in_nomine-digest Wednesday, July 3 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2694 In this digest: Re: IN> It is convenient. Re: IN> The Angel of Canon Re: IN> It is convenient. RE: IN> The Ruiners Re: IN> It is convenient. Re: IN> Non-canon Plot seed.... Re: IN> Libertarian Sewer Flukes Re: IN> The Ruiners Re: IN> It is convenient. Re: IN> Non-canon Plot seed.... Re: IN> The Angel of Canon Re: IN> The Angel of Canon Re: IN> It is convenient. Re: IN> New Heresy Re: IN> Joktan, Promotor Fidei, Habbalite of the Game Re: IN> It is convenient. Re: IN> New Heresy Re: IN> Non-canon Plot seed.... IN> Forwarded from my better half... Re: IN> Forwarded from my better half... Re: IN> Non-canon Plot seed.... IN> Insane New Princes ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 02:33:30 -0400 From: "S.D." Subject: Re: IN> It is convenient. >>Um... I'm lost. Is Michael still in Heaven but has a chunk of his Forces >>on Earth, or is there an imposter and this is the *real* Mike, or have you >>twisted *all* of canon history to reflect this (and if so how), or what? > >There is an impostor: the one Michael was meant to have kicked out of >Heaven in the first place. He's not the First And Greatest Balseraph for >nothing. Okay, I was guessing that but wasn't sure. ...so why'd Lucifer go through with everything else if he *beat* Michael, or at least was able to turn him into a Remnant? I mean, from what I've read (and yes, I have Superiors 1 and the IPG), it was Michael winning that let *him* kick the rebels out, but if he lost or was turned into a Remnant in the process there's no real reason for Lucifer to submit, trapping most if not all his power base in Hell till Lilith comes along... And if Mike got turned into a Remnant *after* that duel, how'd Lucifer get back up to Heaven in time to trick all the other AAs (*especially* Dominic) into thinking nothing happened? Though I will say that Lucifer-the-imposter makes even more sense with the Yves thing than standard Michael. ~S.D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 02:11:10 -0500 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> The Angel of Canon edenesque@juno.com wrote: > > Deuteronomy > Seraph of Judgment In Service To The Sword > Angel of Canon I can't resist the irony in pointing out that canonically, Deuteronomy is the Seneschal of the Code of Hammurabi (Liber Castellorum, pp. 75-76). So your Angel of Canon violates canon.... - -David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 01:11:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Kanako Otaku Subject: Re: IN> It is convenient. >And because of all of this, Michael is going to kick Lucifer's red ass... > >...just as soon as he remembers that it needs doing. >Um... I'm lost. Is Michael still in Heaven but has a >chunk of his >Forces on Earth, or is there an imposter and this is >the *real* Mike, or >have you twisted *all* of canon history to reflect >this (and if so how), >or what? >And does Baal have any idea of this? I feel strangely compelled to ask the exact same thing. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 06:48:16 -0400 From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Subject: RE: IN> The Ruiners If you are human. Angels are supposed to be better than that. - -----Original Message----- From: Steven E. Ehrbar [mailto:stevenehrbar@elp.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 1:51 AM To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Subject: Re: IN> The Ruiners Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW) wrote: >Except that sometimes how you do something does matter. If Angels indulge >in demonic/horrific tactics than the only thing that makes then different >from Demons are the colors of their wings. > Even with the roundup of Japanese citizens in the U.S., the firebombings of Dresden and Tokyo and other cities, the deliberate strafing of German civilians by fighter aircraft, the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and the alliance with the mass-murdering brutal dictator Stalin, I'm still glad the Allies won WWII, not the Axis. Even if both sides use evil methods, a difference of ends is sufficient to make the sides distinguishable and one side preferable. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 06:04:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> It is convenient. Question... if the Eternal Warrior is Michael's Remnant, who's that claiming to be the AA of War? Or does this plot seed assume that there is no AA of War? ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." -- Frank Zappa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 11:00:16 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Non-canon Plot seed.... As for acquiring Ethereal minion, I draw your attention to the Ethereal Song of Life, in the Liber Canticorum. According to it, Superiors can sing up permanent Ethereals whenever they like, for a suitable expenditure of Essence. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:13:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Libertarian Sewer Flukes [sigh] OK, Moe, we'll go over it one more time. You're supposed to roll the dice, not smoke them. 0:> ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." -- Frank Zappa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 12:21:08 -0300 From: "vez o'rama" Subject: Re: IN> The Ruiners > >>How desperate would he have to be to create a group like The Ruiners? > >Point of clarification: *Christopher* created The Ruiners. NOT >Michael. Point of clarification: We were talking about the subject as if the group were working for Michael. We sort of strayed from the original post. <:) However, since you brought it up... I'm afraid I have to agree with the folks who say the Ruiners use unangelic tactics. Plus, they place children in danger*. AND, the pay-off isn't that great**. It's stylish, but not reasonable. - - vez*** *By weakening the credibility of legitimate child abuse claims, should they be proven wrong, for example. **There are better ways to get Infernals, especially on an individual basis. ***This asterisk thing is really handy! :) _________________________________________________________________ Join the world s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 12:14:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher Anthony" Subject: Re: IN> It is convenient. Sadly, I was apparently too oblique in the original post for many readers. I'll try to include a primer in the future. S.D. said: > ...so why'd Lucifer go through with everything else if he *beat* > Michael, or at least was able to turn him into a Remnant? I mean, > from what I've read (and yes, I have Superiors 1 and the IPG), it > was Michael winning that let *him* kick the rebels out, but if he > lost or was turned into a Remnant in the process there's no real > reason for Lucifer to submit, trapping most if not all his power > base in Hell till Lilith comes along... Lucifer was a Seraph before the Fall. At the instant of the Fall, he was transformed into a Balseraph... and this scenario hypothesizes that his first thought upon doing so was "No, I'm still a Seraph". Superior-level resonances being what they are, he got his wish; again, this post hypothesizes that he did so by trading places, as it were, with the Firstborn, whom he'd just defeated. For the record: no, this isn't meant to be a canon setting. This is barely meant to *fit into* a previously canon game; this is something to do if you seriously want to skew your players' worldview. (Especially if one of them is a servitor of War.) I, for one, am about to write this post off as a loss: it obviously failed to achieve its objective. This will be the last I write publicly on the subject. - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 13:50:16 -0500 From: "Gregg Forge" Subject: Re: IN> Non-canon Plot seed.... > >Allow me to point you at the Superior Soap opera...;) > >Allow me to point out a few differneces: > Seen and noted, and as mentioned, it's a case of synchronocity being a Major Beeyotch. Nowhere are there any implications of plagarism, copying, or any of the more unpleasant type things like that. I'm simply amused by the level of coincidence involved, and having heard just a little bit about certain details that were still developing, that haven't hit yet, that synchronocity becomes that much more amusing. (^_^) That said, I must pick your brain over my secret project. Kamika-Z, who thinks that a threat that big demands Direct Intervention... _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 15:16:32 -0500 From: "Gregg Forge" Subject: Re: IN> The Angel of Canon >Deuteronomy >Seraph of Judgment In Service To The Sword >Angel of Canon Bet he'd definitely not like certain Creationist... Kamika-Z ...and definitely wouldn't approve of HIS views on cannon... _________________________________________________________________ Join the world s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:38:36 -0500 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> The Angel of Canon - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregg Forge" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 3:16 PM Subject: Re: IN> The Angel of Canon > >Deuteronomy > >Seraph of Judgment In Service To The Sword > >Angel of Canon > > Bet he'd definitely not like certain Creationist... > > Kamika-Z ...and definitely wouldn't approve of HIS views on cannon... Smurf that -- what I wanna know is how this guy reacts to the Demon Prince of Heresy. *eg* - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:38:18 +0100 From: "Merior" Subject: Re: IN> It is convenient. > >And does Baal have any idea of this? > > I feel strangely compelled to ask the exact same thing. > What I am wondering is, if Lucifier is in Heaven pretending to be Micheal, who the being wandering about in Hell claiming to be Lucifier really is then... - - Richard Drysdale (merior@talk21.com) "Okay! At this point, God's Balseraph resonance wears off and you start to remember the following things..." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 17:39:39 -0400 From: Michael Bruner Subject: Re: IN> New Heresy > > Besides, who says that Eli doesn't kick ass now? :) > >I think he very much does! Actually in my heretical little brain Eli is >the one being who might have a chance at kicking Michael's butt. Being all >Creative and stuff, Eli's got to be able to get one over on Mike. It's >just that he's never bothered to. I mean - hes got Important Stuff to >smoke....er do...er.. And all that fighting stuff is Mike's job, not >Eli's anyway. :) I don't think Eli can beat Michael in a straight-up fight; what I do believe is that Eli would try to change the nature of the competition (or, given his nature, change things to remove the competition) to something he could win, and with his creativity he has a good chance of doing so. Of course, since Mike knows that, he'd try to prevent that from happening. Which one would succeed is the inevitable question which makes competitions between Superiors always a big "if" as to the winner :). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:43:09 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> Joktan, Promotor Fidei, Habbalite of the Game It's a pity no one commented on this. I thought it was fabulously written, well thought-out, and easy to integrate into a campaign. I'm going to use him for mine. - -- Casca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:59:11 -0500 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> It is convenient. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merior" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 4:38 PM Subject: Re: IN> It is convenient. > What I am wondering is, if Lucifier is in Heaven pretending to > be Micheal, who the being wandering about in Hell claiming to > be Lucifier really is then... Superior multi-tasking? - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 17:28:40 -0500 From: "Gregg Forge" Subject: Re: IN> New Heresy >I don't think Eli can beat Michael in a straight-up fight; what I do >believe is that Eli would try to change the nature of the competition (or, >given his nature, change things to remove the competition) to something he >could win, and with his creativity he has a good chance of doing so. Of >course, since Mike knows that, he'd try to prevent that from happening. >Which one would succeed is the inevitable question which makes competitions >between Superiors always a big "if" as to the winner :). Michael's the baddest Mo Fo in Creation. Eli IS Creation. That sorta skews the results, don't it? Kamika-Z, Biased Creationist Ofanite with the Malakite attunement. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 11:00:16 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Non-canon Plot seed.... As for acquiring Ethereal minion, I draw your attention to the Ethereal Song of Life, in the Liber Canticorum. According to it, Superiors can sing up permanent Ethereals whenever they like, for a suitable expenditure of Essence. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:16:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Forwarded from my better half... ... as she ever so slowly becomes indoctrinated into the ways of IN. My master plan is right on schedule. :) Moe Movie Night by Jaymiel Would you slow down for just a minute? the frustrated Mercurian shouted. If there is one way to get a Cherub s attention, it is to show distress. Jaymiel stopped rummaging about her Cathedral to face Francis. I m sorry, she said contritely. I don t mean to ignore you. But I m ­ Busy, Francis sighed. I know. Comes with the job, I expect. Jaymiel nodded. But even the Commander of the Host takes time off every now and then, you know. Come on, you need a break. Right now? But I have to ­ You have to relax, the Mercurian insisted. Don t you have any competent Servitors? Of course! the Archangel replied indignantly. You ve met most of them! How can you ­ So why don t you let them show you how competent they are by taking care of the emergency du jour? Francis asked, a slight smile playing around his mouth. Jaymiel raised a paw and opened her mouth, but nothing came out. Oh, all right, she grumbled, dropping the paw and lumbering over to Francis. What did you have in mind, beloved? Francis paused dramatically before declaring, Movie night! She looked at him askance. A movie? I hate to sit still for that drek. It had better be a good one. Oh, it is, he assured her. I think you ll like it. And she did like it. Francis had selected a light-hearted science fiction comedy. But rather than laughing and relaxing, as he had intended, the Archangel got ever more intense and excited. That s us! she exclaimed halfway through the picture. A Mending team, practically! This is great! By the time the credits were rolling, she was pacing the room. What a great concept... protecting humanity from what they can t handle, and cleaning up anything they do manage to see! Protecting... hm, think I should get Zadkiel in on this? Francis looked at her dubiously. In on what? You re not... Sure! If I can pry some artifacts out of Jean, equip some Soldiers... cuts down the disturbance. We could base out of a Tether... use old Earth hands as backup for the others, and keep less, ah, discreet but useful celestials on call in the Tether, out of sight. It could work! Jaymiel, it was a movie. So? I like the idea. Tell you what, make us reservations at that nice caf頩n Paris. I ll ask Zadkiel to come by and pitch it to her. If she thinks it s too outrageous, I ll drop it. Fair, Francis admitted. Table for three, coming up. Jaymiel gave him a quick kiss on the cheek. Thanks! she chirped, before flitting off to make arrangements with Protection. They made an odd trio at the caf鮦nbsp; Francis, with typical Mercurian good sense, was wearing stylish European casuals. Zadkiel wore the uniform of the local gendarmes, as she usually did. Jaymiel looked like she had just crawled out from under a transmission, as she usually did. So, what do you think? the younger Archangel enthused. Zadkiel tapped her finger on the table. No one s going to like the idea of either of us keeping tabs on their Servitors all the time. I m not sure I like it, honestly. Smells too much like The Game. Jaymiel paused. Uh... hm, that s true. I didn t look at it that way. Well, we wouldn t have to do that, then. The movie was just for inspiration, after all. Monitoring demonic activities, then? Surely everyone would have to admit that d be useful? Ye-es, Protection answered slowly. But don t expect field agents to actually file reports with you, if they