in_nomine-digest Sunday, April 14 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2601 In this digest: Re: IN> Historical Re: IN> Historical Re: IN> Historical Re: IN> In Nomine-Medieval? Re: IN> Recovered Remnants Re: IN> In Nomine-Medieval? IN> sigh... Re: IN> Historical Re: IN> Recovered Remnants Re: IN> Historical Re: IN> Historical Re: IN> In Nomine-Medieval? Re: IN> In Nomine-Medieval? Re: IN> Historical Re: IN> In Nomine-Medieval? Re: IN> Historical Re: IN> In Nomine-Medieval? Re: IN> Historical IN> I need a picture Re: IN> Historical Re: IN> Historical IN> Word Stripping RE: IN> Weird thoughts Re: IN> Word Stripping Re: IN> Historical Re: IN> Word Stripping RE: IN> Weird thoughts Re: IN> I need a picture Re: IN> Historical Re: IN> Historical Re: IN> Weird thoughts Re: IN> Historical Re: IN> Historical IN> New Servitors of Judgment RE: IN> New Servitor of Asmodeus RE: IN> Recovered Remnants RE: IN> The Humanists RE: IN> Historical RE: IN> Historical Re: IN> I need a picture ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 22:02:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Historical - --- Josh Moger wrote: > Only if we get a Brisco County, Jr. soldier of God > (probably IST Michael). > Only if Eli can be the town drunk. Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/13/02(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 00:11:12 -0500 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Historical - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurice Lane" To: Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 12:02 AM Subject: Re: IN> Historical > Only if Eli can be the town drunk. Gabriel (not Gabrielle) gets to be the town's hellfire-and-brimstone preacher then, I take it? *g* - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 01:45:00 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Historical > > >> Only if Eli can be the town drunk. > >Gabriel (not Gabrielle) gets to be the town's hellfire-and-brimstone >preacher then, I take it? *g* > YES! And after Slap Happy Vappy is released from prison, for good behavior and trying to minister to the inmates, he comes back to town and starts a Engineering school with Jean (I have a mental image of a wild-haired Vapula experimenting in a laboratory with Jean, half the laboratory filled with steaming beakers and bubbling liquids, the other half with ordered sets of models and reports) Course, their only pupil is a wild-eyed kid named Nybbas, a nice kid with a few problems. He gets into some trouble every now and then, but he sure does excel at that newfangled e-lec-tricity. We've even got that creepy old grounds keeper watching over the cemetary at the edge of town. What's his name? Sam. Yeah, that was it. Sam. Josh ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 02:17:33 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine-Medieval? >I seem to recall some reference to celestials getting caught up in >millenial fever back around 1000 A.D. But I can't remember now if that >was in canon or in one of my non-canon works. > >-David I dunno, but I do know that virtually nobody on Earth actually knew it even was 1000 A.D., so there wasn't any millennial fever like the was in American these last couple of years -- and I don't imagine beings who had been around for billenia worried overly much about that date either. William ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 01:20:08 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Recovered Remnants From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" > > But I think that pretty much qualifies the situation as a "possibility" Thor is only restored to any semblance of his original self when the hammer a number of his forces are bound to is returned to him. But the canonical status of most of the Revelations Cycle isn't exactly ironclad. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 01:30:35 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine-Medieval? From: "David Edelstein" > > Actually, during the Middle Ages, the belief that Armageddon was > imminent was at least as prevalent as it is now. People seriously believed that 1666 was going to be the end of everything, just to name the first year that I can recall. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 02:49:09 -0700 From: "Patrick None" Subject: IN> sigh... I'm sure this comes up all the time, but does anyone have a Nephilim write - up that isn't Nephilim as Fallen Grigori? On a tangent, preferably Nephilim who are "alternate" - such as technology Nephilim, created via as alternate a method as technology Zombies? Thanks, Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:02:01 +0800 From: Manny Nepomuceno Subject: Re: IN> Historical > >> Only if Eli can be the town drunk. > > > >Gabriel (not Gabrielle) gets to be the town's hellfire-and-brimstone > >preacher then, I take it? *g* I also take it Lilith was in charge of the local, um, entertainment... ;) Manny Neps ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 20:07:43 +1000 From: "Shane" Subject: Re: IN> Recovered Remnants On 14 Apr 2002, 1:20, Prodigal wrote: > Thor is only restored to any semblance of his original self when the > hammer a number of his forces are bound to is returned to him. ... Would that make him less of a Remnant and more someone whose mind was AWOL? (shades of Spock's Brain - body/vessel intact, but brain/soul on forced walkabout rather than destroyed) Shane. