Sauron was seemingly destroyed, for his vessel soon detonated. When the victorious knight (author's note: why no, I don't remember his name, so yes, I will keep refering to him in this manner) recovered his senses and found himself holding the disentegrating ring-finger of Sauron, complete with ring of power, he realized what he had to do. Led by the elvish king (see above author's note) to the peak of Mt. Doom, the knight nearly destroyed the ring, thus ending any possibility of Sauron's recovery, for as elves knew (I'm going by the assumption that though dwarves just don't care and humans are too stupid to notice, elves know all about the Symphony and War) Sauron was a being of the Undead, and his Corporeal form, not his forces, had been destroyed. It would take the destruction of the ring to accomplish the latter task. The knight almost did it, but in the last moment, he saw the writing of Murdok appear on the ring, and the subtle influence of Sauron, incorporeal but observing from the Marches, began to dwell upon his mind. The knight saw a future of war and conquest, and Sauron ensnared another mortal for Rapine. Withdrawing from Mt. Doom, the knight went on to be betrayed by Sauron, acting through the ring, but through a sequence of events, and the shake-up engendered by Genubath's downfall and Valefor's ascension, 3060 years passed before focus once again was brought on Sauron. The ring by this time had passed to a hobbit by the name of Bilbo Baggins. Not knowing what he possessed, he kept it until he went on a voyage in his last years. This is when he left the ring with his protege, Frodo Baggins. The rest, for those who've read the book or seen the movie, you know. Sorry for the extended write-up. Just saw a lot of potential In Nomine in Middle Earth and Tolkien. Neither Hobbit, nor Dwarf, nor even Elven, Josh Moger (A bit of the Orc on my Father's side though) P.S.: Anyone want to take on writing up a bit on the Ring itself? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 21:19:46 -0800 From: "Bevan Thomas" Subject: Re: IN> LOTR/In Nomine write-up. Warning- Contains spoilers >From: jamoge@wm.edu >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: IN> LOTR/In Nomine write-up. Warning- Contains spoilers >Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 00:08:00 -0500 (EST) > >Sauron >Mummy of Rapine > Actually, Sauron is a fallen Maiar, which are the angels in Middle-Earth. That would make him a demon. Probably a Balseraph (since he tempted the free people into sin and corrupted their power). - -Bevan - ------- "We've always been under siege. The 'Real World' keeps shoving us into corners -- so we've built some worlds of our own. Now whoever's controlling this... wants to take those worlds away. Well, I call that interplanetary war." -T. Campbell, "Fans: the Fandom Menace" _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:36:12 +0100 From: "Donato Ranzato" Subject: IN> Latin phrases for your PC's Here are some Latin phrases that might be suitable for your angel PC's: Malakim/ Seraph of War: Pugnam Speratie Paratie (seek out battle prepared) Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum ( when one wants peace, be prepared for war) Sentire Vis Ego Arma (feel the strength of my weapon) Malakim: Gravis Donum Deus Est (seriousness is a gif of God) Seraph: Audire Perspicere Veritas Est ( to hear is to see the truth) Elohim of Judgement: Semper Paratus Pro Justitia (always prepared for justice) Cura Lucrum Ego Donare (careful I will give my sentence) Mercurian/Cherubim: Vigiabo Pro Vobis (I will wake for you) General: Fortitudo Mea Deus (God is my strength) Cheerio, Donato ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 04:25:20 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> LOTR/In Nomine write-up. Warning- Contains spoilers - --- Bevan Thomas wrote: > > > > >From: jamoge@wm.edu > >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com > >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com > >Subject: IN> LOTR/In Nomine write-up. Warning- > Contains spoilers > >Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 00:08:00 -0500 (EST) > > > >Sauron > >Mummy of Rapine > > > > Actually, Sauron is a fallen Maiar, which are the > angels in Middle-Earth. > That would make him a demon. Probably a Balseraph > (since he tempted the free > people into sin and corrupted their power). Yeah, but it's interesting to see how somebody approaches this stuff when he doesn't have any a priori assumptions. _Most_ interesting. :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/13/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 04:29:13 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> LOTR/In Nomine write-up. Warning- Contains spoilers - --- jamoge@wm.edu wrote: >P.S.: Anyone want to take on writing up a bit on the >Ring itself? Already been done- but you _don't_ want to go down that road. Trust me on this. The flamewar from the last time wasn't pretty... Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/13/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 23:35:18 +1100 From: "james walker" Subject: IN> The Temple to the God of gods. Of all of the Almighty's titles, "God of gods" causes Heaven the most problems. Uriel used it to justify the Purity Crusade - the title implied that the Ethereal 'gods' were required to serve the One True God; while the peace faction uses it as an argument for tolerating the existence of ethereals, as unless some existed to serve Him, the title would be void. Meanwhile, deep in the Far Marches, the Temple to the God of gods stands inviolate. Khalid considers the Temple to fall under the his Word, and protects the Temple. The Temple guards are a strange lot, as most of them are ex-Tsayadim; should a Tsayadim decide to swear allegiance to Khalid, their long experience in The Marches and lack of knowledge of the Corporeal plane makes assignment to the Temple likely. They have strict orders: to destroy anyone who disturbs the peace within the Temple domain, and to only permit legitimate worshippers to enter the Temple. "Legitimate worshippers" are defined as any being who has received worship and who has no motivation to enter the Temple other than the desire to worship the One True God. Should other motivations sully the worshippers intent, the guards will politely insist that the petitioner leave, and not return until their motivations are purer. Few object - the guards may have left the ranks of the Tsayadim, but retain their skills: and reputation for ruthlessness. The worshippers at the Temple are normally ethereal gods who were absorbed into the monotheistic religion as saints, angels or Peri; St. Anne rarely leaves the Temple grounds. As their very nature has been changed by the changes into mortal beliefs, they rarely cause the guards any problems, and often lead worship. The mightiest angel to frequent the Temple is Janus, who will often arrive in a sombre mood, and remain until his fickle nature drives him to leave. Humans are fairly common; the guards deem prayers to saints sufficient justification to allow entry to a dream-shade or Saint. Most of the problems at the Temple are caused by the Habbalah. A surprisingly large number of the Punishers devoutly wish to serve God, and have worshippers: the guards are obliged to allow theses demons to worship here. Further, Habbalah will sometimes arrive directly from Hell; a Habbalite spending essence on their prayers (CPG p10) will sometimes be drawn directly to the Temple - especially with a Divine Intervention. The number of Habbalah who end up seeking Redemption is nearly as large as the number who end up being soul-killed by the guards for disturbing the peace. Not surprisingly, the ethereal pantheons try to ignore the existence of the temple, or dismiss it with flippant comments. However, rumours continually do the rounds...was Isis seen there in her Madonna image, or Odin as Santa Claus? Suggesting these possibilities around the appropriate pantheons tends to trigger a violent response, so determining the truth isn't easy. Cheers, James. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:17:19 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Fwd: Re: IN> Two Demons Walk Into a Bar... >Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 21:00:43 -0600 >Subject: BOUNCE in_nomine-l@lists.io.com: Non-member submission from ["Mog1314" ] [Remember, check www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/lists.html for details on getting on the posters-l, or /listrules.html for reasons why you might have been u n s u b scribed (hint: bounced email)... --Beth] >From: "Mog1314" >Subject: Re: IN> Two Demons Walk Into a Bar... >Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:02:32 -0500 > >> >> "Cute! May I suggest that it's not unknown for >> Alaemon to hand this out ... >snipididoodah > >Although, if two celestials with this discord can still perfectly understand >one-another, might it not actually be seen as a sign of favor of Alaemon? > >Most likely by those already under a heavy delusion *coughabbalahcough* but >useful if two beings are exchanging information of a sensitive nature. > > >Josh Moger > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 08:53:02 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Alternate Rules for Choirs and Bands - --- David Edelstein wrote: > Maurice Lane wrote: > > 1) A celestial with 2 Melodies/Riffs is subject to > > both sets of dissonance conditions, right? > > Yes. And multiple Chords/Licks subjects you to all > their (reduced) > dissonance conditions as well. Thought so. > I can't remember > what Yves' Master of > Divine Knowledge attunement does off-hand, and my In > Nomine book is in > my new apartment right now (we're in the process of > moving). Hah! _I_ bring a copy of the base IN rules along for every trip that lasts longer than 24 hours ... geez, that sounds fanboyish*. Anyway, The Master-level Distinction (my bad for calling it an Attunement) gives access to another Choir's base resonance and dissonance conditions. Now that I think about it, it's easy enough to work around: just give the holder a free Chord that won't adversely affect resonance rolls (if that optional rule is being used). After all, it _is_ a Master level Distinction. Moe *Probably because it is, no? ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/13/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:09:02 -0600 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> Alternate Rules for Choirs and Bands Maurice Lane wrote: > Anyway, The Master-level Distinction (my bad for > calling it an Attunement) gives access to another > Choir's base resonance and dissonance conditions. Now > that I think about it, it's easy enough to work > around: just give the holder a free Chord that won't > adversely affect resonance rolls (if that optional > rule is being used). After all, it _is_ a Master > level Distinction. Hmm. I'd say he gets a free Choral at the same level as his highest existing Choral. Yeah, no penalties to resonance rolls (if using the Stick Method), and it won't prevent him from getting the "pure Choir" bonus on his existing Choral (if using the Carrot Method), but he won't get that bonus on the Choral granted by the Distinction. GM's option as to whether the Distinction also affects his celestial form. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:14:27 -0600 From: Andrew Hackard Subject: Re: IN> Latin phrases for your PC's At 11:36 AM 12/23/01 +0100, Donato Ranzato wrote: >Here are some Latin phrases that might be suitable for your angel PC's: And here are some corrections, so they don't get visited by a Malakite of Errata: >Malakim/ Seraph of War: >Pugnam Speratie Paratie (seek out battle prepared) This is just flat wrong. It should be Pugnam parati quaerete. >Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum ( when one wants peace, be prepared for war) Should be "bello" (dative of reference), but otherwise good. >Sentire Vis Ego Arma (feel the strength of my weapon) Again, wholly off. Senti vim teli mei. >Malakim: >Gravis Donum Deus Est (seriousness is a gif of God) Gravitas donum Dei est. >Seraph: >Audire Perspicere Veritas Est ( to hear is to see the truth) "veritatem," as it's the object of the infinitive "perspicere." >Elohim of Judgement: >Semper Paratus Pro Justitia (always prepared for justice) There's no J is Latin (q.v. "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade"), so make that last word "iustitia." Otherwise, nice. >Cura Lucrum Ego Donare (careful I will give my sentence) "Lucrum" doesn't mean "sentence," it means "wealth." In any case, there's already a verb for "to pass sentence"; this should be Diligenter judicabo. > Mercurian/Cherubim: >Vigiabo Pro Vobis (I will wake for you) Especially for a cherub, that should be "pro te," or more likely simply "tibi," and you left a letter out of the verb (which means "watch," not "wake," but is still quite appropriate here): Tibi vigilabo. >General: >Fortitudo Mea Deus (God is my strength) A Roman would be more likely to use the odd "dative of possession" here: Deus est mihi fortitudo. - -- You're only given a little spark of madness. | hackard@io.com You mustn't lose it. --Robin Williams | ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 19:13:19 -0500 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: IN> A disturbing idea... I'm gonna tweek my Santa's stats to correct the "No more then 6 forces" mistake, as well as add a little more flavor text and some other ideas I had. But for now, here's a very disturbing scenario I came up with on the bus today... Deep in his underground bunker, he could feel the rumbling of the explosions caused by the American bombing right into his bones. Oh, how he cursed the Americans and their high-tech weapons of doom. They had finally come into his adopted homeland and did the unthinkable; they had toppled his Taliban allies and aided the northern alliance in taking over the country. Even now, the remainder of his Al Quaeda forces were fighting a losing battle, and he knew his days were numbered. The only thing Osama Bin Ladin had left was to pray for a miracle, and wonder how he could've so underestimated America's resolve. "Allah... Oh, Infinitly Merciful Allah... How could this be? How could you have taken your favor away from my faithful warriors, and favored the Infidels?" "Allah works in infinite ways, my friend... And I should know." Osama leapt up at the sound of that voice and turned to look at a figure stepping out of the hallway's shadows and into his own inner sanctum. A figure clad in the traditional robes of an Islamic Scholar, with a pair of white, flowing wings serving as a cape. The figure pushed back it's cowl to reveal it's face, which resembled that of a short-beared man, of unprecise, yet unmistakingly arabic origins. Osama instantly recognized his face and fell to his knees again. "Lord Khalid... At last... Praise Allah, you've returned to aid me... " Khalid simply looked down at the terrorist, his face remaining emotionless, his gaze staring deep into the man's heart, seeing his emotional state concerning his current situation: the american invasion, the Taliban's fall from power, the dismantling of his training camps in Afghanistan... ....And now, Khalid noticed, Osama was feeling confusion at the realization that Khlaid had done nothing to aid him since the September 11 bombings. A confusion that was turning into indignation even as he watched. Judging from Osama's current emotional state, Klahid chose his words carefully for the appropriate response: "Yes, you're thinking correctly. I haven't come here to aid you, but to witness your inevitable destruction." Osama rose from his kneeling position and yelled at the angel: "WHY!? Have I not done as you willed me to do? Have I not forged an army of retribution against the faithless Americans? Have I not fought hard to avenge the suffering of our people? And now you abandon us!?" Khalid shook his head and simply walked around Osama, looking about the sanctuary chamber as he spoke. "Yes, yes you have. You've even surpassed my expectations last September, Osama. I can only assume Hell's infiltration into the ranks of Al Quaeda has had positive effects, for once..." Osama was shocked by that comment. The forces of Iblis, infiltrating his loyal forces? The mere thought was unbelivable. But the Archangel continued before he could respond: "...But overall, the aftershocks of September 11 have had more positive effects then negative ones. Especially in America." He turned to look at the Terrorist leader and smiled. "It's Ironic, really... in attempting to shatter