in_nomine-digest Friday, October 11 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2816 In this digest: Re: IN> New Poster Re: IN> Only single choir/brand Sup? Re: IN> Faith/DP of Fanatiscm Re: IN> Only single choir/brand Sup? Re: IN> Firemen Questions Re: IN> Only single choir/brand Sup? Re: IN> Only single choir/brand Sup? Re: IN> Only single choir/brand Sup? Re: IN> Faith/DP of Fanaticism Re: IN> Only single choir/brand Sup? IN> Of Munchkins and Roleplayers IN> On Khalid's choir Re: IN> The Demon of Sloths Re: IN> Candi, Demon of Blonde Re: IN> Only single choir/brand Sup? Re: IN> On Khalid's choir Re: IN> Renegade Archangels- Plot Seed Re: IN> Ferret-Cherubim Re: IN> Renegade Archangels- Plot Seed IN> Fallen Bands Revised Re: IN> The Demon of Sloths Re: IN> Fallen Bands Revised Re: IN> Candi, Demon of Blonde Re: IN> Of Munchkins and Roleplayers Re: IN> Only single choir/brand Sup? Re: IN> Renegade Archangels- Plot Seed Re: IN> Renegade Archangels- Plot Seed Re: IN> Fallen Bands Revised IN> Computation in Heaven... (Re: Faith) Re: IN> Only single choir/brand Sup? IN> [ADMIN] Re: Firemen Questions Re: IN> Only single choir/brand Sup? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:28:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> New Poster - --- Randy Finder wrote: > Hello. I just joined the list. I've read quite a bit on > the web sites but have never played IN. Ah... another visitor. Stay awhile. Stay for... [WHACK!] OW! Umm, I mean, hi, Randy! =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"If you succeed, you will make some false friends and some true enemies. Succeed anyway." - -- Bishop David M. Copeland

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:31:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Only single choir/brand Sup? - --- Randy Finder wrote: > I can't come up > with a canon superior bandmate for Jordi. Are there any > other Canon Kyriotate Superiors? Nope. > Who else is lonely (and yes I'm using lonely and a > Kyriotate in the same sentence) other than Jordi? Eli is the only Mercurian AA in canon. Until Khalid Jean was the only Elohite, but several people (including myself) don't much care for that choice of Choir for the AA of Faith. There are no Lilim Superiors at all. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"If you succeed, you will make some false friends and some true enemies. Succeed anyway." - -- Bishop David M. Copeland

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Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"If you succeed, you will make some false friends and some true enemies. Succeed anyway." - -- Bishop David M. Copeland

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:39:22 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Only single choir/brand Sup? > > Eli is the only Mercurian AA in canon. Until Khalid Jean >was the only Elohite, but several people (including myself) >don't much care for that choice of Choir for the AA of >Faith. There are no Lilim Superiors at all. > Uhmm...and Marc is what? Josh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:41:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Firemen Questions - --- glasgowc1@attbi.com wrote: > Which is why, whenever possible, the Marines like to > station guard mounts at critical points in pairs. I'm actually going to come to Mr. Bergeron's defense here. Like most everyone else, I interpreted the original question as, "Why TWO Cherubim?" when his actual question was, "Why two CHERUBIM?" The destroyer + carrier analogy finally made that click for me (and, as I said before, this thread wouldn't have sunk so low if the question had been couched in those terms from jump). Short answer to the real question (now that I know it): think of the destroyer/carrier pairing. Two ships with very different capabilities, but those capabilities do overlap -- specifically in mission-critical areas. Both ships have to have the basic abilities necessary to do the job, or the pairing doesn't work. Same with the two Cherubim. Cherubic Resonance is necessary to the mission (for tracking Gabriel) as is Ofanite Resonance (for following or running for help). Now, as to Mr. Bergeron's insistance that two angels with identical skill and Attunement sets is needlessly redundant, I agree insofar as the duplication effects areas that aren't mission-critical. Concerning stuff that is mission-critical, it's vital that both angels be able to do the job simply because of the possibility that either one might have to. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"If you succeed, you will make some false friends and some true enemies. Succeed anyway." - -- Bishop David M. Copeland

