in_nomine-digest Friday, October 18 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2825 In this digest: Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... Re: IN> What can't Eli create? Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... IN> New Reliquary (was Re: I don't think...) Re: IN> New Reliquary (was Re: I don't think...) Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... Re: IN> The Urmeer Tether Re: IN> What can't Eli create? Re: IN> New Reliquary (was Re: I don't think...) Re: IN> The Urmeer Tether Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... Re: IN> New Reliquary (was Re: I don't think...) Re: IN> New Reliquary (was Re: I don't think...) Re: IN> New Reliquary (was Re: I don't think...) Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... Re: IN> New Reliquary (was Re: I don't think...) Re: IN> New Reliquary (was Re: I don't think...) Re: IN> New Reliquary (was Re: I don't think...) Re: IN> New Reliquary (was Re: I don't think...) IN> Genubath fiction-bit IN> outcasting = silly. IN> Eli and Dates Re: IN> outcasting = silly. IN> It's Normal. Really. Re: IN> It's Normal. Really. Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... Re: IN> New Reliquary (was Re: I don't think...) IN> New Discord: Legionnaire's Disease -help Re: IN> New Discord: Legionnaire's Disease -help IN> Ignore this message ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 23:35:42 +0800 From: "Jeffery Watkins" Subject: Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... > *skips, with a nod of appreciation for people polite enough -- and honest enough -- to label their work appropriately* > > > Janet Anderson Well said Janet. I thought I was a confirmed Moe-bite but I too shall skip with a Thank you for the warning Moe. Much appreciated. =) Jeff =) Part of my insanity manifest at JCT, where In Nomine meets science fiction in the far future http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jctrinityRPG - -- __________________________________________________________ Download the FREE Opera browser at www.opera.com/download/ Free OperaMail at http://www.operamail.com/ Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:56:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Unni Solaas Subject: Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Jeffery Watkins wrote: > Well said Janet. I thought I was a confirmed Moe-bite but I too shall > skip with a Thank you for the warning Moe. Much appreciated. =) > It wasn't that bad. It was just....very, very Pythonesque. I'm going to have to roll a few Really Hard saving throws vs Moe to avoid inflicting this upon my players in some form or other... >:) Moe, you're Evil. I salute you. - -- language, n; an intangible artificial construct for obscuring one's meanings and intentions to others. -ppint. Unni Solaas ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 12:40:36 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... >At 09:18 AM 10/17/2002 -0400, Whistling in the Dark wrote: > >>Well, except for one bit, which had been separated some time before. He... >>er... *was* Jewish, remember. > AAAAAAARGH! >The Great Lost Relic (also known as the *ahem* of Jesus) >Relic/6 (Corporeal Song of Fruition), Reliquary/6 >Always On, Creator/Owner Cannot Be Tracked > AAAAAAARGH! >- Amid accusations of child abuse among the clergy in Europe, there are >whispered rumors that some of the young men being abused are, beyond all >known laws of God and science, gravid with children. It turns out that all >of these young men attended the same church, but there doesn't seem to be >anything exceptional about the church, the clergy who serve there, or the >abused boys - except for the church's oddly extensive treasury. ....AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!! ::dent in Josh's wall gets a just a bit deeper:: Josh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:39:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... - --- Whistling in the Dark wrote: > > Oh dear God... what I have I done? Come on, Eric: you knew EXACTLY what you were doing. Admit it. Moe PS Nice relic, EDG. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 09/18/02 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 12:42:32 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... >> >It wasn't that bad. It was just....very, very Pythonesque. I'm going to >have to roll a few Really Hard saving throws vs Moe to avoid inflicting >this upon my players in some form or other... >:) > Seriously. This is the sort of campaign that makes me want to GM an IN game. Josh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:41:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... - --- Janet Anderson wrote: > *skips, with a nod of appreciation for people polite > enough -- and honest enough -- to label their work > appropriately* > No problem, although you could probably survive reading it. I put up the warning just so people wouldn't throw bricks at me afterwards. :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 09/18/02 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 00:41:21 +0800 From: "Jeffery Watkins" Subject: Re: IN> What can't Eli create? > Just some