in_nomine-digest Tuesday, April 30 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2618 In this digest: IN> stupid mercurian question Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! IN> Re: Celestial Forms IN> Hrm. Cannonical problem thingy, and solution IN> Anomalocaris Cherub. IN> New Malakite of the Wind Attunement Re: IN> New Malakite of the Wind Attunement Re: IN> The Lanceolate Leaf, pt. II IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2612 Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! Re: IN> Hrm. Cannonical problem thingy, and solution Re: IN> New Malakite of the Wind Attunement Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! Re: IN> Hrm. Cannonical problem thingy, and solution Re: IN> Anomalocaris Cherub. Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! [none] IN> Zombie Attacks!! IN> Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! Re: IN> stupid mercurian question IN> Minor Choir (Re: Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim!) Re: IN> Anomalocaris Cherub. Fwd: RE: Re: IN> Dissonance Re: IN> Anomalocaris Cherub. Re: IN> Zombie Attacks!! IN> Saint of the Gates of Heaven ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:25:35 -0700 From: "None None" Subject: IN> stupid mercurian question As long as I'm asking, can someone tell me the exact information meant by the "relations" via the Mercurians core resonance? If you can tell what someones relations are in life (no book with me, like when you roll 4 or 5) do you get the names of those important people? Their status? And, one more dumb question, actually. In Canon, does a resonance pick up a Role or the actual celestial? Anyways. thanks! Patrick _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 19:07:48 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! >>Hmmmm... Considering that the vessel-form can be used in Heaven, at the >>exact-same-time as the normalform (you see both at once; these are not >>bound by corporeal light physics > >It can? I thought the only celestials who could use vessel forms in Heaven >(or Hell) were Archangels (or Princes). >I can see several good uses for this in Heaven, like helping to acclimatize >bewildered newly-arrived humans, or bad uses for this in Hell, like fooling >humans, providing entertainment for demons, etc. > >And what about Kyriotates? (Or Shedim?) > >Janet Only Superiors can use them *exclusively*, i.e., you can't see anything else. For all other celestials, the Choir or Band is clear, and cannot be hidden. The Vesselform is simply "overlaid" for recognizeability's sake, or occasionally for those useful hands. I'd imagine Servitors of Lust, for example, use vessel forms quite a lot, since celestial forms are genderless. William ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 01:43:27 +0100 From: Sam Kington Subject: Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! Janet Anderson wrote: [...] > I can see several good uses for this in Heaven, like helping to acclimatize > bewildered newly-arrived humans Something I came up on a random whim ages ago - one of those instant ideas that make GMing so much *fun*. When Christian souls arrive, they meet St Peter. What they don't know, of course, is that St Peter is whichever Mercurian who is on St Peter Duty that day. They get told eventually, of course. And it helps that St Peter is a title as *well* as a name, in Heaven, which gives the Mercurians a bit of lee-way as far as not lying *per se*. Better, to my mind, that random human souls being confronted with a SIX EYED SERPENT WITH WINGS! Which I think would be their reaction. Incidentally, if this sort of thing did happen, I think you'd need to be able to cover other religions. Which means a) you'll have some angels able to know the religious affiliation of blessed souls when they arrive, and b) you have celestial forms that look like these people are expecting. I think we have a Minor Choir ready to be written up. Sam - -- Home page: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/ In Nomine Cookbook: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/innomine/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:43:03 +1000 From: "james walker" Subject: IN> Re: Celestial Forms > (with sidekick ophanim, who, by the way, > have eyes on their rims). a wheel with eyes - a disk with windows: how many "UFO sightings" would actually be someone glimpsing an Ofanite screaming along in Celestial form? Given that part of the Ofanite resonance can only be used while Celestial, it's not surprising that they're spotted more often than any other band or choir. Cheers, James. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 21:13:10 -0700 (PDT) From: W S Subject: IN> Hrm. Cannonical problem thingy, and solution Here's the solution. The problem is at the bottom of the letter, as it's rather long and silly digresive. Know Potential Forces By spending 2 Essence daily and studying a mortal in action for at least a week, a Celestial with this Attunment knows if the mortal has reached their maximum Forces. This Attunment is available to every Word on both sides of the War (as well as to a number of Ethereals), although it is usally only given to Servitors who earned their first Distinction, or for those who are specifically out recruiting on Earth. Here's the problem. Most humans can't handle six forces. Adding more forces than folks can handle makes them do a Roman Candle imitation. Killing people is Loud. Killing the human means one less useful servant. The human will die most of the time. Why do we add forces again? Quite apart from any angelic angst, it seems wasteful and silly. And there's so few ways to tell- the only one I know of is Eli's Seraphim attunment, and that only on a CD of 6- when specifically /looking/ for potential forces. Again, seems rather silly and wasteful. It also doesn't seem to happen very often, although I get the impression that adding a force to someone in the process of making them a Soldier is at least as common as finding or forcing a human to gain the sixth on their own. Superiors hate having their time wasted. And being called for human Roman Candle making (Except Saminga, maybe). Therefore, they should have come up with some way to detect if a human has reached their potential maximum. And then let their Servitors do it. Ta-da. :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 22:05:55 -0700 From: WonderGecko Subject: IN> Anomalocaris Cherub. http://www.side7.com/cgi-bin/S7SDB/DisplayImg.pl?INO=134383 Boom, baby. I decided that, due to the nature of his/her Celestial form, s/he would need to belong to Litheroy and ... Yeah, it's on the picture. :D Should fill my Side7 with more fanart goodies, really...I have several Seraphim lying around in my art folders I could put up. Any names? Tara, Malakite of Random Enthusiasm, says he needs to be Jesiah. :D - --Kim, Angel of Random Enthusiasm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 22:59:44 -0700 From: "Phillip DesJardins" Subject: IN> New Malakite of the Wind Attunement This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C1EFD1.8D75DE80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was looking at the Malakite of Janus attunement and to be honest I = found it a bit lacking. Partly because it felt somewhat forced, but = mainly because I don't think that any Superiors except Vapula or Jean = would bother with anything so blatantly technocentric, and even Jean = would have some of his older Attunments floating around (old doesn't = mean obsolete). I see most Superiors taking a 'I've been giving this = out for millenia now, I don't see any reason to change it just because = humanity/the monkeys discovered something new' stance. With this in mind I came up with what I thought was a decent = attunement to replace Janus' Malakite attunement: When a Malakite = resonates on a subject, they know whether or not the behavior they learn = about is an established pattern of behavior, and at least one thing that = would need to change in order for this pattern to be broken if it's = selfish behavior, or what would need to happen to establish a pattern = from noble acts that aren't habitual. I see Janus' Malakim as direct = agents of change, forcing people to alter their lifestyles (hopefully = for the better). Phillip, Mercurian of Novalis The Happy Shiny Mercurian "The World needs a hug." (Or is that Needs?) - ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C1EFD1.8D75DE80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was looking at the = Malakite of=20 Janus attunement and to be honest I found it a bit lacking. Partly = because=20 it felt somewhat forced, but mainly because I don't think that any = Superiors=20 except Vapula or Jean would bother with anything so blatantly = technocentric, and=20 even Jean would have some of his older Attunments floating around (old = doesn't=20 mean obsolete). I see most Superiors taking a 'I've been giving = this out=20 for millenia now, I don't see any reason to change it just because = humanity/the=20 monkeys discovered something new' stance. With this in mind I = came up with=20 what I thought was a decent attunement to replace Janus' Malakite=20 attunement: When a Malakite resonates on a subject, they know = whether=20 or not the behavior they learn about is an established pattern of = behavior, and=20 at least one thing that would need to change in order for this pattern = to be=20 broken if it's selfish behavior, or what would need to happen to = establish a=20 pattern from noble acts that aren't habitual. I see Janus' Malakim = as=20 direct agents of change, forcing people to alter their lifestyles = (hopefully for=20 the better). Phillip, Mercurian of = Novalis The Happy Shiny Mercurian "The World needs a hug." (Or is that = Needs?) - ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C1EFD1.8D75DE80-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:11:11 -0700 From: "Phillip DesJardins" Subject: Re: IN> New Malakite of the Wind Attunement Sorry that got put in HTML, my email program keeps slipping back into Rich Text and it doesn't want to accept plain text as a default. Phillip, Mercurian of Novalis The Happy Shiny Mercurian "The World needs a hug." (Or is that Needs?) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 00:01:59 -0700 From: "Phillip DesJardins" Subject: Re: IN> The Lanceolate Leaf, pt. II Okay, this was so infinitely cool. I think Laurence would definately go for this idea; after all, fighting this War involves much more than just combat. Phillip, Mercurian of Novalis The Happy Shiny Mercurian "The World needs a hug." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:06:26 +0300 (EEST) From: Mervi.Hamalainen@uta.fi Subject: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2612 > From: "Brian C. Petery" > Subject: IN> Picking up trouble > > >*speechless* > > Now remember, MacNorma (Free Lilim) is the current wielder. And she > managed > to schnur the Scabbard attunement out of Laurence by giving him reason > to feel more secure about being a Malakite. > > > I can't think of a clever tagline, > > BC Petery > http://www15.brinkster.com/ugwump/ How? Please, tell me. Mervi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 05:38:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! - --- Sam Kington wrote: > When Christian souls arrive, they meet St Peter. What > they don't know, of > course, is that St Peter is whichever Mercurian who is on > St Peter Duty that > day. They get told eventually, of course. And it helps > that St Peter is a > title as *well* as a name, in Heaven, which gives the > Mercurians a bit of > lee-way as far as not lying *per se*. This is absolutely brilliant! Consider it shamelessly plagiarized. ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "In film, the director is God. In documentaries, God is the director." - -- Alfred Hitchcock __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 05:40:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Hrm. Cannonical problem thingy, and solution - --- W S wrote: > Know Potential Forces The one problem that I see with this is that it would make Soldiers a lot more common unless you assume that the potential for extra Forces is that much more rare. ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "In film, the director is God. In documentaries, God is the director." - -- Alfred Hitchcock __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 05:45:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> New Malakite of the Wind Attunement - --- Phillip DesJardins wrote: > When a Malakite resonates on a subject, they know whether > or not the behavior they learn about is an established > pattern of behavior Seems reasonable. > and at least one thing that would > need to change in order for this pattern to be broken if > it's selfish behavior, or what would need to happen to > establish a pattern from noble acts that aren't habitual. I would make this part require a separate Perception roll. ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "In film, the director is God. In documentaries, God is the director." - -- Alfred Hitchcock __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:57:38 -0400 From: "Patrick None" Subject: Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! I'm a little freaked out by a Heaven where the first thing humans get is a half truth. I mean, they don't need to hear angels arguing, but to flat out lie - not *per se*, but semantically lying. Especially since said Mercurian knows that the recipient of the statement doesn't believe that "st. Peter" is a member of the category "title," but "name." of course, I like the idea where a human soul will happily spend eternity standing at the gates by a 100 ft winged Serpent, mindlessly shaking hands and saying hello. It gives the Demons a little more bit when they complain about heaven. Regards Patrick > > When Christian souls arrive, they meet St Peter. What > > they don't know, of > > course, is that St Peter is whichever Mercurian who is on > > St Peter Duty that > > day. They get told eventually, of course. And it helps > > that St Peter is a > > title as *well* as a name, in Heaven, which gives the > > Mercurians a bit of > > lee-way as far as not lying *per se*. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 06:11:53 -0700 (PDT) From: W S Subject: Re: IN> Hrm. Cannonical problem thingy, and solution - --- Michael Walton wrote: > --- W S wrote: > > Know Potential Forces > > The one problem that I see with this is that it > would > make Soldiers a lot more common unless you assume > that the > potential for extra Forces is that much more rare. Hmm... true. But, honestly, I think it'd be worth it. Just put your population of potential soldiers at about half population of celestials-on-Earth, and it works out about right. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:25:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Anomalocaris Cherub. - --- WonderGecko wrote: > http://www.side7.com/cgi-bin/S7SDB/DisplayImg.pl?INO=134383 > Boom, baby. That should be, "Bang, baby." (OK, I admit that I like Static). Alas, I can't get the thing to load. A problem with frames, I suspect (*#@$% no-frames browser...). ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "In film, the director is God. In documentaries, God is the director." - -- Alfred Hitchcock __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:29:53 -0700 From: "Phillip DesJardins" Subject: Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! > Better, to my mind, that random human souls being confronted with a SIX EYED > SERPENT WITH WINGS! You forget that angelic celestial forms are definitively beautiful. It doesn't matter that humans would intellectually realise that a six-eyed six-winged serpent is kinda creepy, they would e awed seeing a Seraph for the first time. Other than that it's an amusing idea. Phillip, Mercurian of Novalis The Happy Shiny Mercurian "The world needs a hug." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:52:52 +0000 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: [none] http://loris.net/zombie/index.html oooooooo ... Saminga is gunna be pissed that the secret it out! - -Perry perrylloyd@hotmail.com pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu http://www.geocities.com/perrylloyd/ "And that's the hardest thing for a human being to do - be wrong. Do you know that people would rather die than be wrong?" - --from A Matter For Men by David Gerrold _________________________________________________________________ T鬩chargez MSN Explorer gratuitement ࠬ'adresse http://explorer.msn.fr/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:53:05 +0000 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: IN> Zombie Attacks!! http://loris.net/zombie/index.html oooooooo ... Saminga is gunna be pissed that the secret it out! - -Perry perrylloyd@hotmail.com pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu http://www.geocities.com/perrylloyd/ "And that's the hardest thing for a human being to do - be wrong. Do you know that people would rather die than be wrong?" - --from A Matter For Men by David Gerrold _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos est le moyen le plus simple de partager et d'imprimer vos photos : http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 18:57:05 +0000 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: IN> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 12:30:58 -0600 From: "Wade Lahoda" Subject: Re: IN> Wild West > Sam Hate >just wouldn't be content in the In Nomine universe unless he were an >Angel/Demon/Hellsworn/Soldier of God/Saint/Ethereal/Remnant/Mummy. erm, you forgot Sorceror ... sorry? - -Perry perrylloyd@hotmail.com pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu http://www.geocities.com/perrylloyd/ "And that's the hardest thing for a human being to do - be wrong. Do you know that people would rather die than be wrong?" - --from A Matter For Men by David Gerrold _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos est le moyen le plus simple de partager et d'imprimer vos photos : http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:44:41 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim! At 8:24 PM +0000 4/29/02, Janet Anderson wrote: >>Hmmmm... Considering that the vessel-form can be used in Heaven, at the >>exact-same-time as the normalform (you see both at once; these are not >>bound by corporeal light physics > >It can? I thought the only celestials who could use vessel forms in Heaven >(or Hell) were Archangels (or Princes). Well, you see both at once. Only Superiors can -- if they wish -- project _only_ their vesselforms. Think of it as seeing a tall, slender guy with one eye, and a long, six-eyed snake with the other... >I can see several good uses for this in Heaven, like helping to acclimatize >bewildered newly-arrived humans, or bad uses for this in Hell, like fooling >humans, providing entertainment for demons, etc. A non-Superior can't fool anyone with half a brain. Maybe one eye is seeing a human form, but the other is seeing a Balseraph... O:> >And what about Kyriotates? (Or Shedim?) The ones who can have vessels, sure. But there's still a Kyriotate there in the other eye. (Most Kyrios probably don't bother. Why restrict themselves to two eyes, two hands, and two feet? Likewise, a Malakite or Mercurian or Elohite is going to be unlikely to see the point of trying to 'blank' the wings out of their manifestation. Especially since it doesn't really blank it anyway.) - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:54:23 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> stupid mercurian question At 3:25 PM -0700 4/29/02, None None wrote: > As long as I'm asking, can someone tell me the exact information meant by >the "relations" via the Mercurians core resonance? If you can tell what >someones relations are in life (no