in_nomine-digest Friday, August 2 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2731 In this digest: Re: IN> ...Ur. Re: IN> Quick Question IN> Just a minor request RE: IN>Fallen Words Re: IN>Fallen Words Re: IN> ...Ur. Re: IN>Fallen Words Re: IN> Just a minor request Re: IN>Fallen Words Re: IN>Fallen Words Re: IN>Fallen Words IN> Modal (Celestial) IN> Nybbas' Pokemon IN> Fallen Words Re: IN>Fallen Words Re: IN> Nybbas' Pokemon Re: IN>Fallen Words Re: IN> Just a minor request IN> The Last Laugh (Commander Kobal Pt. III) Re: IN> ...Ur. Re: IN> Modal (Celestial) Re: IN> Nybbas' Pokemon IN> I Think I'll Disappear Now Re: IN>Fallen Words Re: IN> ...Ur. IN>Darklings, Sin Incarnate Re: IN> ...Ur. RE: IN> Andrea... (Re: Novalis, Demon Princess of Lust) Re: IN> Feline vessels ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:13:10 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> ...Ur. WAI! Me being both a Mac fan *and* a Redemption fan, this whole thing was just meltingly cool! Cute pic, lovely "testimonials", and the whole concept is just awesome. Definitely going in the save file. And, just to make myself clear: WAI! %^) Hee hee. William ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:55:39 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> Quick Question > tethers in a way that I can't think of a way to prevent him from doing. IE, > possessing people, and using their memories to inconspicuously scope out > said tether. Force Catchers. If you have to ask what they are, go buy Liber Reliquarum. Think "vacuum cleaner for possessing Forces". - -- Casca "Many people hear voices when no-one is there. Some of them are called mad and are shut up in rooms where they stare at the walls all day. Others are called writers and they do pretty much the same thing." --Margaret Chittenden, writer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:09:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Kanako Otaku Subject: IN> Just a minor request Anyone want to proof read or beta read this fic i'm working on? Technically, it's my first serious attempt at In Nomine fiction. Just e-mail me privately so I can send it to you. I don't write more if it's not very good. Can't send it to Fanfiction.net for comments, no IN section. (Any Lilim who can get them to open that up for me gets an automatic Geas/5 on me) So I go here. Warning: Considering my current state of mind, it might end up too...uhm...romantic for a few. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 04:33:33 -0100 From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Subject: RE: IN>Fallen Words - -----Original Message----- From: Sirea Theyal [mailto:sireabloodtear@hotmail.com] Yay! Okay, so far then the full list of Word changes are... War -> Infernal War/Armageddon/Brutality/Barbarism/Conquest/Violence The only two - bits I have on this is that I feel "Conflict" fits Mike better. Or maybe "Supremacy" Take Mike's focus on being the best and twist it to the worst application. Struggle for the sake of showing you are superior, which could take it into places that pure physical violence doesn't go. Showing your superiority at chess, debate, getting lovers, showing your superiority over your lover, over your children. Seems more "AA" like than Barbarism or Brutality. Infernal War is just saying he trades places with Baal. Armageddon is just too narrow for an AA. Hmm. One more thought. Malphas as "Debate" which would be intelligent promotion of differences. Sure, people are different and have different ideas, and sometimes by mixing the two, something stronger and better is discovered, In the very least, you have a better understanding of someone else after you have had a discussion with them, even if you do not change your opinion on the issue. Or to go Star Trek, Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations. DS1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 23:00:16 -0700 From: WonderGecko Subject: Re: IN>Fallen Words On 01.08.2002 10:33 PM, "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" wrote: > Hmm. One more thought. Malphas as "Debate" which would be intelligent > promotion of differences. Sure, people are different and have different > ideas, and sometimes by mixing the two, something stronger and better is > discovered ... Malphas, Archangel of Hegelian Dialectics? I dig. *runs away before someone throws something at her* - --Kim, Angel of Random Enthusiasm ==== "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved." - -- William Jennings Brian ==== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 23:05:46 -0700 From: WonderGecko Subject: Re: