in_nomine-digest Friday, August 16 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2742 In this digest: Re: IN>Beelzebub, DP of Corruption IN> Eli sent me a dream... Re: IN> Eli sent me a dream... Re: IN> Eli sent me a dream... Re: IN> Eli sent me a dream... Re: IN> Eli sent me a dream... Re: IN> Eli sent me a dream... Re: IN> Eli sent me a dream... Re: IN> Eli sent me a dream... Re: IN>Beelzebub, DP of Corruption Re: IN> Eli sent me a dream... Re: IN> Weird Superior Contest: Valefor, Ofanite Archangel of Dreams Re: IN>Beelzebub, DP of Corruption IN> Logo IN> ARGH! The reason for back-ups of back-ups Re: IN> ARGH! The reason for back-ups of back-ups Re: IN> ARGH! The reason for back-ups of back-ups Re: IN> Eli sent me a dream... Re: IN> Eli sent me a dream... IN> Live from the War... Re: IN> Live from the War... Re: IN> Logo ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 21:23:42 +0000 From: "Sirea Theyal" Subject: Re: IN>Beelzebub, DP of Corruption > >*Choir Attunements* > Yeah, yeah, get your Nitpick essence right here... I accidently used the Heavenly Superior template I have saved when I made this guy. Change to Band Attunements, you nitpickers you -_-; _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 22:33 +0100 (BST) From: jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) Subject: IN> Eli sent me a dream... Leastways, I hope it was Eli... Scene: the colours you get with your eyes closed Narrator: Dominic's organisation is charged with detecting heresy, treason and so on amongst angels. These are serious crimes - sometimes executions are necessary. Narrator: So, Dominic has executioners - not many, but no doubt more than one. They're probably Malakim. Undoubtedly, they have a leader. Me: You mean... Narrator: Yes, a Lord High Executioner. Scene: Curtains fly back to reveal the entire Seraphim Council, singing at the tope of their voices: SC: "Defer, Defeeerrr, to the Lord High Executioner! Defer, Defeeerrr, to the Lord High Executioner! If this makes no sense, you're probably not familiar with Gilbert & Sullivan's opera _The Mikado_, which has the interesting property of being an entirely general-purpose political satire - whatever the situation, The Mikado forms a witty satire on it. Or maybe it was Kobal? - --- John Dallman jgd@cix.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 16:47:11 -0600 From: "Wade Lahoda" Subject: Re: IN> Eli sent me a dream... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Dallman" > SC: "Defer, Defeeerrr, to the Lord High Executioner! > Defer, Defeeerrr, to the Lord High Executioner! I love you man. But now I can't stop trying to cast the entire production with In Nomine characters... =) "As some day it may happen that a victim must be found, I've got a little list - I've got a little list Of discord-ridden angels who might well be underground, And who never would be missed - who never would be missed!" Chorus: "He's got 'em on the list-he's got 'em on the list; And they'll none of 'em be missed-they'll none of 'em be miss'd!" Of course, updating the little list song to In Nomine would be top priority... =) Hrm... Koko, Lord High Executioner Malakite Lord High Executioner(Unique Distinction of Judgement) Nah, I won't subject you guys to this. ;) A. Wade Lahoda ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 23:58 +0100 (BST) From: jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) Subject: Re: IN> Eli sent me a dream... lahoda@dlcwest.com (Wade Lahoda) wrote: > Nah, I won't subject you guys to this. ;) Oh yes you will! - --- John Dallman jgd@cix.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 17:01:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Kanako Otaku Subject: Re: IN> Eli sent me a dream... This whole dream sounds more like a collaboration between Beleth and Kobal to me. (Hmm.....) ===== "The dead have one thing going for them that the living don't." "They're dead." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 00:20:31 +0000 From: "Sirea Theyal" Subject: Re: IN> Eli sent me a dream... *ggigles* I don't get it, but I LOVE it all the same ^-^ I can just imagine Dominic singing a heavy bass, Novalis with an opera alto, and suddenly Jean bursts into a gorgeous soprono solo... *laughs* Lucky you- only IN dream I had I can remember is of Legion and Raphaeal killing each other... _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 00:22:25 +0000 From: "Sirea Theyal" Subject: Re: IN> Eli sent me a dream... >Hrm... > >Koko, Lord High Executioner >Malakite Lord High Executioner(Unique Distinction of Judgement) > > Nah, I won't subject you guys to this. ;) > Go ahead anyways, as long as he likes singning ^.^ _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 17:26:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Kanako Otaku Subject: Re: IN> Eli sent me a dream... My only IN dream was one where a bunch of Malakim of Lightning were planning on raiding Tartarus, somehow got lost into Perdition (Huh?) and ended up as bodyguards for one of Nybass' girl bands, composed solely of Lilim. Damn pizza, mustard, lasagna and black coffee in the middle on the night.... ===== "The dead have one thing going for them that the living don't." "They're dead." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 00:29:11 +0000 From: "Sirea Theyal" Subject: Re: IN> Eli sent me a dream... >This whole dream sounds more like a collaboration between Beleth and >Kobal to me. (Hmm.....) I say either Kobal did it, or Dominic when he drank something out of Eli's fridge... and woke up 4 days later with a headache, his robes painted with little yellow suns, reeking of chinese food, and a small squad of relievers sqeaking with laughter... and the tape with said "dream" had been spread by Servitors of War so far and wide than no inquisition could stop it. Asmodeus was reported to been seen "with his cheeks puffed out from restrained laughter, and tears rolling down his face". Don't ask me what Michael had to say. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 21:10:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN>Beelzebub, DP of Corruption - --- Sirea Theyal wrote: > Beelzebub, Djinn Demon Prince of Corruption > > "The World is to be tainted... made into a rotting > husk..." > > *Dissonance* This looks good. > *Choir Attunements* I presume you mean Band Attunements? };> > Balseraphim: For every level of discord/disadvantage that > the target of the > Balseraphs resonance has, they will have a -1 to the roll > to resist the resonance. Thumbs up. > Djinn: Whoever Djinn of Corruption attune to, they will > slowly become > corrupt as if they were being ridden by a Shedite! Treat > the attuned as > being possessed by a Shedite as long as the Djinn is > attuned to the target. > If the Djinn breaks the attunement early, then all of the > corruption will go away. Seems to me that this should require some input from the Djinn if not his physical presence. Maybe allowing them to make corruptive suggestions, and their Attuned have a penalty to resist... > Calabim: These Calabim can cause insidious and lasting > damage. If they so > choose, the damage they do with their resonance can be > double what the check > digit was, but the damage will come at one point per hour This is amazingly similar to the Calabite Attunement that I came up with for Pazuzu, Shedite Princess of Plagues (you weren't on the list yet when that went by, methinks; I'll send it to you). > Habbalah: For every successful use of their resonance, > the Habbalah's target > will find it harder and harder to resist their own > emotions. Treat this as > any emotional discord or disadvantage the target has as > being effectively > one higher for every time the Habbalah succeeds at their > resonance on the target. My problem with this is that only Superiors are supposed to be able to impose Discord on Celestials (on a permanent basis, anyway). A cumulative penalty to resist a certain emotion seems more balanced. > Honorium: [snip] For every successful hit they > landed, their targets Will would go down by one, > recovering at the rate of 1 every 2 rounds. Thus making the target more vulnerable to demonic Resonance -- nasty. > Lilim: These Lilim would automatically know the Needs of > any corrupted > individual. Treat this as being able to sense the > individuals level of Need > based of the highest Discord or Disadvantage they had. So > if an angel had > Anger/4, the Lilim would be able to see up to his > Needs/4. This is more balanced if it's limited to Needs associated with the Discord/Disadvantage. It should also give the Lilim a bonus to Geas the subject after fulfilling such a Need. > Shedim: A terrifying precursor to Legion, these Shedim > automatically > succeeded in possessing anyone, and could selectively > corrupt their host. > They could choose to degrade morals, health, the mind, > the soul, anything they chose. This needs mucho clarification. > The Black Hand: Whatever these demons touched would be > subtly corrupted, > softening them for the more heavy things. For 4 essence, > whenever the demon > touched a human, they would do something in the next 24 > hours that was > totally out of their moral realm. This definitely needs a resistance roll. > Heart of Darkness: These demons could spend 1 essence and > know which of the > seven sins their target could be most easily corrupted > by. While this always > showed the Truth, it never meant that the actual > corruption would be easy... Heh. You definitely need to read Pazuzu's write-up. > Degradation: These demons could impose their own discords > on someone else, for substantial essence cost. Again, needs a resistance roll. > As Above, So Below: Upon touching their target, these > demons could see in > their mind the absolute lowest depths that the target > could go. This was not > the same as seeing the persons Fate- while the vision > they received could > certainly be part of the persons Fate, it only showed the > potential depths that the targets soul could reach. Seems to me that this could be an aspect of Heart of