book with me, like when you roll 4 or 5) >do you get the names of those important people? Their status? Their status -- you don't get, "His wife is X," you get, "He has a wife, three kids, and a boss (whom he is on good terms with), but is being blackmailed by someone in the office. He also has three good sailing- buddies." Roughly. >And, one more dumb question, actually. In Canon, does a resonance pick up a >Role or the actual celestial? Glarg.... I need a new FAQ-keeper. This one ALWAYS comes up... It's a tricky one. Many people require a Role-roll, as if for disturbance, to see if the Role will supply the primary information. Some require that the resonance check digit exceed the Role check digit. Resonances tend to pick up Shedim over the host, though. (Though one could always have a 'relationship' of 'the entity in this guy's brain...' O:> ) Have I covered everything? - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:58:15 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> Minor Choir (Re: Okay, a PERTINENT question now...Cherubim!) At 1:43 AM +0100 4/30/02, Sam Kington wrote: >Incidentally, if this sort of thing did happen, I think you'd need to be >able to cover other religions. Which means a) you'll have some angels able >to know the religious affiliation of blessed souls when they arrive, and b) >you have celestial forms that look like these people are expecting. I think >we have a Minor Choir ready to be written up. IIRC, Shepherds, from Heaven & Hell? (Why, I do recall correctly. P. 66, the Shepherds.) - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:35:40 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Anomalocaris Cherub. At 8:25 AM -0700 4/30/02, Michael Walton wrote: > Alas, I can't get the thing to load. A problem with >frames, I suspect (*#@$% no-frames browser...). I don't think it has frames... At least, Netscape doesn't indicate any. Try http://www.side7.com/cgi-bin/S7SDB/Archive.pl?ANO=4742 ? It's a real slow site, though, at the moment (if no other time). It may just be timing you out somehow. O:< - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:24:20 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Fwd: RE: Re: IN> Dissonance >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 05:28:46 -0600 >From: thorrbjorn93 >Subject: RE: Re: IN> Dissonance >To: owner-in_nomine-l@lists.io.com > >> Neither Nybbas nor the Symphony >> cares about word counts. > >Oh, I don't know ... The idea that a demon prince would use metrics to >manage his underlings seems to me to be rather appropriate :)> > >Take care, >Paul > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:33:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Anomalocaris Cherub. - --- Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > It's a real slow site, though, at the moment (if no other > time). It may just be timing you out somehow. O:< Got it on the sixth (!) try. Thanks. ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "In film, the director is God. In documentaries, God is the director." - -- Alfred Hitchcock __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 13:56:56 -0800 From: "Brian Rogers" Subject: Re: IN> Zombie Attacks!! Why would zombies bother to attack when they have this? http://www.brains4zombies.com/ Rev. Brian - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Perry Lloyd" Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:53:05 +0000 To: earlhamgamers@yahoogroups.com, egl-l@earlham.edu, in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Subject: IN> Zombie Attacks!! > http://loris.net/zombie/index.html > > oooooooo ... > Saminga is gunna be pissed that the secret it out! > > > -Perry > > perrylloyd@hotmail.com > pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu > http://www.geocities.com/perrylloyd/ > > "And that's the hardest thing for a human being to do - be wrong. Do you > know that people would rather die than be wrong?" > --from A Matter For Men > by David Gerrold > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos est le moyen le plus simple de partager et d'imprimer vos photos > : http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > - -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 09:53:41 +1000 From: "Shane" Subject: IN> Saint of the Gates of Heaven On 30 Apr 2002, 8:57, Patrick None wrote: > of course, I like the idea where a human soul will happily spend eternity > standing at the gates by a 100 ft winged Serpent, mindlessly shaking hands > and saying hello. It gives the Demons a little more bit when they > complain about heaven. I now have this image of St. Peter, Saint of the Gates of Heaven, a Wordbound Human (!) with Yves's /Master of Divine Knowledge/ Destiny Attunement (Kyriotate, so that he can be gatekeeper full-time yet still do his own thing elsewhere on Heaven and if need be Earth). I wonder how many Word Forces he'd have... Shane. ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2618 ********************************