in_nomine-digest Wednesday, October 23 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2831 In this digest: Re: IN> The Angel of Snipers Re: IN> The Angel of Snipers Re: IN> For your approval: Saint Richelieu RE: IN> The Angel of Snipers RE: IN> The Angel of Snipers RE: IN> The Angel of Snipers Re: IN> The Angel of Snipers IN> Inspired by a recent post... IN> One Rave, no Rant... Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... IN> [fiction] "My Boyfriend, Jesus Christ" Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... Re: IN> One Rave, no Rant... RE: IN> The Angel of Snipers Re: IN> [fiction] "My Boyfriend, Jesus Christ" Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... Re: IN> One Rave, no Rant... Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... Re: IN> [fiction] "My Boyfriend, Jesus Christ" Re: IN> [fiction] "My Boyfriend, Jesus Christ" Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... Re: IN> [fiction] =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22My?= Boyfriend, Jesus =?iso-8859-1?Q?Christ=22?= Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... Re: IN> [fiction] "My Boyfriend, Jesus Christ" RE: IN> Archangel's sigils: part 2 - Janus to Michael Re: IN> Archangel's sigils: part 2 - Janus to Michael IN> Questions, confusions, and requests Re: IN> Questions, confusions, and requests ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 14:09:10 -0400 From: Rolland Therrien Subject: Re: IN> The Angel of Snipers >>ObIN: I bet Malphas is having a ball with the sniper attacks -- when you have no idea who is behind them, you suspect everybody. Malphas Nothing... This guy must work for Beleth. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 14:40:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Randy Finder Subject: Re: IN> The Angel of Snipers On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Rolland Therrien wrote: > >>ObIN: I bet Malphas is having a ball with the sniper attacks -- when you > have no idea who is behind them, you suspect everybody. > > Malphas Nothing... This guy must work for Beleth. OK, lets go through each of the DPs Alaemon: No Andrealphus: No Asmodeus: Very unlikely Ba'al: doesn't seem like his style Beleth: Definately in the running Belial: Probably no Fleurity: No. Furfur: Iffy. Haagenti: Didn't think so, but that was before the 10 million ransom Kobal: Maybe Kronos: Probably not Lilith: No Malphus: Not enough suspicions on other groups. Even the idea that he is Arab isn't flying particularly well. Mammon: Maybe with the ransom demand. Nybbas: Definate possibilities Saminga: Doesn't seem like his style either Valefor: No Vapula: No, (nothing has blown up) My vote: Nybbas. Randy > > - -- Leadership, Friendship and Service - Alpha Phi Omega ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 19:41 +0100 (BST) From: jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) Subject: Re: IN> For your approval: Saint Richelieu In article <001501c27a4f$3aee5c60$b03ac818@Vidotron.videotron.ca>, rolland.therrien@videotron.ca (Rolland Therrien) wrote: > Laurence impressed him as being a better lord then King Louis XIII Damn straight, said the Dumas fan... - --- John Dallman jgd@cix.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 14:52:24 -0400 From: "Wajenberg, Earl" Subject: RE: IN> The Angel of Snipers On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Rolland Therrien wrote: > OK, lets go through each of the DPs [...] > Furfur: Iffy. I dunno. A meaningless rampage seems very Furfurry to me. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:02:03 -0700 From: " Cameron McCurry" Subject: RE: IN> The Angel of Snipers Moe, I had to laugh when I found out what you thought was controversial about Laharoi. Personally, I always figured that Novalis' attitude towards violence is summed up like this: "Never confuse desire for peace with an inability to do violence." Or as you said once "Never make Novalis angry. You might get really unlucky and succeed." Wonder what other unusual Word-Bounds I can put up here.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:15:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Randy Finder Subject: RE: IN> The Angel of Snipers On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Wajenberg, Earl wrote: > On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Rolland Therrien wrote: > > > OK, lets go through each of the DPs > [...] > > Furfur: Iffy. > > I dunno. A meaningless rampage seems very Furfurry to me. That is just it, it isn't a meaningless rampage to him, he has *complained* about being hung up on by people at the tip line and will stop for a large amount of money. He has also offered to stop for money. Do Furfurians(?) care about money in that way? Now, taking a handgun and shooting up a Mcdonalds, that could be Furfur... Randy > > Earl > - -- Leadership, Friendship and Service - Alpha Phi Omega ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:53:39 -0600 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> The