in_nomine-digest Saturday, April 27 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2615 In this digest: Re: IN> Zapan, Demon Prince of Ice Re: IN> Zapan, Demon Prince of Ice Re: IN> Zapan, Demon Prince of Ice Re: IN> The Tether of The Last Unicorn Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! Re: IN> Zapan, Demon Prince of Ice Re: IN> Zapan, Demon Prince of Ice Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! Re: IN> Zapan, Demon Prince of Ice Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! Re: IN> Zapan, Demon Prince of Ice Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! IN> [ADMIN] Check for Viruses! IN> Re: [admin] Check for Viruses! Re: IN> [ADMIN] Check for Viruses! Re: IN> Zapan, Demon Prince of Ice Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! RE: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! Re: IN> The Tether of The Last Unicorn Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! IN> The Lanceolate Leaf, pt. I Re: IN> [admin] Check for Viruses! Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! Re: IN> [admin] Check for Viruses! Re: IN> I must ask... Re: IN> The Tether of The Last Unicorn Re: IN> Zapan, Demon Prince of Ice RE: IN> The Tether of The Last Unicorn IN>Impossible Invocation Modifiers IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:40:03 -0400 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> Zapan, Demon Prince of Ice At 10:34 AM 4/26/02 -0400, you wrote: >OK, but it should at least exist. Asking for the iceberg that sank the >Titanic is like asking for Nero's last fart. It's gone, never to be seen >again. As I've never seen any evidence that anyone even *knows* which iceberg sank the Titanic, to say definitively that it doesn't exist is somewhat outside my jurisdiction. For all I - or, as far as I know, anyone else - know, that iceberg is still floating around somewhere in the North Atlantic. In any event, the invocation modifier could easily refer to its ethereal counterpart - or, in In Nomine, some random, forgotten servitor of Dark Humor could easily have turned the iceberg into a corporeal artifact with the Unbreakable feature. (That demon, should he make himself known to Zapan, would almost certainly receive a Distinction.) - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:44:54 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Zapan, Demon Prince of Ice > >OK, but it should at least exist. Asking for the iceberg that sank the >Titanic is like asking for Nero's last fart. It's gone, never to be seen >again. > You haven't done much hunting through Warehouse 23, have you? Josh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 13:30:24 -0300 From: "vez o'rama" Subject: Re: IN> Zapan, Demon Prince of Ice >From: "Brian C. Petery" >Subject: IN> Zapan, Demon Prince of Ice >Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:34:20 -0400 >OK, but it should at least exist. Asking for the iceberg that sank the >Titanic is like asking for Nero's last fart. It's gone, never to be >seen >again. Hrm. Am I doing this wrong? I always assumed invocation modifiers were reference objects... As in, you get the modifer for or for something similar to . I.E., 'a really big iceburg with negative connotations' == 'the iceburg that sank the Titanic' So if I can find a really big iceburg with a checkered past... I get the +6 modifier... :) GM-discretion lets me do this in my little world, but I hadn't realized it wasn't generally done... - - vez p.s. ...wish I had my books with me here at work... :D _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:22:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> The Tether of The Last Unicorn Creepy. And Peter S. Beagle's lawyers will surely contact you soon. };> ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "In film, the director is God. In documentaries, God is the director." - -- Alfred Hitchcock __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:31:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! - --- Josh Moger wrote: > Nah. Definitely Ofanite. I didn't see any Cherub in her > except an ability > to know exactly where the butt is of everyone of the > people under her > command so that she could simultaneously kick them. So true. > Now... whatshisname... the guy... shoot... I forget his > name, I think > Jackson was part of it, but the guy that is basically god > of cities... Jack Hawksmoor. Yeah, he is Cherub material. > Course, then we'd have to make the Doctor a Cherub > attuned to the Marches. Nah, Pagan Sorcerer. > Apollo would be an Ofanite of Gabriel. Agreed. > Midnighter... at first I was going to for a straight > (heh) line to Michael Oh, shame on you! > but I think I'd have him stop at Eli for a quick history > and Malakite > attunement. > Ofanite, who became a Malakite, got the Malakite > attunement, and got > switched to Michael after Eli went on hiatus.