re not Mending. Honestly: can you see one of Gabriel s pausing long enough in the chase to file paperwork? Um... no. Jaymiel dropped her gaze into her caf頡u lait, disappointed. But it would be so much more efficient if they did... Zadkiel gave her a friendly pat on the shoulders. I m not arguing. But this is reality. Hey... if there were only one right way to do things, I m sure God would ve said something by now, she smiled. Work with who you can, and let the loose cannons do their thing. It s the loose cannons that cause me the most headaches, Jaymiel grumbled. Well, tell you what, Zadkiel said. I think the idea does have some merit. It has style, if nothing else, and sometimes a certain style is all you need to get volunteers knocking down your door. Given our realities, I think Protection s role would be limited ­ the sorts of monitoring we d need to do to prevent obvious celestial activity isn t going to go over well with anyone. I ll see if I can get some interested parties to do what they can, though, and send them your way. But it s an excellent paradigm for Mending. You think so? Jaymiel asked, disappointment fading. Zadkiel nodded. Sure. You re all about containment. If your cleanup squads can pass for mysterious government men rather than Soldiers and angels, all the better. There are enough human conspiracy theories out there that are so totally wrong... let the curious run down those paths, and thus keep out of the Truth about the War. Oh, thank you! Jaymiel exclaimed, spontaneously giving the ancient Archangel a hug. I ll get right on it. I ll start it as a group of Soldiers, I think... maybe one day, I ll have the resources to create a minor Choir to assist them... Zadkiel covered a smile; Jaymiel s mind was already obviously far away from Paris. Well, thank you for lunch, she said amiably. It sounds like you have plenty of planning to do, so I ll let you get to it. Mending nodded absently, recovering long enough to shake Protection s hand before she left. Then she started shuffling back towards Notre Dame, still mumbling to herself. Francis, respectfully silent while the Archangels discussed matters, sighed and took care of the check. He sometimes wondered, if Bronwen would talk, if he and she would find anything in common. The care and feeding of Archangels... He hurried after Jaymiel, smiling despite himself. As unlikely as it seemed, he rather enjoyed the idea of forming an actual team of Men in Black. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/13/02(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 20:33:45 -0700 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: Re: IN> Forwarded from my better half... On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:16:34 -0700 (PDT) Maurice Lane said unto us: ... as she ever so slowly becomes indoctrinated into the ways of IN. My master plan is right on schedule. And she makes such a phenomenal Elohite as well... Please continue with her assimilation! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:52:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Kanako Otaku Subject: Re: IN> Non-canon Plot seed.... >As for acquiring Ethereal minion, I draw your >attention to the >Ethereal Song of Life, in the Liber Canticorum. >According to it, >Superiors can sing up permanent Ethereals whenever >they like, for >a suitable expenditure of Essence. I see. Don't have that book. Yet. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:00:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Kanako Otaku Subject: IN> Insane New Princes These two are insane new Demon Princes i've cooked up. Don't mind me, I am a deluded nutcase. Celestain, Lilim Princess of Chaos " The world began in chaos, in chaos it will end. " It's hard to be a Lilim. It's even harder when you're a highly dissonant, fatally discordant one. Even more so when you're insane. Look at Celestain. She's got no concept of organization to the point that she'll hand out a distinction to any demon that asks for it, albeit the distinction carries nothing with it other than the title. No one in Hell is *wiling* to work with her, including most of the Princes. Dissonance: To actually *PLAN* something. The insignificant few that work for the "Mad" Princess gain a point of dissonance for every minute that they spend planning something. She encourages spontaneity, abruptness, freedom to think. They also gain dissonance if they stand by and do nothing in the middle of a chaotic situation, such as a riot, or when an opportunity to spread chaos, such as aiding in a jailbreak, presents itself. For some reason, they also gain dissonance by restricting the freedom of anything other than an angel. She does not only expect her few Servitors ( roughly only a hundred or so, ALL given to her by other Princes ) to be chaotic, but to be as mad and unpredictable as she is. Organization: Simple: random handing out of distinctions to anyone who asks. They don't really count, they're just like titles. She's willing to take anyone into her service, and she lets them do as they will, as long as it's chaotic. She lets them do anything they like. It has become clear that she is *very* much like Lilith in this sense, but any of her Servitors, or any non-Prince demons for that matter, who say this in her presence *WILL* be smited. It's about the only thing sure about her. Band Attunements: Balseraphs ( restricted ): The few Bapseraphs working under her gain 1 Essence whenever they use their Resonance to start a chaotic situation. If they help free prisoners in a