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:37:55 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Unni_Sol=E5s?= Subject: Re: IN> Historical On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Manny Nepomuceno wrote: > Only if Eli can be the town drunk. Preferably a little more than 'just' the drunk, eh? How 'bout he be the local craftsman/cobbler/tailor/wossname who tinkers with woodcarving and his camera (no doubt getting hit magnesuim powder from Vappy over at the lab) on his spare time. That is, when he's not down at the saloon drinkin' and fondling Miss Andrea's girlies..:) > > >Gabriel (not Gabrielle) gets to be the town's hellfire-and-brimstone > > >preacher then, I take it? *g* > > I also take it Lilith was in charge of the local, um, entertainment... See above.. OTOH, Miss Andrea might be run out of town, and foced to move to Hades Gulch while Lilith takes over the business... Maybe Rev. Gabriel had something to do with that...? Then there is the poor, lonesome cowboy-vigilante-obligatory-tall-texan named Mike.. *sigh* I haven't seen enough westerns to get all the archetypes here - but we _are_ in sore lack of a doctor. Preferably a hard drinking one. Any suggestions? - -- Stercus, stercus, stercus, moriturus sum! Unni Sol峼/div> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 11:53:17 -0300 From: "vez o'rama" Subject: Re: IN> Historical >From: Unni Sol峠 >Subject: Re: IN> Historical >Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:37:55 +0200 (CEST) > >*sigh* I haven't seen enough westerns to get all the archetypes here - >but >we _are_ in sore lack of a doctor. Preferably a hard drinking one. >Any >suggestions? How about... Dr. Novalis, Medicine Woman? >:) Although I think she'd be more into the peace-pipe than the bottle... :) - - vez _________________________________________________________________ Join the world s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 10:04:09 -0500 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine-Medieval? "William J. Keith" wrote: > I dunno, but I do know that virtually nobody on Earth actually knew it even> was 1000 A.D., so there wasn't any millennial fever like the was in> American these last couple of years Sorry, but you're wrong. Well, as a relative measure of the Earth's population, sure, since by 1000 A.D., Christianity was still mostly a European phenomenon. But in Europe, there was a great deal of millenial fervor. LOTS of people thought the world was going to come to an end at the turn of the millenium. > -- and I don't imagine beings who had> been around for billenia > worried overly much about that date either. Actually (memory hazy, but coming back to me), I think it was Baal. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 10:05:24 -0500 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine-Medieval? Prodigal wrote: > People seriously believed that 1666 was going to be the end of everything,> just to name the first year that I can recall. Boy, you're older than I thought! ;) - -David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 11:10:43 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Historical >> > >>*sigh* I haven't seen enough westerns to get all the archetypes here - >but >>we _are_ in sore lack of a doctor. Preferably a hard drinking one. >Any >>suggestions? > >How about... > >Dr. Novalis, Medicine Woman? >:) > >Although I think she'd be more into the peace-pipe than the bottle... :) > > I don't know... the image of a hard-drinking, swearing, grizzeled old doc by the name of Yves just seems right... Josh ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 15:12:41 +0000 From: "R L" Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine-Medieval? >I am almost certain that someone has at least given some thought to running >an In Nomine campaign in the Middle Ages here. Oh yes. are a welcome respite from the "Oh no! The >Armageddon approaches!" campaigns. They get pretty boring after a while. I like campaigns that come down to saving just one or two souls.. I find they become even more intense... >I'm doing the same and I'm mining around >for ideas (especially from people who have a good grasp of that period of >history). That excludes me as my historical knowledge is rudimentary at best. I hope I'm allowed into the discussion anyway... ;) Let me give a brief summary of what's done so far, and >ask for >suggestions: >I'm going to cut this off, because if you've read this far, you have a >longer attention span than many. >Ideas? I like the period you have chosen although I would probably have chosen England 1340-something and put up my players as soldiers of light (unknowingly) discovering thay have some strange power... Imagine London 1345 (must check exact year but I think it was -45), the plague is breaking out again...some people are talking about witches and the devils influence... and here are these people walking around untouched by the disease and displaying strange powers.... Want to burn some witches? Look no further! (Actually it seems they mostly didn't look further...) Here you have your characters with strange powers they don't quite control, with a mob of angry/frightened Londoners chasing them, and they must still get the job done... Just my two cents. Ron "The breath of the fluteplayer, does it belong to the flute?" - -Rumi _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 10:32:52 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Historical From: "vez o'rama" > > >*sigh* I haven't seen enough westerns to get all the archetypes here - >but > >we _are_ in sore lack of a doctor. Preferably a hard drinking one. >Any > >suggestions? > > How about... > > Dr. Novalis, Medicine Woman? >:) Am I really the only one who thought of Fleurity in this role? Although perhaps he would be more appropriate as the proprietor of a medicine show. