in_nomine-digest Friday, July 12 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2702 In this digest: Re: IN> my thought on Satan Re: IN> CPG Question RE: IN> Exciting New Contest! RE: IN> Exciting New Contest! Re: IN> Exciting New Contest! IN> A question RE: IN> Exciting New Contest! Re: IN> CPG Question Re: IN> A question Re: IN> Exciting New Contest! IN> Cherub Dissonance IN> Song of WTF RE: IN> Exciting New Contest! RE: IN> Exciting New Contest! RE: IN> Exciting New Contest! RE: IN> Exciting New Contest! Re: IN> Song of WTF RE: IN> Exciting New Contest! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:02:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> my thought on Satan - --- W S wrote: > While many faiths in the world do not have a central > force of evil, dualism did not originate with the > Abrahamic faiths. I would rahter place it's start > with Zoosterism (damn the spelling!) Zorastrianism is what I think you mean. :> I'd disagree, though; Ahriman is definitely an incarnation of evil who opposes Ahura Mazda the god of light. The question is, are Ahura Mazda and Ahriman aliases of God and Lucifer or are they Ethereals (no books with me, don't recall if Zoroastrianism is classed as a divine religion)? ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." -- Frank Zappa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:04:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> CPG Question - --- Manny Nepomuceno wrote: > But on page 90, it says "Undead are still limited by > their potential Forces > (p. 17) but can acquire them like other humans, if they > still have extra potential after becoming undead." I think it says that Undead can learn more Forces up to their potential even after becoming Undead, but attaching Forces to them after that doesn't work. That's how I'd run it, anyway. ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." -- Frank Zappa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:10:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: RE: IN> Exciting New Contest! - --- "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" wrote: > VAATO : CALABITE & DEMON PRINCE OF SPEED Oy, what a concept! And for the record, I love the invocation modifiers. ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." -- Frank Zappa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:21:00 -0400 From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Subject: RE: IN> Exciting New Contest! - -----Original Message----- From: Michael Walton [mailto:thunderdog_sa@yahoo.com] - --- "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" wrote: > VAATO : CALABITE & DEMON PRINCE OF SPEED Oy, what a concept! And for the record, I love the invocation modifiers. ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 - --- "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Yeh.... well so far it's been the easy stuff. Getting Band Attunements that "work" is always difficult for me. DS1 Subject: Re: IN> Exciting New Contest! On 11.07.2002 5:38 AM, "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" wrote: > > To avoid hitting the volume restrictions, the Band Attunements will be > presented tomorrow. > > > VAATO : CALABITE & DEMON PRINCE OF SPEED Oooo. I like this guy. Buuuut... > HERMES SANDALS I know there's another name for these, and I can't seem to find it. Gimme a bit. ;) Aha, here we are. :D The Latin word for them is 'talaria', as found under the entry for Mercury on pantheon.org. (Handy site.) - --Kim, Angel of Random Enthusiasm ==== "Sometimes," said Petra, "what's right is not peaceful or passive. What matters is that you do not hide from the consequences. You bear what must be borne." ==== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:39:47 -0400 From: "S.D." Subject: IN> A question I've been going over the online policy (http://www.sjgames.com/general/online_policy.html) and haven't been able to find anything directly related to this, so here goes. If a Superior (or similar) writeup is posted to this ML or an internet site which uses elements from a canon Superior writeup (say, an Archangel Valefor who retains his Passage Attunement, or a Demon Prince Michael who has the same Lilim Attunement), is it allowable to retype the original text in full for the new writeup, or do you have to simply say what it matches and give a page/book? I'd assume the former, but since almost every writeup I've seen has done the latter, I want to be sure before I get my website going. ~S.D. Ryukage ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I have issues with anyone who treats faith as a burden instead of a blessing. You people don't celebrate your faith; you mourn it." Serendipity on