in_nomine-digest Saturday, September 21 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2781 In this digest: RE: IN> Expanded Resonances: Malakh(ite) Re: IN> Expanded Resonances: Malakh(ite) Re: IN> Ofanim angels? IN> [ADMIN] Beth On Vacation Re: IN> Expanded Resonances: Malakh(ite) IN> The DUCKS! I just saw THE DUCKS! Re: IN> The DUCKS! I just saw THE DUCKS! IN> A Day in the Marches IN> Plot Seed: Raising the Edmund Fitzgerald Re: IN> The DUCKS! I just saw THE DUCKS! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:52:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: RE: IN> Expanded Resonances: Malakh(ite) - --- Julian Mensch wrote: > Truthfully, I'm of the opinion that IN is an out- > standing game, but mechanics have never been a real > point of emphasis. That's the downfall of all Second Generation RPG's; story/concept is elevated over mechanics/game balance. This only works if none of the players are munchkins. In 2ndG games, one power gamer can ruin the entire campaign. > The canon attunements are not > anything resembling balanced Don't get me started... 0:> > Another option would be to leave the resonance roll at > base attribute value as in canon, and set the maximum > check digit on a resonance roll to be the Facet skill > rating. I think that this is the best fix of the ones you proposed. It's simple, and simplicity is one of the strengths of 2ndG systems. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"Don't repent. Stop sinnin'." -- old cowboy saying

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 15:18:13 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Expanded Resonances: Malakh(ite) > >> The canon attunements are not >> anything resembling balanced > > Don't get me started... 0:> > What? What are you talking about? "Okay, as an angel, I can take over a person's body and so long as I keep it healthy and out of jail, I can do whatever I want and depending on how powerful I am, take over multiple animals or people at the same time?" "Yep." "And as a demon I can take over only one person, no animals, and remain a little voice in their heads that gets them to do bad things? And if I don't do it even once a day, I have to leave or get my soul twisted?" "Yep." "Hmm... decisions decisions..." Josh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 15:35:02 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Ofanim angels? At 6:07 PM -0400 9/19/02, William J. Keith wrote: >>260? Is this including the template, or outside of it? (Because it's only >>a +6 to celestial-native stats of 14, and that's only... 80 points, each, >>IIRC?) > >>--Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor >>http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ > >*sigh* I just read through the applicable section of Compendium I, which >I've read before, and owned about as long as I've owned In Nomine. Joy. >(I was paying the difference between 14 and 20, 45 points to 175.) O:> I've been designing non-human characters for rather a while now, I guess. O:> >Fortunately for >all our sanities, Beth, as far as I can tell this won't affect the LCant >conversion or the EPG conversion. Whew. BTW, I'll be sending you more EPG stuff when I get back... Assuming I remember which chapter I was at. Again. O:p - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 15:36:20 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> [ADMIN] Beth On Vacation Down to Austin to see my 102-year-old grandfather. Don't get evil while I'm gone -- mail2web.com works anywhere. But I won't _necessarily_ be around to handle bounced mail or u n / s u b s c r i p t i o n s. So and thus. I'll be gone till about the 25th or so, starting Saturday. - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 13:41:15 -0700 From: Kish Subject: Re: IN> Expanded Resonances: Malakh(ite) Josh Moger wrote: > > > > >> The canon attunements are not > >> anything resembling balanced > > > > Don't get me started... 0:> > > > > What? What are you talking about? > "Okay, as an angel, I can take over a person's body and so long as I keep it > healthy and out of jail, I can do whatever I want and depending on how > powerful I am, take over multiple animals or people at the same time?" "No. You have to make sure you leave them no worse off than when you took them over. That's a lot more than just keeping them healthy and out of jail, and since they lose time when you take them over, you start out in the hole." > "Yep." > "And as a demon I can take over only one person, no animals, and remain a > little voice in their heads that gets them to do bad things? And if I don't > do it even once a day, I have to leave or get my soul twisted?" "Yes. But as long as you have them commit one evil act per day, you can do whatever you want the rest of the time." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:30:56 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: IN> The DUCKS! I just saw THE DUCKS! Cartoon Network, "Dexter's Laboratory": Ducks used as weaponry! Mr. Lane has shown himself once again to be the most clairvoyant trend-spotter of our popular culture, anticipating by whole DAYS the use of ducks as hand-propelled missile weaponry. In this particular episode, no explosivity occurred, wherefrom we can deduce either that no Intervention occurred, or neither principal involved in the exchange of avians was celestial. However, as this new weapon of hand-to-hand combat spreads throughout the world, we can only wonder as to the casualties that will pile up in the War. William ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 19:49:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> The DUCKS! I just saw THE DUCKS! - --- "William J. Keith" wrote: > as this new weapon of hand-to-hand combat spreads > throughout the world, we can only wonder as to the > casualties that will pile up in the War. In Duck-ster's Laaaaaaab... [ahem] Sorry. [ducks... er, I mean, oh, never mind] =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"Don't repent. Stop sinnin'." -- old cowboy saying

