in_nomine-digest Wednesday, September 4 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2762 In this digest: IN> Going celestial Re: IN> Going celestial Re: IN>Something to chew on Re: IN>Something to chew on Re: IN> Going celestial Re: IN> Songs of Elegy Re: IN> Songs of Elegy Re: IN> The Heartless and Celestial Combat Re: IN> Celform Artwork Re: IN>Something to chew on Re: IN> Going celestial Re: IN>Something to chew on Re: IN>Something to chew on Re: IN> Celform Artwork Re: IN>Something to chew on Re: IN>Something to chew on IN> Ecumenical Attunement: Apotheosis Re: IN> Ecumenical Attunement: Apotheosis Re: IN>Something to chew on Re: IN> Ecumenical Attunement: Apotheosis IN> The Rings Re: IN> The Rings IN> It's been a while since I've done one of these... Re: IN> It's been a while since I've done one of these... Re: IN> It's been a while since I've done one of these... Re: IN> It's been a while since I've done one of these... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:05:05 +0300 From: Mervi.Hamalainen@uta.fi Subject: IN> Going celestial - -- Hi! What happens when a Celestial (in this case an Elohite) takes his celestial form while being nearly invisible because of the Ethereal Song of Form? Can humans or other celestials see him going celestial? Also, is it possible to take a Bodybag with a vessel in it to Celestial Plane? For example to move it from Tether to Tether. Mervi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 06:11:50 -0700 From: " Cameron McCurry" Subject: Re: IN> Going celestial >>Also, is it possible to take a Bodybag with a vessel in it to Celestial Plane? For example to move it from Tether to Tether. I would say no since it is a Corporeal artifact. Local Tethers might be happy to ship it somewhere for you however. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 09:45:56 -0400 From: "Jeffery Watkins" Subject: Re: IN>Something to chew on >IN Anime. I really wish I had ordered that book. Oh well, I'll just wait a >week or two. Can anyone give me a general discription of how they're >portrayed in that book? I have the general descriptions of their celestial forms in a file at the yahoo club/game I am working on. Its at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jctrinityRPG. You can just join, look, then unsubscribe if you wish. Oh...I did change the calabim's form in that file however. The one thing about IN Amine is that celestials have 2 celestials forms to choose from, a 'pure' form and their 'humaniod'-ish form. The idea behind it is in anime one relates best with human like or looking people and a higher chance for romance, which is a constant theme in most of them (if not all). Hope this helps, Jeff =) _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 10:23:09 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN>Something to chew on Based on the picture and description in the main book, I picture relievers as little pixie-like beings, though it's not an image I'm fond of. I'd even prefer the winged Cupid-babies ("putti" is another name for them) that adorn Renaissance art. However... Forces I picture as sparkling balls of light, about soccer-ball sized. As for celestial forms, here are some variations I cam up with back on 28 Apr 1998: ============================================================ Here are some alternative, non-canonical celestial forms, which I present for whoever might like them. Why? It varies: For seraphim, it bothered me that our only Scriptural reference clearly describes them as having six wings, hands, and feet. For ophanim, it bothered me that they didn't look more like their description in Ezekiel, and that their fallen counterparts looked nothing like them. For kyriotates, it bothered me that their fallen counterparts looked *exactly* like them. - - --- Seraphim -- Give the canonical seraph a total of six wings, a coat of feathers, and four short legs. The result looks a lot like a winged and six-eyed Chinese dragon (who are often shown using their forefeet as hands). Since the feathery coat can have any color pattern at all, the result might also suggest Quetzalcoatl, the rainbow-serpent god of Central America. (*Now*, at least, they have all the limbs attributed to them in Scripture.) Balseraphim -- the wings become bat-like and the feathers become scales. - - --- Ophanim -- Each ophanite is a *system* of spinning, luminous concentric rings, often at different angles, each ring rimmed with eyes, the various rings constantly exchanging lightning bolts. The number of rings is equal to the number of celestial forces. The rings come in any colors, and look like the glowing region of plasma inside a neon light. The net result looks sort of like the standard hieroglyph for an atom, only jazzed up. I think the multiple rings give an ophanite in celestial form more scope for "expression." (The multiple wheels, the eyes, and the lightning are from Ezekiel.) Calabim -- Very similar to an ophanite in general, except the rings are of flames instead of pure glowing plasma. Also, the lightning is replaced by swarming fireballs, which the calabite can "spit" at targets. (Now they look more like their