IN> ...Ur. On 01.08.2002 9:13 PM, "William J. Keith" wrote: > WAI! > > Me being both a Mac fan *and* a Redemption fan, this whole thing was just > meltingly cool! Cute pic, lovely "testimonials", and the whole concept is > just awesome. Definitely going in the save file. > > And, just to make myself clear: WAI! %^) Hee hee. Aww, I'm glad you like it. :) I'm a lot the same way, and the iSeraph idea jumped into my head just a little before they starting running the 'Switch' ads. So it hibernated a little bit, and this hopped out. :) I'm awfully glad it was so well received! Thank you sooo much. n_n - --Kim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:40:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Kanako Otaku Subject: Re: IN>Fallen Words >Malphas, Archangel of Hegelian Dialectics? I dig. >*runs away before someone throws something at her* Now why would anyone do that? Makes sense to me. Since Malphas is a Shedite, he Redeems into a Kyriotate right? It jsut occured to me that there are no current Kyriotate Arhcangels. Odd. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 02:56:01 -0500 From: "Gregg Forge" Subject: Re: IN> Just a minor request >Anyone want to proof read or beta read this fic i'm >working on? Dibs. Hook me up. >Warning: Considering my current state of mind, it >might end up too...uhm...romantic for a few. > And this is a bad thing how? Especially in the euphemistic sense? Kamika-Z, who must be going modal...never perceived Geas before... _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 08:55:53 +0000 From: "Fallen Seraph" Subject: Re: IN>Fallen Words >From: Kanako Otaku >Since Malphas is a Shedite, he Redeems into a >Kyriotate right? It jsut occured to me that there are >no current Kyriotate Arhcangels. Odd. execpt Jordi of course. maybe thats why he's so angry all the time. keeps getting forgotten about... - -Fallenseraph "tausend graue Mäuse mit blauen Mäusehäusern" http://www.geocities.com/archangel_nine ICQ: 110193631 _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 05:17:03 -0400 From: Michael Bruner Subject: Re: IN>Fallen Words At 10:41 AM 8/1/2002 -0700, you wrote: >--- G N E Z D A wrote: > > I don't think the Word would change, regardless of > > whether or not the > > Superior changes, unless *humanity* changed their > > perception of the Word. > > Not so. Humanity's perception of Love is pretty much the >same as it's always been (though the emphasis changes >periodically), but Andrealphus still Fell. Come to think >of it, Laughter hasn't changed much in humanity's eyes, >either (Western media gives a skewed view of this, but >Western society is not even close to being most of the >world). Canon strongly suggests that Falling or Redeeming >at least damages a Celestial's connection to a Word. I get the impression it outright strips the Word (given that you've utterly cut yourself off from God/Lucifer, that makes a certain sense), but on the rare occasions Word-Bound change sides they tend to be sponsored for an equivalent Word in recognition of their obvious talents in the area in question (Hell might outright make that part of the package to encourage Jumping). Of course, you're probably going to be vetted for loyalty before getting the Word, unless God/Lucifer decide to speed things up for their own purposes or Hell made that part of the deal to get you. Not sure what yo-yoing would do for Word-Bound though, especially if someone else took up your Word while you were gone (has a celestial getting the exact same word as another who changed sides but remains alive ever happened in canon? Thought so, but memory's failing me as to who). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 11:36:49 +0000 From: "carson young" Subject: Re: IN>Fallen Words Did Jordi fall in your campaign? I'm almost definite he's a kyrio. > > >Malphas, Archangel of Hegelian Dialectics? I dig. > > >*runs away before someone throws something at her* > >Now why would anyone do that? Makes sense to me. > >Since Malphas is a Shedite, he Redeems into a >Kyriotate right? It jsut occured to me that there are >no current Kyriotate Arhcangels. Odd. > Carson Young, habbalite of GM's _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 09:31:53 -0400 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> Modal (Celestial) Now that's funny. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 09:31:52 -0400 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> Nybbas' Pokemon >> Nybbas' Pokemon. > > Argh!! Even here I can't be rid of those damn cutsie > evils!! This is a prime example of The Media and > Cute's work going *way* too far. > > Nintendo must pay for creating Pokemon!!! What's interesting is that one of Nintendo's selling points is that it's less gory than the other systems. No mangled bodies or brilliant sprays of blood here! (Unless the game is translated from another system.) Is this to desensitize the kids, by making targets seem even less alive? Or is it so that if the kids do perform a violent act, they are shocked and appalled by the gore? So, which Superior is behind which system? Nintendo ? Jean PS2 ? Nybbas XboX ? Vapula (Is is from MicroSwoft, after all) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 09:31:53 -0400 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> Fallen Words > War -> Infernal War/Armageddon Hubris > Stone -> Unity/Communism/Assimilation Rigidity/Stagnation/Fossilisation/Ossification/Brittleness - Which makes me think of all those Order vs Chaos stories where Order represents a kind of paralysis, or inflexible rigidity. >> the Sword -> the Blade > Blades sounds better, and doesn't embody the perfection of one weapon. it > also sounds nastier. (imagine Lawrence in a black suit of armour, covered in > wickedly sharp silver scythes that glimmer with hellish runes. mmmmm. yummy) > Honor? Perfection? Nobility? Superiority? And a servitor of his could be referred to as a 'Blade.' They could wear cool leather jackets and ride motorcycles. "We're gonna rumble wit' the Blades, man." Word of Gangs/Mobs? > Children -> No idea actually... Sterility > Protection -> Assassination?/"Covert Operations"? Isolation (Isolationism) > Knowledge -> Power? Misinformation (http://www15.brinkster.com/ugwump/IN/pete.html) > *DP Words* > Gluttony -> I am extremely fond of Gusto, or maybe Bounty Nutrition? ;) >Freedom -> Liberation Forgiveness/Redemption > Fire -> Inspiration Industry - Like a blast furnace. > Greed -> can't think of one Communism (In the Classic sense of, "From them according to their ability, to them according to their need.") > Hardcore -> eh... can't get a good one now Easy Listening - No, wait, that would leave him in service to Hell. Slack - If the Rev. J. Bob Dobbs don't mind. > Rapine -> Ew... I dunno Empathy/Sympathy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:28:54 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN>Fallen Words From: "Kanako Otaku" > > It jsut occured to me that there are > no current Kyriotate Arhcangels. Two words: Jordi. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:44:39 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Nybbas' Pokemon From: "BC Petery" > > XboX ? Vapula (Is is from MicroSwoft, after all) Nah, too good a system to be from him. Although Andre might be the driving force behind some of the games, like Dead Or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball (and no, I am not kidding about that one.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 10:00:51 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN>Fallen Words My recommendations: Flowers -> Sloth Stone -> Cruelty Fire -> Fire (Belial and Gabriel trade styles of Fire) Trade -> Greed Children -> Children (It's what he wants to DO with the kids that's hellish.) Freedom -> Liberty Greed -> Prosperity Drugs -> Healing Hardcore -> Zeal Disease -> Health Sloth -> Peace ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 14:11:47 +0000 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> Just a minor request >Warning: Considering my current state of mind, it >might end up too...uhm...romantic for a few. > Do you mean "romantic?" I like romance and would be delighted to read (and proofread) your work. Do you mean "sexually explicit?" I'm not the droid you're looking for. Janet Anderson _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:31:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan M Roth Subject: IN> The Last Laugh (Commander Kobal Pt. III) (Here's the last section of the Kobal writeup; rough draft) Additional Servitor Attunements: Gigglefit: An angel with this attunement can inflict an screaming case of the giggles on a target. Anyone so inflicted will be completely unable to stop giggling for the duration of the effect. The effect costs at least one note of Essence, and lasts for (angel's Ethereal Forces)*(Essence Spent) hours. At the beginning of each hour the target may attempt to stop giggling with a Will roll, but this is initially done at a penalty equal to the Essence spent. The penalty decreases by one every two hours. A person giggling has a penalty of the angel's Ethereal Forces to any action which requires concentration, or social interactions in which giggling is not appropriate. (Note: Giggling