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Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"If you succeed, you will make some false friends and some true enemies. Succeed anyway." - -- Bishop David M. Copeland

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:45:39 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Only single choir/brand Sup? On Friday, October 11, 2002, at 01:39 PM, Josh Moger wrote: >> >> Eli is the only Mercurian AA in canon. Until Khalid Jean >> was the only Elohite, but several people (including myself) >> don't much care for that choice of Choir for the AA of >> Faith. There are no Lilim Superiors at all. >> > > Uhmm...and Marc is what? > Feeling *terribly* slighted, no doubt. 0;-) - -- Eric A. Burns Freelance Writer and Textual Whore http://www.annotations.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:49:43 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Only single choir/brand Sup? >> Uhmm...and Marc is what? > > D'oh! Quite right, Josh, forgot about him. Good catch. >That'll teach me to post while I should be having a >post-prandial nap. > Just figured I might be able to get IST Nitpicking if ^_^' doesn't pan out. Josh ------------------------------ Date: 11 Oct 2002 13:55:15 -0400 From: Robb Kidd Subject: Re: IN> Faith/DP of Fanaticism On Fri, 2002-10-11 at 10:47, Jeffery Watkins wrote: > [...] I did have Khalid fall and become the DP of Fanaticisim. > *hides head in shame* [...] for Khalid, his having a gripe with > God's choice of commanders didn't go well with the idea of the > AA faith. Since we're talking about -Words-, let's get semantic ... A fallen Khalid works especially well when you look at the Greek word translated as "faith" in the New Testament: "pivstiß" (pistis).[1] It's used in two different ways: (1) a conviction of the truth of some thing, a belief; and (2) fidelity, faithfulness ("pistovß", pistos). pivstiß/pistovß has a root in the verb "peiqo" (peitho)[2] which is to persuade, to be persuaded or to trust. In my mind, Khalid's gripe is certainly in violation of his Word in this respect. (I seem to recall the word "cardia" -- "to put one's heart upon" -- being translated as "faith" as well. Can't find my sources for this, though. The hearty connotations for fidelity, faithfulness and loyatly would work well for an alternate Cherub AA of Faith.) > Though the character is good so I wonder if anyone would have > an idea, what better Word should Khalid have been? I like Fanaticism. For a Word-bound angel of any other choir, I'd say go for an opposite (like the suggested "Nihilism"). Fallen Elohim, however, still think they're angels. Unhealthy extremes of their former Word make sense. Considering the circumstances of your fallen Khalid, a Habbalite Demon "Archangel" Prince of Fanaticism works very well. He's clung to his gripe and dissatisfaction and it has warped him into - -KNOWING- that he was Right. A Habbalite Khalid might think that he - -was- commissioned to be the Commander of the Host and that he's just holding a very, very forward command post. Or he's working on building an army to show Heaven the error of its ways. Or both -- Habbalah are nutzo. [1] http://bible.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Greek/grk.cgi?number=4102&version=kjv [2] http://bible.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Greek/grk.cgi?number=3982&version=nas ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 12:33:04 -0600 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> Only single choir/brand Sup? Michael Walton writes: > --- Randy Finder wrote: >> I can't come up >> with a canon superior bandmate for Jordi. Are there any >> other Canon Kyriotate Superiors? > > Nope. You forget Oannes, Kyriotate Archangel of the Waters. He's Canon, isn't he/she/it? > >> Who else is lonely (and yes I'm using lonely and a >> Kyriotate in the same sentence) other than Jordi? > > Eli is the only Mercurian AA in canon. Until Khalid Jean > was the only Elohite, but several people (including myself) > don't much care for that choice of Choir for the AA of > Faith. There are no Lilim Superiors at all. There's also Marc o.o --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:04:46 -0500 From: Joe Reimers Subject: IN> Of Munchkins and Roleplayers The Real Man: the tough macho guy (or gal) who walks up to the demon and tells him to leave