in_nomine-digest Monday, March 11 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2567 In this digest: IN> This maps frighteningly well (Crossposted to Pyramid) Re: IN> Demon of Conspiracy Theories Re: IN> Demon of Conspiracy Theories Re: IN> This maps frighteningly well (Crossposted to Pyramid) Re: IN> Demon of Conspiracy Theories Re: IN> This maps frighteningly well (Crossposted to Pyramid) Re: IN> This maps frighteningly well (Crossposted to Pyramid) Re: IN> This maps frighteningly well (Crossposted to Pyramid) Re: IN> This maps frighteningly well (Crossposted to Pyramid) IN> New Lustie. Well, sorta. Re: IN> This maps frighteningly well (Crossposted to Pyramid) Re: IN> Demon of Conspiracy Theories Re: IN> New Lustie. Well, sorta. Re: IN> New Lustie. Well, sorta. Re: IN> [IRON REV] The House By The Sea Re: IN> This maps frighteningly well (Crossposted to Pyramid) Re: IN> New Lustie. Well, sorta. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 19:49:36 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> This maps frighteningly well (Crossposted to Pyramid) http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine/stories/Game.htm ...at least, I THINK that it maps frighteningly well. I had fun writing this: hope you all have equal amounts of fun reading it. :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 02/24/02(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 20:21:31 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Conspiracy Theories - --- "Steven E. Ehrbar" wrote: > Timothy Groth wrote: > > A role as a writer working out of Chicago who has > a weekly column in a > > game company's magazine presenting lunatic > theories as mere > > entertaining fictions. > > After all, as long as you're coming up with the > theories to generate > Essence, you might as well sell them, too . . . > Yeah, but I LIKE Ken Hite - and I /don't/ like this guy. I've decided to write up some demons that I wouldn't like, you see*. The idea of a Role's not a bad one, though (or a servant). Thanks... :) Moe *_Not_ an oxymoron: I've written up demons that I wouldn't mind hoisting a beer or two with (Frederick's a good example). ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 02/24/02(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! 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For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 00:08:39 -0500 From: Eric Eves Subject: Re: IN> This maps frighteningly well (Crossposted to Pyramid) Maurice Lane wrote: > > http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine/stories/Game.htm > > ...at least, I THINK that it maps frighteningly well. > I had fun writing this: hope you all have equal > amounts of fun reading it. :) Frighteningly well indeed. "He's gotten that way because - right. He's gotten that way because he's decided to rebel because of the way that humanity seems to have been supplanted the angels in God's eyes, and because nobody will listen to his complaints about it because SOMEBODY blew up the Eden Experiment, so he got together in secret and got a lot of angels to agree with him, and now they're going to fight Heaven and prove that God was wrong. Happy? (pause) Yuri: You just made that up." Hilarious! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 02:17:39 -0500 From: "Steven E. Ehrbar" Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Conspiracy Theories Maurice Lane wrote: >--- "Steven E. Ehrbar" >wrote: > >>After all, as long as you're coming up with the >>theories to generate Essence, you might as well sell them, too . . . >> > >Yeah, but I LIKE Ken Hite - and I /don't/ like this >guy. > No contradicition. Sure, you don't like this guy as and abstract demon you've written, but he's an Impudite who used his resonance to Charm you, so you like him in his Role ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:03:03 +0000 From: "R L" Subject: Re: IN> This maps frighteningly well (Crossposted to Pyramid) >...at least, I THINK that it maps frighteningly well. >I had fun writing this: hope you all have equal >amounts of fun reading it. :) > >Moe Ok... Supposing this is from a real game-session.. at least MY group of players are not THAT bad... How on earth did you get the idea of giving them that insane powerlevel??? In my campaigns NOONE gets to kick Lucifers ass! But it was a fun read...I'll grant you that much... ;) Ron _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:04:31 -0600 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> This maps frighteningly well (Crossposted to Pyramid) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurice Lane" To: "IN List" Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 9:49 PM Subject: IN> This maps frighteningly well (Crossposted to Pyramid) > http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine/stories/Game.htm > > ...at least, I THINK that it maps frighteningly well. > I had fun writing this: hope you all have equal > amounts of fun reading it. :) Good Lord, Moe. At least when my bunch of players met Lucifer, they didn't kick his ass *themselves*. (It involved a prophecy, a lot of work on the player's part against Lucifer's ego leading to him leaving himself a tiny bit vulnerable, and successful invocations of Michael and Yves.) - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:48:58 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Unni_Sol=E5s?