in_nomine-digest Friday, March 8 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2565 In this digest: Re: IN> Singing!! Re: IN> Demon of Conspiracy Theories Re: IN> Demon of Conspiracy Theories IN> Disco INferno Re: IN> Disco INferno IN> Hell is for children? Re: IN> Hell is for children? Re: IN> Demon of Conspiracy Theories Re: IN> Singing!! IN> It's surprising the things you find digging around Re: IN> Disco INferno Re: IN> Hell is for children? IN> Demon of Hot Sauce Re: IN> Demon of Hot Sauce Re: IN> Demon of Hot Sauce Re: IN> Demon of Hot Sauce Re: IN> Demon of Hot Sauce Re: IN> Demon of Hot Sauce Re: IN> Demon of Hot Sauce Re: IN> Demon of Hot Sauce Re: IN> Demon of Hot Sauce Re: IN> It's surprising the things you find digging around Re: IN> It's surprising the things you find digging around IN> [IRON REV] The House By The Sea Re: IN> Demon of Hot Sauce IN> Marc & Dominic? Re: IN> [IRON REV] The House By The Sea ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 05:48:40 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Singing!! - --- Eric Bertish wrote: > No. An exquisitely cruel thing to do to one's players is > to set "Stayin' > Alive" on infinite repeat while the party is under the > effects of a Crown of Joy. >:) But if you're running "Boogie Woogie Dancing Shoes," it's OK! ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "The other beattitude that's not in the book is this: 'Blessed are those who are pleasant to live with.'" - -- Rev. Claudette Copeland __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 05:52:56 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Conspiracy Theories - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > Reivtip > Impudite Baron of the Vault > Demon of Conspiracy Theories Heh. I like it. And I even get the pun in the name. ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "The other beattitude that's not in the book is this: 'Blessed are those who are pleasant to live with.'" - -- Rev. Claudette Copeland __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 09:43:29 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Conspiracy Theories *I* see why he isn't a balseraph. A balseraph would have to *believe* each conspiracy theory while it was selling it to someone. Difficult if your basic job is to spread confusion. Balseraphs have to deceive by catching you up in their own delusion -- by deceiving themselves first -- or by evasion and half-truth and ambiguity. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:08:09 -0500 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: IN> Disco INferno > But if you're running "Boogie Woogie Dancing Shoes," it's OK! I've threatened my players with that adventure, and they eep appropriately. >:) I still think that'd make a great IN LARP game, if all involved could withstand the continual exposure to disco without going homicidally insane. - -- Casca "Many people hear voices when no-one is there. Some of them are called mad and are shut up in rooms where they stare at the walls all day. Others are called writers and they do pretty much the same thing." --Margaret Chittenden, writer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 10:31:00 -0500 From: "Robb Kidd" Subject: Re: IN> Disco INferno Eric Bertish wrote: > I still think that'd make a great IN LARP game, if all involved could > withstand the continual exposure to disco without going homicidally insane. Disco, polyester and gold medallions -- the Three Gifts for the Coming AntiChrist. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:23:36 -0500 From: "Thomas Davidson" Subject: IN> Hell is for children? On the WitchCraft RPG list that I'm on (one of many RPG lists I'm a member of), a member posted the URL to an article that I thought would interest the members of this group. Perhaps it would also jog some waning creative juices. http://www.miaminewtimes.com/issues/1997-06-05/feature.html/page1.html The header reads: "Captured on South Beach, Satan later escaped. His demons and the horrible Bloody Mary are now killing people. God has fled. Avenging angels hide out in the Everglades. And other tales from children in Dade's homeless shelters." Are these stories the Truth, or are they some hideous plot hatched by our Demon Prince of Secrets? - ------- Thomas Davidson TDavidson@systec.com Behold the power of cheese.... :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:40:06 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Hell is for children? Way ahead of you, Thomas. Check the archives for the IN write-ups of Bloody Mary and the Blue Lady. ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "The other beattitude that's not in the book is this: 'Blessed are those who are pleasant to live with.'" - -- Rev. Claudette Copeland __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:22:27 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Conspiracy Theories From: "Maurice Lane" > > Reivtip > Impudite Baron of the Vault > Demon of Conspiracy Theories He's got to hate the way that Dallas has been clearing his followers out of Dealy Plaza over the last few years... Nice take on the Word, Moe. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:07:57 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Singing!! From: "Michael Walton" > --- Eric Bertish wrote: > > No. An exquisitely cruel thing to do to one's players is > > to set "Stayin' > > Alive" on infinite repeat while the party is under the > > effects of a Crown of Joy. >:) > > But if you're running "Boogie Woogie Dancing Shoes," it's OK! Located at http://www.allamagoosa.org/InNomine/IronRev/IR2.htm he said, in a blatant grab for page hits. ;:;) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:07:05 -0500 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: IN> It's surprising the things you find digging around As it's been slow on the list of late, I've been perusing the list archives. Way, way, *way* in the back -- I'm talking Digest 2, Volume 1 -- I found a HIGHLY interesting tidbit written by Derek himself. I quote [annotations by me]: - ------------- Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:33:16 -0600 From: dpearcy@io.com (Derek Patton Pearcy) Subject: Re: What happen to Khalid? [snip] Almost 1500 years ago, Gabriel, Archangel of Fire, narrated the Koran to Mohammed and started Islam. Islam became an incredible threat to Christianity. Uriel, as the Archangel of Purity and that era's protector of Christianity, convinced Dominic that Gabriel's actions were heretical -- even though she'd been ordered to do so by Yves, the inscrutible Archangel of Destiny -- and tried to have her exiled from Heaven. Khalid (along with others, most notably Michael, Archangel of War) grew mistrustful of Yves, even though Yves moved with political machinations to stop Dominic's persecution of Gabriel. Gabriel left Heaven of her own accord, building a new mosque in the caldera of a volcano which sits on the edge between the ethereal landscapes of Blandine, Archangel of Dreams, and the furthermost edge of Heaven. It would be impossible for him to mass Heaven's armies to attack the volcano on their own perimeter; the Seraphim Council would not have allowed it. Uriel knew he would have to raze Blandine's end of the Marches as an excuse to get at Gabriel. At this time, both Laurence and Khalid were powerful angels of Purity in the service of Uriel. Uriel waged war on the Earth's creatures of myth, knowing the dragons to be a favorite of Gabriel, and eventually took the battle to the Marches -- the ethereal realm of dreams which lays between the celestial realms of Heaven and Hell, and the Earth -- and attacked the remaining creatures of myth while getting a head start on taking out the pagan gods. Many hid in the Far Marches, or the dark side of the ethereal realm (ruled by Beleth, Demon Princess of Nightmares); many were slain by the agents of Uriel. In a move that surprised everyone, Uriel was recalled to Paradise by God for his pains, leaving a power vacuum in the celestial hierarchy. Khalid was furious when Laurence took Uriel's place as leader of Heaven's troops and protector of Christianity, thinking himself to be a more experienced choice. Khalid, not only to snub his nose at Laurence but to show support for Gabriel, took up stewardship of Islam and became Archangel of Faith. He'll be included in the supplement introducing Islam, but I don't know when that will be. He may show up in an issue of Pyramid before then. He's a bad-ass and I'd like to see him in people's games; we just didn't seem to have the room to do justice to Islam and all the issues Khalid has to grapple with in just two pages. [snip] - ------------------ Casts the Purity Crusade in a whole new light, eh? - -- Casca "Many people hear voices when no-one is there. Some of them are called mad and are shut up in rooms where they stare at the walls all day. Others are called writers and they do pretty much the same thing." --Margaret Chittenden, writer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:19:26 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Disco INferno From: "Eric Bertish" > > I still think that'd make a great IN LARP game, if all involved could > withstand the continual exposure to disco without going homicidally insane. That's not the way (uh huh, uh huh,) they like it (uh huh, uh huh)? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:31:41 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Hell is for children? From: "Thomas Davidson" > > Are these stories the Truth, or are they some hideous plot hatched by our > Demon Prince of Secrets? Good questions - that article has all kinds of spooky goodness that could be applied to the game. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:32:41 -0800 From: "Marcus Evenstar" Subject: IN> Demon of Hot Sauce HELP! I could swear that this loser was in one of my IN books but a quick perusal can't find him. I need a demonic informant for my IN Buffy convention game and he'd be a great punching bag. Where is he? Marcus "Watcher" Evenstar ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 18:55:30 -0500 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Hot Sauce > Where is he? Night Music, Saminga writeup. - -- Casca "Many people hear voices when no-one is there. Some of them are called mad and are shut up in rooms where they stare at the walls all day. Others are called writers and they do pretty much the same thing." --Margaret Chittenden, writer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:57:24 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Hot Sauce From: "Marcus Evenstar" > > I could swear that this loser was in one of my IN books but a quick > perusal can't find him. I need a demonic informant for my IN Buffy > convention game and he'd be a great punching bag. I think he's in the Revelations Cycle book with Haagenti's expanded writeup. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 01:25:55 +0000 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Hot Sauce Hot sauce is considered evil? Janet Anderson _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 20:34:25 -0500 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Hot Sauce > Hot sauce is considered evil? At least Amanda thinks the stuff I make to be evil. Mix some habeneros and tomatoes and get a bad reputation... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 01:35:15 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Hot Sauce >From: "Janet Anderson" >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Hot Sauce >Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 01:25:55 +0000 >Hot sauce is considered evil? It's just as evil as Technology is... *eg* - -- Chuckg _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 01:37:11 +0000 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Hot Sauce I like evil hot sauce. (If warned in advance.) Janet Anderson _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 21:00:09 -0500 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Hot Sauce At 01:25 AM 3/8/02 +0000, you wrote: >Hot sauce is considered evil? No, just selfish. ;) ObIN: Really Hot Sauce A bottle of everyday hot sauce with a hand-stamped label proclaiming it to be a private Jamaican blend. It's not really very spicy at all, actually. It does mimic the effects of really hot foods, though: after eating something tainted with the Really Hot Sauce, everything else tastes blander for an hour or so; if the use of the sauce continues on a fairly consistent basis (say, at least once a week for a month), the user will start losing their sense of taste. In fact, what the the Really Hot Sauce is doing is inflicting a faux Need for itself. (It's perfectly real for celestials, but it works on non-celestials too.) Every four uses of the Really Hot Sauce inflicts a level of this Discord, up to 6 levels; each level of the Need not only has its usual effect on Essence collection, but reduces the victim's Perception by 1 for the purposes of tasting and smelling. There's one additional effect: if a Lilim is carrying a bottle of Really Hot Sauce, when she resonates she will detect not only the normal needs but a level 2 need for Really Hot Sauce. - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 20:03:27 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Hot Sauce From: "Janet Anderson" > Hot sauce is considered evil? Ever since people started using it to kill Jordi's Kyriotates, anyway. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 21:25:21 -0600 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> It's surprising the things you find digging around Eric Bertish wrote: > Casts the Purity Crusade in a whole new light, eh? Old news. This is of course an earlier version of Khalid, and not terribly consistent with canonical history established since then. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 22:26:27 -0500 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> It's surprising the things you find digging around > Old news. This is of course an earlier version of Khalid, and not > terribly consistent with canonical history established since then. I was thinking less of Khalid and more of Uriel's ulterior motive for the Purity Crusade being the destruction of Gabriel. - -- Casca "Many people hear voices when no-one is there. Some of them are called mad and are shut up in rooms where they stare at the walls all day. Others are called writers and they do pretty much the same thing." --Margaret Chittenden, writer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 22:42:52 -0500 From: EDG Subject: IN> [IRON REV] The House By The Sea Iron Rev March Submission by EDG (6k) In a small house by the sea, on the northern coast of Greenland, lives an old, old man and his granddaughter. Their names are Eikki and Gerda. They live in relative comfort; although the floor is stone and the roof is thatch, the fire warms them and the weather never gets too harsh for the pair to handle. Most of what they need, they can find in the frozen forest, the tundra, and the ocean; when they cannot, they head to the market in the village some two leagues away. The villagers know them by name: from the homeless man who moves from doorstep to doorstep each night to the highest town official, the pair are Eikki and Gerda. However, all of that has now been called into question. By chance, a Friend of Man going by the name of Jakob DuPont stopped by this particular village in northern Greenland to pay a visit to a friend when he encountered Eikki and Gerda. On a whim, he used his resonance on the two - and discovered that he could not. Much as if he had tried to use his resonance on a Superior. This intrigued the curious Mercurian, who began doing some historical research in Yves's Library, and discovered that, in fact, Eikki and Gerda had been coming around the village much longer than they had a right to - not to mention more than the thirteen years which Gerda claimed as her age. However, it was not until he discovered reference in a lost journal of Leif Eriksson to a pair living on the northern coast of Greenland by the names of Eirik and Garthf that he began to suspect that something was seriously awry. At this point, he called his Superior, Laurence, who began questioning the other Archangels about whether they had Roles as an elderly gentleman and his granddaughter on the northern coast of Greenland. It bothered Laurence slightly to discover that none did - and Dominic was present to verify that the answers were true. Now, technically there is meant to be no collaboration between Heaven and Hell; such a thing would be paramount to treason. However, word has begun to circulate around the Fallen Realms of this household out of time, and the Princes are now beginning to get curious. Various rumors are flying around Heaven and Hell as to what these two might represent: - - Powerful Ethereals hiding out in plain sight (along the lines of Norse gods or the like); - - Princely roles for rest and relaxation; - - A very clever Luciferian illusion; - - Lost Superiors (the prime theory here is Oannes and Vephar); or, - - A very strange coincidence. Within a week of Jakob's revelation to Laurence, at least than five investigation teams have descended on northern Greenland. While Heaven has managed to put together a cohesive unit comprising servitors from several salient Archangels, Hell has forwarded no fewer than three teams: - - Beleth, Kronos and Asmodeus have teamed up; the joint venture will investigate both in the corporeal and in the Marches; - - Nybbas, on his own, is sending a team of investigative reporters to get the scoop on this eternal villa; - - and Baal has agreed to assist Saminga in figuring out why these people aren't *dying*. (Baal's part of the team is doing a little extra; Baal has convinced himself that these two are Odin and a young Valkyrie, and wants to try to recruit them.) In addition, several other demonic teams - possibly independent, possibly not - are scouting the area. Unfortunately for everybody, Kronos - secretly or not - has his finger in every pie, and is manipulating each Infernal team so that they'll come to the wrong conclusions. (It was his suggestion that led Baal to believe what he does about the pair.) This leaves the fifth investigator. Rumor has made its way (likely via Beleth's minions) into the Marches as well, and this has drawn at least one Norse god out of the woodwork - Hermod. Having accumulated Essence without spending much at all for centuries upon centuries has left Hermod with a fairly hefty power base, and his Role as Dain Kolinkar, a Scandinavian explorer, is nearly unbreakable. Hermod is on a reconaissance mission: if these are, in fact, Ethereals from the Norse pantheon, then there is quite a bit of hope for the rest of his lost aesir. Unfortunately for each of the teams closing in on this seaside homestead, none of the explanations above are correct. Eikki and Gerda (once Eirik and Garthf) are mere humans - although Eikki has a seventh Force and Gerda a sixth. Around 400 AD these two - who are honestly grandfather and granddaughter - encountered a hooded figure wandering the wastes who offered them a deal: he required a cloak, woven of the finest