before he gets hurt The Real Roleplayer: the intelligent guy who uses a well-placed Song to diffuse a difficult situation The Loony: will do anything for a cheap laugh The Munchkin: }:-) Favorite AA REAL MEN prefer Michael or David REAL ROLEPLAYERS prefer Novalis or Blandine LOONIES prefer George Burns MUNCHKINS answer directly to God (or Dominic) Favorite DP REAL MEN prefer Baal REAL ROLEPLAYERS prefer Beleth LOONIES (aw, c'mon, this is TOO easy) MUNCHKINS are on a secret mission from God and are pretending to serve Asmodeus. Favorite Choir REAL MEN prefer Malakim or Cherubim REAL ROLEPLAYERS prefer Mercurians and Kyriotates LOONIES prefer the Vienna Boys' Choir MUNCHKINS choose whichever choir has the most plusses. Favorite Band REAL MEN prefer Calabim and Djinn REAL ROLEPLAYERS prefer Impudites and Lilim LOONIES prefer arm bands MUNCHKINS prefer whichever *CHOIR* has the most plusses. Favorite AA/Choir combo REAL MEN play Cherubim of Michael REAL ROLEPLAYERS play Mercurians of Flowers LOONIES play Kyriotates of Kobal IST Jordi (leave it to a Loony to figure that one out!) MUNCHKINS play Malakim of the Sword IST War and Stone with the attunements of Malakite of War, the Sword, Judgement, Stone, Creation, Destiny, Dreams and animals; several Superior-specific attunements and the distinctions Master of War, the Sword, Judgement etc. Favorite DP/Band combo REAL MEN play Calabim of Belial REAL ROLEPLAYERS play Free Lilim LOONIES play Shedim of Kobal IST Haagenti (mmm.... bananas... but I need that peel!) MUNCHKINS play Malakim of Judgement Favorite Song REAL MEN prefer the Song of Thunder REAL ROLEPLAYERS prefer the Songs of Charm LOONIES prefer "Nature Trail to Hell (in 3-D)" MUNCHKINS prefer a variant of the Song of Holies, which results in ALL d666 rolls resulting in Divine Intervention with a duration of CD Millenea. Favorite Artifact REAL MEN prefer Violation REAL ROLEPLAYERS prefer talismans which enhance Artistic Ability rolls LOONIES are attuned to their hand buzzers MUNCHKINS choose whichever gives the most plusses Trauma REAL MEN have strong Wills to make Trauma as short as possible REAL ROLEPLAYERS give a long, introspective soliloquy on the perils of losing a portion of oneself LOONIES have fun with the Celestial Defibrillators. MUNCHKINS never suffer Trauma Limbo REAL MEN would rather have their Forces disbanded than go to Limbo REAL ROLEPLAYERS would debate the nature (or lack thereof) of Limbo LOONIES would do the Limbo MUNCHKINS never go to Limbo Starting Forces REAL MEN focus on their Corporeal and Celestial Forces in order to combat evil (or good) REAL ROLEPLAYERS concentrate on their Ethereal Forces to outwit evil (or good) LOONIES focus on Gravitational Forces MUNCHKINS start with 9 of each type of Force. Favorite IN-related movie REAL MEN watch Dogma REAL ROLEPLAYERS watch The Prophesy LOONIES watch Oh God! MUNCHKINS watch the D&D Movie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:08:52 -0400 From: Rolland Therrien Subject: IN> On Khalid's choir Well, having moved on from Khalid's motivation to the new topic of his choir, I really don't have much to add to the comments already made, but here's my opinion on the matter... Faith is ultimatly a very subjective, personal thing. It's a feeling that dwells deep inside and, for many, can't be exactly defined in words. Lord knows I don't know exactly how to explain how I feel Faith inside sometimes. Therefore, the best Angel to oversee something as subjective as Faith is ultimatly someone with the objectivity of an Archangel. While a Kyriotate might be able to experience life in the bodies of others and see the world through their eyes, he won't be able to experience their Faith, because that Faith is something too personal for a Kyrio to experience. While a Malakite might be a good protector of the Faithful, and a good judge of faithfulness, he won't understand a person's faith at a glance. While the Bright Lilim might be able to give people what they need, sometimes the Faithful need nothing but their personal relationship with God. And none of the other choirs are truly "equipped" to deal with the human, personal concept of Faith. Only the Elohites can resonnate a person's emotional and behavioral state with a resonance, allowing him to understand the person. And understanding that person gives the Elohite a doorway to understanding that person's Faith. At least, that's my opinion on the matter. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:25:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> The Demon of Sloths - --- EDG wrote: > Ophectus > Djinn of the Game > Demon of Sloths [blinks] Do I even want to know what inspired this? :> =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"If you succeed, you will make some false friends and some true enemies. Succeed anyway." - -- Bishop David M. Copeland