while talking to your Superior is usually not appropriate. Giggling while talking to Asmodeus or Kronos is _never_ appropriate.) Tickle-Me Kobal: This isn't an attunement so much as a servant; a great percentage of Laughter's Servitors have at one time or another possessed one of these. Tickle-Me Kobal appears as a plush stuffed toy or doll; in most respects it is indistinguishable from any number of Earthly toys. The doll is actually a specially constructed Vessel/3 for Reliever spirits; in order to use one of these, the Reliever must already have chosen which choir (excepting Kyriotates) it intends to fledge as. The Vessel grants the Reliever the ability to use that choir's resonance once a day while on Earth; the Reliever may also use that Choir's Laughter Attunement once a day. The Vessel also has a built-in Role/3 (Status/1). As for the CP cost, treat Tickle-Me Kobal as a specialized Vessel which costs 15 CP (9 for the Vessel, 1 for the Role, 5 for the powers). This either comes from a servant's CP total or, if used by a player playing a Reliever, the character's own CP. It is impossible for a non-Reliever to use a Tickle-Me Kobal vessel. The point of Tickle-Me Kobal should be obvious to the astute. They provide the perfect way to train Relievers to Earth duty, while giving them the chance to practice the resonance they intend to acquire, a significant Role to conceal their activities and errors, all while under the watchful eye of a more experienced angel. Many of Laughter's best Servitors started out as little dolls. The first Laughter angel to use such a vessel was Christopher, who is now the Angel of Children. Superior Opinions: Blandine: "One who has hope laughs often. Many can laugh with Kobal leading the Host, for he does the job well." _Blandine is a vital part of the War effort; what we can learn from humanity's dreams alone is invaluable. I'm glad we enjoy good relations; I just wish I could make her laugh a bit more often_ David: "God called back Uriel, and chose Kobal to take his place. It is not my place to argue with that decision. Its wisdom or folly will become apparent in the fullness of time." _David is my rook, my 'immovable object' on the board, and yet the enemy is still often surprised at the rapidity at which I can move him into position. That's always worth a chuckle_ Dominic: "I watch him. I wait. And I pray my duties don't require me to call yet another trial." _He worries too much, but I guess that's the way God made him. I wish there was a way I could help him relax, but my very position is the main cause of his tension nowadays. It didn't help that I ok'ed Eli's sabbatical_ Eli: "He's my brother. I couldn't be prouder." _I understand Eli well. We're practically cut from the same cloth, he and I. When he wanted to leave Heaven for a while, I didn't need to know why. I know he's doing God's work wherever he is_ Gabriel: "I am pained, and I receive no solace from the Commander of the Host. But what could he do, save try to distract me from my pain? Flames can laugh, but mine will not til all is mended." _One day, I hope she will forgive me. I need her to stay where she is for now -- there's a knight I need to draw out further into the playing field..._ Haggenti: "I am what I have become because of Laughter. It saved my soul, and I shall put all my energy into supporting Kobal's effort to save more souls. It is only right." _Haggenti's Redemption has paid more dividends than I could have thought to dream of...I've never regreted the risks I took then_ Janus: "Hee, hee. I wonder if Kobal's appointment was God's little joke..but he seems to understand my needs and drives, and works them into whatever plans he's got whirling about in his head." _The mayhem that is Janus's trademark, properly applied, can produce such aggravation in the Enemy that I sometimes don't stop laughing for days. The trick is the 'properly applied' part_ Jean: "Were it necessary for me to determine Laughter's ultimate plan of in the War, I could do so. However, given the likely complexity of interdependant variables, the reward/effort ratio would be minimal. Comfort can be taken in this, for the Enemy is not known for patience or diligence." _Lightning is one of the primary bishops on the board -- best suited to support advancing pieces, and provide a surpise or two..._ Jordi: "Animals know of Laughter, too. But he is an Mercurian, and thus biased towards humanity. If he would see beyond that new range in Creation, and see all that is at risk, we might find cause to laugh more often." _Jordi operates in an area few others have an understanding of, and so assumes I don't understand his charges. This is not true -- who do you think it was that taught hyenas to laugh?