unfallen counterparts.) - - --- Kyriotates -- Very much as in canon. They look like luminous clouds, through which one glimpses a constantly varying selection of eyes, mouths, hands, paws, wings, beaks, tails, etc. The cloud itself is usually white, golden, or prismatic, but can be any color. The bits visible may include things reflecting the Archangel who created the individual kyriotate, e.g. flowers and leaves (Novalis), gems (David), bits of machinery and lightning (Jean), a marked *absence* of human parts (Jordi), or tongues of flame (Gabriel). Sheddim -- They look like ragged black rips in the fabric of the Symphony. In that dark, one can glimpse feral eyes or gleaming fangs. Taloned, hawk-like claws may come snatching out of it. See the demon who featured in "Season of Mists," in Neil Gaiman's "Sandman" series. I believe his name was Azazel. (Now they have a more distinct appearance from their unfallen counterparts.) - - --- Earl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:25:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> Going celestial On Tue, 3 Sep 2002 Mervi.Hamalainen@uta.fi wrote: > What happens when a Celestial (in this case an Elohite) takes his celestial > form while being nearly invisible because of the Ethereal Song of Form? Can > humans or other celestials see him going celestial? If the people around him have failed their Perception rolls to see him, then he might as well be standing behind a wall when he does anything, including going Celestial. Of course, everyone immediately gets a new roll to detect the angel in Celestial form - and other Celestials are probably going to hear the disturbance without even needing to roll. > Also, is it possible to take a Bodybag with a vessel in it to Celestial > Plane? For example to move it from Tether to Tether. A bodybag IS a relic, which is Celestial, so it can be taken to the Celestial plane. However, I don't believe vessels can, under any circumstances, be taken to another plane... I may be wrong about this part. Personally, I'd allow a player to buy that as an enhancement on his Body Bag - I'd charge an extra 5 points for that feature. - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! "If this television craze continues...we are destined to have a nation of morons." -- Boston University president Daniel Marsh, 1950 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:55:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Songs of Elegy - --- EDG wrote: > *Corporeal*: The Corporeal Song of Elegy exacts a dying > victim's vengeance > upon his killer. This Song must be performed over a > newly-killed corpse: > in fact, if the victim died more than a round prior to > the performance, the Song simply does not work. That seems a bit harsh to me; it basically means that the player has to witness the death, be on the scene and perform the Song as her very next action. Cherubim couldn't use it to exact vengeance for their Attuned except within those restrictions. > *Ethereal*: This Song allows the performer to kindle > memories of the > recently departed, either positive or negative at the > performer's > discretion, in the minds of those nearby who knew the > subject. These > memories last for but a moment, but their effects cause > either a bonus or a > penalty (for positive or negative memories, respectively) > equal to the > subject's Ethereal Forces to the next roll made by anyone > within (5 * the > CD) yards who knew the subject - including the performer, > who must have known the subject himself. The limitation on this one is much better. One question; how does one determine whether the Song grants a bonus or a penalty? And how do you define positive or negative memories? A demon (other than an Impudite) would consider memories of torturing someone to death positive, or at least pleasurable, while a Human remembering a night of wild passion with the deceased might well have mixed feelings about it -- especially if the survivor had taken a vow of celibacy. > *Celestial*: The Celestial Song of Elegy conjures an > image of the > deceased. This image has all of the memories and > knowledge of the subject, > and all of his vocal traits and mannerisms, but is > incapable of making > decisions or leaps of intuition (and, in fact, cannot > spend Essence at all, > and can only make a roll in one specific circumstance, > detailed below): it > is essentially a repository of the information that the > subject knew Ehhh... seems like a variant Song of Symphony. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"Don't repent. Stop sinnin'." -- old cowboy saying