Catholicism, 'Dogma' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:37:56 -0400 From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Subject: RE: IN> Exciting New Contest! - -----Original Message----- From: WonderGecko [mailto:wondergecko@dolphinmm.com] > HERMES SANDALS I know there's another name for these, and I can't seem to find it. Gimme a bit. ;) Aha, here we are. :D The Latin word for them is 'talaria', as found under the entry for Mercury on pantheon.org. (Handy site.) - --Kim, Angel of Random Enthusiasm ==== "Sometimes," said Petra, "what's right is not peaceful or passive. What matters is that you do not hide from the consequences. You bear what must be borne." ==== Eh? I prefer to use the popular name; it's more in line with Vaato's "fast and lose" style. I was going to call them Mercury Sandals, but the thought of poison shoes and dead fish kept cropping up while I was writing it. I suppose I could just call them "FTD Guy" Sandals if I wanted to be a slave to popular culture. DS1 "Oh good, my dog found the chainsaw!" -- Lilo & Stitch ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:46:40 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> CPG Question At 10:38 PM -0700 7/10/02, Maurice Lane wrote: >--- Manny Nepomuceno wrote: >> On page 89, it says "More important, an undead's >> soul is permanently tied >> to his configuration of Forces, which is tied to his >> corporeal form; he can >> never gain additional Forces on his own (though he >> can lose them)..." >> >> But on page 90, it says "Undead are still limited by >> their potential Forces >> (p. 17) but can acquire them like other humans, if >> they still have extra >> potential after becoming undead." >> >> Help? > >I read that to mean that a human with the potential >for more than six Forces retains said potential even >if he or she later becomes Undead. So, a six Force >mummy with the potential for seven would be able to >gain that seventh Force - *if* (and only if) a >Superior felt like giving it. It can't get a seventh >Force on its own, though. This is how I would reconcile the statements, I think. Though right now I'm a plague rat. O:p (I suspect this is because dead souls are freed from the restriction, IIRC, and can go up to 15 Forces. Undead souls, however, are stuck with the restruction.) - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:49:57 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> A question At 2:39 PM -0400 7/11/02, S.D. wrote: >I've been going over the online policy (http://www.sjgames.com/general/online_policy.html) and haven't been able to find anything directly related to this, so here goes. > >If a Superior (or similar) writeup is posted to this ML or an internet site >which uses elements from a canon Superior writeup (say, an Archangel Valefor >who retains his Passage Attunement, or a Demon Prince Michael who has the same >Lilim Attunement), is it allowable to retype the original text in full for the >new writeup, or do you have to simply say what it matches and give a page/book? The latter, please, if you're going to be putting it online. - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:12:51 -0700 From: WonderGecko Subject: Re: IN> Exciting New Contest! > Eh? I prefer to use the popular name; it's more in line with Vaato's "fast > and lose" style. I was going to call them Mercury Sandals, but the thought > of poison shoes and dead fish kept cropping up while I was writing it. I > suppose I could just call them "FTD Guy" Sandals if I wanted to be a slave > to popular culture. Well. You're talking to ME, here, and I'm the one with a potential heretical 'all religions are divine' write-up hiding in the wings somewhere. ;} I tend to be very much for mythological accuracy; besides, talasia just struck me as a niftier name. Your write-up, tho! Plus, Hermes/Mercury/Thoth/Woden/whatever he gets translated into in your religion of choice has been an area of fascination of mine for a long time. *giggles at the thought of 'FTD guy' sandals* Nybbas might like that. Destroy cultural heritage in favor of pop culture! - --Kim, Angel of Random Enthusiasm ==== "Sometimes," said Petra, "what's right is not peaceful or passive. What matters is that you do not hide from the consequences. You bear what must be borne." ==== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:03:04 +1200 From: "Terry Jackson" Subject: IN> Cherub Dissonance What are the exact Dissonance conditions for a Cherub. The APG mentions devotion where the core rules doesn't. A _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:04:04 -0500 From: "Gregg Forge" Subject: IN> Song of WTF Yes, I came up with these while bored. Yes, I have SongBook. No, these