in_nomine-digest Friday, July 5 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2696 In this digest: IN> Proto-Superior- Paymon, possible Prince of the World Re: IN>The Angel of Canon Re:IN>The Angel of Canon Re: IN> Insane New Princes Re: IN> It is convenient. Re: IN> Rath, Djinn Prince of Dark Writings Re: IN> It is convenient. Re: IN> Notre Dame de Paris Re: IN> Proto-Superior- Paymon, possible Prince of the World Re: IN> Proto-Superior- Paymon, possible Prince of the World Re: IN> Proto-Superior- Paymon, possible Prince of the World ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:16:06 -0700 (PDT) From: W S Subject: IN> Proto-Superior- Paymon, possible Prince of the World Paymon, Renegade Impudite of the World "God said that all he had created was good. And frankly, the bastard has a point." Paymon is in something of a tough spot. He was one of the early Hellborn created before Lilith had evne created a single Tether out. Serving under Kobal, he garnered the Laughing Prince's manic glee with his pranks- using his charming smile to lure weak willed demons into more compromising situations. When the first tether to Dark Humor was opened, he was sent Earthside- arriving at the gravestone of the world's first geniune madman. And promptly fell in love. Or something similiar. Not with any mortal, or demon, or angel- no, he fell in love with the Corporeal world at large. It's intricate dances, the subtle interaction of the symphony of a bird with his own soul-draining verse, the way humanity danced with a million feet in rhythm without realizing it. Those silly, silly humans- them, perhaps above all others, did he fall in love. The world called him, and he heeded the call willingly, dancing with atoms and singing with stars. All while doing his job, of course. Kobal was never upset with his service on Earth- where Paymon went, he left misery and sorrow in his wake, and his own mocking laughter in his heart. He taught the slavers in Rome to better harden their hearts at the human misery they inflicted, and laughed as they justified treating their fellows as property. When some Israeli king had a'medium' summon a ghost, he appeared in disguise, providing the seed that would germinate into Saul's destruction. When later, a kabbalist summoned him to learn the secrets of power, he stayed a week to teach him the Corporeal Song of Light, and had the first contracted, signed in blood, for a human's soul- never again has one been bought so cheap. After several centuries of good service and few mishaps, Kobal asked his servant what he wanted as a reward. Paymon's answer caught the First Prankster off guard, before he began to laugh aloud at the sheer audacity of the request. For all that Paymon wanted was the World. "Tell ya what, Kid. We're both Takers, and so I'll make you a deal- if you find someone you can Take the World from, I'll put in a good word with Lucy to help you out." Paymon was crushed, discontent. Oh, he still did his duty, but now with far more melancholoy. Until a mass murderer that history would call the Great arose. Paymon heard of the figure's exploits while in Greece, and smiled to himself. Using what influence he had among the city states, he kept them fragmented, easy pickings for Alexander's armies- and then attached himself to the general. He drove Alexander onwards, until almost the entire known world, from a certain perspective, was in his grasp- and Alexander himself was on the verge of dying from alchol posioning and maleria, half sustained by Paymon's Songs. Whispering into the dying man's ear, Paymon offered him his health, if he would but sign a slip of paper brought to him. Alexander eagerly accepted, signing over both his own soul and all his demenses to Paymon. The demon laughed with delight, and in his hurry somehow forgot his half of the bargin- Alexander died later that night. The Impudite couldn't have cared- he summoned Kobal, and presented the Laughing Prince with the sheet. Kobal gravely examined it, before nodding his assent. Ascending to Hell, Paymon grinned with delight, even as he procedded down to meet Lucifier. The First of the Fallen watched the approaching Impudite without expression, and listened to the audacious request without comment, until Paymon finished with his tales and explanations. "Kobal has told me much of your exploits. Further, he says that a mortal deeded over the World to you already." The Lightbringer quirked the faintest half-smile. "And who am I to argue with God's greatest creations? Be the World, then. If that's what you want." - --- Years pass. Paymon, still in Kobal's service, wanders the world almost exclusivly now, and not only out of a duty to his Word. Saminga and Belial are both itching to shed his blood- his Word has only steadily increaase over time as the World kept growing large even while remaining the same. Lucifier has been heard mentioning that he plans on making a new Prince soon, one that could swing the whole of the War, someone that Heaven is simply not ready to deal with. He shattered his heart a few years ago, shortly after such talk, to make hiding easier- but even that's not enough now. And he's really had the time to think, think it all over. When he's not running, anyways. The World really is a beatiful piece of work, after all. Now, having gone Renegade and with two powerful Princes eager to have him torn to shreds, he is faced with a Choice. Sneak back into Hell, find Lucifier, and pray that the Lightbringer grants him a Princedom on the spot... Or find an angelic Tether, and risk Redemption. - --- Which is where the PCs come in. Paymon is a powerful, old Wordbound demon- potentially the Prince of the World, depending on how the cards fall. I'm not providing stats for him directly- he's old, should have between 15 to 18 Forces, and more resources than any four starting PCs. His attunments can vary wildly, as needed- perhaps he can inflict something similiar to the Bound discord on Celestials, temporarily make Vessels become more human- needing food and water and sleep, etc. Or perhaps he can deed any property to anyone, legally, no matter who used to own the land. He's confused about his place in the Scheme of Things, and not sure which way to go. He's also deathly afraid for his existance- apart from Death and Fire hunting for him, Asmodeus certainly doesn't want to see him jump to Heaven's side. At the same time, Paymon is probally old enough to have incured the wrath of the Order of the Eternal Sword at some point, and might have a harder time getting into Heaven than he suspects- presuming he trully, unselfishly wants to Redeem in the first place. Just a thought. :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 07:15:47 -0700 From: edenesque@juno.com Subject: Re: IN>The Angel of Canon Smurf that -- what I wanna know is how this guy reacts to the Demon Prince of Heresy. *eg* <<< His brain explodes. :P That, or he's out there, leading every Malakim Hit Squad of Laurence's and Dominic's to every spot of Heresy he can find. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 07:13:04 -0700 From: edenesque@juno.com Subject: Re:IN>The Angel of Canon I can't resist the irony in pointing out that canonically, Deuteronomy is the Seneschal of the Code of Hammurabi (Liber Castellorum, pp. 75-76). So your Angel of Canon violates canon....<<< Oops! I only have the Core Rules, the Infernal Player's Guide, Superiors 2, 4, and the Game Master's Guide, so I didn't know this. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2002 17:52:38 +0000 From: "cassandra benner" Subject: Re: IN> Insane New Princes >From: Kanako Otaku "I'm not too keen on using Aballam, so I didn't really think too much on him. Aballam wants madness everywhere, she, on the other hand" Now that all depend on which Abby it is that you've seen. The most accepted and enjoyed on that has ever been featured on this list can be found here: http://www.geocities.com/archangel_nine/Aballam.txt Main write up. http://www.geocities.com/archangel_nine/AbbyVignette.txt Short Vignette. http://www.geocities.com/archangel_nine/images/AbbySigil.gif Abbys Glyph. Along with many other things. Cas *Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be Evil.* Other In sites of coolness.. http://www.angelfire.com/goth/psyber/i-n.html http://www.geocities.com/archangel_nine/innomine.html _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 09:10:28 +1000 From: "james walker" Subject: Re: IN> It is convenient. > What I am wondering is, if Lucifier is in Heaven pretending to > be Micheal, who the being wandering about in Hell claiming to > be Lucifier really is then... Metatron, perhaps? For ultra non-canon, Metatron Fell *before* the Rebellion, and Lucifer was rebelling against what Metatron was saying - so, to answer: > ....so why'd Lucifer go through with everything else if he *beat* Michael, or > at least was able to turn him into a Remnant? When Lucifer realised that Metatron was the problem, he no longer had a quarrel with God, at which point he needed to fix the mess he'd started - and pretending to be Michael was the simplest way to do that. Cheers, James. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:57:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Kanako Otaku Subject: Re: IN> Rath, Djinn Prince of Dark Writings >Rath is hard to >incorporate into a campaign as anything but a plot >device. Truth be told, that was what I made him for. Still, I could probably cook up a more, uhm, violent version. Should anyone ask for it. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:05:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Kanako Otaku Subject: Re: IN> It is convenient. Ooh, good explanation. Now, to find a way to use it. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 08:17:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Notre Dame de Paris Wow, nice piece. It made me want to see Notre Dame. ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." -- Frank Zappa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 08:25:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Proto-Superior- Paymon, possible Prince of the World - --- W S wrote: > When some Israeli > king had a'medium' summon a ghost, he appeared in > disguise, providing the seed that would germinate into > Saul's destruction. Interesting except that demons can't prophesy, which is what the Bible says happened when the Witch of Endor called up the spirit of Samuel. Putting this in violates Biblical canon -- but I suspect that most people on this list have less trouble with that than with violating IN canon. };> ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." -- Frank Zappa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 08:39:42 -0700 (PDT) From: W S Subject: Re: IN> Proto-Superior- Paymon, possible Prince of the World > Interesting except that demons can't prophesy, > which is > what the Bible says happened when the Witch of Endor > called > up the spirit of Samuel. Putting this in violates > Biblical > canon -- but I suspect that most people on this list > have > less trouble with that than with violating IN canon. > };> When discussing IN, you are correct sah! :) And besides, Samuel's prophecy leading so directly to Saul's doom- while Saul was breaking his own law to have a spirit summoned... that's the sort of thing that would bring a smile to Kobal's lips. Especially while he was still in charge of bringing humanity to it's Fate. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:13:52 -0400 From: Robb Kidd Subject: Re: IN> Proto-Superior- Paymon, possible Prince of the World Michael Walton (thunderdog_sa@yahoo.com) wrote: > --- W S wrote: >> When some Israeli king had a'medium' summon a ghost, >> he appeared in disguise, providing the seed that >> would germinate into Saul's destruction. > > Interesting except that demons can't prophesy, which is > what the Bible says happened when the Witch of Endor called > up the spirit of Samuel. Putting this in violates Biblical > canon -- but I suspect that most people on this list have > less trouble with that than with violating IN canon. };> Eh ... the bit involving the Witch[1] of Endor and Samuel had less[2] to do with demons than it did with humans practicing necromatic spirit summoning. In the summoning of the dead for advice or blessing, an Israelite was turning away from YHWH Elohim. He's a jealous god and wants the ritual blood for Himself.[3] [1] She was a baalat 'ov, or mistress of the dead. A necromancing seer. [2] Read: nothing. [3] Enough digging and one will find that the early uses of "elohim" translates to "the divinely dead" -- roughly equivalent to Japanese ancestral spirits or the catholic communion of saints. ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2696 ********************************