Angel of Snipers Eh... I liked the write-up, but all this talking about it being IN is making me feel a little bad... I know it's peoples way of dealing with it, but people are dying because some insane and horrible person is slaughtering them... even kids! I just... feel guilty thinking about it like it's IN :/ people are suffering, and this guy needs to be brought to justice, NOW. Sorry -_- --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:48:27 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: IN> Inspired by a recent post... The Habbalite was focused completely on his task, his laser scope trained on his target, his entire concentration within his Word and rifle. His Impudite watcher was easy to dispatch. A simple sword blow to the head, and he fell. I quieted his fall and made sure to direct the wound away from so as not to be splattered. The Habbalite, consumed with his assignment and his target, never heard me approach. He heard the slight whistle through the air, but I'm sure he thought his pet Impudite would have taken care of any possible danger. This one was so sure of himself. So prideful. He had long been lost because his inability to reconcile his Word with his Superior's, but that he would take another of God's angels into the Pit with him when he Fell... He never even felt the blade enter or exit. The latter because of the blade, the former because of his Trauma. Good. Sometimes it can be far more difficult to be Just. Kenshiel Malakite of the Sword IST Judgment Angel of the Assassin Corporeal: 4 Str- 6 Agl- 10 Ethereal: 4 Int- 8 Pre- 8 Celestial: 4 Will- 8 Per- 8 Vessel: Male (just below avg. height, Japanese)/4 Skills: Acrobatics/3, Climbing/2, Detect Lies/1, Dodge/3, Escape/2, Fighting/6, Knowledge (Various sword arts of Eastern origin)/6, Language (Japanese)/4, Large weapon (Katana)/6, Move Silently/5, Running/3, Small Weapon (Wazikashi)/6, Tactics/4, Throwing/3, Tracking/3 Songs: Attraction (Cel/4), Form (Eth/3, Cel/3), Healing (All/3), Nemesis (Cel/3), Opening (Cor/1), Shadows (Cor/3), Silence (Cor/6), Tongues (Cel/3) Arifacts: Katana (Reliquary/5) Wazikashi (Reliquary/3) Attunements: Malakite of Judgment, Malakite of the Sword, Ofanite of the Sword, Hunt, Blade Blessing Angel of the Assassin: When facing a target he has been ordered against by an Archangel, Kenshiel has one chance to turn down the assignment after he has examined the evidence. If he ultimately accepts the assignment he gains the ability to perform a variant of Laurence's Blade Blessing attunement- this allows him, after a willpower roll, to spend 5 essence and gift any weapon with a +10 power for [check digit] rounds. This, however, can only be done in the presence of the target and if used against anyone but the target will cause Kenshiel to gain at three notes of dissonance, one for his own oath (see below), and one each for Dominic and Laurence's dissonance conditions. Suffice to say, Kenshiel usually prefers working in a situation where he only has to concentrate on his opponent. Oaths: "Suffer not an evil to live, if it is my choice." "Never surrender, or allow myself to be captured by the forces of Lucifer." "Never strike at an opponent with power unwarranted." "If there is to be a kill, it shall be swift and clean." "Never allow my opponent to use an innocent as a shield." "Never allow myself to inflict a punishment greater than the crime." Discord: While usually neither Dominic nor Laurence would allow a servitor, especially a Malakite, to go long with Discord, Kenshiel has been allowed to carry this as a constant reminder of his fifth oath. Scarred/2 Stigmata/1- appearing as an x shaped cut on his left cheek, the wound is almost always dry, unless Kenshiel has recently finished an assigment. When the target has been killed- either soul dead or simply his vessel killed- Kenshiel's scar will begin bleeding until he is able to make it to a tether and back to Heaven. Going Celestial will stop the bleeding, but only until he has returned to his vessel. Kenshiel took to Laurence fairly early in his existence as a Reliever. He watched Laurence every day, drinking in the swordplay. He loved his Archangel, the graceful movements, the blade becoming a piece of art in Laurence's hands. He idolized his Archangel and though he was of simply four forces, he knew that one day he would be a Malakite as his Superior, a gleaming blade to be used in the service of Heaven. Kenshiel practiced constantly, allowing himself to ask his Superior for a new force only after he had mastered a sword or a form of swordplay. He took to the katana early in his training, and added to his knowledge of Asian fighting arts as he grew up. Once he fledged to a Malakite, he asked Laurence for a time of service on the Corporeal. Laurence agreed and the new Malakite began his tours of duty upon Earth, each time again studying the craft of the sword and using his skills increasingly effectively upon the infernal. His skills even allowed him to create a minor legacy- "He