in_nomine-digest Thursday, August 29 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2757 In this digest: Re: IN> Why do we have wings? Re: IN> Re:Grigori Re: IN> Re:Grigori IN> Introduction and Yves. Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. Re: IN> Why do we have wings? IN> (Oops.) Re: IN> Triad 314 - Techno Remix (PT 1) Re: IN> Re:Grigori Re: IN> Re:Grigori Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. Re: IN> Re:Grigori Re: IN> Re:Grigori RE: IN> Introduction and Yves. Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. RE: IN> Introduction and Yves. Re: IN> Azrael, AA of Passage Re: IN> Wings of Love RE: IN> Introduction and Yves. Re: IN> Wings of Love Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. Re: IN> Azrael, AA of Passage Re: IN> Why do we have wings? Re: IN> That Damn Mercurian Resonance Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. RE: IN> Introduction and Yves. Re: IN> Re:Grigori Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. Re: IN> Azrael, AA of Passage Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. RE: IN> Why do we have wings? RE: IN> Introduction and Yves. Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. RE: IN> Introduction and Yves. Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. RE: IN> Introduction and Yves. Re: IN> Wings of Love ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:45:06 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Why do we have wings? At 9:20 PM -0400 8/27/02, BC Petery wrote: >>Further, feathers warm birds, [...] Demons, on the other hand, fly >>alone and cold." > >"But what about bats?" asked the INitpicker. "Aren't they warm blooded?" Oh, sure. But they shiver a lot and don't get to fluff their feathers. No one said that demons can't be hot-blooded... - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:59:29 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Re:Grigori At 5:20 PM +0930 8/28/02, G N E Z D A wrote: >Can someone please tell me briefly what the resonnances of the Grigori and >Skulkers do? I don't mean specific game mechanics (I wouldn't want Beth to >think I was asking for a copyright breach...), *snicker* They HEAR things. They hear regular disturbance much more keenly, and they can hear things other angels can't. If a demon makes a child cry, they can hear that. If a Kyriotate possesses a human, they hear that. They WATCH. Or maybe, LISTEN. O:> And if they don't know what caused it, or if it's infernal, they can't let that pass -- they must report it to someone. The scouts must report. To someone. - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:19:17 +0000 From: "Sirea Theyal" Subject: Re: IN> Re:Grigori > >*snicker* > >They HEAR things. They hear regular disturbance much more keenly, and they >can hear things other angels can't. If a demon makes a child cry, they >can hear that. If a Kyriotate possesses a human, they hear that. > >They WATCH. Or maybe, LISTEN. O:> > >And if they don't know what caused it, or if it's infernal, they can't >let that pass -- they must report it to someone. The scouts must report. >To someone. Oy. Considering the fact that they have a standing death sentence on their heads, you'd think that nearly all of them have Fallen like lead logs by now. (Grigori hears disturbance, goes up to a bunch of angels) Grigori: Um... hi there. I'm an angel, and I heard a disturbance, made by a demon, over yonder. I'm not strong enough to take him, so I thought you'd like to do it? Malakite: Well done chappy! So, who do you work for? Quite the ear you have for disturbance there. Grigori: Uh... I don't work for anyone really. Malakite: What? Are you Outcast then? Grigori: No, I'm not really Outcast persay, I- Seraph: He's lying. Grigori: Well, that is, I guess I'm outcast, but not Outcast, I- Malakite: Enough! What's your Choir? Who was your Superior? I'm going to report you! *Ascends* Grigori: Wait, no, WAIT! Dammit! *slaps head* Seraph: You shouldn't lie you know. It's naughty. Grigori: I hate my life... _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 18:20:25 -0700 From: Harukami Subject: IN> Introduction and Yves. Hi, everyone! Thought I'd introduce myself - I'm Harukami. A friend read some of my angelic/demonic fiction and recommended IN to me - next Origins, I picked up the core rules, the GMG, and the first three Sups books, and the rest, as they say, is history; I'm hooked. Pleased to meet you all! So the other day I was multitasking again and a weird combination of two activities made me find some potential support for the Yves-As-God theory... Really, it was just reading "Yves" as "YHWH". I know, maybe it doesn't /quite/ work - but depending on how you read it, Yves is either said "Eevs" (The /usual/ pronounciation of the name) or "Yahvehs"... Just mused it over and thought I'd share... Harukami "Every second, someone loses their virginity to MSN." "Buttrape on the information superhighway!" - -Me and Sempai ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:25:58 +0000 From: "Sirea Theyal" Subject: Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. >Hi, everyone! Thought I'd introduce myself - I'm Harukami. A friend read >some of my angelic/demonic fiction and recommended IN to me - next Origins, >I picked up the core rules, the GMG, and the first three Sups books, and >the rest, as they say, is history; I'm hooked. Pleased to meet you all! Hullo ^.