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 00:44:36 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: IN> A Day in the Marches Had a random impulse, so I pored over my world map for a while and came up with this. It's a quick guide for those that want to time events in the Marches on a global scale: a 24-hour summary of what is going on in the world sleep-wise, at 4-hour intervals. It assumes that the vast majority of people in a given region sleep at night, roughly from 10 to 6. The times listed are Universal (i.e., Greenwich) time. The particulars of national sleep habits, and the local shape of time zones, have a small chance of affecting this in some significant way, but that's a bit more research than I care to do for a random thought. ;^) Noon: The East Coast of North America is waking up. This is the time when the Marches is most sparsely populated (though still roughly 200 million); much of the night is over the Pacific. Dreamers or Screamers doing their work in the U.S. are either wrapping up a night's work, or getting started on the day's. If they are in the Marches, this lull in activity probably means manpower is available (though Essence has probably been mostly used). 4pm: The Western Hemisphere is awake. China, SE Asia, and Australia are asleep. The Asian pantheons seeking to reach dreamers are likely to be most active now. Population is ramping up. 8pm: Night now includes China, SE Asia, Australia, India, and Russia and associated states. Africa is starting to sleep as well. Approximately half the world's population is asleep now, and along with the Asian pantheons the Hindu pantheon will be active if it seeks dreamers. Any African spirits will be up and about as well. This seems sure to be the busiest time period for celestials working solely in the Marches. Midnight: China has awoken, but Africa and Europe are now asleep. The population of the Marches is still near peak levels. While Asian pantheons are turning their attention either to internal affairs or to activities on Earth, African and European pantheons (particularly neo-pagan versions and pop culture sprites) will probably target their Marches efforts for this time. American-based Servitors are experiencing day and are likely working corporeally. 4am: Another lull as India wakes up and the terminator crosses the Atlantic. The dreamscape population is declining. South America is starting to sleep, and North America is preparing to do so as well. The hours between now and 6am could be a time of particular note to "modern" flavored Ethereals and angels working in the West. The American Midwest and Eastern America, including the powerful governmental and economic centers in New York and Washington, is entering sleep. Europe, especially Western Europe, is also still abed; this brief moment of shared sleep could spell activity on any number of fronts intended to shape global consciousness in areas where the First World nations are powerful. 8am: Africa and Europe are now awake. The Americas, however, are fast asleep, and now is probably a lesser peak in the dreamscape count. Fantasists and Nightmare demons working in the U.S. are probably either out in the corporeal world doing night-time things, or watching over their assigned dreamers in the Marches. William ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 06:52:55 -0400 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> Plot Seed: Raising the Edmund Fitzgerald > Of course, this isn't just a memorial - it's proof of the ability of > Science! to conquer mother nature's most formidible obstacles - and > consequently, also a sign of man's uncontainable hubris. When distinguishing between pride and hubris I like to think of a phrase I first heard in Texas: "It ain't bragging if it's true." That's how AA Michael gets away with it. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 15:08:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> The DUCKS! I just saw THE DUCKS! - --- "William J. Keith" wrote: > Cartoon Network, "Dexter's Laboratory": Ducks used > as weaponry! > > Mr. Lane has shown himself once again to be the most > clairvoyant > trend-spotter of our popular culture, anticipating > by whole DAYS the use of > ducks as hand-propelled missile weaponry. 2 things: 1, that's freaky. 2, Why can't I predict something a little more useful, like stock prices? :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 09/18/02 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2781 ********************************