are utterly non-playtested. - ---------------------------------------------------------- Song of WTF Originally thought to be nothing more than a rather poorly named joke, this particular Song was discovered by an intensely eccentric Ofanite of Eli with a history of service that made almost no sense, on examination. A few years after his creation, Eli started on his sabbatical, so to speak; in turn, he was placed in the service of Revelation, where his truthfulness managed to even annoy the Seraphs when coupled with his fixation with truths that made people squirm or want to run screaming from the room. Seeing as how this was not the best use for him, Revelations transferred the Wheel to Gabriel's service, where he eagerly inflicted 'Poetic Justice' on the cruel, displaying a sense of humor that confounded as often as it entertained. After a surprisingly short, dissonance-free tour, he was next shifted over to Janus, who took an immediate liking to the amusing little Ofanite. The angeel was honest, but fond of fictions of a distinctively non-provable, purely hypothetical nature. Things that shook up peoples beliefs and views. Things that, in a way, really hurt the brain badly. When one mission for the Wind ended up dropping this Wheel right in Eli's path, Eli welcomed his Servitor and, after having a good chuckle at the tales his creation told him, sent the Servitor off to keep doing what he does best. Somewhere along the way, he ended up with a Word. Namely, the Word of Cognitive Dissonance. This Song was inspired by the reactions of the Seraphim Council when this odd little Truth was revealed. Corporeal Song of WTF; Causes one Utterly Improbable (but perfectly plausible) event to occur, which will serve was sufficient distraction to turn attention elsewhere. Causes things like Kobal -used- to amused with, once upon a time ago. Ethereal WTF; causes one positively harmless-yet-bizarre flight of fancy; can be as intuitive and cryptic as the GM desires. Occupies the mind of the recepient for Check Digit minutes, after which a Will roll must be made; if failed, they remain perplexed that much longer as they try to figure out WHY such weirdness happened in their heads in the first place... Celestial Song of WTF; effectively serves the purpose of being an epiphany the likes of which cannot be (and is best left un-) explained. Just, suddenly, something that may be completely unrelated will come around and make itself known, usually accomplished with a forehead-smack. Short form; it lets the GM smack the player on the head with a clue-by-four. Essences Cost: 2 for Corporeal/Ethereal, 3 for Celestial Disturbance: 2 for Corporeal, 1 for Ethereal, None for Celestial Kamika-Z, sharing the wealth... _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:56:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Kanako Otaku Subject: RE: IN> Exciting New Contest! Jon, Shedite Prince of Exploding Animals "The world is full of li'l critters to blow up......" Two Words: Nuclear Trout. Home Base: The Crater Appearance: Hardly manifesting in the usual Shedim Celestial form, he prefers wearing a dilapudated white shirt and black shorts in human form, eith beady black eyes and a sick, frightening smile, hands stained with blood. Dissonance: Servitors of Exploding Animals gain dissonance when they pass up an opportunity to blow up an animals, by any means. Organization: Most of Jon's Servitors are former Servitors of Dark Humor or The Media that Kobal and Nybbas decided to get rid off. Moving along his ranks involves the simple task of blowing up as many animals as they can in as short a time as infernally possible. Anyone who wants a loose, hardly caring boss work for him. He doesn't care if you barely do anything at all, as long as you blow up or mutilate an animal weekly. Band Attunements Balseraph: Using 1 Essence and their Resonance, they can make a person blow up or mutilate an animal. Djinn: Using 1 Essence, they can make a person they are attuned to attack or blow up an animal. The Djinn is no longer attuned to that person afterwards. Calabite: Whenever they use their Resonance to destroy an animal, they gain 1 Essence. Habbalite ( restricted ): They can use their Resonance to cause a person to attack an animal. Lilim: They gain 1 Essence whenever they use a Geas to make a person attach an explosive on an animal. Shedite: They gain 1 Essence whenever they make their Host detonate an explosive within close proximity to an animal. Impudite: Any Impudite who is in his service will gain 1 Essence if they Charm someone into strapping an explosive on an animal. Servitor Attunement Exploding Meat!!: Using 1 Essence and a touch, they can make any dish made