who makes it rain blood." A title given to him while he held the Role of an assassin in Japan. Kenshiel actually suffered a great deal from that particular time, including allowing a woman to come between him and those he was employed to fight. It would be her death that sealed within Kenshiel's mind the dark destiny his path had brought him to. He went to Laurence, Discordant and injured, and asked his Superior for two things- One- the recently vacated Word of the Assassin. Two- Transfer to the service of Judgment. Kenshiel felt that his dishonored state was no longer pure enough to serve his beloved Archangel, but that he could possibly atone while serving under Dominic's ever watching eye. However, Kenshiel did understand that he had been forged into the instrument of God's wrath that he had sought after for so long. For Kenshiel, it wasn't hubris, but simple reasoning that as the most qualified angel for the Word, he should be given it so as to most effectively strike against the demons. Laurence knew that pride had never been a failing of his servitor and agreed to both requests- with a stipulation. Whenever Kenshiel felt as though he had earned Salvation, the Sword would be there to be taken up again. Kenshiel thanked his former Superior and left the Halls of Worship to seek an audience with Dominic. Dominic knew not what to make of this paradoxical former servitor of the Sword, but after a demonstration of his abilities, he understood what an instrument he had been presented with. Kenshiel was given his Word a short time later. Michael knew of Kenshiel from the latter's service to Laurence, and knew that he was the proper servitor, even serving the Hyena as he now would. Kenshiel's attitude toward the War is simple- the Symphony is perfect. The demons and infernal influence are discordant jarring notes upon that perfection. Though others seek to loudly and blindly destroy demons or work with them, Kenshiel *quiets* them. He is there to lay a light finger upon the discordant string until it is silenced. Now, whether that string is a demon and that light finger is his essence charged katana... Well, semantics. Kenshiel has a special hatred for Habbalah. That they would Fall is one thing. That they would in their delusion seek to punish humanity for simply existing is bad enough. But that they should continue to blaspheme God's name by saying that they continue to serve the Lord... That can not be. For Kenshiel that shall not be. Kenshiel has turned down assignments in the past, he has mercy and he refuses to kill any human but the worst Hellsworn, he has *never* refused to take one of the Habbalah as a target. The Habbalah who hear of this find it ironic that the Malakite who is physically scarred and carries his pain so visibly, as all Habbalah do, is one who is so devoted to their destruction. Well, they find it ironic for the 1.5 seconds they can realize it before Kenshiel's blade has finished it's work. He's *very* quiet. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:54:27 -0400 From: Rolland Therrien Subject: IN> One Rave, no Rant... Man, I'm on a roll today. ^^ Here's a new Demoness I'm sure you'll love. Hushai Lillim of the Media Demon of the Rave Corporeal Forces: 3 Strength: 4 Agility: 8 Ethereal Forces: 4 Intelligence: 7 Precision: 9 Celestial Forces: 4 Will: 9 Perception: 7 Vessel: Female Human vessel/2, Charisma/3 Role: "Hush", Rising DJ Level/3, Status/3 Skills: Artistry/6, Computer Operation/6, Dodge/4, Driving/4, Electronics/6, Emote/3, Fast-Talk/4, Knowledge (Current Musics/6), Languages (English/3, French/2, Japanese/2, Spanish/2), Lying/3, Running/2, Savoir-Fair/2, Seduction/4, Singing/5 Songs: Attraction (Ethereal/4), Charm (All/4), Deception (All/3), Essence (Corporeal/3), Opening (Ethereal/4), Sensation (all/3), Shields (Celestial/4), Sleep (Corporeal/4) Attunements: Lilim of the Media, Subliminal, Knight of Influence, Captain of Swank, Baroness of the Fourth Estate Geasa: At any one time, Hushai has about four or five Geas Hooks on different humans or Demons who desire to do business at one of her Raves. Rites: -Spend six hours listening to the radio -Special Rite: Spend six hours DJing for a Rave. Resources: -Soundboard of Satan: Reliquary/6 -Servants: Four 5-Force Humans working as her "crew" To Hushai, the world is one Big Rave, and the party don't stop 'till your metabolism does. Pity humans are so fragile, isn't it? Hushai (or Hush, as she likes to be called) was once your typical "Free Party Lilim", the kind of Infernal social butterfly that generally fluttered from Hellish gathering to Hellish gathering, trading favors and trying to stay one step ahead of those who tried to bind her in any way. She loved visiting dance clubs, with it's large throngs of humans all wanting something: company, a dance partner, someone to drink with, some drugs, some other illicit pleasures... What more could a Lilim want? It was during one of her "Club Runs" that, concluding a Geas trade with some Impudites, that she