* Hmm. I'm tempted to say Soldier of War, myself. > Oh, the Engineer is either a female avatar of Jean, Jean > herself, or a > soldier of Lightning that has been given the niftiest > nanotech that Jean's working on. Soldier of Lightning, definitely. Possibly a White Sorcerer whose Paradigm (forgive my Mage-ism) involves tech. > Swift is an Ofanite of Jordi with an enhanced vessel. Oh, yeah. > Hmm. Think I got them all. Yup. I'll not annoy the list by starting in on WildCATs. 0;> ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "In film, the director is God. In documentaries, God is the director." - -- Alfred Hitchcock __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:32:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Zapan, Demon Prince of Ice - --- Josh Moger wrote: > You haven't done much hunting through Warehouse 23, have > you? Oh, they don't have Nero's last fart (some things are too dangerous for even them to keep around) -- but they do have the lyre. ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "In film, the director is God. In documentaries, God is the director." - -- Alfred Hitchcock __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:34:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Zapan, Demon Prince of Ice - --- vez o'rama wrote: > Hrm. Am I doing this wrong? I always assumed invocation > modifiers were reference objects... Quite so. Something equally rare and equally significant. Thus, you don't need the Lost Monet to get the +6 for Valefor. A lost Picasso would do. ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "In film, the director is God. In documentaries, God is the director." - -- Alfred Hitchcock __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 12:54:57 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! From: "David Edelstein" > > I find him annoying. (Of course I haven't read Sluggy Freelance in > several months.) I think you might find what is currently being done to him amusing - he has the Groundhog's shadow bound to him, and it's making him absolutely miserable. I know that this will end at some point, but seeing him on the receiving end for a change has been rather enjoyable for me. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 14:00:14 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Zapan, Demon Prince of Ice >--- vez o'rama wrote: >> Hrm. Am I doing this wrong? I always assumed invocation >> modifiers were reference objects... > > Quite so. Something equally rare and equally >significant. Thus, you don't need the Lost Monet to get >the +6 for Valefor. A lost Picasso would do. Be careful there. You don't want to make it too easy. Josh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:04:27 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! At 3:20 PM -0500 4/25/02, Earl Wajenberg wrote: >Then there's the occasional cheub that looks like a Mercurian. >Humans are animals, too, after all. Hm. But, in IN, qualitatively different ones. I think Cherubim don't look like Mercurians. (Unless you get Neanderthal ones, which I'm not going to touch with a ten foot barge pole.) The concept is that their form reflects a certain simplicity/streamlining of emotional state. They protect and defend and that's that. Mercurians are close to humans, more able to grasp the nuances, and so their celestial form reflects that... Mind, for one's own campaign... But that'd be one heck of a story about indecision in fledging! O:> - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:05:34 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Zapan, Demon Prince of Ice At 4:32 PM -0500 4/25/02, Prodigal wrote: >From: "Elizabeth McCoy" >> >> Indeed, a +6 invocation modifier should be pretty rare. Valefor's >> is "The Lost Monet!", after all... > >I can't believe I never noticed that! > >Was it a deliberate nod to _Cruel Shoes_, do you know, or is there some >other source that Steve Martin was giving a nod to of which I am unaware? Er.......... I have NOOOOOOOOOO clue. You'd have to check out either the French version (I think that's where most of the invocation mods come from), or Derek's headguts. - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:07:12 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! At 3:43 PM -0700 4/25/02, WonderGecko wrote: >> I figure, if it's an animal and would look good with wings... > >How about flightless birds? >D Sure. Or flighted ones, even. Add wings to taste. O:> >Mmmmn. Peachy. >D I did sit down and doodle up, of all things, a jellyfish >Cherub during biology... Brain...hurts... O:> >> What _is_ a lurcher, though? > >A half-breed or mutt dog with the general lines of a greyhound. :) Ahhhhhhhhh. Okay. - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:14:04 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! \> >>Mmmmn. Peachy. >D I did sit down and doodle up, of all things, a jellyfish >>Cherub during biology... > >Brain...hurts... O:> Just thought about this: Oannes. What would his Cherubim have looked like? Would it have just been their vessels that resembled fish? Mermaid Mercurians? Sea-horse Elohim? Eel Seraphim? School-of-fish Kyriotates? Course, having a giant crab walk over to you, stare at you with it's eye-stalks, lift up a claw, and tap you while saying "You're it," could make for