__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:28:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher Anthony" Subject: Re: IN> Songs of Elegy Michael Walton said: > That seems a bit harsh to me; it basically means that the > player has to witness the death, be on the scene and > perform the Song as her very next action. Cherubim > couldn't use it to exact vengeance for their Attuned except > within those restrictions. That's pretty much the long and the short of it, yes. This isn't meant to be anything other than the immediate swearing of vengeance for someone you've seen killed. Removing or reducing the time limit also reduces the immediacy of the act. The Cherubim angle isn't one I'd considered when I was writing it down, though. "Cherubim can use this Song when a person to whom they are attuned is killed, within a number of rounds equal to the attunement's check digit, no matter where the Cherub is!" > The limitation on this one is much better. One question; > how does one determine whether the Song grants a bonus or a > penalty? And how do you define positive or negative > memories? A demon (other than an Impudite) would consider > memories of torturing someone to death positive, or at > least pleasurable, while a Human remembering a night of > wild passion with the deceased might well have mixed > feelings about it -- especially if the survivor had taken a > vow of celibacy. The Song grants a bonus for positive memories, and a penalty for negative memories (this is stated in the text, although I may need to make it more explicit): which type are inflicted upon the victims of the Song is at the discretion of the performer. The performer may not specify *which* memories, only whether they are to be positive or negative with respect to those affected by the Song. (Yes, this means that a demon with positive memories might remember the act of killing him, while his wife might remember the night he proposed. Both are positive memories and grant a bonus, regardless of what anyone else is reminiscing about.) > Ehhh... seems like a variant Song of Symphony. Not as I remember the Song of Symphony, but as I'm at work and my books are at home, I'll have to wait until this evening to look it up. - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:26:57 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> The Heartless and Celestial Combat At 11:36 PM -0400 9/1/02, William J. Keith wrote: >Suppose an Outcast or a Heartless Renegade, while on Earth, loses all his >Corporeal Forces in celestial combat. Where does he go? Back to his >"home" region of the celestial plane? (Makes the most sense to me...) The >Marches? Limbo? (Of course, if it's Limbo, he's *permanently* screwed, >since he needs a Corporeal Force to get out.) Soul-death? Unless he can find a Tether in time, he's going to be in the same problem as a Heartless Kyrio or Shedite -- he'll start taking soul hits as the corporeal realm rejects him, till he finds a Tether somewhere else, or dies. One might be kind and let it develop the Bound Discord anyway, despite the lack of Corporeal Forces. But that would be a kind of stretchy loophole... - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:38:35 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Celform Artwork At 11:43 AM -0400 9/2/02, William J. Keith wrote: >Hmm... maybe some of us who know music should do up a musical file for >various entities in the Symphony;[...] *poke* But not on the list -- that's a Music Thread, and forbidden. (Now, if someone comes up with something, of _course_ they can put it on the web and announce it. There might even be some discussion of Entirely Original stuff. But the moment that it veers away into "Do it like X, or Y which is just THE perfect Q music..." -- it's into the Forbidden Music Thread.) - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:41:54 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN>Something to chew on At 6:46 PM -0400 9/2/02, BC Petery wrote: >> At 8:40 PM -0400 8/31/02, BC Petery wrote: >> *PSST! Turn off 8-bit! The <<>> on the twitch-twitch weren't >> 7-bit ascii, and came through weird.* > >Actually that's a cross platform thing. Mac and Windows ASCII don't exactly >match, so getting fancy with the Option and Command keys can manifest chaos >features. It's 7-bit versus 8-bit. Use 7-bit. (I checked -- your headers said you were using 8-bit.) It's in the listrules. (Sure, you can get away with using only the 7-bit stuff and still use 8-bit -- but it's less likely to use curlyquotes if you just turn off 8-bit entirely.) (And _I_ got the <<>> okay, though small. Someone else quoted them and they came through as a i with a hollow dot and something else.) >And is it possible to _fall_ right out of Heaven or will the Divine Light >(tm) blast you to smithereens? The latter I should think, not having a >Vessel as a shield. > >That'll teach me to follow my own advice about proof reading at 11 PM. *giggle* Hm. Demons don't get killed immediately in Heaven (see the online errata for Heaven & Hell), so a new-Fallen -- just as the First Fallen were -- would have a little while to skedaddle before turning into smoking hooves. - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:54:19 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Going celestial At 4:05 PM +0300 9/3/02, Mervi.Hamalainen@uta.fi wrote: >What happens when a Celestial (in this case an Elohite) takes his celestial >form while being nearly invisible because of the Ethereal Song of Form? Can >humans or other celestials see him going celestial? I'd say this is up to the GM, but would be inclined to say that it only works on a corporeal form or an ethereal icon, myself. (Yes, a Malakite of