from an animal explode. Distinctions Knight of Flying Fur: Holders of this distinction may use the Calabim band Resonance, at the cost of 1 Essence, to destroy any furry animal. Captain of Meat Grenades: Using 1 Essence and a touch, they can make a piece of meat explode after a 10 second time delay. Relations: He.......somewhat respects Kobal and Nybbas, who provide him with many, *MANY* Servitors. He also is trying to get on Lilith's good side since he owes her quite a bit from his days as one of Kobal's Servitors, or would boot licker be the better term? He is a despised nemesis of Haagenti and Belial, for different reasons. As for Beleth, nobody really knows *why* he likes her so much. Allied: Beleth, Lilith* ( Lilith and Beleth are neutral to him ) Associated: Kobal, Nybbas Neutral: Everybody else Hostile:* ( Belial and Haagenit are hostile to him ) Basic Rites: - -feed an animal C4. - -cause an explosion in an area crowded with animals. Chance of Invocation: 3 Invocation Modifiers: +1 over an exploded animal's corpse +2 if you have a small animal with a bomb strapped to it. +3 in the middle of a herd of animals where at least *one* has an explosive attached to it. - -2 if there is a living animal near you. - -3 in the middle of a herd of where no animals have an explosive attached to them. History: Once, a Servitor of Kobal, due to debts, was working in a Shal-Mari restaurant owned by Lilith. Now, Haagenti *loved*, I repeat, *LOVED* to eat there. With a sudden hit of inspiration, Jon planted a small explosive in the Prince of Gluttony's t-bone steak. The little thing exploded as Haagenti bit into the steak. It was strong enough to knock one of his teeth out, destroy half the restuarant and make Kobal *really* happy with the guy. Even Lucifer snickered upon hearing what happened. At which point, the Lightbringer gave him a Word. Exploding Animals. He, of course, got his debt to Lilith, which was nearly payed up already, nearly quadruple. Lilith opened the restuarant,but Haagenti never did eat there again. Some time later, as the now Baron of Dark Humor began blasting animals away, he managed to somehow strap a small atomic detonation device to one of Jordi's animal vessels in Hiroshima near the end of the second World War. Nybbas covered it up, changing the history of it all. Needless to say, getting an Archangel openly and actively hunting you down makes a Demon deserving of a Princehood. So, that's how it happened, he became a Prince. Now, he needed a Principality. Seeing as he didn't want to carve one out for himself, he cooked up a very insane plan. Strapping yet another thermo-nuclear device, this time, much more powerful, to a trout and placed it in the middle of Sheol's. It blew up, creating his Principality: The Crater. The rest, as they say, is history. Personality and Outlook: Jon's personality is very single-minded: blow up animals. He is afraid of getting Lilith angry, little realizing that she probably won't send him into a suicidal mission even if he does. He doesn't care that two Princes, Haagenti and Belial, are very open enemies of his. He doesn't care that most, if not all, of his Servitors on Earth are permanently open-season for Jordi and his Servitors. He doesn't care if Hell wins, as long as he blows up a*lot* of animals along the way. Role in the War: He has no actual, definite role in the War. He and all his Servitors are obsessed with one thing: destroying animals. To Kobal though, his role is simple: make*him* laugh. What the others think, and vice-versa: Andrealphus: Exploding cows aren't sexy...... "Animals were meant to be blown up, not used as toys." Asmodeus: Useless. Utterly useless. "Games bore me unless there are exploding little bunnies...." Baal: Exploding animals have......some tactical uses. Not that I condone his antics, mind you. "Wars. Lots of animal corpses to blow up." Beleth: He's an odd one. Still, I have seen some humans have Nightmares of being attacked by exploding sparrows. Maybe he caused that. "She scares me. I like scary women." Belial: THAT MISERABLE BASTARD BLEW UP PART OF SHEOL!! MY PRINCIPALITY!! NOBODY BLOWS UP SHEOL BUT ME!! "Wonder why he's so angry at me for?" Haagenti: I'll get him for knocking one of my teeth out!! "Yet another Prince that hates me for no reason.......odd." Kobal: I have to admit, he is just *too* funny for words!! "I owe a lot of my Servitors to my old boss." Kronos: He drives animals to a very.......unusual Fate. "The Fate of all animals is to BLOW UP!!! As for humans, I don't care 'bout them." Lilith: Well, at least he tries to stay on my good side. Just as long as he doesn't blow up one of my businesses again. "Lilith? I.......uhm......no