Darkness. > *Distinctions* > > Captain of the Rotted Heart: These twisted demons could > force the dissonance > an angel or demon had to double in value I have major problems with this. Used on PC's it can potentially destroy a character concept. > Baron of the Infinite Fall: These dark masters had a > powerful ability... > they could force an angel to Fall. NO. FREAKIN'. WAY. > *Other Distinctions* > > The Fallen: This was a unique distinction that Beelzebub > gave out to a large > number of his valued servitors. This distinction > supposedly stopped anyone > who had served Corruption to ever Redeem, much like how > Uriels angels could > never Fall. [shudder] > -Permanently corrupt something that was once pure > -Sit in a pool of waste or filth for 6 hours > -Eat the flesh of a decomposed and decaying corpse > -Kill a servitor of Purity (+2 essence) > -Make an angel Fall (+3 essence) Ick. Spared no effort on the Rites, did you? };> =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

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Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"There are two things that stand in the way of happy marriages

-- men and women." -- Rev. David Moore

__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 23:03:33 -0700 From: edenesque@juno.com Subject: Re: IN> Weird Superior Contest: Valefor, Ofanite Archangel of Dreams Wow. I honestly never would have thought of this one. I like it also. A bit hard to justify him suddenly becoming the AA of Dreams, but it works all the same ^_^<<< Thanks! :) I wanted to go for something a little unusual and weird. And I'll be getting around to the Princely Opinions soon. I just wanted to get this out first before the Contest ended. :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 14:42:04 +0000 From: "Sirea Theyal" Subject: Re: IN>Beelzebub, DP of Corruption > > *Choir Attunements* > > I presume you mean Band Attunements? };> Nitpick rite... >.< > > > Djinn: Whoever Djinn of Corruption attune to, they will > > slowly become > > corrupt as if they were being ridden by a Shedite! Treat > > the attuned as > > being possessed by a Shedite as long as the Djinn is > > attuned to the target. > > If the Djinn breaks the attunement early, then all of the > > corruption will go away. > > Seems to me that this should require some input from the >Djinn if not his physical presence. Maybe allowing them to >make corruptive suggestions, and their Attuned have a >penalty to resist... Yeah, they do need to be in the prescence of their attuned for it to work. Maybe have the victim roll vs will minus the demons eth forces to resist suggestions? > This is amazingly similar to the Calabite Attunement that >I came up with for Pazuzu, Shedite Princess of Plagues (you >weren't on the list yet when that went by, methinks; I'll >send it to you). Spoo... I just read it, and your right -_- I wanted to get across the image of lasting corruption and diseasing of the body with this one. I'll try to make it more unique. > > > Habbalah: For every successful use of their resonance, > > the Habbalah's target > > will find it harder and harder to resist their own > > emotions. Treat this as > > any emotional discord or disadvantage the target has as > > being effectively > > one higher for every time the Habbalah succeeds at their > > resonance on the target. > > My problem with this is that only Superiors are supposed >to be able to impose Discord on Celestials (on a permanent >basis, anyway). A cumulative penalty to resist a certain >emotion seems more balanced. Oh, they can't impose a discord on someone, they can only enhance ones that are already there, with "phantom levels". If someone has lustful/3 for instance, and the Habbalah suceeds on it's resonance roll for that emotion, then the lustful discord will be treated as being /4, until either the victim gives in to the discord in an appropriately corrupt way, in which the phantom levels dissapear, or the Habbalh suceeds again, in which the discord increases. This is kinda complicated though... guess I'll change it if that doesn't work. > > > Lilim: These Lilim would automatically know the Needs of > > any corrupted > > individual. Treat this as being able to sense the > > individuals level of Need > > based of the highest Discord or Disadvantage they had. So > > if an angel had > > Anger/4, the Lilim would be able to see up to his > > Needs/4. > > This is more balanced if it's limited to Needs associated >with the Discord/Disadvantage. It should also give the >Lilim a bonus to Geas the subject after fulfilling such a >Need. I need to read up on the exact mechanics of the Lilim discord again- wish I hadn't lost my main rulebook... oh well, birthday is coming up soon ^_~ but your right, it should be limited to the specific discord, since they probably will have plenty of Needs relating to it to begin with. > > > Shedim: A terrifying precursor to Legion, these Shedim > > automatically > > succeeded in possessing anyone, and could selectively > > corrupt their host. > > They