the spirit and resolve of America, the attacks have had for effect to reunify a divided nation, dragging them out of self-destructive apathy, restoring their faith, not only in God and Heaven, but also the beliefs of their forefathers and the ideals of their nation." Khalid stepped closer, looking the now stunned man in the face, and continued: "It's regrettable that so many innocent people had to die, but their sacrifice has not been in vein. America is now more open to God's forces then ever, as men and women all over the land have turned ever more to their priests, rabbis and mullahs for guidance and comfort." Osama finally shook himself from his shock and frowned. "How... How can you celebrate for our enemies!? How can you rejoice at the thought that those Infidels turn from Islam so?" Khalid's eyes suddenly burned a bright white, causing the terrorist to stagger back as the Elohite's voice became more pronounced... "I am not the Archangel of Islam, Bin Ladin, although I favor that path most of all. I am the Archangel of Faith... of Faith in God, and as such is my duty to ensure that all People of the Book are faithful, be they of Abraham's tribes, Christ's disciples, or followers of Muhammed's teachings. And, although America's are not Heavenly inspired in and of themselves, they do promote the ways of Heaven's teachings through the freedoms they promote..." Osama simply fell to his knees in disbelief. "But... but... What of Afghanistan? What of the land of the Faithful? What is to become of us?" Khalid looked at him and smiled again, this time with the smile of a teacher reassuring a pupil. "The People of Afghanistan are celebrating their newfound freedom from the Taliban, Osama. The Taliban were tyrants who oppressed their nation and harmed anyone not upholding their extremist views. Sadly, they were a necessary evil, for this region to begin welcoming a more liberal and open regime..." "You see, attacking America has caused it's people to truly awaken to the plight of the people here in the Middle East. They have begun learning about Islam and it's followers, if only to understand the truth of Muhammed's teachings and of the people of the Arab world. And with their renewed commitment to ending tyranny and suffering, America is certain to influence positive changes in the Middle East. All thanks to you..." Osama blinked. "You... You mean you used me? ...Everything I have done, it was for nothing?" Khalid shook his head, looking a bit sad. "No, not for nothing... Although I must confessed, I did mislead you as to the true goals of your organisation's actions. But rest assured, you have indeed served Allah well..." Osama swallowed and looked up, a little hopeful. "Then... I have earned my place in Heaven? I have fulfilled my Destiny?" Khalid simply nodded. "Yes... As I've learned from the angels of Destiny, Your Dark Fate was to plunge the earth into World War three, which would've spread ruination throughout the Middle East as it raged. As you know, however, your Destiny was to spark the end of the misery of the people of Islam... And I suspect that things will will change for the better for Islam in the decades to come..." Khalid then sighed and looked down at Osama "...But I'm afraid I have yet another sacrifice to ask of you, my friend..." Osama's hopes suddenly fell. "What? What more do you want me to give?" Khalid looked him in the eyes. "Heaven is not only for the followers of Islam, Osama. It is for all those who have achieved the Destiny Allah intended for them. But nevertheless, there are some appearances that need to be maintained... And having a Terrorist Leader in heaven would cause much controversy..." Osama now looked fearful of what was next to come, as Khalid took a large dagger from his robe, and grabbed him by the neck, holding him tightly as he held up the blade. "This Dagger was specially made to cleave the human soul apart, scattering it's forces throughout the Symphony, bringing about final Soul Death... I'm sorry, Osama, but this is for the greater good..." And before Osama could break away, Khalid stabbed him in the chest repeatedly. The man felt his soul being torn to shreds with each new thrust of the dagger, falling to his knees as the Archangel continued. As his Forces abandonned him, his last thoughts were for his wife and children, begging Allah to watch over them, to his followers, praising them for their loyalty even in defeat, to the people whom he had killed, begging their forgivness for his actions, and finally to Allah, committing what was left of his soul to the one above... Khalid slowly rose from the soulless corpse, holding it's last force in his free hand, then looking up and hearing another rumbling. "That next bombardment should be enough to pierce through the cavern walls and incinerate your corpse, Osama... But fear not, you have not died in vain." He released the Force into the symphony, then returned the dagger to his cloak and returned to Heaven as the cavern complex was destroyed, erasing every last trace of Khalid's presence there... Just a disturbing thought of mine... And you wondered why Khalid was an Elohite... - -Exit the LoneWolf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 19:47:00 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> A disturbing idea... From: "Rolland Therrien" > > Just a disturbing thought of mine... And you wondered why Khalid was an > Elohite... It makes enough sense to be very disturbing. Nice work. ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2492 ********************************