^ nice to see someone else join the list. Makes me all warm inside knwoing I'm not alllll alone in the gaming world ;-; > >So the other day I was multitasking again and a weird combination of two >activities made me find some potential support for the Yves-As-God >theory... Really, it was just reading "Yves" as "YHWH". I know, maybe it >doesn't /quite/ work - but depending on how you read it, Yves is either >said "Eevs" (The /usual/ pronounciation of the name) or "Yahvehs"... > >Just mused it over and thought I'd share... Huh. I wonder if anyone else thought of that before. You know, I don't know the official way to say it, or how you all do, but I always pronounce Yves as Yee-vs. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:28:01 -0700 From: "Andrew S. Ma" Subject: Re: IN> Why do we have wings? Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > Oh, sure. But they shiver a lot and don't get to fluff their feathers. > No one said that demons can't be hot-blooded... > > --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor > http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ And I would think that would go double for demons of Infernal Fire... O.O (If anything, I'd day they were featherless, to radiate excessive heat.) - --- Reliver/Imp/Gremlin who's been busy staring at all the shiny superiors trying to pick one, and a choir/band - -- Fighter1: "What? What's wrong with sending the succubus in there? She's got a charisma higher than humanly possible! She'll get them to talk!" Fighter2: "She's a DEMON... and that's a CHURCH..." Fighter1: "So..?" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 18:30:35 -0700 From: Harukami Subject: IN> (Oops.) (My apologies for anybody my sig offended - I forgot I had that on there. ^^;; Oops.....) Haru, who is sorry. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:33:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Triad 314 - Techno Remix (PT 1) - --- Michael Cleveland wrote: > "Hey, so Dominic varies his schedule from > time to time. Who knew? OWWW!!!!" ROACLMWO! =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"There are two things that stand in the way of happy marriages

-- men and women." -- Rev. David Moore

__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 18:35:49 -0400 From: "Roger Williby" Subject: Re: IN> Re:Grigori They wouldn't necessarily have to report it to other angels, they could, for instance, report it to the neighborhood watch. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 18:38:15 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> Re:Grigori >> >>*snicker* >> >>They HEAR things. They hear regular disturbance much more keenly, and they >>can hear things other angels can't. If a demon makes a child cry, they >>can hear that. If a Kyriotate possesses a human, they hear that. >> >>They WATCH. Or maybe, LISTEN. O:> >> >>And if they don't know what caused it, or if it's infernal, they can't >>let that pass -- they must report it to someone. The scouts must report. >>To someone. > >Oy. Considering the fact that they have a standing death sentence on their >heads, you'd think that nearly all of them have Fallen like lead logs by >now. Well, they can try to deal with it themselves. (Lots and lots of Limbo, that way, but at least it's not permanent.) These days, they can call mortal authorities. "Yeah, something weird happening over that way. I heard screams. (Well, strictly speaking, I heard the Disturbance of a demon banging up on a human, oh, and a couple of Mind Hits because apparently he's torturing the poor thing.) What? No, I didn't say anything...." I also dare say that if a Seraph stays in one location for a long while, they might start getting short phone calls: "Quick, Resonate me. Disturbance, round about 4th and Vine. Shedite went Celestial, scared hell out of a human nearby." *click* "Hmm, True. Better go check it out." William ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:43:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. - --- Sirea Theyal wrote: > Huh. I wonder if anyone else thought of that before. Yes. > You know, I don't know the official way to say it, or how > you all do, but I always pronounce Yves as Yee-vs. I don't speak French, but from what little I know of the phonetics it would be pronounced, "Eve" (I base this entirely on the fact that the "s" in "Georges" is silent). If there is anyone on the list who parleys Francais, feel free to corroborate or correct me. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"There are two things that stand in the way of happy marriages

-- men and women." -- Rev. David Moore