an interesting orphaned Cherub. Josh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:46:37 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> [ADMIN] Check for Viruses! Okay, someone with a faerimuse.com address got a virus spam that had a From field with my ultranet address in it. I'm also getting attempted virus-spams to the list that claim to come from SJGames or other listmember-related sites. This leads me to suspect that the virus has gotten someone's email address book, or even archives, and is slapping in "From" headers based on addresses it steals from there. So everyone here, please check your systems! And, on this thread only, till I say stop, people may offer suggestions as to what websites might offer good anti-virus software. Keep the headerline intact, but lowercase the "Admin" part, 'kay? - --Beth, List Admin http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/listrules.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 21:03:46 +0000 From: "cassandra benner" Subject: IN> Re: [admin] Check for Viruses! >So everyone here, please check your systems! Checked & Clear. >And, on this thread only, till I say stop, people may offer suggestions >as to what websites might offer good anti-virus software. Keep the >headerline intact, but lowercase the "Admin" part, 'kay? http://www.cnet.com Thats a good site for that sort of thing. (and other things) Cas *Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be Evil.* _________________________________________________________________ Join the world s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:13:43 -0500 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> [ADMIN] Check for Viruses! Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > And, on this thread only, till I say stop, people may offer suggestions> as to what websites might offer good anti-virus software. Keep the> headerline intact, but lowercase the "Admin" part, 'kay? Norton and McAfee are the most well-known and generally considered to be pretty good. And anyone who doesn't run an AV program and/or a firewall on their machine has no business connecting to the Internet. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:36:42 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Zapan, Demon Prince of Ice From: "Elizabeth McCoy" > > Er.......... I have NOOOOOOOOOO clue. You'd have to check out either the > French version (I think that's where most of the invocation mods come > from), or Derek's headguts. Just curious - one of the stories in the book I mentioned ends with "My god! The lost Monet!" So that was what I flashed back to when reading your message from upthread. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 15:13:59 -0700 From: WonderGecko Subject: Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! On 26.04.2002 5:51 AM, "Michael Walton" wrote: > --- WonderGecko wrote: >> Now, if she's a Cherub who fledged while there were still >> icthyosaurs on the >> Earth, that leads to some very bizarre possibilities for >> Cherubim who were >> around for the Cambrian explosion. Can you imagine an >> Opabinia regalis Cherub? > > !!! Another paleontology buff! Frabjous day! *grins!* For a while back there in my elementary school education, I was going to be a paleontologist when I grow up. Now it's a bioengineer, but I still love paleontology. > >> Although, given the propensity most of the >> Burgess shale critters >> have for causing nightmares, they might be better off as >> Djinn > > So where would you place a celestial with a > Hallucinogenia form? And I'd love to see your rendition of > a Cherub as a feather-winged Anomalocaris... I have a soft spot for Hallucigenia; primarily because the little things are ancestors to modern-day onychophorans, and I have a *very* big soft spot for onychophorans...given the /name/ of the genus, whoever it was would /have/ to be a Servitor of Dreams or Nightmares. Just for propriety, you know. Probably nightmares, in my opinion, but you can never tell with these things... ...Might the collective belief of the improper reconstruction of Hallucigenia have created an ethereal or two that look like upside-down Hallucigenia? >) Similarly, it would be interesting to consider any other mistaken reproductions of ancient animals that might've spawned short-lived ethereals...hmnhmn... A feather-winged Anomalocaris, huh? Will give it a go. :) Any suggestion for anything else I should try? ;) - --Kim, Angel of Random Enthusiasm With Lysimachus, Cherub Angel of Psychopomps. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 17:03:06 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: RE: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! At 11:16 PM -0400 4/25/02, Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW) wrote: >-----Original Message----- >From: Elizabeth McCoy [mailto:emccoy@nh.ultranet.com] > >>I do figure that _most_ Cherubim are predators -- but if it looks good and >>impressive... Elk are good! Pegasus may have been inspired by an equine >>Cherub. And the concept of Bunbun with wings and a halo makes my brain >>hurt... >I'd like to consider a Sphinx as a Cherubform, but I suppose it's so far >outfield that it's anti-cannoical. Yes and no. In a previous draft which had ethereal forms, Cherubim had half-human, half animal forms, such as Sphinxes, Centaurs, etc... >Oh... and what's a Bunbun? I'm sure someone else has answered this... - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 17:09:04 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> The Tether of The Last Unicorn This is twisted and evil and wicked and I should be so anguished (I collect the little one-horned critters, see), but I can't stop giggling... - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 15:29:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! - --- WonderGecko wrote: > I have a soft spot for Hallucigenia; primarily because > the little things are > ancestors to modern-day onychophorans, and I have a > *very* big soft spot for > onychophorans... Soft spot... onychophorans... no, too easy... > given the /name/ of the genus, whoever it > was would /have/ > to be a Servitor of Dreams or Nightmares. Just for > propriety, you know. Or it could be something Kobal -- as the Angel of Laughter -- cooked up just to confuse anyone who tried to study the little critters later. Of course, Eli had to trump him by talking Jordi into creating the platypus. > ...Might the collective belief of the improper > reconstruction of > Hallucigenia have created an ethereal or two that look > like upside-down > Hallucigenia? >) Similarly, it would be interesting to > consider any other > mistaken reproductions of ancient animals that might've > spawned short-lived ethereals...hmnhmn... That's why there are brontosauruses in the Marches. 0;> > A feather-winged Anomalocaris, huh? Will give it a go. :) > Any suggestion for anything else I should try? I'll wait to see how the supershrimp turns out first. 0:> ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "In film, the director is God. In documentaries, God is the director." - -- Alfred Hitchcock __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 18:54:23 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: IN> The Lanceolate Leaf, pt. I Laurence, leader of the Seraphim Council, focused on Salem, Angel of Cities, giving her annual report to the Seraphim Council. Slums were ripe for all manner of demonic Tether, of course, but one to Beleth? More subtle than her usual style... he considered as he listened. The Commander General of the Host spoke with one of the bodhisattvas, resonating as he did so, probing for the reasons behind his request to become a Saint. He had always been a fine teacher, and could make a good Saint if his purpose was clear enough. The Archangel of the Sword spared a bit of energy to respond to an Invocation from a servant on Earth, deciding not to make a full-blown arrival, since the question was clarification of orders rather than anything dangerous. The elderly Brother Laurence slowly padded through the halls of the monastery on his way back from Matins, trailing his younger brethren on the way back to their beds. A quiet night. Quiet enough to hear the whispers on the sidewalk outside. He stopped and listened. "Keep it down, will you? They'll hear us!" "It's midnight, who's gonna hear us? A church doesn't have security guards!" "Don't know much about monks and their schedules, do you? Just shut up already -- okay, here's the door. They probably keep the gold stuff in storage behind the main room." Teenagers. Males, probably three from their footsteps, though only two had spoken so far. They were trying to pick the heavy lock on the side door of the monks' residential areas. Not Magpies, then, and from the shades of uncertainty in their voices, almost certainly human. He paused on the inner side of the door and considered his options. It would be trivially easy to put the fear of God into them -- they surely were not expecting to open that door and find a grinning, armored man with a sword on the other side of it, waiting to give them all an appropriate hiding for their temerity. However, that would be quite a flagrant violation of Role, and while the Symphony might allow a Servitor a bit of leeway in maintaining even the best of Roles, an Archangel was honor-bound to hold himself to a higher standard. He could have another instantiation call for a few troops to do the same, but that again would be accessing help that Brother Laurence would not have. No, best to deal with this as a simple monk. He had faced trouble before without calling for backup. He paused in front of the door, put his hands in the sleeves of his robe as an old man would do to keep them warm, and waited with a small smile. In a few minutes, they managed to open the door. The one in front, who had picked the lock, looked up and managed to get out a loud "Holy --" before the second one, a taller young man with an ear piercing, clapped a hand over his mouth. The third one in back, a younger lad with a suburban look to him, stared at Laurence in shock. "Good morning, boys," he said. "I could have opened