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:27:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Candi, Demon of Blonde - --- Joe Reimers wrote: > Currently, Candi is in her 8th year as a sophomore at > UCLA. She's studying > to be a podiatrist because she loves children, and is > quick to point out > that she's a virgin because she won't eat meat. Just one of those would've been funny. All three -- that's priceless. Thanks, Joe! =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"If you succeed, you will make some false friends and some true enemies. Succeed anyway." - -- Bishop David M. Copeland

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Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"If you succeed, you will make some false friends and some true enemies. Succeed anyway." - -- Bishop David M. Copeland

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:33:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> On Khalid's choir - --- Rolland Therrien wrote: > Only the Elohites can resonnate a person's > emotional and behavioral state with a resonance, allowing > him to understand > the person. And understanding that person gives the > Elohite a doorway to > understanding that person's Faith. Very well put. Hmmm, must contemplate it from this angle... =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"If you succeed, you will make some false friends and some true enemies. Succeed anyway." - -- Bishop David M. Copeland

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:46:23 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Renegade Archangels- Plot Seed At 6:48 PM -0600 10/10/02, sirea@softhome.net wrote: [...] >I basically made >this on the idea that all Habbalah Princes eventually go Renegade from being >unable to reconcile their Superior status and Habbalah delusions properly, While the above premise isn't caaaaanon -- this is most amusing, entertaining, and even if it's only some fruitcake theory Vapula came up with, it might STILL work. I mean, if he convinced himself... (Or even just convinced Fleurity to do it so that he could see what happened. O:> ) Most, most entertaining! - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:50:03 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Ferret-Cherubim At 11:48 PM -0400 10/10/02, Gerald Sears wrote: > A. There should be Ferret Cherubim out there. They are winged >animals. Yes. > B. Are not there songs out there to allow Celestials to breed with one >another? No. > C. Would the result of such Breeding be cast out of Heaven? Well, no, because it's not canon to happen. O:> > D. Just imagine a Ferret Cherubim/Ofanite Cross? What would that >child look like? A flaming ever moving wheel shaped like aferret? >What? If you get an Archangel to stick the Forces together, you get A: whatever the Archangel wants, and/or B: the Choir of the one who donated the most Forces. Mind, it might be a golden ferret-Cherub with eyes of whirling fire, or a slightly furry Ofanite, but... > >On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 23:33, Gerald Sears wrote: (Stuff that really should have been trimmed; it was over-quoting.) - --Beth, List Admin http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/listrules.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:58:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Renegade Archangels- Plot Seed Oy vay! Sirea, you've been missing sleep, haven't you? We've seen plenty of evidence on the list of the effect that sleep deprivation has on one's output. Nice idea, btw. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"If you succeed, you will make some false friends and some true enemies. Succeed anyway." - -- Bishop David M. Copeland