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Considering the fact that they have a standing death sentence on >their > >heads, you'd think that nearly all of them have Fallen like lead logs by > >now. > >Well, they don't have to report it to _angels_, and in recent times, >payphones have been VERY useful. They don't have to admit what they >are. > >No telling how many of them seek solace in Limbo, though, where >at least it's _quiet._ Heh, true, the phone must be a great thing for these guys since it was created. Still, they must stay out in the wilderness, lest their day be filled with constant attempts to root out disturbance. That skit was mostly for comedic purposes ^_^ _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 00:44:37 +0100 From: "Nick Ashton" Subject: RE: IN> Introduction and Yves. > I don't speak French, but from what little I know of the > phonetics it would be pronounced, "Eve" (I base this > entirely on the fact that the "s" in "Georges" is silent). > If there is anyone on the list who parleys Francais, feel > free to corroborate or correct me. That is indeed the French pronunciation, and Yves is a French saint too (though I'm not sure where the 'naming God/ first being' bit comes from). I did toy with 'ee-VESH' for a while, don't know why. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 19:44:44 -0700 From: Harukami Subject: Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. >> You know, I don't know the official way to say it, or how >> you all do, but I always pronounce Yves as Yee-vs. > > I don't speak French, but from what little I know of the >phonetics it would be pronounced, "Eve" (I base this >entirely on the fact that the "s" in "Georges" is silent). >If there is anyone on the list who parleys Francais, feel >free to corroborate or correct me. Yeah, I speak french, and I've met someone with that name - I've always heard it pronounced Eves. Harukami "Every second, someone loses their virginity to MSN." "Buttrape on the information superhighway!" - -Me and Sempai ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 19:51:50 -0700 From: Harukami Subject: RE: IN> Introduction and Yves. At 12:44 AM 29/08/2002 +0100, you wrote: >> I don't speak French, but from what little I know of the >> phonetics it would be pronounced, "Eve" (I base this >> entirely on the fact that the "s" in "Georges" is silent). >> If there is anyone on the list who parleys Francais, feel >> free to corroborate or correct me. > >That is indeed the French pronunciation, and Yves is a French saint too >(though I'm not sure where the 'naming God/ first being' bit comes >from). Ah - correction to my previous comment, though I know a guy who calls himself Yves WITH the S, that's probably a Quebec-ism, not the ACTUAL French pronounciation, which would be Ehve. As for the naming God/first being - "And God's breath moved over the waters" - Where the breath is "Ruah" - In my angelic/demonic fiction I wrote, Ruah was the name for Lucifer while Lucifer was his title. The implication in the class I took, anyway, was that 'God's breath' was definately written as a /character/... Dunno if that'd be Yves, but since it does seem to be the first non-God-but-related-to-God entity, it might be a source for the /concept/... Harukami "Every second, someone loses their virginity to MSN." "Buttrape on the information superhighway!" - -Me and Sempai ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:31:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Azrael, AA of Passage I like this Azrael -- unlike me you avoided repeating too much stuff for earlier versions. - --- Manny Nepomuceno wrote: > Dissonance Great Dissonance condition. > Seraphim: In addition to having a sense of how much time > a person has left > (see Borrowed Time, below), Azrael's Seraphim have a > sense of the manner of their appointed passing. As long as it's kept vague this is a good Attunement. It's game-breaking if it's too exact. > Cherubim (restricted): Cherubim of Azrael take no > dissonance from the death > of their attuned, whether or not they were the cause of > that person's > death, provided that it was the person's time to die. Which allows the Cherub to, say, pull the plug on artificial life support if her Attuned is being kept alive past his time. Nice. > Ofanim: In tune with the patterns