= Subject: Re: IN> This maps frighteningly well (Crossposted to Pyramid) On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, Maurice Lane wrote: > ...at least, I THINK that it maps frighteningly well. > I had fun writing this: hope you all have equal > amounts of fun reading it. :) > > Moe You are a sick, sick puppy! This is worse than the campaign I'm in where we ran over Jesus and are now trying to Save/Redeem the Anti-Christ... I need a hernia belt if I'm going to read any more of your stuff...:) __ "Pain! Lots of pain!" Unni ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 11:27:07 -0500 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: Re: IN> This maps frighteningly well (Crossposted to Pyramid) For those folks that were pointing out how they would never give their players that much power. ("How on earth did you get the idea of giving them that insane powerlevel???" and "At least when my bunch of players met Lucifer, they didn't kick his ass *themselves*") : This was only a parody. If this had been an actual game of his, more wierdness would have been involved. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:27:51 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> New Lustie. Well, sorta. Next up on my "write up more demons for the website" quest. I think that I've covered most of the major objections on this one, but you make the call! :) Moe Tahariel Habbalite of Lust Angel of S u b limation Corporeal Forces: 3 Strength: 6 Agility: 6 Ethereal Forces: 4 Intelligence: 8 Precision: 8 Celestial Forces: 6 Will: 12 Perception: 12 Word-Forces: 6 Skills: Detect Lies/2, Dodge/5, Emote/5, Fighting/2, Knowledge (Erotica/6, Psychology/4), Move Silently/3, Ranged Weapon (pistol/2), Small Weapons (Knife/5, Whip/6) Songs: Attraction (Ethereal/2), Empathy (All/1), Form (Celestial/3), Hysteria/6, Nightmares (All/3), Opening (Celestial/2), Revulsion (Ethereal2), Self (Ethereal/2), Sensation (Ethereal/3), Shields (Corporeal/2), Sleep (Corporeal/1), Tongues (Ethereal/2) Attunements: Habbalite of Lust, Angel of S u b limation Angel of S u b limation: With a Will roll Tahariel may effectively turn Lust into some other emotion. The Lust doesn't actually disappear, of course: it just gets expressed differently. Those with the Lustful Discord/Disadvantage will have it turned into some other Celestial Discord/Disadvantage of the same level (chosen by Tahariel): those without must make a Will Roll at -1 to avoid acting towards sexual stimuli in a manner chosen by the Habbalite. The condition lasts for 24 hours: if Tahariel chooses to reinforce the condition, the target must also roll once per day against unmodified Will. If the target ever rolls seven straight daily failures in a row, the condition is permanent. Note that Tahariel also uses this ability on himself: indeed, he must... Rites: Burn a pile of salacious materials. Discord: Lustful/6 The dichotomy between what Habbalah think that they are doing, and what they actually are doing is rarely in starker contrast than in Tahariel's case. This particular Habbalite is firmly convinced that his God-given task is to destroy concupiscence in mortals - - or, failing that, to suppress it. Sex is disgusting, you see: physically, morally and spiritually disgusting. It defiles everything it touches, and it touches everything in human society. There's sexual imagery everywhere, both overt and covert (Tahariel is perceptive enough to see the disguised sexual messages lurking in the most unlikely of places, like trees and clouds). It keeps slipping its way into human souls and minds, making them weak and despicable. Yes, humans would be just filthy animals anyway, constantly obsessing over filthy animal things, but it's the job of angels to keep them from going too far. Angels like Tahariel. He finds those individuals ruled by their depravities (and there's never, ever a shortage of them), and convinces them to find a healthier method of emotional release. Well, healthier from the Habbalite's point of view: the talking monkeys invariably end up exhibiting behavior patterns that the deluded and sentimental might find distasteful. There are more than a few serial killers and fanatical inquisitors (of various types) out there that got their start from a meeting with Tahariel, but at least they're not fornicating any more. Nothing could be worse than fornication. That's what he thinks he is. Tahariel actually is one of Andrealphus' experiments. The Beautiful Prince has always been fascinated with the ability of individual humans to use Lust to power obsessions other than the pleasures of the flesh. Andrealphus doesn't much see the point of not using Lust for the purpose for which it was intended, but that's not the same thing as denying that the condition cannot happen. Tahariel was created to examine the phenomenon. As an experiment, Tahariel has provided mixed results. On the one hand, the people that he 'helps' certainly do exhibit Lust, even if it powers activities that are not normally associated with the Word. There's a certain savor to those particular souls, too: a taste and smell to their emotions that isn't present in those that had unabashedly given in to their lusts on Earth. It's not a drink that Andrealphus would want to drink every day, but it does make a nice change, now and again. The Prince has also always recognized that having strong repressive forces in a society is a potent fertilizer for his Word. Properly primed, Tahariel is good at producing that fertilizer. On the other hand, Andrealphus' regular minions loathe the Habbalite. Wise Servitors of Lust keep their favorite pets (or current projects) far, far away from