comment!!" Malphas: He's certainly a strange one. I don't really know where he stands. "I'm not particularly fond of him since exploded animals don't have Factions." Nybbas: Exploding animals aren't really mass marketable. "Why won't he televise it when I blow up an entire herd of cows? WHY?!?!" Saminga: He kills animals. I like him. "He looks like the corpse of a silver back gorilla I blew up once." Valefor: He's.......not exactly......well........wait here while I go steal a dictionary. I can't find the right word..... "Oh well. He can steal animals for me to strap bombs to, if I ask him real nice, right?" Vapula: I would love to do a few experiments on his brain......so.....strange. "He makes me new bombs. Me like him." The Crater: It's just what it's called. One big crater in the center of Sheol. He camps out in a small tent in the middle of it. The border is booby trapped with salmon mines, cow launching, trip-wire activated catapults and scattered thermo-nuclear trouts. This makes even Belial reluctant to attack him directly. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 03:15:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: RE: IN> Exciting New Contest! - --- Kanako Otaku wrote: > Jon, Shedite Prince of Exploding Animals > > "The world is full of li'l critters to blow > up......" > > Two Words: Nuclear Trout. Well, that was... different. :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/13/02(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:42:46 -0400 From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Subject: RE: IN> Exciting New Contest! As promised.... the rest.... ** ** ** BAND ATTUNMENTS BALSERAPHS Fast talk is the specialty of the liars who serve Vaato. Snake Oil salesmen are their epitome. These con artists can use their natural resonance on a number of people equal to their celestial forces, plus their Intelligence, multiplied by the check digit. Rabble rousers and mob leaders, they are often brought in to help other demons cover an escape, or to bring the angels into conflict with the humans that they are supposed to be protecting. DJINN A Djinn knows the fastest way to destroy the thing he is attuned to. If this is the best way to dismantle a bomb, blow up a bridge, or knock down a wall, the Djinn need only concentrate and he will know the method. Bringing it about might still a problem, but hey, he can always tell someone else and then let them handle the details. Game Mechanics : The Djinn adds the check digit of a successful Will roll and his amount of Forces in the appropriate realm to do damage to something he is attuned to when attacking it. If someone else follows his directions, they add the same amount, less one point, to their damage inflicted. If the Djinn can make a successful Will roll, attacking the object of his attunement will not cause dissonance, but if he fails it, the backlash brings on a Cherubic devotion to the object of attachment. CALABIM A Calabim in the service of speed receives the greatest gift (as far as Vaato is concerned) of all. They can mirror the Ofanim resonance for speed and motion. In return, they also gain dissonance like their former brethren. They hate prisons even more than your average Calabim. HABBALAH In the service of speed, a Habbalah becomes the master of the reverse. If a victim of their Resonance succeeds in resisting with his Will, the Habbalah can attempt to throw it back at him by causing the reverse emotional state. If the victim succeeds in a second Will roll, causing the demon to fail again, the demon will gain both a note of dissonance *and* suffer the effects of the *original* emotional state that was attempted. Game Mechanics : If the victim resists, the Habbalah is allowed an immediate re-roll. The victim then resists again, and if the Habbalah did not roll higher, he takes both backlash effects. In this situation, a tie goes in favor of the victim. The Habbalah can, of course, choose to not attempt a double reverse and suffer only one of the effects as normal for his band. Reversing the emotional state of a victim is not Dissonant by Speed's restrictions. If a Habbalah were to change his mind prior to making the attempt; that would be Dissonant. LILIM Few Lilim are in service to speed. Letting one's self get bound to a geas made in haste can back fire too easily and Lilith dissuades her daughters from such unwise actions. Still, there are a few who seek the "fast road to freedom". These Lilim can cut in half the amount of time before being allowed to sense a victim's need when their perception has failed them. In addition, if a victim resists a Lilim's gesea, she may re-attempt in a number of hours equal to the check digit, instead of