violent jailbreak, they gain Essence for every prisoner who escapes. They also gain 1 Essence when they participate in riots, lootings and the like. Djinn: She has an ardent disdain for Djinn after being interrogated a few centuries ago by Asmodeus. She loathes the entire band, so she doesn't take Djinn. Calabim ( restricted ): Whenever they use their Resonance to cause confusion, or in a riot or otherwise confusing and violent situation, they gain 2 Essence. They can also use their resonance to destroy any symbol of order or authority. Habbalah: They can use their resonance to drive a number of people equal to the Habbalite's total number of Forces to chaotic behavior. Doing so drains 2 Essence per target. Lilim ( restricted ): A Lilim gains 1 Essence when they use a geas to have a person do something chaotic or random. Using a Perception roll and 2 Essence, her Lilim no longer senses what a person Needs, but rather what would be the most effective way to cause chaos in the target's life. They gain dissonance if they fail though. Shedim: Like any Lilim, she loathes Shedim and doesn't take them into her service. Impudites ( restricted ): Any Impudite who is in her service will gain 1 Essence if they Charm someone into doing a random or chaotic act. 2 Essence if the act was violent. Servitor Attunements: She has no Servitor attunements. Distinctions: note: ALL her distinctions have the same effect: it doubles any Essence gained and decreases Essence used by 1 in using her band attunements. Knight of Random Behavior Captain of Riots Baron of Anarchists Relations: Most of Hell's Princes don't like her. It is likely Lucifer crowned her out of need to do so, after Lilith left. Oddly enough, Baal and Kronos are the closest thing she has to actual allies. She finds Vapula's insane creations useful, so she tolerates him. Nybbas she hopes to control, to make it easier to forward her Word. She reserves a hatred for Saminga and Malphas, who are the two Princes whose Words are most closely related to hers. She also has an inexplicable attraction to Kronos, whom she worked for once. She also has nothing but hatred for her Mother, whom she believes neglected her all her life and refused to aid her when she was being tortured by Asmodeus. She doesn't realize that Lilith was responsible for her early release. Allies: Kronos* ( Kronos is associated with her ) Associated: Baal, Belial* ( Belial and Vapula are neutral to her ) Neutral: Everyone else, except....* ( other than the ones above, the Princes are *ALL* hostile to her ) Hostile: Saminga, Malphas Enemy: Asmodeus, Lilith* ( Lilith is associated with her. She is STILL her Daughter after all ) Basic Rites: - -disrupt an otherwise organized meeting or event. - -start a jailbreak. - -kill a Shedite or Djinn. ( I'm serious! ) - -keep an argument between two close people, such as friends or lovers, running for more than an hour. Chance of Invocation: 1 Invocation Modifiers: +1 in the middle of a riot or battle +2 in an angry mob ( provided the mob is against an established organization ) +3 in the middle of a jailbreak +4 the burning reckage of a symbol of authority +5 if near an Angelic Tether ( she *loves* destroying them ) +6 if the one calling is a Demon Prince she is associated with +7 if you're Kronos or serve him +8 if you mention Lilith ( afterwhich, she'll proceed smiting you ) - -1 if in proximity to a Tether to Death or Factions - -2 if in a police station or government office - -3 if in proximity of a Tether to Freedom - -4 if the one calling is a Djinn or Shedite ( the one doing so is likely to get killed too ) - -5 if you're a Lilim working for another Prince - -6 if you work for Death, Factions or the Game History: She's insane. At least, that may be what she *wants* you to think. Inside, she was once the coldest, hardest, most ruthless Lilim you'd ever find. She was relentless in collecting geasa, particularly when she was working for Kronos. She enjoyed having humans, and the occasional angel do random acts of violence or chaos that would inevitably ruin their lives and bring them to their Fates when she collected the geas. She worked eighteen consecutive thirty year contracts under Kronos, and is particualrly fond of the old Balseraph. She moved on after those contracts, some time after 485 B.C., taking up work in Vapula's service. She enjoyed her work there, ceaslessly working on one device of mass destruction after another, often causing a riot within Tartarus. Meriting Vapula's attention at times. It was during one of her notorious tests that Lucifer noticed her. He saw the immense, costly damage on Tartarus and the chaos that ensued when they found that the explosion caused aftershocks. She is probably the ONLY Lilim with little or no geasa, as she has had little use for them since leaving Kronos' service. She despises angels, especially Servitors of Judgement, who had dragged her into one of their Tethers, hidden away, to be interrogated. She refuses to say why they interrogated her, or what happened to her. Asmodeus grew suspicious of her after she returned, with a mental state similar to what she projects now. After a month of torture in Hades, Lilith finally managed to bail one of her first Daughters out, but Celestain doesn't know this, and thinks Lilith abandoned her. When released, she was erratic, chaotic, disturbed. She wandered aroud Hell, but never ventured into Shal-Mari. She stayed clear away from her Mother, whom she claims she has disowned. She spent centuries aimlessly walking around Hell, causing chaos