of death in the > Symphony, Ofanim of > Passage become keenly aware of a mortal's death > (Celestial Forces) minutes > before it occurs, and may act to prevent it in that time. This is one of two Choir Attunements that duplicate stuff from earlier versions of Azrael, but it's still good. > Elohim (restricted): The Dynamis of Passage understand > grief. If the > target of their resonance is grieving or in mourning, > they automatically > succeed in their resonance roll. I think I gave something like this to Mercurians of Death. Not that it's bad for Powers... > Malakim (restricted): In exchange for the oath "Suffer no > undead to > continue, provided that it is my choice," Azrael's > Virtues may detect > undead on a successful resonance roll. This is the other duplication from earlier Azraels. > Bright Lilim (restricted): [snip] A Bright > Lilim of Passage > would be able to get a sense of how a mortal would > _prefer_ to die on a successful resonance roll. How I wish I'd thought of this... > Mercurians: By spending 2 Essence and gazing at a > person's dead body, a > Mercurian of Passage can relive the last five minutes > before his death. Which makes Mercurians of Passage a double headache; this plus their Resonance, owwww... > Body and Soul > An angel with this attunement may attempt to reverse the > effects of > zombification, returning an undead being back to mortal > life. Gaaaaaah! This is much too powerful for a Servitor Attunement -- it's more like a Master level Distinction. It also takes much of the poignance out of the fate of Undead; part of their pathos is the fact that their condition can't be reversed. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"There are two things that stand in the way of happy marriages

-- men and women." -- Rev. David Moore

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Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"There are two things that stand in the way of happy marriages

-- men and women." -- Rev. David Moore

__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 01:53:32 +0100 From: "Nick Ashton" Subject: RE: IN> Introduction and Yves. > As for the naming God/first being - "And God's breath moved over the > waters" - Where the breath is "Ruah" - [snip}] > > Dunno if that'd be Yves, but since it does seem to be the first > non-God-but-related-to-God entity, it might be a source for the > /concept/... Hm... I personally suspect its a concept entirely invented by the makers of IN:SV/MV... which would again point to a French pronunciation of course. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 01:13:02 +0000 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> Wings of Love >The cost for this attunement depends on who's giving it to you -- if your >Archangel is a Cherub, the strengthening of Cherubic nature is easier: >5 points. If your Archangel isn't one, then 10 points. > So a Cherub Servitor of David would have to pay ... ? Janet Anderson _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 21:22:20 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. > Huh. I wonder if anyone else thought of that before. Yes. At one point, a listmember (who is no longer subscribed, apparently) started calling the AA of Destiny YVHS. > You know, I don't know the official way to say it, or how you all do, but I > always pronounce Yves as Yee-vs. Moe likes to say it "Yives." - -- Casca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 23:08:53 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. At 9:22 PM -0400 8/28/02, Eric Bertish wrote: > > Huh. I wonder if anyone else thought of that before. > >Yes. At one point, a listmember (who is no longer subscribed, apparently) >started calling the AA of Destiny YVHS. > >> You know, I don't know the official way to say it, or how you all do, but >I >> always pronounce Yves as Yee-vs. > >Moe likes to say it "Yives." I've always pronounced it 'eve.' As one pronounces Yves St. Laurent. - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Mercurian of Revelation (candidate for the Word of Obscurity) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 23:08:42 -0400 From: "Jeffery Watkins" Subject: Re: IN> Azrael, AA of Passage Gaaaaaah! This is much too powerful for a Servitor >Attunement -- it's more like a Master level Distinction. >It also takes much of the poignance out of the fate of >Undead; part of their pathos is the fact that their >condition can't be reversed. In some ways I agree, but I always thought it was too severe to have it a one way ticket to oblivion. This gives hope at least and I think angels should be about that. At least one division to work this sort of miracle. Jeff =) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:39:46 -0500 From: "Gregg Forge" Subject: Re: IN> Why do we