waiting that number of days. SHEDIM The corrupters of Vaato have an easier time of sending their host backsliding into the depths of depravity. With a successful Perception roll, they can know which internal sins their host is most susceptible to, and in doing so they can reduce the host's resistance by the check digit of that Perception roll. The sins they then enforce will follow suit to the host's natural faults. IMPUDITES Impudites that serve Vaato are quick studies of emotions. On a successful Perception roll, the Imp can sense an emotional weakness and manipulate it to reduce his victim's resistance by the amount of the check digit. This effect also enhances the ability to steal Essence from the victim. Playing with a human's emotions can be tricky and if the demon fails his roll, the check digit is added to the victim's defensive roll Game Mechanics: The check digit becomes an additional penalty on the Will roll for any contest between the Imp and his victim. If the Imp is successful, the penalty is to the victim. If the Imp fails, it is a penalty to the Imp. In either case, the penalty declines by one point each day until it is gone. The Imp can re-initiate whenever he chooses, but always runs the risk of failure and rejection. This resonance can work on a Celestial, but if it fails, the being notices the manipulation attempt, and may take action appropriate to its nature. Elohim are immune to this resonance, unless the demon rolls a check digit of six. At that point they fall under the Imp's sway and will gain a note of dissonance, though they will not notice it until the unnatural influence has faded. If the Imp rolls a 666, the Elohim must roll against falling at once. ERRATA: This Demon Prince was constructed within the first week of my buying the original book. I just thought a "Speed Demon" was required. Reading it over, I've noticed a few things right off that I would change, but Moe's contest was to provide original works, so I'm putting my revisions here. First off, he probably needs a different name; there are too many "V" Princes. And yeah, I know he's very close in some ways to Valefor; if I were truly designing my own IN mythos, I would probably have just combined some of this into Valefor's hierarchy. I made too many of the rolls dependent on a Perception check. They need to be redesigned to focus more on Will to be more in line with "demonic" style. Balseraphs: I would like to add the line - They can only use this extension of their Resonance for the purpose of "pumping up" the emotional state, they cannot use it to calm people down or reduce tensions. - to the first paragraph. Calabim: Probably needs to be completely different. I designed the entire Prince in order to have a demon opponent for my players that still had Ofanite speed. Kind'a cheesy and I think I should make it one of his Distinctions or something. Imps: I'm not sure about the "instant falling Elohim" for an Infernal Intervention. In retrospect it seems sort'a powerful. On the other hand, since they have so little chance of succeeding and are in a world of trouble if they fail, I dunno. It needs some thought. Knight of Kinetics: Probably needs a revision, in retrospect it seems a bit over the top. But to keep it as is, the notes need to point out that damaging non-living objects still causes Disturbance. It just causes less of a Disturbance than directly damaging a human. DS1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 04:54:35 -0700 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: RE: IN> Exciting New Contest! On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Kanako Otaku delivered unto us: >>Jon, Shedite Prince of Exploding Animals Pretty funny, but one small point. >>Basic Rites: >>-feed an animal C4. That in itself won't blow them up. C4 is pretty stable stuff. Otherwise, pretty enjoyable. I like the idea of random explosions in Hell that are not cause by Vapula. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:01:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Song of WTF I spent several seconds puzzling over the acronym until somebody played CelWTF on me. An... interesting... concept, Gregg. 0:> ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." -- Frank Zappa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:05:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: RE: IN> Exciting New Contest! - --- Kanako Otaku wrote: > Jon, Shedite Prince of Exploding Animals Okaaaaay... if you were trying to push the "Wierd" button, you succeeded in spades. }:> ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." -- Frank Zappa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2702 ********************************