Dreams with Ethereal Form would be really spooky.) The Song description talks about "shadow matter," if I recall correctly, and a celestial form is already something outside of "shadow matter." >Also, is it possible to take a Bodybag with a vessel in it to Celestial >Plane? For example to move it from Tether to Tether. If it doesn't exceed the weight limitations for going celestial (10lbs per some realm's Forces? Toddler's on my arms, can't get the book out), then sure, why not? (As a relic, too, the body-bag itself can be taken celestial normally. Giving it an enhancement to let the vessel within _not_ count against the carrying celestial's weight limits would be reasonable, as Pee Kitty suggested.) - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:13:49 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN>Something to chew on > each other. Anime-wise, Michael has ALWAYS been the black-haired > smackdown-giver from Record of Lodoss War; Baal, correspondingly, > has always had the voice of the red-headed former-king of that > land... Ashram and Beld, respectively. So I guess that means Laurence is Parn and Khalid is Etoh, but Deedlit doesn't fit *any* of the female AA's... - -- Casca, Lodoss Fanboy "Watashi wa... Lodoss toyunda!" Dang, that's fun to say. :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 21:24:52 +0000 From: "Sirea Theyal" Subject: Re: IN>Something to chew on Huh. That's a pretty cool way of seeing it all. Actually, next, in addition to flavor and such, how do you see your Superiors? Michael: In human form, he looks like his pic in Superiors 1- a bloody, muscular human with these really freaky eyes that say "I'll kill you without a second thought". His celestial form is that of a massive snake-like figure of pure energy, rippling with a million songs of conflict and God. He has six glaring red eyes, and hundreds a small energy wings, with six truly massive wings of blue light. Novalis: Her human form is that of a young and pretty woman with long cherry-red hair, and she wears a simple dress or jeans with a blue silk shirt. Her celestial form is that of a massive ladybug with two wings of leaves, and peaceful songs floating about her. Yves: How can I argue? Just like he looks in the Canon pics ^_^ argyle socks! David: Again, much like in Canon for his celestial form. His human form is the same. Yeah, sans clothing... Blandine: Her human form is a young lady with long blue hair (ever seen Luna from the Lunar series?) and white robes that shift with a million dreams at once. Her celestial form is that of a large white and silver wolf with four wings made of glowing crystal light. Dominic: His male and female human forms look as they do in Canon, as does his celestial form. Hail the cloak! Janus: He doesn't take a human form, he instead manifests as a swooshing wind cloud that can speak. His celestial form is a truly gigantic and ever moving tornado of green and blue wind. Jean: Human form, male or female (hard to tell the difference) has slicked back white hair, and electric blue eyes. His celestial form is the same, but he has an aura of blue lightning. Laurence: He's so cute! ^_^ looks like he does in Superiors 1, with the long hair, armor and whatnot. Celestial form is the same, but his feathers look like daggers... and in fact, are! Gabriel: Her human form is that of a beautiful islamic woman with black-red hair, wearing blue robes with a sword by her side and really kooky eyes. Her celestial form is over 50 swirling rings of chaotic fire, with small orbs of light circling her. Marc: His human form is whatever works for the time. His celestial form is like in Canon, being made of gold and light. Jordi: Oy. Animal form is any animal you can think of, and his celestial form is just -whacked-. Eli: His human form is whatever works, and his celestial form is a male or female angel with swirling bands of beautiful light around his form, and two wings of all sorts of colors. Christopher: His human form is a tall man with long blond hair pulled back and a big smile, or a pretty woman of the same kind of appearance. His celestial form is a really big looking black puppy with a bunch of kids riding on his back when he's not in battle. Khalid: His human form is an islamic man or woman, while his celestial form is like a pic I saw of him once, being multiple rings of golden light swirling together. The only difference is that there is a vaguely humanoid form at their center. Litheroy: His human form is simply a man or woman with little or no hair wearing plain white robes, as he goes about yelling revelations to people. His celestial form is that of a large blue and white snake with six mirrored wings that reflect the truth of the soul of whoever gazes into them. Zadkiel: Her human form is that of a black woman with wavy blond hair pulled back wearing a blue jumpsuit and combat gear, holding a giant shield. Her celestial form is that of a massive bronze-metallic turtle with two metal wings. Azrael: His human form is either a tall and grim looking bald man wearing a black robe, or a small and happy looking gothic girl. His celestial form looks like the stereotypical