could choose to degrade morals, health, the mind, > > the soul, anything they chose. > > This needs mucho clarification. I'm still working out how exactly I want this to work- maybe being able to onflict mind/body/soul hits a little at a time? Impose temporary discords? Suggestions anyone? I don't want them to be too munchkin. > > > The Black Hand: Whatever these demons touched would be > > subtly corrupted, > > softening them for the more heavy things. For 4 essence, > > whenever the demon > > touched a human, they would do something in the next 24 > > hours that was > > totally out of their moral realm. > > This definitely needs a resistance roll. Crud, there WAS a will roll line in there, I forgot to put it back in. They *do* get a will roll. > > > Heart of Darkness: > Heh. You definitely need to read Pazuzu's write-up. I did ^_^ hope it doesn't look like I'm stealing... > > > Degradation: These demons could impose their own discords > > on someone else, for substantial essence cost. > > Again, needs a resistance roll. Hmm... yeah, re-reading it makes more sense for that. Will roll it is then. > > > As Above, So Below:> > Seems to me that this could be an aspect of Heart of >Darkness. I decided that after I posted, I want to mesh the two together since they're so similar. > > > *Distinctions* > > > > Captain of the Rotted Heart: These twisted demons could > > force the dissonance > > an angel or demon had to double in value > > I have major problems with this. Used on PC's it can >potentially destroy a character concept. Ack! I forgot to put *temporarily*, for the demons celestial forces hours. And this could not make an angel Fall. I want to revise this one anyway, considering making there be a backlash aspect... > > > Baron of the Infinite Fall: These dark masters had a > > powerful ability... > > they could force an angel to Fall. > > NO. FREAKIN'. WAY. Well, I can imagine no in a time when B was powerful, but when there are a handful of Corruptions servitors left, it isn't that bad. For one, it's an NPC power only. Second, it only works on angels with the seed of Falling in them- I think I'm going to put in Outcast angels only, I forgot about that *important* detail. I'll also remove the penalty on the will roll. > > > *Other Distinctions* > > > > The Fallen: [shudder] Well... could never Redeem unless a certain Divine Intervention came along actually... > > > Ick. Spared no effort on the Rites, did you? };> I could get real nasty on these if you wanted me to ^_~ _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:21:05 -0400 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> Logo > A Free Lilim would likely show the logo of the last organizations with > which she was associated. If this happened to be Lilith herself, then the > Discord would take the form of Lilith's sigil. If she had worked for a > Demon Prince recently, it would take the form of that Prince's sigil. If > she had worked for an Earthly organization, it would take the Earthly > organization's logo. If she left two or more organizations at the same > time and had not been associated with an organization since, the logo would > be randomly selected from among the last organizations. Does this mean the Logo will change if the sufferer forms a new association or is it going to remain as it was when first formed, giving false and misleading information? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:21:05 -0400 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> ARGH! The reason for back-ups of back-ups > Hahaha!! Happens to me all the time. Vapula redeem? I'd rather see him > destroyed by one of his own experiments. Say, one where he tries to > make a canned version of a Calabite's resonance, with, oh, about ninety > times the power..... > > ===== > "The dead have one thing going for them that the living don't." > > "They're dead." Vapula, Undead Demon Prince of Technology Saminga is so jealous. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 15:22:41 +0000 From: "Sirea Theyal" Subject: Re: IN> ARGH! The reason for back-ups of back-ups > >Vapula, Undead Demon Prince of Technology > >Saminga is so jealous. > o_o;; *laughs* on a side note, and totally ironically, I managed to remeber everything about Osiphem, and even managed to finally get some better ideas for her. The destruction of my DP of Destruction made her better... - -Sirea, who is thinking heavily of fledging Cherubim at this point in time, for happy personal reasons _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:45:36 -0400 From: "Roger Williby" Subject: Re: IN> ARGH! The reason for back-ups of back-ups Did you really expect to write up a DP of Destruction without a little destruction(your disk) in your life? _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 18:02 +0100 (BST) From: jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) Subject: Re: IN> Eli sent me a dream... thunderdog_sa@yahoo.com (Michael Walton) wrote: > "My object all supreme, > I shall achieve, I dream, > To make the Hosts of Hell Redeem, > The Hosts of Hell Redeem!" Splendid, splendid! I had thought that the original might survive unchanged, but this is clearly better. So, Eli is clearly the Nanki-Poo role - absent for some time, back disguised as someone else. Gabriel is Katisha, Blandine is Yum-Yum, simply because it scans that way, and Zadkadiel and Novalis are Peep-Bo and Pitti-Sing. And clearly Michael is Pish-Tush and Laurence is Poo-Bah. - --- John Dallman jgd@cix.