the door, if you had but knocked." "He's a guard?" said the kid in back. "No, doofus," said the tallest one, "he's just an old monk. He's not gonna hurt anyone. He's the one that's gonna get hurt, if he tries anything stupid... like yelling. Understand, old man?" He released his lockpicking compatriot, who wiped off his mouth with a disgusted look and put away his tool. "Now why would I want to do anything stupid?" asked Laurence. "There's no call for anyone to do anything rash." The tall one with the ear stud pulled out a knife. "Take us to the gold. The crosses, the chalices, all that sh*t." Laurence frowned. "Poor language, my son. Especially in the same sentence as 'crosse-' uh!" The leader of the little group had clipped him across the ear. "Shut. Up. And take us to the valuables." Laurence hesitated, resonating the three of them. The tall one had as little sense of honor as he had seen in a human for a long time. He would not hesitate to kill this old Vessel. The youngest one defined honor in terms of his superiors; filling this role at the moment was the tall thief, supported by previous adulation shown by the lockpicker. The lockpicker with the blond hair was confused about such things, but would do as he was told. "Very well," said Laurence. "This way." A knife was pressed to his throat, then hidden behind him. "No tricks, old man." "No tricks." Laurence led the three of them through the back ways of the monastery, avoiding the sleeping Brothers' cells; other humans would complicate things at the moment, and possibly lead to trouble he would find it problematic to solve without breaking Role. After a short trip, lengthened by the insistence of the boys on peeking around every corner to look for ambushers, they arrived at a choir practice room. Laurence entered and stood before an oversized hymnal on a low display table, surrounded by risers and chairs. "Here. The greatest treasure in this Church lies before you." The tall one and the youngest were incredulous, looking around for the expected gold-plated paraphernalia. The middle lad was a little more intelligent than the other two, and eyed the old hymnal appraisingly. "What the hell did I tell you?" said the tall one. "I said no tricks. There isn't anything here!" "Dude," said the middle boy, "I think maybe it's the book. It could be antique, maybe worth a lot of money." "The book? The *book*??" Their leader strode over to the hymnal and glared at it. He looked up at Laurence. "This worth money?" "Very little. But it is nevertheless the most valuable object in this place, that I know of." No lie, either. Laurence considered himself to have been miraculously privileged to be there on the day when the Choir had sung the hymnal into a new existence, their sheer human worship and love focusing on the great hymnal they all shared, turning it into a holy artifact. The boys knew nothing of this, of course. Angered, the tall one drew his knife, then put it back. "Grab him," he ordered his friends -- lackeys, now. They hesitated, but he asserted his authority. "Grab him!" They did so, one holding each arm. He himself went over and closed the door. "I noticed these walls have soundproofing on them, you old fart. Not so smart now, are you?" He grabbed a music stand and threw the loose top off of it, walking back over to the hymnal. "See your stupid book?" He used the stand's stem to bash the book and its pedestal off the table, leaving it bare. Fortunately, the book was not damaged. "Bend him over." He hefted the stand as the two boys led Brother Laurence's old Vessel over to the table and pressed him down. "You gonna lead us to the stuff, or not?" Laurence bowed his head. "I will not help you rob this place. It is my home. It is a place of-" he gritted his teeth as the stem crashed down on his back. The tall one looked at him in surprise. "Tough old bastard, aren't you? We'll fix that." He raised his weapon again, ready to strike harder. Laurence's Archangelic toughness was not helping here; it was only fueling the young man to greater brutality. In the fraction of a second between raise and drop, he let some of his self slip away from the shell it was inhabiting, leaving the old body as frail as it looked. Round metal rod on flesh covered by cloth is deceptively quiet. Pain such as Laurence had rarely known flashed through his awareness at the slight *thump*, and he let himself cry out. The Wrath of God screamed in him to stop this evil. Take up your blade, cut it out of the Symphony, do not let it infect others... *thump* Focus. Maintain discipline. The sword is not your weapon here. Defeat the evil with the tools at hand... *thump**crack* A rib had snapped. This Vessel would die soon if he let it. He was preparing a replacement elsewhere, but was only ten years old there. Preserve the Role. Use the tools at hand... *thump* A slight shifting in the Symphony sang about him. No, not sang... crackled. A tiny motion. It would never become a full-fledged Tether, but the potential was building for a Tether. To Nightmares. But surely it was not for Laurence, a