_ Khalid: "In selecting Laughter to lead us, Allah has said we are to carry on this War with lightness in our hearts, for our faith in Him will lead us to final victory." _There was a time when I lacked faith, faith in myself, and my ability to lead. I don't believe Khalid ever lost faith in me and God's decision; his example has helped me in many ways_ Laurence: "Why must we waste our time with these antics? Why must we connive and scheme when there are battles to be fought? Why must he ALWAYS SMIRK AT ME?" _Sometimes, I think the Symphony created Laurence just so that I and mine could have a stress release valve. It's not that I don't value him -- far from it. He has exceptional skills, even if I have trick him in using them properly. But sometimes he just presents me a target I just can't pass up _ Marc: "Kobal understands that there is more going on in this War than battling demons. He understands the value of resources and opportunities almost as well as I do. We could do a lot worse than him." _Trade is a vital player in this War for many reasons, not the least of which is the fact that it isn't obvious that he is a vital player. And hey, have you ever seen the look on a demon's face when they realize their Role doesn't have enough cash or credit left to buy a gumball? Priceless_ Michael: "Devious. Creative. Perceptive. These all describe Kobal. He is also aware of his own limitations, and lets me do my job on my own terms. He has my support." _'Twould be folly not to realize the importance of Michael. I can lay my plans and manipulate the pieces, but eventually it will come down to battle. For that time I will rely on Michael, and I know he will not let me down_ Novalis: "Kobal's a cutie, alright. Not at all like Uriel was, thank Heaven. We needed someone in charge with a lighter touch, and more interest in saving humanity instead of vanquishing Hell." _She's stronger than most give her credit for. And, truly, I do long for a time of peace, when I can go back to being Heaven's comedian instead of Heaven's Commander. And so I support her efforts when I can_ Yves: "God chose to smile upon Laughter, so that we all may yet smile with laughter." _Yves is the best pipeline to the mind of God we have left, and I always listen when he speaks. I'm glad I don't have his job - -- keeping track of the myriad possibilities of humanity's Destiny would be a bit much even for me_ Zadkiel: "Laughter can't always shield one from harm. Luckily, Kobal knows when extra protection is called for." _She's like Laurence in a lot of ways, but her focus is often more useful to me. I direct her into positions where she can shield and interdirect_ Andrealphus: "Itching power on latex. IS. NOT. FUNNY." _Rather than try to crush Lust, I redirect his efforts, twisting his intentions and making the end results less Hellish for humanity. Sex can be awfully funny at times, and if humans end up laughing about it, they're supporting my Word, not his_ Asmodeus: "Heaven's 'Commander' thinks of himself as a game player. He has forgotten that I invented the game; I will relish it when he realizes this fact." _Asmodeus can be tricky, but his defeat lies in his arrogance. The only games he's played are the ones where he can change the rules -- every so often I remind him that I can change the rules too_ Baal: "I wanted a worthy opponent, and they give me a clown. I look forward to cutting him down, if only so that they will be forced to find a more worthy replacement." _Baal wants me dead, and wants to do it himself. This just means that I have yet another handle by which to manipulate his actions_ Beleth: "Who will feel like laughing when I have crushed their hopes and destroyed their dreams? Who will laugh when their lives are living Nightmares?" _Laughter banishes fear. It amazes me to see how often Beleth forgets this. With my support, I believe Blandine will have the Marches under her control very shortly_ Belial: "He makes light of me and my works, and for that I will burn away all of his. His clowns will roast in my fires, his Soldiers will be incinerated. HE WILL BURN." _I've focused a lot of my attention on Belial. I poke and prod him endlessly, pushing him into position. I have my reasons, but this stage of the plan is almost over. It will end with Belial's death_ Kronos: "Too often the Clown has meddled in my affairs. Too often has Laughter drawn away souls from the pit. He will be stopped." _The best way to deal with Fate is to make sure his Servitors fail. He is so harsh on them