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:59:33 -0600 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: IN> Fallen Bands Revised I took the time to go over and revise the alternate Bands I made for the Major Choirs to Fall to, changing mechanics, descriptions, etc, and just cleaned it all up. I'm hoping to submit them to the Collection for everyone to use at their leisure, but I wanted to ask people with a mind for game-balance and such to tell me if the new mechanics are more refined and sensible. Comments, questions, suggestions and so on are welcomed and hoped for. Listed here are the Srafhim, the Kirobim, the Vilodim and the Muters. Not listed are the Efreets, the Havim, and the Mahanim, which are done and the mechanics finished. SRAFHIM, THE ERASERS Some Seraphim Fall because they wish to pervert the Truth and lie to others. Some Fall because they lie to themselves. And an even smaller number yet Fall because they grow to hate the Truth, and wish to never have to face it again. These angels Fall to become the Srafhim, loathsome creatures worthy of only hatred. They seek only to erase the Truth from existence, stemming from their sorry inability to deal with the harsher facts of reality. *Resonance* The resonance for a Sraf is a lesser form of oblivion and erasure of the truth. They can remove the Truth from the Symphony to a small degree, and only for a limited time. They take the truth and hide it deep within their personal symphony, until it at last breaks out again. The pure words of a Seraph though, will break the prison, and let the Truth ring clear once more. *Dissonance* To allow offending truth to exist is dissonant for a Sraf. Anytime they encounter something that offends their personal symphony, the Sraf must either resonate to imprison the truth, or ignore it completely. For everyday that they acknowledge a truth that offends them, the Sraf will sound one note of dissonance. *Manner and Appearance* Srafhim are pathetic. They ignore that which does not please them, deluding themselves that the Truth does not exist, nearly useless in the War aside from their unique resonance. In celestial form, they appear as smaller Seraphim, with pitch black feathers that do not reflect light, and their eyes have been torn from their sockets from refusing to see the Truth. Instrument-wise, the Srafhim like to think that they are the silent swoosh of a million blankets that gently cover the horrible Truth with a black, velvety layer of nothingness... *Game Mechanics* Srafhim resonate the Truth, and can make it non-existent for a while. They roll resonance like a Seraphim to see the truth, but if they encounter something they do not like, they may roll their resonance again to try to hide that truth away. They may target up to their Celestial Forces in people, and make them oblivious to a single truth. A 1 on the CD will hide the truth for a minute, 2 for an hour, 3 for 6 hours, 4 for a day, 5 for a week, and 6 for a month. If a Seraphim reminds any of the afflicted targets of the truth, the Srafhim resonance is broken immediately. Only one fact may be hidden at a time. KIROBIM, THE ISOLATORS Lonesome celestials, the Kirobim are Cherub's who simply could not bear the responsibility of attuning and caring for anything anymore, and have grown to fear interaction altogether. *Resonance* A Kirob resonates to make humans less and less likely to join together, or interact at all. Unlike Malphas though, this does not create factions. Instead it makes people ignore other people altogether, making everyone a lonely island of isolation. *Dissonance* To once again feel the warmth and joy of becoming intimate with another is forbidden to the Kirobim. A Kirob is forbidden from interacting with mortals beyond what is absolutely required of them, and personal interaction is anathema. *Manner and Appearance* Kirobim tend to either be surly loners, a little like Djinn, or isolated maniacs, fearing the presence of anything other than themselves and maybe other demons. Unlike Djinn though, they truly do NOT want to care for anyone, and it hurts their fragile personal symphony to let it interact with others. In celestial form, they look like a Cherub, but their skin or fur glows an unearthly ice-blue, and their wings are made of fragile glass, breaking when it contacts anything else. As an instrument, a Kirob only likens himself to the noise of a lone wolf calling to a non-existent pack. *Game Mechanics* The resonance of a Kirob is for separation. They may target as many people as they have Ethereal Forces, and infect their soul with a seed of cold isolation, making them less and less likely to make contact with others, and eventually grow to fear it. A 1 on the CD of their resonance will make someone uncomfortable around anyone new, a 2 around anyone except friends and family, a 3 around anyone but very close friends and loved ones, a 4 around anyone but the most intimate, a 5 will make the person avoid all contact if they possibly can, and a 6 will