thoughts. I tend to go with the first, myself. > > -EDG Wow. Thanks, that gives me some perspectives about Eli. Guidelines to work with. Jeff =) Part of my insanity manifest at JCT, where In Nomine meets science fiction in the far future http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jctrinityRPG - -- __________________________________________________________ Download the FREE Opera browser at www.opera.com/download/ Free OperaMail at http://www.operamail.com/ Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:44:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... - --- Josh Moger wrote: > Seriously. This is the sort of campaign that makes > me want to GM an IN > game. That's nice to hear: a pity that there isn't a chance in Hell that I could ever actually -sell- it*. I mean, the illustrations alone would cause a firestorm... Moe *_Not_ a criticism of SJG: the adventure is just a little too out there to be marketable, IMAO. :) ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 09/18/02 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:51:08 -0700 From: " Cameron McCurry" Subject: Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... >>*_Not_ a criticism of SJG: the adventure is just a little too out there to be marketable, IMAO. Perhaps, but being in the peanut gallery at the time is so worth it. And a note to the folks who read this without having been there: I was cooking during one of these sessions. Without thinking, I was making meatball sandwiches. It went to Hell from there. -:-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:02:19 -0400 From: EDG Subject: IN> New Reliquary (was Re: I don't think...) At 12:40 PM 10/17/2002 -0400, Josh Moger wrote: >::dent in Josh's wall gets a just a bit deeper:: Sorry. -_-;; ... ... *cackle* - -EDG The Dent In Josh's Wall Reliquary/1 This is an odd reliquary, as it doesn't transfer its Essence to the user. Rather, once per day, it allows the user to transfer 1 Essence to another target through any means of communication - speaking, writing, even the Internet or a mass-media distribution. In addition, the target cannot be chosen by the user; it is essentially a random distribution of Essence to anyone who sees, hears, or witnesses in any form the communication that the user instigates. The use of the reliquary, on the other hand, is simple. It requires no roll to activate, but the user must bang his head sharply into the Dent. This causes Body hits equal to the Dent's level - almost always 1 - which heal normally. Cost: 3/level, -2 (causes Body hits equal to the artifact's level): typically 1 CP Activation: Automatic, requirements detailed in description. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:08:59 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> New Reliquary (was Re: I don't think...) On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 01:02 PM, EDG wrote: > The Dent In Josh's Wall > Reliquary/1 > So... by making Josh bang his head into the wall, we get the entertainment value of the banging *and* Bonus Essence? Excellent! - -- Eric A. Burns Freelance Writer and Textual Whore http://www.annotations.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 19:11:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Unni Solaas Subject: Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Maurice Lane wrote: > That's nice to hear: a pity that there isn't a chance > in Hell that I could ever actually -sell- it*. I > mean, the illustrations alone would cause a > firestorm... > > *_Not_ a criticism of SJG: the adventure is just a > little too out there to be marketable, IMAO. :) > Well... From what I understand, the French source fo out Dearly Beloved IN is rather more...um...explicit, satirical and out there. What I'm trying to say here is: Learn French, and plug it to Siroz. :) - -- language, n; an intangible artificial construct for obscuring one's meanings and intentions to others. -ppint. Unni Solaas ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:18:14 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> The Urmeer Tether >A marvelous idea William! I certainly hope you don't mind adaption? Have a ball with it. I post stuff for people to use. >A general question, in my game, I have Tamiel, Seraph Archangel of the >Deep By Erich Arendall, as the successor to Oannes. Would such a Tether be >accessible by her? Thanks in advance. I think it would be reasonable for a successor Archangel to claim the Tethers still in existence from the previous. It might require Tamiel replacing Oannes' Forces with her own, or some other procedure, but this would probably not be troublesome. The canon status of orphaned and replaced Tethers is a little vague, so there's wiggle room. It is probably easier if Tamiel moved into or adapted Oannes' Grotto in Heaven, since that is where Medad's Tether would normally terminate. Medad would surely know that an Archangel had claimed the Tether -- he himself, however, would still be Outcast, unless this status of the Grigori has changed in your game. Have fun! William ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:36:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> What can't Eli create? - --- Randy Finder wrote: > Any suggestions for things that he can't create? Negative matter, perhaps. Not anti-matter; that's just like normal matter except that the constituent particles have their charges and spins reversed. Negative matter actually has negative mass. Think of the old riddle, "What gets bigger the more you take out of it? A hole." Well, the hole is a good analogy for negative matter. It's beyond vacuum, a volume of space where the density of matter is less than zero. It seems to me that Eli would have a hard time making less-than-nothing -- though if anybody could figure it out, he could. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"If you succeed, you will make some false friends and some true enemies. Succeed anyway." - -- Bishop David M. Copeland

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Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"If you succeed, you will make some false friends and some true enemies. Succeed anyway." - -- Bishop David M. Copeland

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 14:05:59 -0400 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> The Urmeer Tether At 11:56 PM 10/16/2002 -0400, William J. Keith wrote: >The Urmeer Tether (the word is Ur-meer, primitive ocean, and may be older >than this source but I personally borrowed it from Roger Zelazny) is >possibly one of the largest on Earth. Very cool, and nicely symbolic. One wonders whether - with a little expanded thinking on the Seneschal's part - this could be extended to apply to space (vis-a-vis "the edge of the visible universe"). By the way, "ur-meer" is German, and does literally mean "primitive/original/ancient sea/ocean". :) - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:11:58 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... From: "Maurice Lane" > > No problem, although you could probably survive > reading it. I put up the warning just so people > wouldn't throw bricks at me afterwards. :) I always said you were nuts, Moe... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 12:37:08 -0600 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... I don't know whats worse, the fact that I'm so jaded that this doesn't shock me, or the fact that I found it incredibly funny ;-; --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 14:52:21 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> New Reliquary (was Re: I don't think...) >--- EDG wrote: >> The Dent In Josh's Wall >> Reliquary/1 > > !!! > > [falls out of chair] > > [picks self back up] > > EDG, I am so gonna get you for this... 0:> > YOU?! HE MADE IT OUT OF MY HEAD!!! Feeling very Malcovichy, Josh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 16:02:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher Anthony" Subject: Re: IN> New Reliquary (was Re: I don't think...) Josh Moger said: > YOU?! HE MADE IT OUT OF MY HEAD!!! It could have been worse. And it's about to be. (Remember, it's all in good fun! :) - -EDG The Dent In Josh's Wall Very Weak - Faith Forces: 1 (From Josh) Locus: The Dent Capacity: 1 Force Flow: 1/day Influence: Weak Speed of Passage: Normal Josh doesn't know it, but he's attuned to a Tether. It's very weak, and represents his faith that one day, someone will post something that doesn't make him beat his head against the wall. Unfortunately, Josh doesn't realize that if this ever happens, the Tether will dissipate; fortunately, much of the rest of the List does, and they're working hard to avoid it. They haven't gone so far as to track him down and start hanging out at his house in an attempt to expand the Tether, but it won't be long until someone thinks of the idea. There's an additional quirk to the Tether: by banging his head into the wall (thereby increasing the Dent, however slightly), Josh can gain 1 extra Essence, once per day. Adventure seeds: - - Okay, first of all, how the hell did Khalid attune a human - and a normal at that - to a Tether as its Seneschal? (On the other hand, Josh *is* the one who single-handedly formed the Tether in the first place. Maybe he has a connection to it.) - - Demons have finally tracked down that annoying noise in the Symphony, and it's coming from Josh Moger's house. Can the angelic members of the List get there in time to stop the demons from burning the place to the ground (and thereby destroying the Tether) - for that matter, can the angelic members of the List *find* the Tether in the first place? And if they fail, what'll happen to Josh when he doesn't have anything to bang his head against anymore? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 16:54:04 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> New Reliquary (was Re: I don't think...) > >The Dent In Josh's Wall >Very Weak - Faith >Forces: 1 (From Josh) >Locus: The Dent >Capacity: 1 Force >Flow: 1/day >Influence: Weak >Speed of Passage: Normal O.O ~.