in_nomine-digest Wednesday, April 17 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2606 In this digest: IN> [ADMIN] Re: Laurence and the Pope Re: IN> Weird thoughts Re: IN> Weird thoughts Re: IN> Weird thoughts Re: IN> Laurence and the Pope Re: IN> Laurence and the Pope Re: IN> Laurence and the Pope Re: IN> Weird thoughts IN> Humanity Attunement (Re: Laurence and the Pope) Re: IN> Humanity Attunement (Re: Laurence and the Pope) Re: IN> Laurence and the Pope Re: IN> A few unrelated questions Re: IN> A few unrelated questions Re: IN> Laurence and the Pope RE: IN> A few unrelated questions Re: IN> Weird thoughts Re: IN> Laurence and the Pope RE: IN> Beth, of Many Words (RE: Historical) RE: IN> Lets go be evil Re: IN> Cowboys and INjuns was: Re:Historical Re: IN> I need a picture Re: IN> I need a picture Re: IN> sigh... IN> Servitor of Cruelty IN> Servitor of Factions IN> Servitor of the Media Re: IN> Laurence and the Pope RE: IN> Wild West RE: IN> A few unrelated questions RE: IN> A few unrelated questions Re: IN> Servitor of the Media Re: IN> Servitor of Factions Re: IN> Laurence and the Pope Re: IN> Wild West ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:08:51 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> [ADMIN] Re: Laurence and the Pope At 1:59 PM -0400 4/16/02, Cameron McCurry wrote: >> Now, with the charges of child abuse being raised against some catholic >> clergy members (which, to be honest, is something the Catholics have always >> been accused of by detractors) > > I hope that you are not implying that the only reason these priests are >being accused of raping children is because of detractors. In Nomine content, people. In Nomine content. These two paragraphs have no In Nomine content. Take things with no In Nomine content OFF THE LIST. - --Beth, List Admin http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/listrules.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:12:25 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Weird thoughts As I recall the Liber Canticorum, there is a Song that temporarily restores Remnants to their former state -- though, since the restoration IS temporary, it's not at all clear that this is a nice thing to do. Still, it does suggest that, if a character sings that Song and rolls a favorable Intervention, a little resurrection might be a natural interpretation of the dice. Hm. Perhaps I should say an Intervention favorable to the Remnant. Imagine the look on a demon's face when he sings Restoration on an angelic remnant, intent on extracting a little information, then taunting the creature as its time runs out and Remnanthood looms, only to discover that this angel isn't going anywhere. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 18:22:20 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Weird thoughts >From: Earl Wajenberg >Subject: Re: IN> Weird thoughts >Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:12:25 -0500 >Hm. Perhaps I should say an Intervention favorable to the >Remnant. Imagine the look on a demon's face when he sings >Restoration on an angelic remnant, intent on extracting a little >information, then taunting the creature as its time runs out >and Remnanthood looms, only to discover that this angel isn't >going anywhere. You mean the demon actually lived long enough to see the Song reach its scheduled end-point? *eg* - -- Chuckg _________________________________________________________________ Join the world s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 18:24:27 +0000 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> Weird thoughts >Imagine the look on a demon's face when he sings >Restoration on an angelic remnant, intent on extracting a little >information, then taunting the creature as its time runs out >and Remnanthood looms, only to discover that this angel isn't >going anywhere. *delighted chortle* I hope it's a Malakite ... Janet Anderson _________________________________________________________________ Join the world s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:29:57 -0400 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: Re: IN> Laurence and the Pope Now aside from my one earlier gripe about the post (Mea culpa, List Admin), I doubt that Heaven would want to interfere in the choosing of a new pope. Although Laurence might have an idea about who HE wants as the pope, he would accept whoever the RCC chose. And I would not doubt in the least that he has a squad of angels, Soldiers and Saints in the area to insure that demonic interference is kept out of this. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:36:47 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Laurence and the Pope > Now aside from my one earlier gripe about the post (Mea culpa, List Admin), >I doubt that Heaven would want to interfere in the choosing of a new pope. >Although Laurence might have an idea about who HE wants as the pope, he would >accept whoever the RCC chose. > And I would not doubt in the least that he has a squad of angels, Soldiers >and Saints in the area to insure that demonic interference is kept out of this. > A darn shame about that very very nervous Habbalite of the Game with Humanity perpetually activated... Josh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:42:53 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Laurence and the Pope Cameron McCurry wrote: > I doubt that Heaven would want to interfere in the choosing of a > new pope. I agree. The current Commander of the Host, after all, believes the pope to be selected by the College of Cardinals under the direction of the Holy Spirit (which would be, in game terms, by a Divine Intervention). Earl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:45:28 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Weird thoughts >As I recall the Liber Canticorum, there is a Song that temporarily >restores Remnants to their former state -- though, since the >restoration IS temporary, it's not at all clear that this is a >nice thing to do. This brings up a scene a great deal reminiscent of "Awakenings." ::sniff:: That movie always makes me feel sad... Course... hmm... :::::::Seed Plot Alert:::::::Seed Plot Alert::::::: Hidden Makatiel/Vapulan-brand celestial virus... Incompetant demon (preferably Calabite) sneaking around someplace he shouldn't be... Comes out of Tartarus (or where-ever Makatiel's Principality was) with something he didn't have when he went in... Makes it to a tether and lands in L.A... Few weeks later, hearts start shattering... And there's a sudden increase in the homeless population as people (or people-like beings) begin wandering around wondering what that music was... the music that just stopped... they used to know... but now all they have... is a Remnant. Josh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:53:02 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> Humanity Attunement (Re: Laurence and the Pope) At 2:36 PM -0400 4/16/02, Josh Moger wrote: >A darn shame about that very very nervous Habbalite of the Game with >Humanity perpetually activated... He better be nervous... He can keep re-activating it -- but only till he runs out of Essence. He can't regain Essence AT ALL (well, a friend might be able to feed it to him) while "Human." So unless he's got people using the Celestial Song of Tongues every day to keep him filled up, he's going to run out... And spending the Essence to cause him to stay Human is going to cause disturbance. (Not to say it's not possible. But it does explain why he's so very, VERY nervous. O;> ) - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:01:28 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Humanity Attunement (Re: Laurence and the Pope) > >(Not to say it's not possible. But it does explain why he's so very, >VERY nervous. O;> ) > Well... originally it was just because he was surrounded by members of the Eternal Order of the Sword and their human counterparts... but that works too. Hmm... "...give us this day our daily bread..." "Here is your daily blessing of essence, Havaktiel, re-assume your disguise of Humanity and rejoin the Cardinals so that you may help them express My divine will." "Yes, oh lord." - - - - -- -- - -- -- - Asmodeus opened his eyes from his message with Havaktiel, sat back in his chair within his inner office and smiled the smug grin of one who has manuevered a pawn into his enemy's home, past the bishops and knights... and seen it become a queen. Josh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:12 +0100 (BST) From: jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) Subject: Re: IN> Laurence and the Pope In article , cglasgow@hotmail.com (Charles Glasgow) wrote: > OTOH, I'd still hate to be the Servitor of Factions assigned to the > Vatican detail... I'm sure Judgement is giving the Sword all the > assistance it needs re: the counter-subversion efforts. It's one of those assignments that are used in Factions to make it /clear/ that you backed the wrong group, and didn't jump ship at the right moment. With any luck, the other group in that quarrel have your Heart, so you stand a chance, if you do a lot of crawling, of getting to it and then going Renegade. Luck rarely has anything to do with it, you understand. - --- John Dallman jgd@cix.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:12 +0100 (BST) From: jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) Subject: Re: IN> A few unrelated questions In article , jmensch@shaw.ca (Julian Mensch) wrote: > ... I'm also partial to the Mercurians knowing what it > takes to gain someone's trust; I'm almost tempted > to make that their main resonance and the core > table into their -2 table. It very much fits with > the role of the ministering angel, and it's nicely > creepy for low-contrast games. Others, including my referee, have objected strongly to the expanded Mercurian tables, as being too much like do-it-yourself Lillim. I feel they have a point; they'd squawk quite loud about swapping the main and -2 tables. Personally, I've been thinking about what would happen if Mercurians could do the same trick with long-term use of their resonance as Elohim can. It also fits the "ministering angel", IMHO, and it's much more to do with understanding people as people. - --- John "It's hard being a Mercurian of The Sword" Dallman jgd@cix.