at every opportunity. Eventually, she came upon Lucifer himself near Stygia. She was still sane enough to show respect to the Lightbringer, but her attention drifted when she noticed Lilith leaving Stygia, breaking into a fit of shouting and screaming. Lucifer and Kobal, who was nearby at the time, thought it a most elegant joke to give the Lilim a Word. After a few seconds of thoguht, Kobal gave a most accurate suggestion: Chaos. Lucifer is said to have snickered a little as he heard those words. It fit the "Mad" Lilim quite well. So it was given, she became the Lilim of Chaos. Not that it mattered to her, for a while. Eventually, she realized being the epitome of Chaos wasn't so bad. In fact, she was starting to enjoy all the random madness she was causing. Now, she managed to settle on a goal. She had no plan to achieve it, but at the very least, it was goal. The goal was a rather big one: become a Princess and get rid of the Mother who she thinks abandoned her. And now, she is a Demon Princess. Getting rid of Lilith however, in the most painfully chaotic way possible, is proving most difficult. This task requires an actual plan, which she can't do. She is chaos, randomness, spontaneity. She gains dissonance by planning anything. If she's going to get rid of Lilith, it will probably be either by Lilith's own free decision, or she'll have to slaughter Lilith herself. Personality and Outlook: She projects insanity, but inside, she knows Kronos understands her. She is in love with the Balseraph, and she makes no effort to hide it. She has also deluded herself into thinking that Kronos feels the same way. Her mind is unstable, her nature just like her Word, but there are a few things that keep her somewhat gorunded in reality. Her "love" for Kronos, her hatred for Djinn, Shedim and Lilith, her unusual urge to inflict cruel and unusual punishment upon angels. These things alone keep her somewhat sane, for the moment. She believes everything is intrinsically chaotic, but Heaven is working to control that inner chaos. She sees humanity as the product of random, chaotic evolution, not a planned project. She disregards all the tales of creation, of the Eden experiment, of everything. She thinks it all came from Chaos, and to Chaos it should return. She believes it is the Fate of the Symphony to fall back to that Chaos, and that she must hasten it, damage to it be damned. Role in the War: She is *very* straightforward in her task: cause Chaos. Her main task, strategically speaking, is to incur Chaos withing the Angelic ranks. While this is done best with Malphas, she prefers to work alone. She also uses Chaos to bring humans to their ultimate Fates, as a sort of twisted gift to Kronos. Her Servitors do the same thing, but to a smaller scale. Appearance: Celestially, she appears like any other Lilim. WIth a few noticeable differences. Dark blue skin, extremely sharp horns, cold, soulless black voids for eyes and a randomly colored aura. In her corporeal vessel, she appears as whatever is most likely to elicit mixed reactions from the group of humans she is going to be with. What the others think of her and what she thinks of them: Andrealphus: I have much more fun with Lilith really, I don't really understand her......." Lust is useless. In the end, he will lose his power, for Lust has no place in the purity of Chaos. " Asmodeus: I admit that Lilim have their uses, but.......what use can you possibly find in a Lilim that is even more insane than Gabriel and Vapula combined? " He will pay for what he has done to me in the past......." Baal: As long as she spreads Chaos in the ranks of the enemy, I find no trouble in her. " He sees Chaos as a tool. I believe it the purity of all. Besides, combat is often quite chaotic. We disagree on a few things, but I Need him to exterminate the biggest obstacle to my letting that purity come: Heaven. " Beleth: Her madness sometimes gives *me* Nightmares.......I'm not entirely sure what to think of her. " Like Baal, Nightmares can be quite chaotic. We use each other. Nothing more. " Belial: She often leaves great flames burning wherever she goes. I like her. Though, she reminds me too much of Gabriel. " Fire is part of Chaos, it's elemental form. Belial is just too stupid to realize that he should be subservient to *me*. Gabriel too. " Haagenti: Hmm, i'm too hungry to think right now. " A great big fool. Absolutely useless. " Kobal: She's too insane to be funny. " He is as useless as Haagenti and Andrealphus. How can Lucifer tolerate such weaklings? " Kronos: She has driven many to their Fates, and is embracing her own. I just wish she'd realize I am not part of it. " He denies his feelings for me. I understand. He *IS* a Balseraph after all, but one day, we *will* bring the Symphony to it's final, Chaotic Fate. Then, we will be together, my dear Kronos....." Lilith: She is my Daughter. I am proud that she has become a Princess. I only wish I could show her I didn't abandon her. " She betrayed me. Mention her in my presence again and they will find your scattered Forces all over Shal-Mari!! " Malphas: I don't understand why she can't see that our Words are beneficial to each other. Still, her alienating Lilith from a Lilim, namely herself, is something even *I* would have trouble doing. " Wretched Shedite. He must be SLAIN!! " Nybbas: Ooh....sometimes, her work gets ratings, sometimes not. She's a ratings grabber most often though. If only she was easier to work with... " Using him to promote Chaos is the *only* reason to keep him around. " Rath: I would rather she were dead, but Lilith insistes I don't slay her. I pary her maternal instincts do not get cuase her to suffer in the future. " Misguided by Lilith's lies, he refuses to see the truth." Saminga: She kills many things in her wake, I like her....... " In death there is peace. Saminga *thinks* we should be helping each other, but I have no interest in the illusion of peace. Apparently, he's too dumb to see that. Stupid Shedite. " Valefor: Loot when she's working. That's about it. " Ugh, yet another miserable weakling. Is it any wonder that Hell hasn't won yet? " Vapula: Clearly too unstable to work with properly. I still haven't forgotten her destroying half my lab all those years ago too!! " His experiments are clearly chaotic. He has his uses. " Rath, Djinn Prince of Dark Writings " God is the original author of creation, but I intend tpo edit it. " A Prince that is both a Djinn, but still has remnants of his former Cherubim nature. Hidden in the shadows for all the time he spends in Hell, he is the most reclusive Prince Hell has ever known, or will know. To the point that he has taken no Servitors for the past one thousand, eight hundred fifty three years since he was crowned. In fact, few actually know that he *is* a Prince. Dissonance: He has no Servitors and takes no Servitors. If they choose to work for him anyway, they only have the normal Dissonance requirements for their Bands. Organization: No Servitors, no organization. For the few demons who have decided to work for him, they soon realize that he doesn't bother with them. They either turn to other Princes, or end up working off debts, earned by asking where he is, to Lilith. Band Attunements: He doesn't have any. Servitor Attunements: Same thing. Distinctions: Still nothing. Though they're free to make some up. Relations: Despite being the most hidden and reclusive of the Princes, he *is* known by all of them. He writes quite well, thus his Word. He has a special relationship with Lilith, to whom he owes his life. He forwards the Words of the others, as well as his own, much like Nybbas. He is regarded as helpful to them all, *except* Celestain. He loathes what he calls the "Lost" Lilim. He loathes the fact that she hates Lilith. He also despises Saminga, since dead humans can't read his dark works. He also dislikes Malphas, who he sees as a manipulator, someone who exists only for himself, someone who doesn't understand the value of others, someone not to trust. He also has a few gripes with the more destructive Princes, as dead humans can't read. Alied: Lilith ( more like fanatically devoted ), Beleth Associated: Nybbas, Andrealphus, Kronos Neutral: Everybody else, except..... Hostile: Malphas, Saminga* ( Asmodeus is highly suspisiouc of him, as angels have been known to call him once in a while ) Enemy: Celestain Basic Rites: note: The few demons who are stubborn enough to want work for him have found these somehow work, though not all the time. - -read a story with a dark taint ( i.e. horror, tragedies and the like ) - -write a story with a dark taint - -make someone read a horror story Chance of Invocation: 0 Invocation Modifiers: +1 if you have a copy of any good horror story in your hands +2 if you have a copy of one of *his* works in your hands +3 if you are indebted to Lilith +3 if you work for a Superior that is not an enemy of his, or he is not hostile to +4 if you are a Lilim not working for Death, Factions or Chaos +5 if you say Lilith sent you ( if he finds out she didn't however, he will see to it Haagenti eats the fool ) +9 if you're with Lilith - -4 if you're a Servitor of Death Factions or Chaos - -5 if you're a Lilim of Death, Factions or Chaos History: He is so reclusive, that only Lilith knows where he truly came from. According to legend though, it was in the early days after Lilith allowed Hell to run free on Earth. Lilith had just been crowned Princess, and she found a dying Cherub near Hell's gates. The Cherub, if it still could be called one, was near completely Fallen, but still had some parts of his soul as Angelic. Legends say that Lilith saved the Cherub's life and in the final moments before Rath became a full Djinn, he used his Resonance on Lilith. The effects are still evident to this day, and no one understands how, or why. He is loyal to Lilith more than to himself, or to Hell. He was geased to work for Lilith for a few centuries, which he did. He, however, never left. He stayed on with Lilith, while he discovered he had an odd talent. He was a wirter, a DAMN GOOD one. He left the stories he made with Lilith, who initially didn't read them. As it sometimes does, Destiny or Fate gave him a helping hand. A Lilim hanging out in Lilith's personal archives found a copy of one of his works, which she read. She was unable to put it down for the three days it took to read it, then moved it on, passing it on to other Lilim. Finally, it ended up in the hands of Lilith herself, who, after reading it, went to two people in particular. Nybbas and Lucifer. Nybbas gladly agreed to help in the publishing of the story, which forwarded the Words of four Princes: Freedom, Lust, Nightmares and a little of Dark Humor. It was too intruiging and amazing to be true. Lucifer, who also read it, then summoned Rath to him. Rath went, fearful that his work may have offended the Lightbringer, prepared for the worst. Instead, he found himself Word bound. He still refused to work for anyone else though, and stayed in Lilith's part of Shal-Mari. After a few centuries, and nearly a