have wings? > >>Further, Demons fly alone and cold." > >"But what about bats?" asked the INitpicker. "Aren't they warm > > blooded?" >Oh, sure. But they shiver a lot and don't get to fluff their >feathers. Neither do Djinn Princess, but that's never stopped 'em from flaunting other things Angels don't have, like scorpion tails, and such. (^_^) >No one said that demons can't be hot-blooded... But Bats don't fly alone, said the lone educated mule...so if they're not alone, and not cold, then what's the meaning? Kamika-Z, on his CelPhone, still on the run...:D _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 20:53:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ong, Harvey" Subject: Re: IN> That Damn Mercurian Resonance >(And nachos, and pizza. No alcohol. I hate >dealing with drunk players.) Hehe. Reminds me of that one session, where my PCs were all Malakim, and all just so happened to be drunk when it started. Needless to say, strange things started happening. Kronos dancing around in a pink tutu is one of them. ===== "A good author can make the mind imagine." "A great author can make the mind believe." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 20:56:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Forman Subject: Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. > >So the other day I was multitasking again and a > weird combination of two > >activities made me find some potential support for > the Yves-As-God > >theory... Really, it was just reading "Yves" as > "YHWH". I know, maybe it > >doesn't /quite/ work - but depending on how you > read it, Yves is either > >said "Eevs" (The /usual/ pronounciation of the > name) or "Yahvehs"... > > > >Just mused it over and thought I'd share... > > > Huh. I wonder if anyone else thought of that before. > > You know, I don't know the official way to say it, > or how you all do, but I > always pronounce Yves as Yee-vs. A French college pal of mine who played Croc's original quite frequently once told me to pronounce it simply as "Eve." Not sure how accurate that is, but I took his word for it. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 00:09:11 -0700 From: Harukami Subject: Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. A French college pal of mine who played Croc's >original quite frequently once told me to pronounce it >simply as "Eve." Which is another interesting thing, but I guess what I meant wasn't so much that it IS pronounced Ya-veh, but that, say, it's a possible word pun - to someone, who, say, never has spoken English or French, it COULD be pronounced like that. Though I'm probably reaching. ^^ Harukami ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 06:17:26 +0200 From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Subject: RE: IN> Introduction and Yves. - --- Sirea Theyal wrote: > You know, I don't know the official way to say it, or how > you all do, but I always pronounce Yves as Yee-vs. ** I always thought it was just a variant spelling of Ives. DS1 ------------------------------ Date: 29 Aug 2002 07:16:24 +0200 From: Rens Houben Subject: Re: IN> Re:Grigori On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 00:19, Sirea Theyal wrote: > Oy. Considering the fact that they have a standing death sentence on their > heads, you'd think that nearly all of them have Fallen like lead logs by > now. Not so. The judgement against them was Exile, not instant death. Holdon, I have the G:IN book here. Note that the Grigori are excommunicate and Outcast -- but not demons. Few have Falen, and those few seem to vanish even as their natures become selfish. Most of the outcast Grigori try to do the duties they had neglected, hoping to prove themselves worthy of heaven again. Some lose themselves in debauchery as much as they can. Still others just try to survive and keep their heads down. Dominic's Servitors, if they stumble upon a Grigori with dissonance or behaving in a selfish manner, will kill the outcast out of hand. However, it would be unjust to destroy one without cause -- the judgement against them was *exile* (besides, between you and me, there's at least one Archangel I know of that would consider throwing away the ultimate early warning demon detectors just because the Hyena doesn't think them worthy of heaven a really dumb tactical move -- and Mike is not known for dumb tactical moves...) - -- Shad. - -- Rens Houben / Shadur t'Kharn: Linux guru, programmer, geek, dreamer. GPG public key at: http://dwagon.sandwich.net/~shadur/pgpkey -- new 08/23/2000 Resume at http://dwagon.sandwich.net/~shadur/CV/ ------------------------------ Date: 29 Aug 2002 07:31:05 +0200 From: Rens Houben Subject: Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 03:22, Eric Bertish wrote: > > Huh. I wonder if anyone else thought of