his reach: Tahariel finds them prime candidates for his services. Indeed, only the fact that the Beautiful Prince has given fairly strict orders to the contrary has kept the Habbalah from being quietly murdered by his own side. This loathing certainly keeps him from being promoted (although, seeing as Tahariel doesn't really understand who he's really working for, that isn't much of a limitation). The Host knows about him, too: in fact, he's been on the verge of being formally put on the Order of the Eternal Sword's list for about two centuries now. One more major success will probably do it - and the Order will be amazed at how many Servitors of Lust will cheerfully volunteer information on Tahariel's last whereabouts. All in all, while the experiment has given valuable results, it will probably end with the Habbalite. Which is a shame. Andrealphus, on those rare occasions where he requires Tahariel's attentions, finds that the failed s u b limation of the Habbalite's essentially Lustful nature is the tastiest of all. Tahariel can't channel his own Lust into something else, when it comes to the Beautiful Prince. He has to feel it, and loathe it, and want it anyway, and loathe himself for that want... ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 02/24/02(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:54:15 -0500 From: Mike Bruner Subject: Re: IN> This maps frighteningly well (Crossposted to Pyramid) At 07:49 PM 3/9/02 -0800, you wrote: >http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine/stories/Game.htm > >...at least, I THINK that it maps frighteningly well. >I had fun writing this: hope you all have equal >amounts of fun reading it. :) ROTFL! Proof how a good GM can create art by accident then, I guess :). The only real question I have is, if Lucious- err, Lucifer was a Seraphim, do they actually have earlobes to mess with? - -- Mike Bruner-- mbruner18@home.com Give a hobbit a fish and he eats fish for a day. Give a hobbit a ring and he eats fish for an age. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:58:16 -0500 From: Mike Bruner Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Conspiracy Theories > > *_Not_ an oxymoron: I've written up demons that I > > wouldn't mind hoisting a beer or two with (Frederick's > > a good example). > > Sparky always struck me as an okay sort, in his way. Sure, he's still >selfish, but it's directed towards "make Vapula not scream at me" >selfish. :) Besides, his interest in keeping Vapula from getting certain ideas makes him downright beneficial to the universe at large :). And of course he's humorous; most demons stop looking nasty and evil when you make them humorous in a non-black humored way (or at least not AS black-humored...). - -- Mike Bruner-- mbruner18@home.com Give a hobbit a fish and he eats fish for a day. Give a hobbit a ring and he eats fish for an age. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:35:10 -0500 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> New Lustie. Well, sorta. At 08:27 AM 3/10/02 -0800, you wrote: >There's a certain savor to those particular souls, too: >a taste and smell to their emotions that isn't present in >those that had unabashedly given in to their lusts on >Earth. It's not a drink that Andrealphus would want >to drink every day, but it does make a nice change, >now and again. Great. Now my brain is stuck trying to come up with labels and logos for Diet Lust and Cherry Lust... ;) - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:27:03 -0500 From: Mike Bruner Subject: Re: IN> New Lustie. Well, sorta. At 04:35 PM 3/10/02 -0500, you wrote: >At 08:27 AM 3/10/02 -0800, you wrote: > >>There's a certain savor to those particular souls, too: >>a taste and smell to their emotions that isn't present in >>those that had unabashedly given in to their lusts on >>Earth. It's not a drink that Andrealphus would want >>to drink every day, but it does make a nice change, >>now and again. > >Great. Now my brain is stuck trying to come up with labels and logos for >Diet Lust and Cherry Lust... ;) There are some terribly sick one which pop to mind for Cherry Lust ("It's no longer just oil that comes in extra-virgin!" :)). As for Diet, maybe "Thin is In (so let's get In Thin)"? - -- Mike Bruner-- mbruner18@home.com Give a hobbit a fish and he eats fish for a day. Give a hobbit a ring and he eats fish for an age. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:46:44 +0000 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> [IRON REV] The House By The Sea I enjoy Iron Rev; I just didn't have time to do one this time. Janet Anderson _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 20:35:06 -0500 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> This maps frighteningly well (Crossposted to Pyramid) I have succeeded in disturbing the residents of my dorm by laughing at the top of my lungs for a straight half hour. Thank you, Moe. Thank you. Josh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 05:34:22 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> New Lustie. Well, sorta. - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > Tahariel > Habbalite of Lust > Angel of Sublimation Niiiiiice. And what a wonderful Word to have under Lust! ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "The other beattitude that's not in the book is this: 'Blessed are those who are pleasant to live with.'" - -- Rev. Claudette Copeland __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2567 ********************************