celestial, who was not afraid anyway. It must be coming from one of the humans in the room. A moment's Disturbance would shatter it, do it, you have an excuse... no. At hand. It was surely not the human administering the beating that was the source of the nascent Tether. Laurence reached into his awareness and used the Elohite resonance on the two humans holding his hands and arms down. The young one on his left was afraid of being caught, of what the older one would do if he let go. Selfish fear. The one of the right had some of the same, mixed with fear for his future. Selfish fear, fueling the forming Tether. *thump* How did one fight Nightmares? If he suddenly rose up and tried to punish the boys now, he might very well push the Tether into firmer existence and get it noticed. His weapon would have to be, then, his vulnerability. Combat fear. We must calm their fears. Calm.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 15:55:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Watson Subject: Re: IN> [admin] Check for Viruses! > And, on this thread only, till I say stop, people may offer suggestions > as to what websites might offer good anti-virus software. Keep the > headerline intact, but lowercase the "Admin" part, 'kay? I use AVG at home. Its free, which fits my budget nicely. Its ICSA certified, so you know its effective. The signature files are regularly updated, and downloaded seemlessly. I also find its pretty fast. For people who use Outlook, it checks your email, too. http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_index.htm Take care, Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:12:58 -0700 From: WonderGecko Subject: Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! On 26.04.2002 3:29 PM, "Michael Walton" wrote: > > Soft spot... onychophorans... no, too easy... ...Pun intended. *hopes no one tries a Seraphic resonance on her* > Or it could be something Kobal -- as the Angel of > Laughter -- cooked up just to confuse anyone who tried to > study the little critters later. Of course, Eli had to > trump him by talking Jordi into creating the platypus.\ *chortles wildly* Ohhh, yessss...yesss, I could see that indeed... > That's why there are brontosauruses in the Marches. 0;> Oh, lovely! >D > >> A feather-winged Anomalocaris, huh? Will give it a go. :) >> Any suggestion for anything else I should try? > > I'll wait to see how the supershrimp turns out first. 0:> Will do. I am on the coloring stage of the icthyosaur, so I might show her off, as well. :) Oh! Any particular species of Anomalocaris, or may I choose? (I'm rather fond of A. saron...) - --Kim, Angel of Random Enthusiasm Who has finally found herself a Malakite of Random Enthusiasm, as scary as that sounds. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 20:21:15 -0400 From: Mike Bruner Subject: Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! At 04:04 PM 4/26/02 -0400, you wrote: >At 3:20 PM -0500 4/25/02, Earl Wajenberg wrote: > >Then there's the occasional cheub that looks like a Mercurian. > >Humans are animals, too, after all. > >Hm. But, in IN, qualitatively different ones. I think Cherubim don't look >like Mercurians. (Unless you get Neanderthal ones, which I'm not going to >touch with a ten foot barge pole.) The concept is that their form reflects >a certain simplicity/streamlining of emotional state. They protect and >defend and that's that. Mercurians are close to humans, more able to grasp >the nuances, and so their celestial form reflects that... > >Mind, for one's own campaign... But that'd be one heck of a story about >indecision in fledging! Or the ultimate Hellsworn horror story ("Hah, can't hurt me, can you, you stupid Mercurian!" "Wrong!" *snap* *crackle* *crunch* :)). - -- Mike Bruner-- mbruner18@comcast.net Give a hobbit a fish and he eats fish for a day. Give a hobbit a ring and he eats fish for an age. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 00:27:23 +0000 From: "R L" Subject: Re: IN> [admin] Check for Viruses! Checked and cleared. Ron _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 20:22:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> I must ask... - --- Whistling in the Dark wrote: > >Not any more than the rest of us. Hell, last year > Moe spent five > >months basing IN elements on bits from the 2001 > calendar... > > I have every confidence Moe will pick up those other > seven months one > of these days... it's just his way, you know? Just waiting for the stars to be right again, me. Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/13/02(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 20:23:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> The Tether of The Last Unicorn - --- Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > This is twisted and evil and wicked and I should be > so anguished (I collect > the little one-horned critters, see), but I can't > stop giggling... I'm tempted to comment, but we all know how I feel about unicorns... ;) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/13/02(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 23:35:40 -0400 From: "Patrick None" Subject: Re: IN> Zapan, Demon Prince of Ice > > So if I can find a really big iceburg with a checkered past... I get the +6 > modifier... :) > > GM-discretion lets me do this in my little world, but I hadn't realized it > wasn't generally done... > > - vez "Yeah, cap'in, we picked the low life up around the north side, cruising with his 'pals.' We think they were looking to pick some low pressure fronts, and you know how the local women's league complains if we let their kids head into a temperate zone..." -from the Wild Ones, a 1950s pamphlet regarding the dangers of tide abuse amongst teenage icebergs _patrick ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 03:44:17 -0400 From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Subject: RE: IN> The Tether of The Last Unicorn - -----Original Message----- From: james walker [mailto:jdwalker@cybermac.com.au] Inspired by the "Seneschal Question" Thread: The Last Unicorn was conceived during the Purity Crusade - an Ethereal Unicorn used The Ethereal Song of Fruition on a mare. Surviving the Crusade allowed the Last Unicorn to become a Tether to Dreams, as humans remembered what had once been. As the Unicorn was unable to breed, Dominic ruled that the creature could be safely left alive, and authorised the Seneschal to extend the beast's life via the Corporeal Song of Entropy. Of course, the Tsayadim had different ideas, and hunted down the Unicorn and killed it. Heaven swiftly hunted down and punished the Tsayadim responsible, but it was too late for the Seneschal, who had been reduced to a Remnant. It might have ended there, but for Saminga. He's never been happy with the existence of Living Tethers - sure, it's fun to kill them, but their existence annoys him. So when one of his Servitors Invoked him to show him the zombified Unicorn, he was overjoyed, granting the Servitor a Distinction and recommending him to Lucifer as Demonic Seneschal. **** No need to repeat any more of the excellent idea. I'm just thinking of setting a group of PCs up with this one. Some how they find out what they need is held at the Tether of the Last Unicorn; how worried are they going to be? Oh, a Unicorn. Everything will be nice and flowery and them BAM! They hit this wall. Evil, mean and nasty. Thank you very much! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 04:10:10 -0400 From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Subject: IN>Impossible Invocation Modifiers - -----Original Message----- From: Brian C. Petery [mailto:bpetery@bellatlantic.net] >>>+6: the iceberg that sank the Titanic >>The iceberg that sank the Titanic?!?! It melted last millenium! Unless you >>mean the dream-etherial version... >An invocation modifier doesn't necessarily have to be easy to find. >- -EDG OK, but it should at least exist. Asking for the iceberg that sank the Titanic is like asking for Nero's last fart. It's gone, never to be seen again. Yours in Triviality, BC Petery Unless you consider it like Caeser's Last Gasp. Been too long since high school, but I remember someone in a science class talking about lung capacity and dispersal or somesuch and using this as an example. Since air is finite and simply changes from O2 to CO2 as people breathe in and out that due to dispersal, every person on earth has at least one molecule of air that Caesar exhaled as he died. So while Nero's last fart might be damn hard to collect, it's out there somewhere for a servant with a lot of patience and the ability to collect things on an atomic scale. Now as far as the iceberg goes... you've gotta find a way to re-freeze the SOB. DS1 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 12:38:12 -0400 From: "Brian C. Petery" Subject: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! >that leads to some very bizarre possibilities for Cherubim who were >around for the Cambrian explosion. This reminds me of the recent threads about Tether/Word/Seneschal lifespans. While celestials are theoretically immortal there must be a certain attrition. The casualty rate of the Fall and The War could probably be indicated by the number of extinct-animal Cherubim still around. Unless your Word is for an animal that went extinct. THe Word of Dinosaurs. (You'd need a second one, the first would have died out with its charges.) The Word of Passenger Pigeons. The Word of Dodo. (Of course the word Dodo is still in circulation, but it's hardly flattering. Could a change in a Word's use cause a Fall? Jeez, no wonder Jordi's so pissed.) The creation of a modern Cherub/Djinn based on an extinct species seems odd. Unless they were working for the holder of the Word of Dinosaurs. (Dinosaurs must work for Nybbas. How many "Land Before Time" movies are there? Seven?) Lilim, OTOH, may assume a celestial form that resembles their Vessel. T-Rex with little tiny horns to match the little tiny arms. Doodle Doodle Dee, Wubba Wubba Wubba, BC Petery http://www15.brinkster.com/ugwump/ ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2615 ********************************