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 16:24:42 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> A few unrelated questions > covered anywhere else. But then again, I play with the Eden Ban most of the Yay! :) Thanks for the compliment. - -- Casca "Many people hear voices when no-one is there. Some of them are called mad and are shut up in rooms where they stare at the walls all day. Others are called writers and they do pretty much the same thing." --Margaret Chittenden, writer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 16:55:34 -0400 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: Re: IN> Laurence and the Pope - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 13:59:12 -0400 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: Re: IN> Laurence and the Pope > Now, with the charges of child abuse being raised against some catholic > clergy members (which, to be honest, is something the Catholics have always > been accused of by detractors) I hope that you are not implying that the only reason these priests are being accused of raping children is because of detractors. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------ No, not at all... I don't know the facts of the case currently on topic in the states, but Catholic priests being accused of pedophilia is something that's happened before. The fact the church seperates the genders in their church-run schools doesn't help. Here in Quebec, like in France, it's an old joke that alterboys shouldn't bend over for the priest. That's how bad the rumors get... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 17:14:36 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: RE: IN> A few unrelated questions >>From: Julian Mensch >>Subject: IN> A few unrelated questions > >>Compose 6 Geas/1 into 1 Geas/6? >>I don't think so! > >You better believe it. > >IN p.149, paragraph 1. >"Favors are cumulative. If a person owes a Lilim two Geas/3 favors, she may >call them both in at once, resulting in one Geas/6 favor!" > > >Wee! I'm a Rules Lawyer! > >BC Petery >http://www15.brinkster.com/ugwump/ Some people have pointed out that this can give the Lilim a massively disproportionate return for her effort. GURPS: In Nomine has what I feel to be a reasonable rate of conversion, which is that four Geas-hooks of one level can be combined into one Geas-hook of the next higher level. Some calculations: A Lilim of Gluttony can get a Geas/2("pick me up some petty cash from your workplace") for a good meal. To combine these into a Geas/6 ("kill your boss"), she would need 256 such meals, or roughly a year of feeding her target every weekday. Had she been doing little favors every day for a Geas/1, it would take her 1024 days, or nearly three years. It takes a patient Lilim to work up that kind of power, especially when there's probably a human nearby with a Need/6 that can be fulfilled with a few weeks' of elbow grease; but it's very subtle. If a Lilim (or a Bright Lilim, since I'm still leery of running demonic PCs) wanted to call in less than 4 Geasa together, I'd probably combine them "linearly," by adding up (or dividing, as appropriate) the time intervals of their effect, or geasing multiple actions of the same type. William ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 17:24:42 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> Weird thoughts >As I recall the Liber Canticorum, there is a Song that temporarily >restores Remnants to their former state -- though, since the >restoration IS temporary, it's not at all clear that this is a >nice thing to do. Solace (Celestial). Solace is sort of like Healing, except that Solace tends to make symptoms go away for a bit rather than heal the fundamental problem. Despite the iffiness of the whole Remnant thing possibly breaking some notions of canon, I like their potential. They can be used very angelically, to soothe pain and suffering, or surprisingly demonically, to fool and lull someone. Think "Flowers vs. Stone on the necessity of human sorrow" for the philosophical values in question here. >Earl William ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:35:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Laurence and the Pope - --- Cameron McCurry wrote: > Although Laurence might have an idea about who HE wants > as the pope, he would > accept whoever the RCC chose. > And I would not doubt in the least that he has a > squad of angels, Soldiers > and Saints in the area to insure that demonic > interference is kept out of this. One of the Iron Rev's (I forget which one, and please don't ask me for the link) features a demonic plot to seize the Papacy. That adventure is about to become really timely -- and I hear the writer's a really nice guy... 0;> ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "In film, the director is God. In documentaries, God is the director." - -- Alfred Hitchcock __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 17:18:18 -0500 From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Subject: RE: IN> Beth, of Many Words (RE: Historical) - -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth McCoy [mailto:emccoy@nh.ultranet.com] At 