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 10:26:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Eli sent me a dream... - --- John Dallman wrote: > Splendid, splendid! I had thought that the original might > survive unchanged, but this is clearly better. 10Q! 0:> > So, Eli is clearly the Nanki-Poo role - absent for some > time, back > disguised as someone else. Gabriel is Katisha, Blandine > is Yum-Yum, > simply because it scans that way, and Zadkadiel and > Novalis are Peep-Bo > and Pitti-Sing. And clearly Michael is Pish-Tush and > Laurence is Poo-Bah. And in the final act the Mikado comes down Jacob's Ladder - -- and it's Uriel. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"There are two things that stand in the way of happy marriages

-- men and women." -- Rev. David Moore

__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:40:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Live from the War... ...and it's bloody hot here, let me tell you. Snug This item is not precisely a relic: it doesn't require supernatural energies to function and anybody can use it. On the other hand, it's not what you'd call 'normal', either. Being the reverse-engineered descendant of a Vaputech firearm tends to eliminate all hopes of normalcy. Snug are so called because they remove damage rather than causing it; getting hit by one will restore Body Hits equal to the weapon's Power + CD. As a 'side effect', the target must also roll against Will (minus half the damage healed) or be knocked out for one hour. Snug don't really need to look like firearms, of course; it's a holdover from their original incarnation as 'orgone energy blasters'. The original design never panned out, since a, orgone energy doesn't actually exist; and, b, the radioactivity generated was too exuberant, even by Vaputech's lax standards. Jean's Committee swears that the bugs are all out of the design now. There are several versions of Snug (all eagerly snapped up by SErvitors of Flowers happy to get combat weapons that aren't inherently dissonant to use): Snug Derringer: Power +2, Acc +0, Range 10y, Shots 100 Snug Pistol: Power +4, Acc +1, Range 30y, Shots 12 Snug Shotgun: Power +8, Acc +2, Range 30y, Shots 2 Cost: For Servitors of Jean, nothing and have all the ammo you want; for anybody with the Beta Test Attunement, nothing and just fill out these forms for reasonable reloads; for everybody else... well, best to just go get the Beta Test Attunement, huh? ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/13/02(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 20:18 +0100 (BST) From: jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) Subject: Re: IN> Live from the War... moelane_1999@yahoo.com (Maurice Lane) wrote: > ... it doesn't require supernatural energies to function > and anybody can use it. > ... getting hit by one will restore Body Hits equal to the > weapon's Power + CD. Superscience, or a one-use reliquary in each cartridge? Certain angels, not unconnected with Judgement, are suspicious that it's the latter. > As a 'side effect', the target must also roll against Will (minus > half the damage healed) or be knocked out for one hour. ... > There are several versions of Snug (all eagerly > snapped up by Servitors of Flowers happy to get combat > weapons that aren't inherently dissonant to use): But they're far more effective if the target has been shot up a bit first, given typical demonic Will numbers. Complicity in allowing your companions to damage the target first may not be really dissonant, but it's a bit dodgy... > the radioactivity generated was too exuberant, even by > Vaputech's lax standards. Jean's Committee swears that > the bugs are all out of the design now. OK, I trust them on the radioactivity front. - --- John Dallman jgd@cix.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 17:24:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher Anthony" Subject: Re: IN> Logo BC Petery said: > Does this mean the Logo will change if the sufferer forms a new > association or is it going to remain as it was when first formed, > giving false and misleading information? "This Discord takes the form of a tattoo on a part of the body that is easily obscured by clothing; the tattoo takes the form of an association with which the afflicted celestial is (or was lately) affiliated, even if that involves the sigil of a Choir, Band, Archangel, or Prince. Which association's logo the Discord uses is entirely up to the GM." - -EDG ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2742 ********************************