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 10:35:59 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine-Medieval? From: "David Edelstein" > Prodigal wrote: > > People seriously believed that 1666 was going to be the end of everything, > > just to name the first year that I can recall. > > Boy, you're older than I thought! ;) I get around. (Laughing almost hard enough to fall out of the chair) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 17:40:31 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Unni_Sol=E5s?= Subject: Re: IN> Historical On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Prodigal wrote: [A doctor for IN: Wild West] > Am I really the only one who thought of Fleurity in this role? > > Although perhaps he would be more appropriate as the proprietor of a > medicine show. He could be the slick, pommaded snake oil salesman... I really liked the thought of Yves as the doc. That was just hilarious:) - -- Stercus, stercus, stercus, moriturus sum! Unni Sol峼/div> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 08:48:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> I need a picture I'm getting a new computer, you see - and it apparently already has a name ("Heresy"*). I'll need an appropriate background picture, of course: does anybody know where I can find a bitmap of one of those "No" symbols? You know, the circle with the diagonal line running through it? (pause) Great. Now does anyone know where I can find one that has devil ears and a tail?** ;) Moe *Although I'm not precisely sure why that name was chosen. **A smiley face with the same added ears and tail would be fairly useful, as well. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/13/02(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 08:52:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Historical - --- Unni_Sol峠 wrote: > Maybe Rev. Gabriel > had something to do with that...? Whoops! I just realized that Narrative causality dictates that the town drunk HAS to be Gabbie. I think that there might be an actual law and everything. Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/13/02(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 08:54:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Historical - --- Josh Moger wrote: > YES! And after Slap Happy Vappy is released from > prison, for good behavior > and trying to minister to the inmates, he comes back > to town and starts a > Engineering school with Jean (I have a mental image > of a wild-haired Vapula > experimenting in a laboratory with Jean, half the > laboratory filled with > steaming beakers and bubbling liquids, the other > half with ordered sets of > models and reports) > > Course, their only pupil is a wild-eyed kid named > Nybbas, a nice kid with a > few problems. He gets into some trouble every now > and then, but he sure > does excel at that newfangled e-lec-tricity. So, essentially we've just gotten into IN Deadlands territory. (pause) You know, that would make a _great_ 32 pager. God knows that Deadlands is selling the conversion license to everybody else... ;) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/13/02(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 11:55:37 -0400 From: "Brian C. Petery" Subject: IN> Word Stripping >Which doesn't mean that losing a Force is _easy_ or _trivial_ or "merely >uncomfortable." It's very painful. >But losing a Word is much, MUCH, _MUCH_, _*MUCH*_ worse. So I have this character concept I've been working on... He once had another name, but only he, and perhaps Lucifer, remember it. Now everyone just calls him Words. He has been The Demon Of: Pettifogging (Invented "In triplicate.") Confused Stories (Added Marion to the Robin Hood Cycle) Freshness (Slap across the face) Stale Bong Water ("It's an aphrodisiac!") Death by Peanut Butter (Invented the idea of injecting it to get high.) Self-Castration (Anabolic Steroids) Bad Hair Cuts ('80s Hair Bands) Sponges (Luffa!) Misuse of Wings (Cadillac) Catarpillars (Gypsy Moth) Mismatched Socks (Dryers. One always goes missing.) Silly Rubber Monsters ("Oh No! There goes Tokyo! Oh no Godzilla!") Words doesn't have a word at the moment. =;>, BC Petery http://www15.brinkster.com/ugwump/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 11:55:37 -0400 From: "Brian C. Petery" Subject: RE: IN> Weird thoughts >I would think, from a Celestial's POV, a Remnant has a chance of someday >healing. Someday recovering. A Remnant doesn't "recover." A Superior will add forces to replace the lost ones, but the resulting Celestial is not the same person they were before. See Revalations V: The Final Trumpet > There aren't any canonical examples of a remnant ever recovering that I >know of. I assume you mean recovering on their own. Wee! I'm a Rules Lawyer!, BC Petery http://www15.brinkster.com/ugwump/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 09:00:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Word Stripping - --- "Brian C. Petery" wrote: > Silly Rubber Monsters ("Oh No! There goes Tokyo! Oh > no Godzilla!") Ahem. It's an interesting concept for a demon (I'm seeing something like a sentient crash test dummy*?), but I -entirely- fail to see how Silly Rubber Monsters can be even remotely considered an Infernal Word... ;) Moe *Or not. :) ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/13/02(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:03:05 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Unni_Sol=E5s?