that before. > Yes. At one point, a listmember (who is no longer subscribed, apparently) > started calling the AA of Destiny YVHS. > Moe likes to say it "Yives." Yives'll fix it? *starts running* > -- Casca - -- Shad - -- Rens Houben / Shadur t'Kharn: Linux guru, programmer, geek, dreamer. GPG public key at: http://dwagon.sandwich.net/~shadur/pgpkey -- new 08/23/2000 Resume at http://dwagon.sandwich.net/~shadur/CV/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:49:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Unni Solaas Subject: Re: IN> Azrael, AA of Passage On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Michael Walton wrote: > > Body and Soul [Reverse a zombification] > > Gaaaaaah! This is much too powerful for a Servitor > Attunement -- it's more like a Master level Distinction. > It also takes much of the poignance out of the fate of > Undead; part of their pathos is the fact that their > condition can't be reversed. I dunno... I would definitely not allow it for starting characters, but as a whatchacallit, "extended" attunement, it should work just fine. Slap on a comment about Azrael not handing out this attunement to anyone but his most experienced and favoured angels, and you're in business. I second Jeff's feelings about the guaranteed soul-annihilation thingy being too harsh. At least in a lightish game. :) I mean - there /are/ a couple of other AA's who have 'Gaaaaaah!' attunements. Yves have a couple of horrors; Library Card and one that I can't remember the name of... It was kinda exotic-sounding. They /are/ cool, though. Kewl, even. And so is Body and Soul. :) - -- language, n; an intangible artificial construct for obscuring one's meanings and intentions to others. -ppint. Unni Solaas ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:37:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan M Roth Subject: Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Eric Bertish wrote: > > You know, I don't know the official way to say it, or how you all do, but > I > > always pronounce Yves as Yee-vs. > > Moe likes to say it "Yives." > > -- Casca Yes, and we all know to be careful when Moe starts "Yive-talking." Hmmm...Sounds like a good Discord to me.... Ryan R. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 05:58:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. - --- Ryan M Roth wrote: > Yes, and we all know to be careful when Moe starts > "Yive-talking." [groan] I'm in serious pain because of that pun. The more so because I didn't think of it first. 0:> > Hmmm...Sounds like a good Discord to me.... Accent/2. Not sure if it's in the archives. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"There are two things that stand in the way of happy marriages

-- men and women." -- Rev. David Moore

__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 29 Aug 2002 10:02:44 -0400 From: Robb Kidd Subject: Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 21:22, Eric Bertish wrote: >> You know, I don't know the official way to say it, >> or how you all do, but I always pronounce Yves as Yee-vs. > > Moe likes to say it "Yives." And Eric likes to say is "Gabriel". Nyuck nyuck. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 19:14:32 +0100 From: "Nick Ashton" Subject: RE: IN> Why do we have wings? > >No one said that demons can't be hot-blooded... > Kamika-Z sed: > But Bats don't fly alone, said the lone educated mule...so > if they're not alone, and not cold, then what's the meaning? That most analogies are inexact, and crumble a bit if you poke them for too long? ':) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 19:14:32 +0100 From: "Nick Ashton" Subject: RE: IN> Introduction and Yves. > I always thought it was just a variant spelling of Ives. Well Ives is the Anglicisation of it, as in St Ives is the same as the French St Yves. But the pronunciation is different too. I would've thought the first being would respond to either. :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:36:23 -0700 From: "Phillip DesJardins" Subject: Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. > Moe likes to say it "Yives." > > -- Casca Yes, but Moe likes to say a lot of things. Like the ethereal Elvis, for example. Do we want to follow in his lead? Is Saminga a moron? Phillip, Mercurian of Novalis The Happy Shiny Mercurian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:50:46 -0400 From: "Roger Williby" Subject: RE: IN> Introduction and Yves. >I would've thought the first being would respond to either. >:) That's interesting, if they were only two beings, why would either think to name the other? Who did they have to distinguish one another from? _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:55:01 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. Roger Williby wrote: > That's interesting, if they were only two beings, why would either think to > name the other? Who did they have to distinguish one another from? Maybe they were thinking ahead. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:32:49 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Introduction and Yves. >Roger Williby wrote: >> That's interesting, if they were only two beings, why would either think to >> name the other? Who did they have to distinguish one another from? > >Maybe they were thinking ahead. > >Earl snippididoodah At this point, I have to send out something I typed up a while back. It was going to be part of something longer... but what the hey. In the Beginning... That's Beginning, with a capital B. Remember that, it's important. No, I can't tell you why it's important now. You'll figure it out. PATIENCE! Okay... In the Beginning, there was a Void. And there was God. God didn't particularly like the Void, so He decided to make something. Unfortunately, there truly wasn't anything else, even materials to make something out of. So God improvised and made it out of Himself. He thought long and hard and eventually decided to "create". He made that term up Himself. Shush, giggling derisively is unappreciated. So, fastforward about a billion to five billion years later and you have God, the Void (which is rapidly finding itself displaced by an expanding 'creation'), and the aforementioned creation, which is doing quite well. The funny thing about this creation is that it seemed to have created something all of its own. Something that God hadn't created. It seemed a bit wispy and was blue. Very very blue. God knew it was blue because God decided to call it blue, and there really wasn't anyone there at the time who could argue with God's sense of color. So, blue it was. Blue and windy. And sandy. Yes, God made up the windy and sandy words as well, He's God, would you have argued with Him then? So, in conclusion, there was the Void saying 'g'bye', the creation saying 'g'day', the pseudo-creation saying 'huh, fancy that happening', and God standing around naming things blue, sandy, and windy. What!? I swear, if you don't stop asking inane... I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOD WAS STANDING ON!! Anywhichway... God decided that this business of naming things was getting a bit strenuous for just Him, so he decided to enlist the aid of someone else. Well, okay, first He created the concept of there being a 'someone else,' decided he liked it a lot, and then decided to expand it to include a great many someone elses. But God decided first to get some outside opinions, as something that He created ex nihilo really would be just about the same as doing the work Himself. The Void really wasn't even large enough to have a capital V by that time, the creation was His already, so he decided to craft from something completely different- that blue, sandy, windy place. The new 'other' walked out of the blue, sandy, windy place, lit a cigarette, adjusted his glasses, patted sand off of his wool jacket and khakis, and then bowed before God. When he had finished taking his loafer off and patting the sand out, he stood back up, took a puff from his cigarette, and asked "So what do I call you?" God, by this time, was thoroughly confused. He hadn't created cigarettes. He hadn't created tobacco. He hadn't created the seeds, soil, water, or the sun yet, to say nothing of glasses, wool jackets, khaki pants or loafers. "I AM THAT I AM. WHO ARE YOU?" "Hmm... don't know. Haven't thought about it yet, being that I've only existed for about five or so minutes... I suppose Yves works. Tell you what, you be God and I'll be Yves. How's that?" Josh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 23:06:42 +0300 From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Subject: RE: IN> Introduction and Yves. - -----Original Message----- From: Josh Moger [mailto:jamoge@wm.edu] In the Beginning... "I AM THAT I AM. WHO ARE YOU?" "Hmm... don't know. Haven't thought about it yet, being that I've only existed for about five or so minutes... I suppose Yves works. Tell you what, you be God and I'll be Yves. How's that?" Josh ******* ***** That was just so perfect. Now I need to clean coffee out of my keyboard from where I laughed so hard it came out my nose. DS1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:27:34 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Wings of Love At 1:13 AM +0000 8/29/02, Janet Anderson wrote: >>The cost for this attunement depends [...] [Cherub Archangel: 5 points; otherwise 10] >So a Cherub Servitor of David would have to pay ... ? 7 points. (She replied, with a straight face.) - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2757 ********************************