6:18 PM -0500 4/15/02, Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW) wrote: >I don't know the List Beth well enough to make such an assessment. I was >basing it off the Tattered Universe Beth of the Library, which if I >understand everything is a wry nod at List Beth, but I won't make claims on >other people's works. Wry nod? _Wry Nod_? *SNIFFLE* I wrote it myself! (Once Moe said I ought to.) >If there is a canonical Beth of Archives, I haven't seen that sourcebook, On the INC. Both the Archangel and the Princess. Not canonical. - --Beth, Archangel of Archives http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/articles/INChar/Angels/Arcangel.Beth.html My apologies. I've not been inport since signing on list and I have no internet access. I haven't atually seen the Tattered Webpage but once for a very short period. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 17:24:17 -0500 From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Subject: RE: IN> Lets go be evil - -----Original Message----- From: Brian C. Petery [mailto:bpetery@bellatlantic.net] Tell your players "If you want to be a jerk you have to design a new character who is a jerk." Of course, that can encourage munchkinism. BC Petery http://www15.brinkster.com/ugwump/ Actually, I tell my players who want to be jerks to go find a different game. I don't tolerate jerks in my life. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 18:52:47 -0700 From: "Patrick None" Subject: Re: IN> Cowboys and INjuns was: Re:Historical As always (you know, the last week) - thanks! Re A, C, and D - pretty much got all the "straight" history - and the weird stuff that a google search turns up (which, by and large, wrote my current PBEM background. A RL abortion clinic which offers student discounts? One of the oldest bicycle courier services in the country? I love San Francisco). B, I'll be sure to do after coporeal players guide, and probably anime. ^_^ I guess I shouldn't have said interesting, but instead weird, creepy, and or alternative theories regarding the Chinese labor camps... Regards, Patrick > At 8:10 PM -0700 4/15/02, Patrick None wrote: > > On a less Weird West note, does anyone have any interesting notes about the > >Chinese labor camps in early California? > > Hrm. My best suggestion would be to... > > A: google for it (www.google.com) > > B: Grab GURPS Old West > > C: Mine the bibliography of the above (I'm sure it's got a bibli...) > > D (or B, depending): Check the library? > > > --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor > RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 00:00:00 +0000 From: "R L" Subject: Re: IN> I need a picture Eh... it appears all the mails from the IN list lately have been denied access by my computer due to some ridiculous settings I had. Could all of those that wanted the images I created please give me a hint again... Sorry for the inconvenience... Ron _________________________________________________________________ Join the world s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:25:11 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> I need a picture Me, please. ;) - -- Casca "Many people hear voices when no-one is there. Some of them are called mad and are shut up in rooms where they stare at the walls all day. Others are called writers and they do pretty much the same thing." --Margaret Chittenden, writer - ----- Original Message ----- From: "R L" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 8:00 PM Subject: Re: IN> I need a picture > > Eh... it appears all the mails from the IN list lately have been denied > access by my computer due to some ridiculous settings I had. > Could all of those that wanted the images I created please give me a hint > again... Sorry for the inconvenience... > > Ron > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 21:45:07 -0700 From: "Patrick None" Subject: Re: IN> sigh... Oh. Well, lets see.. For technology, They probably whisper in a language that can't be at ALL understood. Unless, for some reason, you thought to, had the hardware for, the cyrptologists, the biologists, the phoneticians, and the programmers needed, and started matching up the vocal code to DNA sequences, in which case the information you get might be very, very bad indeed. Cool. Its something I'll fop out. Thanks! Patrick > > http://www.blackivorytower.com/~firefly/neph.htm > > This one came out of a campaign that was an In Nomine - Call of Cthulhu > crossover. Might work for you. Hope you like > > Michael > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 21:21:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Servitor of Cruelty Well, so much for not being weird. :) Moe Veischax Calabite Captain of Sadists Corporeal Forces: 5 Strength: 12 Agility: 8 Ethereal Forces: 5 Intelligence:10 Precision: 10 Celestial Forces: 5 Will: 12 Perception: 8 Well, he was like that, before being broken out of his celestial jail along with his Prince. After roughly thirty seven celestial combats (and a seriously annoyed look by Gabriel), it's more like: Corporeal Forces: 2 Strength: 2 Agility: 6 Ethereal Forces: 3 Intelligence: 4 Precision: 8 Celestial