in_nomine-digest Monday, March 25 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2579 In this digest: Re: IN> Proto-Superior: Mathematics Re: IN> Proto-Superior: Mathematics IN> Servitor of Hardcore Re: IN> Proto-Superior: Mathematics Re: IN> IN Riddles? IN> IN Humor? Re: IN> IN Humor? Re: IN> IN Riddles? Re: IN> IN Riddles? Re: IN> Archaic Attunements for Gabriel Re: IN> New Servitor of Drugs IN> Servitor of Gluttony ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 09:43:27 -0500 From: "Steven E. Ehrbar" Subject: Re: IN> Proto-Superior: Mathematics William J. Keith wrote: >Attunements > >Perebor > > The angel can, quite simply, perform any finite algorithmic >calculations instantly. He can factor PGP keys, solve a travelling >salesman problem, or catch a hidden statistical error. > The ability to solve even NP-complete problems in *zero* time? Eeek! I thought check-digit-six Seraph resonances were hard to work around... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:59:07 -0600 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> Proto-Superior: Mathematics "Steven E. Ehrbar" wrote: > >Attunements > > > >Perebor > > > > The angel can, quite simply, perform any finite algorithmic > >calculations instantly. He can factor PGP keys, solve a travelling > >salesman problem, or catch a hidden statistical error. > > > The ability to solve even NP-complete problems in *zero* time? Eeek! I > thought check-digit-six Seraph resonances were hard to work around... No kidding! You realize this gives him the power to instantly decrypt _anything_? He can ignore passwords or encoding in any medium. Talk about a handy attunement.... - -David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 09:36:26 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Servitor of Hardcore Yup, the name is ironic. I'm trying to write up _nasty_ demons, after all... :) Moe Innocence Shedite Captain of the Mosh Pit Corporeal Forces: 5 Strength: 12 Agility: 8 Ethereal Forces: 3 Intelligence: 6 Precision: 6 Celestial Forces: 4 Will: 10 Perception: 6 Skills: Fighting/4, Dodge/2, Emote/3, Fast-Talk/3, Lying/3, Ranged Weapon/1 (pistol) Songs: Corruption/2, Entropy (Ethereal/2), Might (Corporeal/3, Ethereal/1, Celestial/1), Nightmares (Celestial/1), Opening (Ethereal/1), Sensation (Celestial/1), Shattering (Corporeal/3, Ethereal/2, Celestial/2), Symbiosis (Corporeal/1, Ethereal/5, Celestial/5), Thunder/2 Attunements: Shedite of Hardcore, Overdrive, Captain of the Mosh Pit Innocence used to say (back when it worked for Nybbas) that it didn't consider itself to be bad, per se: just committed to giving humans what they really wanted. Not superficial junk like money or power or fame - what humanity really and truly desires is an excuse to do whatever it is that they feel like doing, deep down in the darker corners of their souls. Being ridden by a Shedite's a great excuse, so from Innocence's point of view everybody one. The Shedite doesn't say that anymore, though. After it joined up with Furfur, Innocence has learned to accept that it is, indeed, bad. But being bad is good. It's amazing how switching Superiors can change a demon's reputation: in an instant Innocence went from screw-up to valued Servitor. Indeed, the Shedite is rapidly going up the ladder of rank: it's on the short list for Words, once the current political situation has been sorted out. Furfur is always ready to reward those ready to go out and push things until they bleed - - something that Innocence is always happy to do. It's not like it has to stick around for the aftermath, after all. Currently, Innocence likes to promote Hardcore in the more inappropriate venues. Starting riots at thrash concerts or opera performances is just too Damned easy to be interesting: real artistry is when you do it at ballet recitals, or Little League games, or anything else that the whitebreads like to do. Sure, its colleagues find this a little odd, but the Shedite points out that Hardcore is everywhere - so if it isn't obviously present at a particular venue, then it damn well should be. Innocence has never been in a crowd where there wasn't a well-repressed urge to cut loose and take down something: it's happy to bring those urges right up to the surface and set them free. For the most part, Innocence's former gig as a Nybbite isn't too obvious (Nybbas stripped it of its Media Attunements, not that it had many to begin with). However, there are a few clues. First off, if given a choice Innocence will always try to possess the prettiest human available: it has a fondness for female hosts, preferably those who normally act in a restrained (or even repressed) manner. Once it has a mount, the Shedite will invariably follow the famous Media dictate about living fast: actually killing the buggers isn't considered smart, but Innocence is quite clever at driving its hosts to all sorts of edges in record time. About the only thing that can be said for the Shedite is that it doesn't usually stick around for long: like its former Prince, Innocence is easily bored. There's always another human to run around in, and one of the nice things about being in a riot is that it's really, really easy to make bodily contact with someone. God help the poor bugger that actually comes home from the event with the Shedite in tow, however: this 'easily bored' thing is very much a two edged sword... ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 02/24/02(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:44:06 -0500 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> Proto-Superior: Mathematics >"Steven E. Ehrbar" wrote: >> >Attunements >> > >> >Perebor >> > >> > The angel can, quite simply, perform any finite algorithmic >> >calculations instantly. He can factor PGP keys, solve a travelling >> >salesman problem, or catch a hidden statistical error. >> > >> The ability to solve even NP-complete problems in *zero* time? Eeek! I >> thought check-digit-six Seraph resonances were hard to work around... > > >No kidding! You realize this gives him the power to instantly decrypt >_anything_? He can ignore passwords or encoding in any medium. Talk >about a handy attunement.... > >-David Yves' "Library Card" attunement basically hands you a password to a computer system -- Perebor won't decrypt anything unless you have the data in some form, you know the encryption system, *and* there are only a finite set of decoding possibilities to try. I mentioned PGP since it's a system which implicitly "hands" you the solution, and there's a definite (if long) algorithm to generate the solution. I figured this was on about that level of game usefulness. (A firend of mine mentions that both of these get a lot munchier in a cyberpunk setting....) An important caveat is that the algorithm must be finite. If you don't know there's a solution, Perebor won't help. For example, you can't use it to "find, or disprove the existence of, the sixth Fermat prime," since it's possible that doesn't exist. Perebor basically gives you an answer which, at least implicitly, you knew already. It won't describe the nature of a soul, or tell you which door has the grand prize behind it, since "trial and error" simply won't work. However, it's entirely possible that there are twink possibilities here I didn't anticipate -- or, worse, that the Attunement is too vague to be useful. My main concern in writing Numeros was to keep him understandable, and yet convey some of the flavor of mathematics as a key component of human understanding and development. I would have gone a lot longer if it weren't for the list limit(I didn't feel like writing up a minor Superior on a Web site). William ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:40:51 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: Re: IN> IN Riddles? >>Qu'est qui de vert devient rouge et frappe fr鮩tiquement ࠬa porte ? >>Un scout dans un four ࠭icro-onde. > >Perry Lloyd, you are Weird. (Which means you fit right in around here.) Merci 8) >I tried to think of some In Nomine riddles along these lines, but all I >could come up with was "What's black and white and red all over?" "A >Malakite on fire in a snowstorm." > >Surely someone (anyone) can do better than that. What's a shedite with a chainsaw? A target. - -Perry perrylloyd@hotmail.com pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu http://www.geocities.com/perrylloyd/ "And that's the hardest thing for a human being to do - be wrong. Do you know that people would rather die than be wrong?" - --from A Matter For Men by David Gerrold _________________________________________________________________ Discutez en ligne avec vos amis, essayez MSN Messenger : http://messenger.msn.fr ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:55:40 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: IN> IN Humor? OK, let's see if I can think up some lame jokes on the spot... - ----- What's a three-word description for a Mercurian of Flowers? Redundant dissonance conditions. - ----- What do you call a Seraph of Flowers holding a grenade launcher? I don't know, but the Malakite wants it back. *Now.* - ----- Hey, did you hear the one about the Balseraph of Secrets who...? No I didn't. - ----- Did you hear about that newly redeemed Bright Lilim who *didn't* have a crush on Laurence? What's his name? - ----- Oh my. An Ofanite of Gabriel just drove a flaming tanker truck into an Infernal Tether. *yawn* It must be Tuesday. - ----- When a Malakite of Eli kills you with a banana, that's normal. When he kills you with the banana peel, that's comedy. But when he kills you with the Chiquita banana *sticker*... that's art! - ----- Define irony. A Balseraph of the Media IST Secrets. - ----- - -- Chuckg _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:41:37 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> IN Humor? From: "Charles Glasgow" > > ----- > Did you hear about that newly redeemed Bright Lilim who *didn't* have a > crush on Laurence? > > What's his name? > When a Malakite of Eli kills you with a banana, that's normal. When he > kills you with the banana peel, that's comedy. But when he kills you with > the Chiquita banana *sticker*... that's art! These two made me laugh so hard that I almost ruptured something. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:02:47 -0500 From: Daniel Sauve Subject: Re: IN> IN Riddles? On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:40:51 , "Perry Lloyd" wrote: >What's a shedite with a chainsaw? > >A target. What's a Calabite with a chainsaw? Happy. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:34:42 -0500 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> IN Riddles? >On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:40:51 , "Perry Lloyd" >wrote: > >>What's a shedite with a chainsaw? >> >>A target. > >What's a Calabite with a chainsaw? > >Happy. What's an Impudite with a chainsaw? Dissonant. What's a Djinn with a chainsaw? Frustrated. What's a Habbalite with a chainsaw? Content. What's a Malakite with three chainsaws? Smug. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 05:52:36 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Archaic Attunements for Gabriel - --- "William J. Keith" wrote: > Seraphim: By touching fire or live coal to a willing > subject's flesh, a > Seraph of Fire could for a number of hours equal to the > Essence spent grant > the subject a bonus equal to the Seraph's Ethereal > Forces, for Detect Lies, > resistance to a Balseraphic resonance, or any roll to see > through deception. Ah, yes. The last recorded use of this Attunement was in the year that King Uzziah died... > Bright Lilim: A Bright Lilim could see what a subject > needed (not > necessarily punishment) to bring them to feel repentance > and absolution for > what the subject felt was their greatest sin. I _like_ this. It's soooo Gabriel. ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "The other beattitude that's not in the book is this: 'Blessed are those who are pleasant to live with.'" - -- Rev. Claudette Copeland __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 05:56:17 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> New Servitor of Drugs - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > Ertrael > Balseraph of Drugs I like it. A useful NPC, complete with motivation. ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "The other beattitude that's not in the book is this: 'Blessed are those who are pleasant to live with.'" - -- Rev. Claudette Copeland __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:20:14 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Servitor of Gluttony He was originally going to have a name that started with L, but I'm afraid that I just couldn't resist the pun*. Moe *Fer cry out loud, just go out and buy a copy of Gustav Davidson's A Dictionary of Angels, why don't ya? It's only $20 American, and worth every penny. What's a week without lunch? Look, I'll even give you the ISBN: 0-02-907052-X. You can order it online and everything. Give in to the Dark Side. Join the Collective. Walk down the primrose path. You know you want to... ;) Javan Impudite Captain of Cannibals Demon of Grease Corporeal Forces: 3 Strength: 6 Agility: 6 Ethereal Forces: 4 Intelligence: 9 Precision: 7 Celestial Forces: 6 Will: 12 Perception: 12 Word Forces: 6 Vessel: human male/3, human female/2, both with +1 Charisma Skills: Artistry/6 (cooking), Dodge/4, Emote/3, Fast-Talk/4, Fighting/4, Knowledge (Recipes/3), Lying/4, Small Weapon/6 (knife), Savoir-Faire/3, Seduction/3 Songs: Charm (Corporeal/3, Ethereal/4, Celestial/5), Ecstasy (Corporeal/2), Harvesting/3, Hunger (Corporeal/1, Ethereal/4, Celestial/1), Laughter (Ethereal/2), Sensation (Corporeal/2), Shields (All/1) Attunements: Impudite of Gluttony, Consume, Devour, Hair of the Dog that Bit You, Sensitivity, Secretly Replaced, Captain of Cannibals, Demon of Grease Demon of Grease: Javan may shoot an effectively unlimited amount of grease from out of his fingertips, of whatever taste and/or consistency he desires. Aside from the culinary uses, this can be also used in combat: the grease jet has a Power of 1, Accuracy of +2 and a range of ten yards. Anyone splashed with the grease must make an Agility roll at -2 each turn to retain hold of any items, or to avoid slipping and falling to the ground. Rites: : Encourage the consumption of any food that is at least 20% grease. : Consume a pound of grease. It's not every day that one sees a Servitor of Gluttony with an Attunement from Lust, but Javan happened to be at the right place at the right time to make one of Andrealphus' little shindigs a night to remember. It was enough to get the Impudite an Attunement ... but not enough to get him away from Haagenti. That's the story of Javan's life. Javan has been trying to Run Away for quite some time now, with a notable lack of success. His quest is hampered, of course, by the fact that he can't seem to be trying to Run Away: that would just bring on the very thing that the Impudite is trying to avoid. There's been more than one Demon of Grease, you see. Indeed, there's been quite a few. Guess where they all ended up? Javan has been scheming furiously to avoid this gristly fate since about five minutes after he received his Word. Naturally, the optimal course is to find a Prince that could somehow find Grease useful - - but of the two obvious choices, Andrealphus has been unresponsive and Javan's smart enough to know that Kobal would just toss him back after the Joke wore thin. There aren't many other suitable candidates - Javan, alas, is a bit of a (read: "a galloping") snob, and shudders to think of having to have his art polluted by working for Saminga and/or Belial. Unfortunately, the list is thus pretty much exhausted. As a stopgap measure, the Impudite has hit upon the twin strategies of: a, doing such a good job that Haagenti will be reluctant to eat him just yet; and b, finding convenient patsies to distract his Prince whenever that worthy starts looking peckish. This has so far worked, making Javan easily the longest holder of his particular Word. Unfortunately, this has also meant that Javan is regularly rewarded for his efforts - - which means that he'll just taste all the better in the end. There's a point of diminishing returns, here, and the Impudite is just starting to see it in the distance. No, Redemption is not an option. Javan likes being the Demon of Grease. He likes being able to make the talking monkeys chow down on things that they know are bad for them, just because it tastes so good. He does have a certain flair for his job, in marked contrast to most of the sorry trash that preceded him, and Javan is fond of sneering at those pathetic losers. He just doesn't want to do it from inside Haagenti's stomach. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 02/24/02(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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