instill a deep -fear- of contact with anybody, causing one Mind hit for every hour they spend with another human being! A Kirob is considered to have a constant level of 5 of their resonance on themselves in relation to humans, and if they ever allow themselves to become intimate with a human, they will sound a note of dissonance. VILODIM, THE MURDERERS When a Mercurian finds herself striking a human for the first time, it can be a mixed feeling. Some are reviled by it, others confused, and some... some (hopefully) rare few, find that they enjoy it. The stench of warm blood, the snap of fragile bones, the gasp of a humans final breath. It excites the Mercurian, fills her with lust for more, until she Falls in screaming flames to become one of these monsters- the Vilodim, murderous demons who revel in the death of mankind and the pleasure it brings them to BREAK such fragile creatures. *Resonance* The resonance for a Vilodim is for violence and murderous strength over humans. They can tap into the Symphony and coax it to make them stronger, and let them kill with little fear of disturbance or retribution. *Dissonance* Oddly enough, it is dissonant for a Vilodim to attack a human who defends themselves in a direct and physical manner. A Vilodim will stop attacking immediately and flee the area, for the more damage they do to the human, the more dissonance they incur! *Manner and Appearance* Vilodim, while termed murderous beasts, like to think of themselves as cultured killers, doing what's right to thin the herd of the weak and foolish. Unlike Habbalah though, this is just the party line- the Vilodim simply wish to kill every human that doesn't lift his fleshy hand in defense, and enjoy the rush of murder. While they act as smooth and dignified as their Impudite cousins, just give them a room full of humans and that dark gleam of bloodlust will be evident in their eyes. Impudites HATE their murderous cousins with a burning passion, and often tag team with Mercurians to set up and get a Vilodite killed as quickly as possible. In celestial form they appear like Impudites do- humans with small horns or a black halo, and small batwings. But unlike Impudites, their wings, horns and halo's are all dark red, and their skin is covered with a filmy layer of blood and gore. As for instruments, Vilodim think of themselves as the hammering beat of iron drums, as a human runs for his life down a twisted corridor... *Game Mechanics* Vilodim twist the Symphony to fill them with strength, and to mask the bloody deeds they commit. When the Vilodite finds a human target, he may roll his resonance. If he suceeds, then two events occur. One, the Vilodite can choose one of his stats to boost, and it will be increased by the check digit of his roll for his (Forces appropriate to the stat boosted) in minutes. Second, the Vilodite will have a number of seconds equal to the check digit of his roll times his Celestial Forces in which to kill his target. If he kills the chosen human within that time limit, the death will not sound disturbance in the Symphony! The Vilodite will also absorb any Essence the human has left when killed. A Vilodite will incur dissonance if he attacks a human that resisted his resonance, or if the human defends himself from the initial attack, with one note of dissonance for each Body hit inflicted. Example: Iyi the Vilodite resonantes a man walking in the park at night. She has 3 Corporeal Forces, and a Strength of 6. She rolls a 4 on her check digit, and she chooses to pump her Strength, which is now 10 for the next 3 minutes. She now has 12 seconds in which to murder the man is she wishes to avoid disturbance. She manages to run up behind him, break his neck, and kill him within 5 seconds. He drops dead, and as she revels in the murder, she absorbs the 2 Essence he had left. No disturbance is made. FALLEN GRIGORI II, THE MUTERS Grigori... cast out by decree of Heaven, banished to wander among the humans they loved so. Some of them couldn't handle this though, and sought to hide from the disturbance, and it's terrible siren call to heavenly duty. Some of them couldn't take it and Fell, doing what they could to make the disturbance go away, so none could hear it, Skulking in the shadows. And some decided to just hit the God damn mute button. *Resonance* A Muter has the ability to "hit the Symphonic mute button" in a sense. They can make others deaf to disturbance, as they have made themselves so that they may never have to answer the call of duty again. Prolonged exposure can