= Subject: Re: IN> Historical On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Maurice Lane wrote: > Whoops! I just realized that Narrative causality > dictates that the town drunk HAS to be Gabbie. I > think that there might be an actual law and > everything. > Dang! Who'll do the preachin' then? Umm.. Could we revive The Metatron for that? I suppose one could let the Judge do both preachin' and judging, but that would be a tad Cruel... - -- Stercus, stercus, stercus, moriturus sum! Unni Sol峼/div> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:06:11 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Unni_Sol=E5s?= Subject: Re: IN> Word Stripping On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Maurice Lane wrote: > Ahem. It's an interesting concept for a demon (I'm > seeing something like a sentient crash test dummy*?), > but I -entirely- fail to see how Silly Rubber Monsters > can be even remotely considered an Infernal Word... > Anyone with children would disagree with you, I think.:) Media is Evil, and Media promotes (amongst other things) Silly Rubber Monsters. And they cost a lot of money. And All The Other Kids Has One. Or several....;) - -- Stercus, stercus, stercus, moriturus sum! Unni Sol峼/div> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:07:06 -0500 From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Subject: RE: IN> Weird thoughts So someone else can't fix it by just adding Forces. Never thought it could. Being repaired is not healing. - -----Original Message----- From: Steven E. Ehrbar [mailto:stevenehrbar@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 7:43 PM To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Subject: Re: IN> Weird thoughts From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" > I would think, from a Celestial's POV, a Remnant has a chance of someday >healing. > GIN 16 -- "Remnants cannot be repaired -- even if a Superior could replace the tattered remains of the soul, the result wouldn't be the same entity, but a new being who had vauge memories of being a Remnant." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:22:51 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> I need a picture > I'm getting a new computer, you see - and it > apparently already has a name ("Heresy"*). I'll need > *Although I'm not precisely sure why that name was > chosen. Come *on*, Moe, you know exactly why. You're the Demon Prince of Heresy, and as you do so much of your work on the computer, it's clearly your Principality. - -- Casca "Many people hear voices when no-one is there. Some of them are called mad and are shut up in rooms where they stare at the walls all day. Others are called writers and they do pretty much the same thing." --Margaret Chittenden, writer ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 13:25:08 -0300 From: "vez o'rama" Subject: Re: IN> Historical >From: Unni Sol峠 >Subject: Re: IN> Historical >Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 17:40:31 +0200 (CEST) > >On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Prodigal wrote: > > > Am I really the only one who thought of Fleurity in this role? > > > > Although perhaps he would be more appropriate as the proprietor of a > > medicine show. > >He could be the slick, pommaded snake oil salesman... Hehe. This is cool. So. :) How about we give him a travelling companion... like: *** Honest Mammon, Rainmaker and Genuine Miracle Worker(tm)!!! **** Honest Mammon, (or Scammin' Mammon as the Sheriff's boys like to call him), a real charmin' feller with a glint in his eye... if you've got a problem, he's got the solution. It might cost a pretty penny, but you know you've gotta have it... Naturally, I can see this leading to problems, as Honest Mammon tries to take over more and more of Fleurity's operations... "Four-Eyes _Fleurity's_ Snake Oil? Where do you think he gets it, anyway?" - - Honest Mammon, Rainmaker and Genuine Miracle Worker(tm) :) - - vez p.s. No doubt these two varmints were responsible for that lame, "Hey, you got cocoa leaves in my snake oil!", ad campaign. :) *ducks* _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 11:28:01 -0500 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Historical - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Unni Sol峦quot; To: Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:03 AM Subject: Re: IN> Historical > Dang! Who'll do the preachin' then? Ever since Reverend Uriel had to... ummm... "go somewhere he could rest"... the town's been kinda lackin' in that department. *g* Alternatively, the idea of Brother Michael, Civil War veteran turned hardline preacher, just flew through my mind cackling for some reason I'm not even going to *begin* to try to figure out (1)... - -- Chuckg (1) *frightened eyes* Is Moe... contagious? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 11:39:02 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Weird thoughts From: "Brian C. Petery" > > > There aren't any canonical examples of a remnant ever recovering that I > >know of. > > I assume you mean recovering on their own. I meant at all, because I had forgotten about both Thor and Mira Klein. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:50:08 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Historical > >> Dang! Who'll do the preachin' then? > >Ever since Reverend Uriel had to... ummm... "go somewhere he could rest"... >the town's been kinda lackin' in that department. *g* > >Alternatively, the idea of Brother Michael, Civil War veteran turned >hardline preacher, just flew through my mind cackling for some reason I'm >not even going to *begin* to try to figure out (1)... > >-- >Chuckg Michael would work, though you'd get some interesting debates between him and "Hang'em High" Dominic. > >(1) *frightened eyes* Is Moe... contagious? It'd explain a great deal. Oh, nearly forgot. Anyone know how we'll run the new librarian out of town? Ever since Yves had to give up the library to take over the town medical practise (after Doc Mak left town under that cloud of suspicion) the only one willing to take over the library is that mean ol varmint Kronos. Don't see what the point of a library is when he won't even let any of the books be lent out. Josh ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 17:02:59 +0000 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> Historical (1) *frightened eyes* Is Moe... contagious? No such luck. Janet Anderson * * * * * * * * The fact that I'm neutral means I'm not on your side. Silverwing's Laws # 46 (attributed to Saleem ibn-Alefan) _________________________________________________________________ Join the world s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 13:22:54 -0400 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: IN> New Servitors of Judgment With the rise of the Demon of False Witness, the most frequently asked question amongst Dominic's angels ran along the lines of "Why has he not been converted to a Force smear on the pavement?" This question was especially loud from the Seraphim, who take Galsiph's existence as a very personal affront. When this question was run up the chain of command, the answers were the same no matter how high up it went. "Wait and see," followed by "Galsiph is not to be harmed directly." While the majority of the Judgment angels gnashed their teeth and waited, Dominic had wrestled with the most appropriate solution. Galsiph's Roles were very prominent, he had impressive defenses and as a demon, he was quite strong. Doing something to him directly could have serious repercussions and it would invite open warfare between him and Asmodeus. It was after two days of deliberation with his advisors that a smile crept across Dominic's face. He called up files on all of his Corporeal Servitors and found the three angels who would best serve Judgment in this matter. And thus it came to be that Triad 2016 was formed. Triad 2016 (Refer to Exodus if you don't get the reference) consists of a Seraph, an Elohite and a Mercurian that as members of other Triads were responsible for the conversion of three Tethers of The Game to Judgment, four high level defections from Hell and over a dozen "Rescues" of angels that nearly fell. Each one has a reputation for focus and patience that made them stand out amongst Dominic's favored Servitors. They quickly accepted the transfer to this new Triad and went to Earth with one mission: Utterly discredit the Demon of False Witness. These three angels keep a close eye out on whatever cases Galsiph happens to be involved in. With a strong knowledge of the law and medicine, they are a formidable countermeasure to Galsiph's work. They have not won every case against him, but they learn from their mistakes quickly and adapt their strategies as necessary. Not only that, but they have the support of Archangels that would normally be hostile or reluctant to help Judgment. For instance: Have a case involving murder by firearms and the wrong man is about to be convicted? Michael has some of the best ballistics expert among his Blessed Souls and has no problem sending them down as Saints to help out. Is there a woman about to be incarcerated over false accounting records? Marc keeps the most vicious bean counters on staff who can go through false books like a razor on paper. With the cooperation of Heaven and a patience greater than most Triads, 2016 feels that it is only a matter of time before Galsiph loses the wrong case against them and earns the ire of Asmodeus. The following are the members of 2016. Gamaliel: Seraph Gamaliel is the leader of the Triad. She served for three centuries on Earth, first as part of another Triad, then as a lone agent. Gamaliel's function within the group is finding out which case Galsiph is going to be at next and soliciting help from the outside with cases. It does grate on her nerves that she is not allowed in the courtroom herself, but she quietly accepts this as the will of her Archangel. Kharamis: Elohite Kharamis, in his role as an attorney, is one of the deadliest weapons against the Demon of False Witness. His knowledge of the law, coupled with his calm demeanor, have wreaked havoc on more than one "Expert Witness." Before joining Triad 2016, he focused on working directly with demons and "counseling" them. He was the one responsible for the high level defections mentioned earlier. Sharakel: Mercurian Originally a Mercurian of War, Michael appointed Sharakel as a liaison between War and Judgment. After a few years, the Mercurian found that he was better suited within Judgment's ranks and was transferred over. Her task within 2016 is typically a psychologist or doctor. Whether in a female or male vessel, Sharakel comes across as professional and friendly. Her personality has won over more than one jury and her testimony has disproved a few of Galsiph's doctors as well as cause a few to lose their license. Her presence on 2016 is the main reason Michael remains cooperative with them. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:09:46 -0500 From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Subject: RE: IN> New Servitor of Asmodeus - -----Original Message----- From: Cameron McCurry [mailto:cmccurry@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 5:56 PM To: In Nomine List Subject: IN> New Servitor of Asmodeus Galsiph Impudite of the Game Captain of Integrity The Demon of False Witness *** Woah. He's got direct opposition to one of the ten commandments. Pretty nifty. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:29:52 -0500 From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Subject: RE: IN> Recovered Remnants - -----Original Message----- From: Shane [mailto:magi.lists@quietdawn.org] Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 5:08 AM To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Subject: Re: IN> Recovered Remnants On 14 Apr 2002, 1:20, Prodigal wrote: > Thor is only restored to any semblance of his original self when the > hammer a number of his forces are bound to is returned to him. ... Would that make him less of a Remnant and more someone whose mind was AWOL? (shades of Spock's Brain - body/vessel intact, but brain/soul on forced walkabout rather than destroyed) Shane. There's gotta be a "Hurt Moe's Brain" idea in there somewhere. Jean laid out, calmly telling Novalis how to reconnect things to implant Rapheal's last remaining Force into his Jean's skull. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:22:36 -0500 From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Subject: RE: IN> The Humanists - -----Original Message----- From: EDG [mailto:anthoch@earlham.edu] As do I. On the other hand, demons *on a regular basis* commit atrocities that we, as humans, couldn't even conceive. > I think it reflects badly on the game when things degenerate into the sort > of behavior I find in the "World of Darkness" crowd. I used to like those > games until they lost the philosophical focus of the first few printings. .. - -EDG I'm dropping the rest of the conversation. You totally fail to understand what I've said. I totally disagree with what you've said. This last statement of yours does bear discussion. I was not saying demons don't do reprehensible things. They are demons after all. In the proper context, some of your angels can do things that are fairly reprehensible to human sensibilities. But to let a game degenerate into who can commit the worst atrocities just to spend a night being grotesque is when the line is crossed. Demonic mayhem should never be without purpose. It might be because the demon is bored, angry, scared, on a power trip or what have you, but it should NEVER be because the player is so. Having Player Character demons so that Players can indulge in sick fantasies is something that I won't watch, won't GM and will never condone. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:34:35 -0500 From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Subject: RE: IN> Historical - -----Original Message----- From: Unni Sol峠[mailto:solas@pvv.ntnu.no] > Dang! Who'll do the preachin' then? Umm.. Could we revive The Metatron for that? I suppose one could let the Judge do both preachin' and judging, but that would be a tad Cruel... - -- Stercus, stercus, stercus, moriturus sum! Unni Sol峼/div> I know someone already said Yves, but when you get down to it, Jean's Word in it's older applications might be fitting. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:27:06 -0500 From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Subject: RE: IN> Historical - -----Original Message----- From: Manny Nepomuceno [mailto:darkness@i-manila.com.ph] > >> Only if Eli can be the town drunk. > > > >Gabriel (not Gabrielle) gets to be the town's hellfire-and-brimstone > >preacher then, I take it? *g* I also take it Lilith was in charge of the local, um, entertainment... ;) Manny Neps Naww. Lucky Lilly and her sidekick Mal the Carpet Bagger were those con artists that come into town and convinced everyone that the rail road was coming through. They made a bunch a money and nearly got lynched. Some smarmy city felleh named Andy runs the local house of pleasure. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 20:03:49 +0000 From: "R L" Subject: Re: IN> I need a picture I'll need >an appropriate background picture, of course: does >anybody know where I can find a bitmap of one of those >"No" symbols? You know, the circle with the diagonal >line running through it? I can make that for you in Adobe Illustrator. >Great. Now does anyone know where I can find one that >has devil ears and a tail?** I can add that too if you like... ;) >**A smiley face with the same added ears and tail >would be fairly useful, as well. I can make that too if you want. Ron _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2601 ********************************