~ O.O ::blink:: Well, on the one hand, I guess this'll help the next time Beth smacks me with list dissonance. On the other hand, I'm probably going to be dodging Dark Humor demons for the next month at least. And because of Dark Humor demons there'll be Demons of the Game, who will be followed closely by Angels of Judgement, who are probably being stalked by Angels of Creation and the Wind... and there will probably be some angels of War and Divine Fire coming to see what the fuss is about... which will probably serve to create the critical mass needed to achieve a party worthy of roping in Eli. He's an Attunement, he's a Relic, he's a Tether and a Seneschal, he's- Josh I suppose trying to get ^_^' was a bit of self-prophecy... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:55:09 -0300 From: pbarkow@hfx.eastlink.ca Subject: Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... *applauds* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 14:44:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> New Reliquary (was Re: I don't think...) - --- Christopher Anthony wrote: > It could have been worse. > > And it's about to be. Tanj! I'm just glad you didn't make it a Tether to Hardcore -- Furfur would love all that head-banging. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"If you succeed, you will make some false friends and some true enemies. Succeed anyway." - -- Bishop David M. Copeland

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Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"If you succeed, you will make some false friends and some true enemies. Succeed anyway." - -- Bishop David M. Copeland

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:46:44 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> New Reliquary (was Re: I don't think...) >--- Josh Moger wrote: >> Well, on the one hand, I guess this'll help the next time >> Beth smacks me with list dissonance. > > Only if you don't turn the Dissonance into Discord... > >Hardheaded (Corporeal) Dear God... I've become an Iron Rev... Josh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:54:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher Anthony" Subject: Re: IN> New Reliquary (was Re: I don't think...) Michael Walton said: > Tanj! I'm just glad you didn't make it a Tether to > Hardcore -- Furfur would love all that head-banging. Don't tempt me, Michael... However, I will write up another, just for fun (and 'cos he'd get a kick out of it). - -EDG Moe's Place Average - Destiny Forces: 7 Locus: Moe's Place (all floors) Capacity: 7 Flow: Slow (1/6 hours) Influence: Average Speed: Average Features: Restricted (passage through Tether requires permission of resident), Transferable Description: My God, it's full of books! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 19:39:07 -0400 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> Genubath fiction-bit > Heh heh... but my question is, where > does he keep the Lost Monet? Well if he knew that it wouldn't be lost. ;) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 19:39:05 -0400 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> outcasting = silly. > like an Internet user who's used to using broadband and suddenly finds > himself with copper phone wires and a 300-baud modem. You mean like being grounded, like a kid? So that their comings and goings through Tethers can be monitored? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 19:39:07 -0400 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> Eli and Dates >> the date when eli went missing. > 1957 Wasn't that The Year of The Tailfin? I think the Edsel was 1959. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 19:44:18 -0400 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: Re: IN> outcasting = silly. BC Petery said unto us: > You mean like being grounded, like a kid? So that their comings and goings > through Tethers can be monitored? Interesting comparison. And I think once an angel is Outcast, any Angelic Tether is going to do their best to get *someone* (Preferably a Cherub) to keep an eye on them. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 23:15:48 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: IN> It's Normal. Really. This quick post was inspired by a button that lives in my desk drawer, picked up at a RenFaire some indeterminate number of years ago, which reads "Any Excuse to Carry a Sword is a Good Excuse." The artifact acts pretty simply. One way or another, it convinces mundanes that the user has every right to be doing something they would probably otherwise take as exceedingly odd. Both sides love the artifacts, as they help keep the War under wraps(though demons get a bit more mileage out of them). Interestingly, there are a number of means to achieve the same goal - -- perhaps it's so natural for the Symphony to be 'left alone' that the way is naturally smoothed for anybody trying to see to it that mundanes remain so. The most common core to the relic these days is a variant of the Ethereal Song of Forbidding, which forbids victims from letting their thoughts dwell on the user's actions. Alaemon favors those using his ethereal Song of Deception, which makes it seem quite reasonable that the user is doing whatever he is doing; and occasionally old relics from Mariel's days, with the Ethereal song of Forgetting, pop up. Each will have slightly different effects, but the basic use remains the same: the user goes about his business as if everything is perfectly