sheep's wool and strands of gold. In return, said the hooded man, for every day that you work on this, I will grant you a day longer to live. When the cloak is finished, I will know, and I will not come to you until that day. As Eirik was a fine weaver but growing older and closer to death, he accepted. The man then drew back his hood to reveal a bald head with a pair of short, sharp horns jutting from his brow, a face with bright white eyes that Eirik had only seen before on the sightless. To have made a deal with an unknown stranger was foolish, he told them, and continued to say that on the day that Eirik and Garthf died, he would have their spirits in Hel. Eirik protested, but the man simply laughed and vanished in a puff of smoke, leaving behind the materials for the cloak and an enchanted loom. Since that day, Eikki has worked every day save two on the cloak, but every night, he unweaves what he has woven that day. The cloak is thus permanently unfinished, and the bald, sightless man cannot collect on his deal. Kronos is exceptionally unhappy about being denied his two souls, but has forbidden himself from interceding. Now that the two have been discovered, however, he has been free to manipulate events. His goal is for Baal's team to arrive and recruit the two; Kronos knows that if he can get them into battle, Eikki and Gerda will die, and he can reap the reward. In addition, the loom is actually fairly valuable - it subtracts one day from the age of the user every day that it is used for at least five minutes. The cloak is also useful; made of the materials given to Eirik, and upon the enchanted loom, the cloak will be a relic, named Bifrost, which allows the wearer to traverse the boundary between the celestial and corporeal realms soundlessly. The loss of the loom is not particularly troubling to Kronos; although it is not unique, it is also not particularly powerful on its own. The loss of the cloak is more pressing, as it would be invaluable to any Superior coming across it. But the loss of two souls is a personal affront to Kronos. It has not yet occurred to him that Eikki and Gerda may have also met their destiny over 1600 years... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 00:39:15 -0800 From: "Marcus Evenstar" Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Hot Sauce > Where is he? Thanks to Casca, I found the luckless Avery, hiding in Night Music (p. 25). He's now working in a diner near the Hellmouth. He's doing quite well since Fatal Indigestion is considered benevolent compared to other forms of death in Sunnydale. Pity about the wimpy vessel that he inherited after that last bit of excessive disturbance . . . Marcus "Chili Cook-off Massacre" Evenstar ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 10:55:36 +0000 From: "cassandra benner" Subject: IN> Marc & Dominic? Does Dominic have a grudge against some of Marcs methods? Taken from another (occult) site. WASHINGTON, DC--Calling the theological giant's stranglehold on the religion industry "blatantly anti-competitive," a U.S. district judge ruled Monday that God is in violation of anti-monopoly laws and ordered Him to be broken up into several less powerful deities. "The evidence introduced in this trial has convinced me that the deity known as God has willfully and actively thwarted competition from other deities and demigods, promoting His worship with such unfair scare tactics as threatening non-believers with eternal damnation," wrote District Judge Charles Elliot Schofield in his decision. "In the process, He has carved out for Himself an illegal monotheopoly." The suit, brought against God by the Justice Department on behalf of a coalition of "lesser deities" and polytheistic mortals, alleged that He violated antitrust laws by claiming in the Holy Bible that He was the sole creator of the universe, and by strictly prohibiting the worship of what He termed "false idols." "God clearly commands that there shall be no other gods before Him, and He frequently employs the phrase 'I AM the Lord' to intimidate potential deserters," prosecuting attorney Geoffrey Albert said. "God uses other questionable strongarm tactics to secure and maintain humanity's devotion, demanding, among other things, that people sanctify their firstborn to Him and obtain circumcisions as a show of faith. There have also been documented examples of Him smiting those caught worshipping graven images." Attorneys for God did not deny such charges. They did, however, note that God offers followers "unbeatable incentives" in return for their loyalty, including eternal salvation, protection from harm, and "fruitfulness." "God was the first to approach the Jewish people with a 'covenant' contract that guaranteed they would be the most favored in His eyes, and He handed down standards