that a few failures equates to removing that Servitor from the board. Easier to let him do it than to do it myself_ Lilith: "Laughter has made me many offers. Several were quite tempting. I shall wait and see if, in the end, taking them will be more profitable than staying put." _I am always looking for ways to draw Lilith into Heaven's fold. Say what you like about her; she's still human, and thus deserves our protection as much as any other. We didn't do right by her in the beginning, and I intend to make up for it_ Malphas: "Laughter has the power to divide as well as to bring together. How funny that his tools are the same as mine." _Malphas is an equal-opportunity demon. He'll ply his trade wherever he can. I make sure he has many opportunities to do so in Hell_ Nybbas: "Comedy is cool and all, but how about some more police chases and drive-by assassinations, huh? The people want more than to just laugh - -- they want to see the blood too." _Nybbas has a lot of power and little control over it. In some ways, he's a time bomb waiting to go off. I move very carefully when dealing with him_ Saminga: "The dead do not laugh. Kobal will soon stop laughing." _Like Belial, I focus a lot of attention on Sammy. He is exceedingly easy to direct; I often have him spoil the plans of his fellow Princes_ Valefor: "I can steal laughter, easy. Not much value to it, but sometimes I do it just to prove I can." _Valefor's pride is considerable. Think of that when you want him to do something_ Vapula: "Laughter does not concern me; I only indulge at the completion of a successful experiment." _Technology's rise in power has been surprising to many. Luckily the Word is held by Vapula, rather than someone with an interest in using that power to raise Hell on Earth_ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 16:08:22 +0000 From: "Sirea Theyal" Subject: Re: IN> ...Ur. *SQUEEEE!!!* That's so CUTE! ^^ wai! _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 16:09:30 +0000 From: "Sirea Theyal" Subject: Re: IN> Modal (Celestial) Cool discord! I'm gonna use this in any future games I run for sure... _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 16:27:37 +0000 From: "Sirea Theyal" Subject: Re: IN> Nybbas' Pokemon >What's interesting is that one of Nintendo's selling points is that it's >less gory than the other systems. No mangled bodies or brilliant sprays of >blood here! (Unless the game is translated from another system.) > >Is this to desensitize the kids, by making targets seem even less alive? Or >is it so that if the kids do perform a violent act, they are shocked and >appalled by the gore? > >So, which Superior is behind which system? > >Nintendo ? Jean >PS2 ? Nybbas >XboX ? Vapula (Is is from MicroSwoft, after all) Naw, I say it was Jean who made Playstation 2, Vapula who made Xbox, and Nybass brainchild that became the nintendo systems, which was a human creation originally, until the N64, which REEKED of infernal infulence. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:19:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher Anthony" Subject: IN> I Think I'll Disappear Now Unmemorable (Celestial Discord) This Discord does almost exactly what its name implies - the suffering character simply isn't easy to remember. Anyone encountering the character must make an Intelligence roll, at a penalty equal to half the discord's level (round up), at any later time at which he wants to recall the encounter. Remembering any details about the character, such as his name, hobbies, or tastes in clothing, requires an Intelligence roll at a penalty equal to the Discord's full level. The real trouble begins when the Discord reaches half strength (level 4 or higher), though. At this point, even physical records of the character's existence start vanishing: anyone but the character must make a Perception roll (at a penalty equal to half the level of the Discord, rounded up) to either find a given record (such as a lease agreement) or cross-check a record that the character himself has provided (such as a driver's license). In addition the Symphony itself has trouble remembering that the celestial exists: the GM should roll against the celestial's total Forces, minus the level of this Discord, to determine whether the celestial regains Essence that day. There is a way to counteract this Discord, however, on a temporary basis: a successful Force of Will roll (see the GMG) will negate all effects of this Discord for a number of hours equal to the check digit. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:42:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN>Fallen Words - --- "Steven E. Ehrbar" wrote: > The celestial Word "Communism" now encompasses Stalin, > Mao, the KGB, > the Stasi, the Berlin Wall, the Cultural Revolution, the > Prauge Spring, > the Hungarian Uprising, the Ukranian Famine, Tianamen > Square . . . > making the Word pretty thouroughly Demonic. Which is doubly ironic when you consider that NONE of those things are the result of communism -- they can all be traced to socialism, which also includes the Nazis. Once again the Demon of Misreprentation has been at work. };> =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"There are two things that stand in the way of happy marriages