normal, and people in the area tend to agree. Carrying a sword? Must be RenFaire. Hands glowing with green fire? People really ought not to carry fireworks, but it's none of my business. Flapping a pair of big fluffy wings? I just figured he was in some kind of costume. Mundanes will usually be the ones fooled -- it is not in the normal course of their life for someone to be running a celestial War in front of them. It *is* in the daily course of existence for a celestial, and it is quite rational for him to be wary of odd people carrying pointy objects around, for instance. Relic: "Any Excuse..." Song/# +# Convenience: can be worn +2 Fragility: typical +0 Total: 2 points + level of song (I'm not sure if I have this right.) William ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 23:58:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> It's Normal. Really. On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, William J. Keith wrote: > Relic: "Any Excuse..." Very, VERY useful item - though I wouldn't like it in my games. More fun to make the players damned anxious anytime they have to get miraculous. :) > Song/# +# > Convenience: can be worn +2 > Fragility: typical +0 > > Total: 2 points + level of song (I'm not sure if I have this right.) Nope. "Song/# = (# x 3) points", so it's 2 points plus three times the level of the song. (Yeah, it's way overpriced. Artifacts are like that in In Nomine.) - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is _the best_. -- Frank Zappa, "Packard Goose" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 23:55:20 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> I don't think that I dare Crosspost this to Pyramid... > (including "Moe, what's the Power of a motorcycle?"), and at least two Context: My wahoo Ofanite of Destiny was in the final combat with the Djinn, and I didn't want to get off said motorcycle. So, I ran one of them over, parked the rear wheel over his face.... and revved the engine. The *look* on Moe's face.... > - the device's way of indicating to the PCs that they were being attacked: > tapping out Morse code... ("What does waterfowl have to do with anything?") Well, there was also the fact that the party Malakite who was carrying said phallus (the rest of us being too chickenshit to go into the back room and get it, we sent Cam's PC, with the justifcation "You don't suffer Trauma") was riding on the back of my motorcycle as I raced to the Tether, and it... kinda.... grew.... on him. The Morse code was tactile, yes. "Cam, is that a penis in your pocket, or.... nevermind." And I STILL say I should've invoked Eli at the Kit Kat Klub. I mean, a bunch of Lusties being *forced* to love humans? That's gotta be an invocation mod right there. Would've been hilarious, I tellya. - -- Casca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 22:48:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> New Reliquary (was Re: I don't think...) - --- Christopher Anthony wrote: > However, I will write up another, just for fun (and > 'cos he'd get a > kick out of it). Yup. > -EDG > > Moe's Place The only Tether in existence where the Seneschal is also an Archangel; how Jaymiel managed this is unknown, but most suspect blatant nepotism. However, even she can't keep the books in order, despite valiant efforts to the contrary... :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 09/18/02 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 09:57:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Randy Finder Subject: IN> New Discord: Legionnaire's Disease -help Someone on the radio was talking about Legionnaires disease and I was thinking In Nomine, so... Note I do not have the books and haven't played the game, so this will need a lot of help, if it is even workable... (I'll wait on putting it into the normal form until I get some help) Legionaire's Disease is a Celestial Discord that *only* affects Shedim. For each level of Discord, one force (selected at random, but may not lower forces in any area below 1, or total below 5) goes wandering to another host. If there are not enough forces to actually take over the host, the forces ride passively in the host and the shedim receives the passive information from the sense of that host. For each force the Shedim may try to direct the force to a particular host that either he can see *or* that a previous force has been ended up with. this takes a roll against will (maybe should be tougher like will -2). If enough of the wandering forces end up in a host to control it, the shedim may make a roll against will -4 to control it. However all of the wandering forces are reset and these rolls must be rerolled each day at sundown... The Horde *really* doesn't like this Discord for two reasons. 