Forces: 3 Will: 4 Perception: 8 Vessel: burly male/5, -1 Charisma Again, this was only true before the Calabite had a really, really bad day - and a fairly excruciating stay in Limbo. These days, it's: Vessel: baby/1 Skills: Dodge/6, Fighting/6, Large Weapons (club/4, sword/4) Songs: Blood/4, Entropy (Ethereal/4), Feedback/6, Light (Celestial/6), Numinous Corpus (Acid/3, Barbs/3, Claws/3, Feet/3, Tail/3, Tongue/3, Wings/3), Shields (All/4), Thunder/6 Attunements: Calabite of Cruelty, Ferocity, Lash, Captain of Sadists Discord: Ugly/3 Well, that stayed: just add Bound/5. Veischax really wanted to get out of Limbo. Veischax used to agree that Hell is other people. "Other people" being defined as "minions of Magog trapped in a prison with only each other and the Prince of Cruelty to keep each other company", of course. Still, one could argue that the entire experience was goo... that is, 'useful' ... for the survivors. After all, anyone that survived the experience would be ready for anything, right? Wrong. When Veischax got himself trapped in the first place, humans were hitting each other with sharpened bronze sticks. When he came out, ten feet tall and farting fire, it was a bit of a shock for him to encounter such minor improvements as steel, gunpowder, dynamite, napalm and depleted uranium slugs. Things got very, very messy after that. So did Veischax: by the end, it was down to a choice between Limbo and soul-death. Amazingly, Limbo wasn't what you'd call fun, either. Sure, the lack of tormented Servitors of Cruelty serving their collective Word was a plus at first, but that palled, fast. Veischax isn't precisely what you'd call an introspective sort of demon, so being forced to be so went right past 'trying' to hit 'excruciating' dead center. He very quickly came to the conclusion that a vessel - any vessel - would be preferable. Unfortunately, that meant cutting a few corners. This wasn't particularly smart - but the major thing to remember about Veischax is that he hasn't quite gotten it through his head yet that he's about half as powerful as he used to be. The automatic reflexes are all calibrated to 'bad-ass' rather than 'barely fledged', you see - and the Calabite has precisely the wrong sort of personality to hope for getting by on charm. Saminga has more charm than this Calabite. Again, if Veischax had been a bit brighter he probably wouldn't have come back with a baby vessel - but then, if he had been brighter he wouldn't have been too surprised to find that someone had thoughtfully arranged for the smashing of the Calabite's Heart. The delayed reaction to that has pretty much forced him to keep the vessel that he has until he can find his Prince. True, that might not be the wisest thing to do, under the circumstances - but, really, how can things be any worse? Don't answer that. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/13/02(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 21:23:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Servitor of Factions Hey, I GET to make (nonspecific) comments like this if I'm routinely guilty of doing it, too. It's like a rule, or something... :) Moe Winifred Balseraph Knight of Deception Demon of Humble Opinions Corporeal Forces: 3 Strength: 6 Agility: 6 Ethereal Forces: 4 Intelligence: 8 Precision: 8 Celestial Forces: 5 Will: 12 Perception: 8 Word-Forces: 5 Vessel: human female/2, +1 Charisma Skills: Computer Operation/1, Dodge/3, Emote/3, Fast-Talk/5, Fighting/2, Savoir-Faire/4, Seduction/3 Songs: Charm (Ethereal/3, Celestial/3), Disjunction (Corporeal/6), Distortion/3, Shields (All/3), Thunder/3 Attunements: Balseraph of Factions, Habbalite of Factions, Imbroglio, Polarize, Protective Coloration, Knight of Deception, Demon of Humble Opinions Demon of Humble Opinions: Once per day, Winifred can invoke her Humble Opinion to double either her Celestial Forces (only for determining the number of people that are affected by her resonance) or Ethereal (only for determining the duration of her Balseraph or Habbalite Attunements). In either case, she must preface this ability by first saying the Dread Words. Rites : Cause someone to preface a statement with the Dread Words. Paradoxically, it's the little irritations that can seem the most, well, irritating. After all, there's often very little you can do about the environment, nuclear proliferation, taxes or the local crop of Idiots in Charge - but you can do something about people who say the Dread Words. Admittedly, the things that you can do are usually not very nice, and if you get caught doing them, you stand a good chance of going to jail, but you could do something, damn it all. It's precisely in this state of acute frustration and wishfully suppressed homicidal urges that Winifred does her best work. Let the flashy Servitors of Factions try to foment international tension and mass blood feuds: the Balseraph is content to work on the micro level, one endless meeting or spoiled get-together at a time. It's necessary work and safer to boot: one of the drawbacks to being a heavy hitter for Malphas is that angels like to do the same to you. Winifred is good at what she does, and wants