-- men and women." -- Rev. David Moore

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Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"There are two things that stand in the way of happy marriages

-- men and women." -- Rev. David Moore

__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 18:50:10 +0000 From: "Sirea Theyal" Subject: IN>Darklings, Sin Incarnate (the following is a rough sketch of an idea to be used in a very Dark OR very Bright campaign setting, it was a "race" I made for my GURPS campaign, but thought it could convert sorta good to IN. This is a rough rough draft, without any major game mechanics yet.) *Darklings, Sin Incarnate, byproducts of mankind* As we all know, Hell was (supposedly) a choice of Free Will. Lucifer and a third of the Host chose their Fates, and it was to Fall and reign in the Black Kingdom that is Hell. When they were unleashed upon the World by Lilith, they went about making Heaven very unhappy by messing with mankind- tempting them, defiling them, corrupting them, and basically messing with the Free Will humans had. Well, there was a price to pay for all of that eventually. The sins of mankind and demons dark influence compounded, and eventually took solid and mortal form, that being a Darkling, a mixture of human, darkness, and Fate. Darklings are rare as many do not survive past being born (they are usually killed) but the amount of them is steadily increasing. All of them have the distinguishing characteristic of having pale skin, thick hair that is colored a dark violet, icy blue or midnight black, and haunted, empty eyes that hold no hope. For they know what they are. Darklings have several "powers", which makes them stand out from the rest of mankind. For one, they cannot see darkness. They ARE darkness. They can always see even in absolute darkness, as everything appears to be gray. The light is separate from them totally, they can always see with no darkness penalties. They are all born Symphonically Aware, from their connection to Hell and the Symphony. They almost never get sick, and only something the (dead) Prince of Disease could have cooked up would affect them. They are also very sensitive to the emotions of others (treat as a constant CD of 1 on the Elohim resonance). They all start with 6 Forces, 4 of which always go to the ethereal realm. Darklings are very smart, but never get much chance to use their intellect to good advantage... Lastly, they all know the celestial Song of Light at 6... but instead of light, they produce a beam of searing darkness from their own souls, and using it causes intense and crippling pain, so it is used in emergencies only. What really defines the Darklings however, is their downsides... for one, they cannot STAND sunlight. Being in it causes 1 soul hit of damage per hour, as the Light sears their very being. This is not like vampires, it is not the heat or light that burns them, but the celestial power the sun holds, the Light that they can never be a part of that kills them so slowly. Their body produces no heat, and is always very cold to the touch. Light does not reflect off of their body, they always seem to be slightly in shadow, no matter how much light shines on them. Darklings are always slightly depressed, getting even a small smile out of them is near impossible, they are very sad and despairing. But worst of all is their defining trait... what the Darklings call the Sin. Every darkling, much like a Calabim, must start with one discord at level SIX of their choice, be it celestial, ethereal, or corporeal, and it will NEVER go away. This is the very darkness mankind has let diseased the Symphony, and it congeals within these sad creatures, as their burden to carry until they die, usually alone and hated by all. It would come as a surprise to you to know that quite a few of these beings existed during the black times of Legion and Genubath, as their influence created a number of these beings. Alas, Heaven