1)if a significantly powerful Shedite (say Saminga) were to figure out how to allow more than 6 forces to wander, It might allow the return of Legion 2) the experiences coming from more than one host cause a significant tendency toward the Shedite Redeaming into a Kyriotate. The host on the other hand looks at a Shedite who get increasing levels of this Discord as a possible redemption candidate. Example Ichthos Shedim of the Media has 8 forces (1,3,4) in Los Angeles has a Will of 8 and Legionnaire's Disease/2. At Sundown the 2 forces that had wandered the previous day (to a monkey in South American and a sheep in Scotland) return. This day, the first force is ethereal and he rolls against his will to have it go to a dog nearby. He rolls a 6 and succeeds. The second force is Celestial and tries to make it also go to the same dog. he rolls a 3 and succeeds on that as well. Since he has enough forces to take over the dog, he rolls to do so and gets a 2 which means he can control the Dog in addition to his normal host. If he doesn't control the dog, he just gets the sensory information. Note this means that a Shedim of 10 forces could control two people, but would have to roll 5 successful will rolls and a control will-4 roll... YiLFS Randy Finder - -- Leadership, Friendship and Service - Alpha Phi Omega ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 10:39:16 -0400 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> New Discord: Legionnaire's Disease -help At 09:57 AM 10/18/2002 -0400, Randy Finder wrote: >Someone on the radio was talking about Legionnaires disease and I was >thinking In Nomine, so... Note I do not have the books and haven't played >the game, so this will need a lot of help, if it is even workable... (I'll >wait on putting it into the normal form until I get some help) A few notes that I need to make here: 1) Discord shouldn't be helpful. This seems like it attempts to duplicate one of the more useful features of the Kyriotate resonance. (Yes, there's a penalty, but it doesn't really seem significant.) 2) I get the pun, but it's going to confuse people, especially as it doesn't duplicate any of the symptoms of legionellosis. 3) (As regards your example.) Shedim can *only* possess humans. Dogs are out of the question. 4) (Nitpick.) Shedim is plural. Shedite is the singular. Suggest the following modifications: * The Shedite cannot, under any circumstances, control the missing Forces. The new host for each of them is selected randomly from the humans within (Discord level * 10) yards, and a single host may carry more than one Force. However, a human who already has another Shedite rider cannot be a host. If there are no suitable hosts within the Discord's range, the missing Forces are "loose", tied to nobody in particular and providing no input. However, a secondary host who moves out of range retains his missing Force(2) until all of the missing Forces return to the Shedite at sunset to seek out new hosts. * If the Shedite has Forces in another host, he may attempt to piggyback on the host's senses; this requires a successful Perception roll, less the level of the Discord but with a bonus equal to (the number of Shedite Forces in the host - 1). The Shedite may only receive sensory input from (total Forces / 3, round *down*) hosts at once, and suffers a penalty to any Will rolls to control his main host equal to the number of hosts (including the main host) from whom he is trying to get sensory input. * The Shedite cannot, under any circumstances, control or influence his secondary hosts in any way, except through the actions of his primary host. * Each secondary Host must, at the time of possession, roll against Strength with a penalty equal to the number of missing Forces to which they are a host; failure indicates that they have contracted a disease that causes slow system failure, not unlike pneumonia but with additional features. This is a disease with Speed 1 and Level equal to the failed roll's check digit, which lasts a number of weeks equal to the number of missing Forces they currently possess. A host who already suffers from this disease must still roll Strength, but a failure will only increase the Level of the disease *to* the check digit (never decreasing it), while a success lowers the Level *by* the check digit, removing it entirely if the CD is greater than the current Level of the disease. In addition, if this disease kills someone, it counts as the death of a host for the Shedite! Example: Ed is the host to two of Ichthos's missing Forces. He must make a Strength roll at a penalty of 2 as the Forces come into his body. His Strength is 5, so he needs to roll a 3 or better; unfortunately, he fails, with a CD of 3. He now contracts the disease specified above, at Speed 1 and Level 3. The next night, he has the misfortune of playing host to two Forces from the same Shedite, for a penalty of 2 to his Strength roll; fortunately, although he fails, his CD is only 1, so the disease is unaffected. (If the CD had been 4-6, the disease would have risen in level to the CD. On the third night, he is host to a single Force from *another* Shedite with this Discord. He takes a penalty of 1 to his Strength roll, and succeeds with a CD 5. This is greater than the disease's current level, so the disease is purged from his system. - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 15:42:53 -0600 From: ebertish@softhome.net Subject: IN> Ignore this message Have I fallen off the list, or did it get really quiet alla sudden? -- Eric ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2825 ********************************