hundred more works, Lilith petitioned Lucifer to crown him a Prince, which he did. He personally gives Lilith the first copy of anything he writes, and another to Nybbas, who prints and advertises it. He has stayed relatively quiet, hardly leaving unless Lilith leaves, and taking absolutely *no* Servitors. Personality and Outlook: Reclusive, he hides in the shadows more than any other Djinn. If he didn't recieve the Word of Dark Writings, he may very well have been a contender for the Word of Shadows. He speaks to hardly any Superior or Demon, other than Nybbas and Lilith. Politically, he is quiet, hardly making a stir in the politics of Hell, but he isn't considered a minor Prince. The other Princes know he can increase the power of the Words of the Archangels just as easily as he can the Princes' Words. He sees everything as somethign to write or think deeply about. To him, the Symphony isn't really a Symphony, but rather a large story written by God, that he will someday learn to edit or rewrite. He also sees usefullness in a few of the Arhcangels, namely Laurence, Dominic and Gabriel. He enjoys distorting characters based on them to twisted, maniacal, evil versions of their former selves, a mockery of the Archangels in question. Strangely enough, Novalis and Yvesl see him as potentially useful. First, Novalis sees his work on manipulating Dominic's personality as a good way to warn Dominic that he is doing *some* things wrong. Yves sees his value in promoting Destiny, as he has done an upstanding job of promoting Fate. Role in the War: His role is simple: promote the Words of the other Princes as well as his own. All he ever does since he got his Word was write, write, write. Appearance: He rarely manifests Celestially, and prefers his form of a roughly forty year old man, with slowly whitening black hiar, empty red eyes hidden behind thick reading glasses, wearing an all black business suit with a quill dipped in human blood in one hand. What the others think of him and what he thinks of them: Andrealphus: He has written many things that have gotten a good reaction from my Servitors, but I haven't read any of his more Lust-inspired work myself. " Hmm, Lust isn't one of my favorite things, and I believe writing isn't one of Andre's either. " Asmodeus: I have been inspeting his works to see if any information on Hell can be found, but so far, I haven't found any grounds to imprison him. " Asmodeus, ever suspicious, my fellow Djinn Prince. He doesn't realize that if I wished to leak information on Hell thorugh my work, it would be far too subtle for him to see. " Baal: Weak, but useful. " Not all of the battles if the War can be won by combat, Baal. Sometimes, it takes a little mind game to win. " Beleth: He has done a few things to promote my Word, and I admit, I have my younger Servitors read his more Nightmarish works to help them along. " She, along with Lilith, inspire me the most. If I could choose which Prince I would have as confidant other than Lilith, it would be her. " Belial: I don't need his worthless stories to promote my Word! A real fire does the job better than he ever can!! " A fool, truly a fool. I would prefer Gabriel over him, if she were not as mad as Celestain. " Celestain: Can't he see how blind he is to the fact that Lilith betrayed me and one day, will betray him a well? " Poor deluded fool. I would say she was as mad as Gabriel, but I should not insult Gabriel. I would rend her to nothingness, scattering her Forces across creation, but Lilith won't like it, so she lives. For now." Haagenti: People who read don't generally eat a lot, but sometimes, reading his work makes me even hungrier than usual. " Gluttony need not be restricted to food, oh massive one, as it may also encompass reading. " Kobal: He's a really good joker when he tries to be, he just doesn't do it very often. " A fine companion from time to time, but I would not want to be around him at all times, lest I be reduced to a laughing idiot. Still, he is definitely more sensible than Haagenti. " Kronos: He has bougght many to the Fates that awaited them, and he keeps writing to bring even more closer to it. " He understands how powerful I can be, as I understand how powerful he can be. I shudder to think what would happen to Hell if he were not here. " Lilith: He stays in my estate, writes, and sometimes stops. He stops when I ask him to, to just talk to him. He, among the Princes, I get along the best with. I try not to mix business with my personal feelings, but around him, I can't help but let my guard down." She is my muse, my inspiration, my goddess. I will follow her where she goes, even if she goes to the Far Marches or Heaven. " Malphas: I can't really understand him. He refuses to speak to me, at all! " I see him as useless. Hell needs unity to win this war, better he focus his skills on separating Heaven, rather than separatng Hell. " Nybbas: He's a little hard to work with, but his stories make for good TV. " Hell would not be the same without him. " Saminga: The dead do not read. I don't see the point of keeping him around. " Useless fool. He would be far more useful if he had an actual mind." Valefor: He's got ideas worth stealing.... " Ah, Valefor. I would enjoy his company, if he wasn't trying to steal my work." Vapula: Some of his stories have given me a few ideas to experiment on. Other than that, we leave each other pretty much alone." In madness, there is sometimes wisdom." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2694 ********************************