make others like the Muter, ears closed off to all Symphonic sound, Divine and Infernal. *Dissonance* Muters are very, very quiet creatures. Skulkers hide, but they still must answer the call. Muters, on the other hand, are forbidden from creating the call in the first place. Creating too much personal disturbance upsets the Muters quiet personal symphony, and makes them dissonant. *Manner and Appearance* To sum them up in a word: braindead. The Muters are manic in their hate of disturbance, they only want the clean silence of being totally deaf. They're slothful and lazy, true hedonists who are free of their responsibility to the Symphony, allowed to pursue their own selfish desires. In celestial form, they appear as giant and emaciated humanoids, with their ears torn off and metal bands crossing their heads in all directions, their skin a light and sickly black color. They are not instruments. They are the silence, sweet and dark, not a note of cursed disturbance about them. *Game Mechanics* Muters are all deaf to disturbance, except for the kind made by Superiors. They can extend this deafness to everyone within their Celestial Forces in yards, for a duration equal to their check digit in hours. They incur a note of dissonance for every ten consecutive points of disturbance they cause. Most Muters have forgotten any Songs they knew in the attempt to prevent this from happening. --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:02:21 -0600 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> The Demon of Sloths > Special thanks to Sirea. > > -EDG > > Ophectus > Djinn of the Game > Demon of Sloths *Happiness* ^o^ That's what you get from applying IN to America :D --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:03:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Fallen Bands Revised Better. The Srafim especially are much improved. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"If you succeed, you will make some false friends and some true enemies. Succeed anyway." - -- Bishop David M. Copeland

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:03:32 -0600 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> Candi, Demon of Blonde Joe Reimers writes: > Candi, Demon of Blonde, Balseraph of Dark Humor who Thinks she's a > Balseraph of Lust In Service to the Media (actually IST both Lust and the > Media). Goodness -.-;; this was a bit of good humor right here :) I have a friend who's blond, but she's extremely smart, and worries if she's a dumb blonde sometimes :D --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:05:07 -0600 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> Of Munchkins and Roleplayers Joe Reimers writes: > The Real Man: the tough macho guy (or gal) who walks up to the demon and > tells him to leave before he gets hurt > The Real Roleplayer: the intelligent guy who uses a well-placed Song to > diffuse a difficult situation > The Loony: will do anything for a cheap laugh > The Munchkin: }:-) > Wow- I was wondering when one of these would be applied to In Nomine -_-; Funny piece of work ;D (Sirea wonders how many Malakim are Real Men, and how many are Munchkins ^_~) --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:06:14 -0600 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> Only single choir/brand Sup? >> You forget Oannes, Kyriotate Archangel of the Waters. >> He's Canon, isn't he/she/it? > > Yep. He's also dead. Oh, sorry ^_^; I thought he was asking for Superiors in general, not just living ones. But he is a Kyrio :D --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:27:03 -0600 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> Renegade Archangels- Plot Seed > While the above premise isn't caaaaanon -- this is most amusing, entertaining, > and even if it's only some fruitcake theory Vapula came up with, it might > STILL work. I mean, if he convinced himself... (Or even just convinced > Fleurity to do it so that he could see what happened. O:> ) > > Most, most entertaining! > Thank you :D and as for it being fruitcake, well... most people will think that he's just gone bonkers by driving himself insane, but then, all Habbalites are pretty unstable creatures ;) --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:29:06 -0600 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> Renegade Archangels- Plot Seed > Oy vay! Sirea, you've been missing sleep, haven't you? > We've seen plenty of evidence on the list of the effect > that sleep deprivation has on one's output. > Nice idea, btw. You