and Hell was so concerned with these beings that they never noticed the Darklings creation. Also, when Darklings die, they... dissipate. They do not reincarnate, go to Heaven, or to Hell. They simply disperse... after Legion perished and Genubath disappeared, the rate of Darklings declined. But now they are appearing more and more, so Heaven and Hell have finally took notice of these odd creatures that are neither truly celestial nor corporeal in their nature. One question does remain though- can Darklings ever break free of their Sin? Can they ever become with the Light that burns their very souls? Well... yes. It is possible. A Darkling, no matter how unlikely and unknown to the celestials, can "Redeem". *Heliolites, the Blessed, a testament to Free Will* Darkling can Redeem, but this is no task that can be performed by an Archangel. No, instead, the Darkling them self must choose to release themselves from the pain and darkness inside of them, and let the Light fill every last corner of their being. This however, is a mighty difficult thing to achieve. Darklings are harder to Redeem than the most jaded servitor of Fate. They're still human after all, just heavily burdened with the very Sins of mankind. When they do however... the sight of it happening is enough to make a Demon Prince want to consider Redemption. You thought Bright Lilim were happy? Sure, they are, but they look dour compared to a new Heliolite. They tend to be the most optimistic and loving beings you'll ever know. And what's better, it's not even in an obnoxious or annoying way. Heliolites simply exude the very best qualities of mankind in them, and the love they radiate is enough to make Novalis blush with envy. Heliolites forces stay in the same realms, mainly ethereal. They lose the ability to see in the dark, as they can finally see shadows and the darkness as something separate from themselves. They are still disease resistant and can sense peoples emotions as before. They can no longer use the Celestial Song of (anti)Light. They lose there damned Sin, and are cleaned of all negative traits. They are an EXTREME rarity, you'll probably never see one. Their skin takes on a healthy tone, and their hair is always colored a cherry red, sun gold, or a pale and snowy white. Their eyes are bright and happy, as they have finally realized that they need not be bound to Fate. Oddly enough, even they disperse when they die, but they seem all the happier to return to the Symphony as pure and happy beings. (Well, there you go. I know it's pretty rough and unrefined, but I dug this up and modified the wording to fit the IN terms. I just wanted to share it and get some suggestions. And yes, I know it spits in Canon's face ^_^ ) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 15:36:08 -0500 From: "Gregg Forge" Subject: Re: IN> ...Ur. >--- WonderGecko wrote: > > Why I do these things, I'm not entirely sure. > > Kim, you're a sick woman and I'm glad I know you. Just >don't do the Linux Ethereals and we're cool. 0:;:> > I'm already three blocks ahead, on that one. There shall be a reckoning. (^_^) Kamika-Z, indulging in maniacal laughter! _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:39:30 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: RE: IN> Andrea... (Re: Novalis, Demon Princess of Lust) At 8:52 PM -0700 7/31/02, Kanako Otaku wrote: >I seem to recall a line in the description of Andre in >In Nomine Anime about "he regards mere rape as tacky" >if I recall correclty. Ahhhhh, yes, that does ring bells. Mind, that's ANIME Andre. IN Anime does have a little disclaimer that it will fold, bend, mutilate, or tie up and flog canon whenever it so desires. O:> - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:46:39 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Feline vessels At 7:05 PM +0930 8/1/02, G N E Z D A wrote: >Hey folks, >I'm under the impression that the Liber Servitorum has rules and stats for >animals. Er, sorry, it doesn't. (What gave you that impression...) >If this is the case, can someone please email me the stats and >special abilities for cats (both the big ones and small ones) You know, this could be construed as a copyright violation request, depending on the amount of data... But, happily, all that information that might exist is in the main book, p. 191. O:> >and, if there is anything, perhaps any rules there may be on animal vessels? Core Rules, p. 48, Celestial Vessels box. Game Master's Guide, pp. 18-19, with particular focus on the Unusual Vessels box on p. 19. - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2731 ********************************