to keep on doing it for a long, long time. Still, a bit of expansion would be nice - and the Balseraph has noticed that her Word has been picking up lately, thanks to the Internet. So many people online who (erroneously) think that they really do have relevant (and humble) opinions about things, not to mention the belief that it's OK to type out any damn fool thing that drifts into their simian heads, regardless of whether they actually know what they're talking about. The Net is Balseraph country, in other words - and Winifred is ready to stake her claim. At the rate that her Word's inflating, she may be able soon to focus her resonance to affect those online: when that happens, watch out. You think that Usenet's raucous now? Just wait: it's about to become a Hell of a ride. Just don't ever modify the Dread Words in her presence, whether face-to-face or digitally. Prefacing comments with "In My Arrogant Opinion" seriously drives her nuts: it seems to make light of the whole phenomenon, and you know how Balseraphs get when they think that you aren't taking them seriously... ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/13/02(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 21:25:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Servitor of the Media I've been waiting to do this one for a few days now. Warning: there's a pun lurking in this one... :) Moe Pei-Pei Shedite of the Media Demon of Hairpieces Corporeal Forces: 2 Strength: 4 Agility: 4 Ethereal Forces: 5 Intelligence: 9 Precision: 11 Celestial Forces: 6 Will: 12 Perception: 12 Word Forces: 2 Skills: Artistry (Makeup/1, Writing/1), Detect Lies/2, Emote/6, Knowledge (Contract Law/3, Hollywood politics/3, Psychology/2), Savoir-Faire/4, Seduction/3 Songs: Attraction (Ethereal/1), Charm (Ethereal/1, Celestial/1), Corruption/2, Light (Celestial/3), Might (Corporeal/1), Opening (Ethereal/3), Possesion/3, Shields (All/2), Symbiosis (All/1), Tongues (Ethereal/4) Servant: Human Hairdresser (Class 4, level 6) Attunements: Shedite of the Media, Fifteen Minutes of Fame, Green Light, S u b liminal, Demon of Hairpieces Demon of Hairpieces: Pei-Pei may automatically possess any kind of false hair (wigs, toupees, hair extensions, and so forth). Duration is for however long it feels like it. Frankly, Pei-Pei is envied quite a bit by his colleagues: even in an organization like the Media there has to be some demons with stable positions on the greasy pole of rank, and the Shedite is one of them. Pei-Pei has a specific set of tasks, and it sticks to them like spirit gum. You see, sometimes the Media needs to keep a light hand on a particular project's reins, annoying as that might be. After all, even in Hollywood there are people who would balk at having an actual demon sitting in on production meetings. There are also those annoying moralists in the Host. Nybbas' extraordinary success has had some unfortunate consequences for his Servitors: by now, the first thing that the average angel does when encountering television or movie people is to automatically look around for the demons. When they find them, things get complicated fast. Luckily, many people are vain about their appearance - from Nybbas' point of view, they had better be; he's spent enough time encouraging the concept - so there's an easy solution. Find one that sports a hairpiece and make sure that Pei-Pei gets a chance to set up shop. This is fairly easy for the Shedite: his generic servants all come from the most exclusive, most discreet hair studio on the West Coast. They're so exclusive and so discreet that merely knowing that they exist indicates that you're either a player, or at least sleeping with one. Better and better, they're considered to be lucky for their clients, as well. This is actually true, given a liberal interpretation of the word 'lucky'. What actually happens is that they will sometimes get Pei-Pei's personal attention, just before a big pitch or meeting. The Shedite is good at carefully pushing the agenda in directions pleasing to the Media: judicious use of supernatural abilities can pay great dividends ('great' also being s u b ject to a liberal interpretation, of course). Pei-Pei is a bit more patient than most of its Band-mates (it doesn't have to worry about time limits and/or corrupting its hairpiece hosts, after all), but it makes up for this minor mercy by being a stone-cold, ruthless, nasty-minded revolving son of a bitch on wheels. It's a bit of a prima donna, too, which is why it hasn't gotten a Distinction yet (the other stuff is too common among Nybbas' people to be an actual limitation). There was at least one case where a promising (remember the liberal interpretation bit, please) career was cut short, just because the talking monkey happened to insult a toupee that Pei-Pei was wearing. Nybbas was careful to make his displeasure known at what the Shedite's eventual revenge made the aforementioned talking monkey do. There had to be a bit of schedule juggling, thanks to Pei-Pei's little escapade, and that can make the Telegenic Prince a mite testy. Still, Nybbas got some good footage out of the deal, so it wasn't a total loss. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/13/02(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 03:24:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Laurence and the Pope - --- Josh Moger wrote: > A darn shame about that very very nervous Habbalite > of the Game with > Humanity perpetually activated... Oh, there are ways around that. A squad of Seraphim standing around and resonating everyone during the reaffirmation of Baptismal vows would be good, for a start... Hmmm. What _does_ a Seraph get when he resonates a Habbalite with Humanity on, gets a 6, then gets a response to the traditional question, "Do you renounce Satan?" Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/13/02(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 06:34:55 -0500 From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Subject: RE: IN> Wild West He still makes a better Settler. The "Little House on the Prairie" kind'a guy that brings communites together even as it promotes self reliance. I'm thinking David really liked the American Old West. - -----Original Message----- From: Manny Nepomuceno [mailto:darkness@i-manila.com.ph] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 3:06 AM To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Subject: Re: IN> Wild West Hey, >And Stinky Dave can be the crazy old prospector. I had him in mind as the local blacksmith, but that's just me :) ;) Manny Neps http://www.geocities.com/angeloffools ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 04:46:38 -0600 From: Julian Mensch Subject: RE: IN> A few unrelated questions Elizabeth McCoy wrote: << As a note, you might want to check out the archived reviews at www.rpg.net -- you're asking a lot of questions which are actually answered there. >> Thank you all for the info. It looks then like I'll be picking up the IPG, as it sounds both interesting and useful... :) - -- Julian Mensch ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 04:46:39 -0600 From: Julian Mensch Subject: RE: IN> A few unrelated questions << > highly suspect> that thesource is /The Alphabet of Ben Sira/, > because the incompetant God motif very much fits > with that work's tone, but I don't have a full > copy of that work, and don't really know where > to get one, or even if it really is the source. > So I thought there were several bright minds on > the list, and it couldn't hurt to ask... There's this wonderful invention called the Internet -- maybe you've heard of it? It lets you find lots of things quickly. >> Yes, David, it's not beyond my ability to locate and purchase a copy of Ben Sira if I really wanted to. I had meant it's not at my Christian school's seminary library, which is otherwise quite impressive. Since I don't have 140$+ CAN lying around to drop on checking an esoteric referance, I thought I would ask the group if anyone knew the legend. Your reply was eminantly helpful. - -- Julian Mensch ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 06:14:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Servitor of the Media And what happens if someone else inherits a toupee once inhabited by Pei-pei? I suppose it can be considered a hairloom. };> ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "In film, the director is God. In documentaries, God is the director." - -- Alfred Hitchcock __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 10:03:38 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Servitor of Factions Winifred's strategy reminds me of Crowley's in "Good Omens." Rather than anything flashy or melodramatic, Crowley caused widespread and diffuse anger and suffering by screwing up the London highway system, for instance, or bollixing telephone exchanges. "You could hear arteries clanging shut all over the city." Earl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 10:18:34 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Laurence and the Pope >> A darn shame about that very very nervous Habbalite >> of the Game with >> Humanity perpetually activated... > >Oh, there are ways around that. A squad of Seraphim >standing around and resonating everyone during the >reaffirmation of Baptismal vows would be good, for a >start... > >Hmmm. What _does_ a Seraph get when he resonates a >Habbalite with Humanity on, gets a 6, then gets a >response to the traditional question, "Do you renounce >Satan?" > snip Oh simple: "Yes." says Azzie's 'penitent,' Renegade, deluded, Habbalite who believes he is doing God's work and is getting essence directly from God. Check. Josh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 10:21:34 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Wild West >He still makes a better Settler. The "Little House on the Prairie" kind'a >guy that brings communites together even as it promotes self reliance. I'm >thinking David really liked the American Old West. > Hmm... I don't know. I'm guessing Malphas had a bit to do with the annhilation of native peoples. Hmm... interesting seed thought. Using angels of Stone to bring togther Native Americans in order to defend against European settlers. Josh ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2606 ********************************