don't know how right you are :/ it was around 11:30 pm, on only 5 hours of sleep that I suddenly managed to squeeze this out in, while thinking fondly of the Dead Princes and their demise. College and bad sleeping habits often create some messy stuff :D And thanks ^_^ just obeying my Dark Eli... --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:38:40 -0600 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> Fallen Bands Revised Drat >_< first, I'd like to apologize profusely to Beth for this post being 12k, it said it was only 10k in the blasted save folder... I'm sorry ;-; Second, I forgot to include a small bit of flavor- Canon Princes that might work well as some of these alternate Bands Sraf: Mariel, Nybbas, Gebbeleth Efreet: Magog, Genubath, Furfur, Haagenti, Beleth, Beelzebub Kirob: Beleth, Malphas Mahanite: Asmodeus, Alaemon, Meserach, Vephar Havite: No one really Vilodite: Saminga, Furfur, Kobal, Genubath Fallen Grigori: Again, no one really. Maybe a Fallen Archangel of Song... --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 18:53:09 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> Computation in Heaven... (Re: Faith) At 1:20 AM -0400 10/11/02, Matthew Gerber wrote: >(Obscure idea seed for the computer geek crowd. Does P=NP in Heaven? What >about in Hell? How much does it matter? Has someone done this one >already?) In (yes, groan now) the SSO, ze computer techie spouse proposed a problem with one of the Lightning mainframes. It Just Wasn't Working. Turns out it needed a slower clock-speed, because it used to work just fine in Heaven -- but in Heaven, Nothing Goes Wrong. In Shangri-La (the half-way point...), it couldn't function at full supercomputer effiencey. [...] >(Trying to put the thought experiment for *this* one together is likely to >result either in migraine or in Lewis Carroll. Quite possibly both. The >fact that Maurice Lane may read this suddenly worries me badly. It should, >quite possibly, worry you too.) Always. Though in a good way... I think. >(This raises the question of whether, after a War ending in a way that >showed the Celestials and Humanity exactly what was what--q.v. "And I Feel >Fine"--Khalid would just fall over and dissipate. Perhaps this is why the Higher Heavens have a one-way street leading to them... [...] >he'd just take over the new branch of then-science that made singing noises >while Jean kept the branch that made sparks.) *laugh* (At the turn of phrase, not the concept.) - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 19:08:34 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Only single choir/brand Sup? At 10:30 AM -0400 10/11/02, Randy Finder wrote: > Are there any other Canon Kyriotate Superiors? Not that I know of... O:> >Also, is there any place online that has as easy reference >Eli-Mercurian >Saminga-Shedite The incyclopedia used to, but it's down right now. *grump* Not online, and out of print, but the GM Screen had something like this, I seem to recall? (It was a rather useless-to-me diagram, so we covered it up with a piece of paper with the resonance check digit tables...) I suspect any number of the regular posters could come up with a list off the top of their heads, though. O:> I'd do it myself if the toddler weren't sleeping on my chest in an awkward way. - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 19:05:04 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> [ADMIN] Re: Firemen Questions Note that Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW) u n s u b s c r i b e d from the list... - --Beth, List Admin http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/listrules.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 19:11:48 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Only single choir/brand Sup? At 12:33 PM -0600 10/11/02, sirea@softhome.net wrote: >Michael Walton writes: > >> --- Randy Finder wrote: >>> I can't come up >>> with a canon superior bandmate for Jordi. Are there any >>> other Canon Kyriotate Superiors? >> >> Nope. > >You forget Oannes, Kyriotate Archangel of the Waters. He's Canon, isn't >he/she/it? No. I'm not sure what Oannes is. An editor made a throwaway reference, I believe in S3, to him being an Ofanite (IIRC), but I don't know if that reference was cleared by SJ. It certainly wasn't cleared by me. >>> Who else is lonely (and yes I'm using lonely and a >>> Kyriotate in the same sentence) other than Jordi? Vapula was, till Fleurity. - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2816 ********************************