of morality, cleanliness, and personal conduct that exceeded anything else practiced at the time," lead defense attorney Patrick Childers said. "He readily admits to being a 'jealous' God, not because He is threatened by the prospect of competition from other gods, but because He is utterly convinced of the righteousness of His cause and that He is the best choice for mortals. Many of these so-called gods could care less if somebody bears false witness or covets thy neighbor's wife. Our client, on the other hand, is truly a 'People's God.'" In the end, however, God was unable to convince Schofield that He did not deliberately create a marketplace hostile to rival deities. God's attorneys attempted to convince the judge of His openness to rivals, pointing to His longtime participation in the "Holy Trinity," but the effort failed when Schofield determined that Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost are "more God subsidiaries than competitors." To comply with federal antitrust statutes, God will be required to divide Himself into a pantheon of specialized gods, each representing a force of nature or a specific human custom, occupation, or state of mind. "There will most likely be a sun god, a moon god, sea god, and rain god," said religion-industry watcher Catherine Bailey. "Then there will be some second-tier deities, like a god of wine, a goddess of the harvest, and perhaps a few who symbolize human love and/or blacksmithing." Leading theologians are applauding the God breakup, saying that it will usher in a new era of greater worshipping options, increased efficiency, and more personalized service. "God's prayer-response system has been plagued by massive, chronic backlogs, and many prayers have gone unanswered in the process," said Gene Suozzi, a Phoenix-area Wiccan. "With polytheism, you pray to the deity specifically devoted to your concern. If you wish to have children, you pray to the fertility goddess. If you want to do well on an exam, you pray to the god of wisdom, and so on. This decentralization will result in more individualized service and swifter response times." Other religious experts are not so confident that the breakup is for the best, pointing to the chaotic nature of polytheistic worship and noting that multiple gods demand an elaborate regimen of devotion that today's average worshipper may find arduous and inconvenient. "If people want a world in which they must lay burnt offerings before an earthenware household god to ensure that their car will start on a cold winter morning, I suppose they can have it," said Father Thomas Reinholdt, theology professor at Chicago's Loyola University. "What's more, lesser deities are infamous for their mercurial nature. They often meddle directly in diplomatic affairs, abduct comely young mortal women for their concubines, and are not above demanding an infant or two for sacrifice. Monotheism, for all its faults, at least means convenience, stability, and a consistent moral code." One deity who is welcoming the verdict is the ancient Greek god Zeus, who described himself as "jubilant" and "absolutely vindicated." "For thousands of years, I've been screaming that this third-rate sky deity ripped me off wholesale," said Zeus, speaking from his Mt. Olympus residence. "Every good idea He ever had He took from me: Who first created men in his own image? Who punished mankind for its sins? Who lived eternally up in the clouds? And the whole fearsome, patriarchal, white-beard, thunderbolt thing? I was doing that eons before this two-bit hustler started horning in on the action." Lawyers for God say they plan to appeal Schofield's ruling and are prepared to go all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary. "This decision is a crushing blow to God worshippers everywhere, and we refuse to submit to a breakup until every possible avenue of argument is pursued," Childers said. "I have every confidence that God will ultimately win, as He and His lawyers are all-powerful." Cas *Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be Evil.* In Nomine @ http://www.angelfire.com/goth/psyber/i-n.html In Nomine yahoo @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/inveritas ADnD forum @ http://www.drunkendwarfinn.co.uk ADnD stuff @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ADandD_Stuff _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 06:01:18 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> [IRON REV] The House By The Sea Good stuff. Very much in keeping with Norse myth. ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "The other beattitude that's not in the book is this: 'Blessed are those who are pleasant to live with.'" - -- Rev. Claudette Copeland __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2565 ********************************