reaper, scythe and all. Song: The AA of Song in human form looks like a young woman holding drums, wearing tribal clothing, always humming or singing to herself. In celestial form she looks like a massive female giant that seems to be composed of "song" and light. Oannes: It had no human form, it was just currents of water, or a sculpture made of water that talked. It's celestial form was a utterly huge sphere of water in which beautiful lines of light floated around in. Raphael: Her human form was always a teacher of some sort, be it an old wise-woman or young schoolmarm. Her celestial form was an utterly beautiful humanoid figure, and she always carried a book with her. Uriel: His rare human form was a tall and angry man with long white hair and usually a massive sword at hand. His celestial form was always a 15 foot tall Malakite with perfect ebony black skin, a truly huge sword, perfect long white hair, and two wings that shone with light. Metatron: For the time she was alive, she manifested as a tall woman with long black hair, wearing simple red robes with black armor over them. Her eyes shone like two golden stars. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:29:15 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> Celform Artwork >But not on the list -- that's a Music Thread, and forbidden. > >(Now, if someone comes up with something, of _course_ they can put >it on the web and announce it. There might even be some discussion of >Entirely Original stuff. Yeah -- I was referring to original stuff, complimenting Manny. > But the moment that it veers away into "Do >it like X, or Y which is just THE perfect Q music..." -- it's into >the Forbidden Music Thread.) More like "So here's this xylophone MIDI I wrote, trying to evoke the sensation of what it's like to be an Elohite." But I'll keep it Web-bound if I do anything with it, since it treads on delicate borders. >--Beth William ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 21:32:20 +0000 From: "Sirea Theyal" Subject: Re: IN>Something to chew on Well, wouldn't Deedlit fit a young Blandine perfectly? She is the lasy of fantasy and dreams... _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 15:42:25 -0600 From: "Steven E. Ehrbar" Subject: Re: IN>Something to chew on BC Petery wrote: >>At 8:40 PM -0400 8/31/02, BC Petery wrote: >>*PSST! Turn off 8-bit! The <<>> on the twitch-twitch weren't >>7-bit ascii, and came through weird.* >> >> > >Actually that's a cross platform thing. Mac and Windows ASCII don't exactly >match, so getting fancy with the Option and Command keys can manifest chaos >features. > Actually, it is a 7/8 bit thing. Windows and Mac have identical implementations of ASCII. The American Standard Code for Information Interchange is a 7-bit standard, and includes no curly-quotes, accented letters, or the like. If a character appears differently on Windows and Mac, it is not an ASCII (7-bit) character, but an 8-bit "extended" and non-ASCII character. - -- Steven E. Ehrbar ehrbar@softhome.net stevenehrbar@elp.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:19:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher Anthony" Subject: IN> Ecumenical Attunement: Apotheosis This is a JOKE, people. - -EDG Ecumenical Attunement: Apotheosis Yep. Anyone can be granted this attunement, and - at least, in the hypothetical sense - anyone can use it. In fact, some wags in Creation's employ have decided that everybody has it, and are racking their brains for a way to come up with the 6,000 Essence it requires - Yes, you read that right. Six thousand Essence. That's why the issue of practicality comes up: while anyone *can* use Apotheosis, only the most powerful of Word-Bound angels, working together, can hope to actually activate it. Of course, although the reward is great, it also gives a great many angels pause for thought - after all, if everyone were just handed that much power, we might have another Great Fall on our hands... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:31:43 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Ecumenical Attunement: Apotheosis >This is a JOKE, people. > >-EDG A joke it may be, but have you seen the size of the reliquaries that Vapula has been pulling into Tarturus since that last Creationer Fell? Josh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 18:33:37 -0500 From: "Gregg Forge" Subject: Re: IN>Something to chew on > >Ashram and Beld, respectively. > >So I guess that means Laurence is Parn and Khalid is Etoh, but >Deedlit >doesn't fit *any* of the female AA's... She's a very former Flower-child who now serves Protection? Dunno, that sounds highly dissonant... Though she does get to kill, at that point... Kamika-Z, with an Puni Puni Poemi quote stuck in head... _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:51:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher Anthony" Subject: Re: IN> Ecumenical Attunement: Apotheosis Josh Moger said: > A joke it may be, but have you seen the size of the reliquaries that > Vapula has been pulling into Tarturus since that last Creationer > Fell? Eh, reliquaries are limited to 12 Essence, and anyway, all *Vapula* has to do is ask Lucifer... - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 22:37:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher Anthony" Subject: IN> The Rings It's not what you think. - -EDG Blue Ring (Relic/6, but see below): 12 CP The Blue Ring is actually an enchanted bracelet, made of silver and sapphire and unusually thick. Worn around the wrist, it protects the wearer: to wit, it bears a weakened, personalized form of the Corporeal Song of Shields, which instead of blocking all attacks merely reduces the damage dealt to the wearer by 50%. (Mechanically, it's simple enough: all damage against the wearer of the Blue Ring is halved.) There's only one of them - primarily because the only celestial in all of existence who's figured out this particular variant on the Song of Shields has been on walkabout for a bit now - so although it has a fairly low cost in terms of character points, it should be a bit of an adventure to get the thing; it can't simply be requisitioned, mostly because neither Heaven nor Hell knows where the thing is. As an interesting special effect, the Song of Shields invoked by the Blue Ring does still have a visual effect: instead of a swirling tornado, its energies cause the wearer's body to glow faintly blue. (It's not enough to see by, but it does grant a +1 to Accuracy for any attack made against the wearer in complete darkness.) Blue Ring Unique Relic Relic/6 (Weakened Corporeal Shields: 1/level) Always On: +6 Red Ring (Relic/6, but see below): 18 CP The Red Ring is almost identical in design to the Blue Ring, although its materials are gold and ruby. It has an almost identical effect, as well: it reduces all damage done to the wearer by 75%. Again, it is a unique relic, and until its creator comes back from whatever bar he's in today, it'll stay that way. Like the Blue Ring, this armor's Corporeal Shields causes its wearer to glow faintly, but with a red hue. Given its higher power level, it is therefore not inappropriate to assign a +1 bonus to Accuracy in low light, and +2 in complete darkness, for attacks against the wearer of the Red Ring. Red Ring Unique Relic Relic/6 (Weakened Corporeal Shields: 2/level) Always On: +6 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 19:59:01 -0700 From: "Andrew S. Ma" Subject: Re: IN> The Rings Christopher Anthony wrote: > It's not what you think. > > -EDG > Blue Ring (Relic/6, but see below): 12 CP (...reduces the damage dealt to the wearer by 50%...) > Red Ring (Relic/6, but see below): 18 CP (...reduces the damage dealt to the wearer by 75%...) Someone's been replaying the original Legand of Zelda I see. LOL. Anyone doing a writeup of the three Triforces? hehe... - -- Fighter1: "What? What's wrong with sending the succubus in there? She's got a charisma higher than humanly possible! She'll get them to talk!" Fighter2: "She's a DEMON... and that's a CHURCH..." Fighter1: "So..?" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:23:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> It's been a while since I've done one of these... ...actually, now that I think of it, I only _did_ one of these in the first place. Anyway, here you go. :) http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine/stories/SIJDogma.htm Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/13/02(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:08:13 -0500 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> It's been a while since I've done one of these... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurice Lane" To: "IN List" Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 10:23 PM Subject: IN> It's been a while since I've done one of these... > ...actually, now that I think of it, I only _did_ one > of these in the first place. Anyway, here you go. :) > > http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine/stories/SIJDogma.htm *twitch* *twitch* *twitch* GUARDS! SEIZE HIM! :-) - -- Chuckg PS -- as usual, Moe, you did a superb job. The brain explosions among the stage crew will be as nothing compared to those among the listmember audience. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 04:32:09 -0400 From: "S.D." Subject: Re: IN> It's been a while since I've done one of these... >...actually, now that I think of it, I only _did_ one >of these in the first place. Anyway, here you go. :) > >http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine/stories/SIJDogma.htm [long pause] ...BWAHAHAHAHA! I love it. ^^ Especially Laurence's reactions. And the dialogue after Laurence appears. And...well, everything. ^^ *Great* job. ^_^ ~S.D. Ryukage ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Your hard-on for smiting has prevented us from negotiating what should be the relatively simple matter of catching or staying on a bus." Bartleby to Loki, 'Dogma' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 13:15:11 +0000 From: "Sirea Theyal" Subject: Re: IN> It's been a while since I've done one of these... *finishes laughing* Whew! Now that was a nice piece of humor there! _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2762 ********************************