realized just how much potential there was in having someone organise these little Nightclubs for Hellish business dealings. She made some inquiries amongst princely organisations, and came to the conclusion that to accomplish this little "quest", she'd have to enter in the service of The Media. And so Hushai traded in her Freedom for the power of the Media. Almost immediatly, she began using her new Role to become a Dj at a New York dance club, organising a "Dance Night" with invitations for every Demon wanting to do business in an interferance-free environment. Much to the surprise of many, it worked, after a fashion. Only a quarter of the invited demons (5 Lusties, 3 Pushers, 2 Gluttons, 1 Jester and a Gamester invited "for security reasons"), but these Demons found their night at that party quite satisfactory, business-wise. With Word of Mouth on her side, her next "gathering" was more of a success, and even the infiltration of a couple angels (A Flower and a Creationner with the Flower rite of dancing), her next few gatherings were successes as well. Word got to her Prince, who decided she might be "the next big sound, Babe", and so he Knighted her, and noticing her talent at the Sound board, suggested she use her Hour of Radio to show off her skills. As chance would have it, techno music and mixing was becoming quite popular in the nightclubs she played in, and fully embraced the style. Soon, "The Hush Hour" was one of the more popular radio shows for NY's nightclub scene, and Hush was the DJ most in demand. Every club she played in was garanteed a full house, and the only way to get a sure way in was to be on Hush's personal "Guest List". After her second big hit party, Nybbas awarded her with the Captainhood of Swank. Naturally, when the Rave scene started, Hush was one of the first DJs to leap head-first into the movement, and actually experimented with using her Subliminal Attunement to mix in The Corporeal Song of Sleep with her Music, but realized that for the big parties she was hoping to host, she'd need to convince her Prince to bestow her the Baronhood of the Fourth Estate. Fortunatly, after a quick demonstration with some of her servents, Nybbas was convinced that Hushai's plan could work. So, as an experinement, she became a Baroness of the Fourth Estate and hosted her first big Rave, with a Subliminal performance of Corporeal Sleep as an opening act, followed by the Celestial Song of Charm. Those two performances alone drained her almost completly, but in exchange for "Invitations" to do business in that first rave, Demons of Lust, Drugs and Gluttony payed a decent "Cover Charge" which made up for it. All in all, her first rave was a great success. ...Which probably explained why, after her performance, Lucifer revealed himself to her and congratulated "The New Demon of the Rave" for a "Promising Performance". She's been working hard to keep up with those high expectations. These days, Hushai pretty much continues with this little success story, organising Raves where she mentally and morally weakens the crowds, leaving them open for Hellish agents. You can always find her Raves haunted by Impudites, Habbalah, Shedim and Lilim of various words, all doing what they do best amongst the gathered human dancers. There are always Servitors of Lust, Drugs and Gluttony doing business in her Raves as well. And it's not infrequent for demons of other words to frequent them as well, finding a dark, quiet corner to talk in the safety of plain sight. She does have a partner in crime, nowadays: Irimushi, an Impudite of Technology who serves as her main technician. He helps her gather up the Essence needed for her performances, and has built a few Artifacts as well: The Soundboard of Satan is the reliquary which she now uses to fuel most of her Subliminal Recordings, and he uses a Smoke-Machine with the Celestial Song of Shields built in to create the "Zone of Silence" needed to keep Heaven's attention away from the Raves until after the party's nearly over. They have a good working relationship so far. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 05:04:37 +0800 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... That's *good.* Janet Anderson - -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 14:08:38 -0700 From: " Cameron McCurry" Subject: Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... It's an interesting idea, but I only have two minor quibbles. 1. I doubt that Laurence would sponsor one of his angels for the Word of Assassins. It just goes against his approach to combat. 2. I wouldn't think that either Dominic or Laurence or even other Malakim would tolerate a Virtue with Discord. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:11:11 -0700 From: Harukami Subject: IN> [fiction] "My Boyfriend, Jesus Christ" [Warning: Some interpretation of religious figures which people might find offensive, but if so, I'm wondering why you're playing this game anyway. ^_~] My Boyfriend, Jesus Christ - by Harukami "Helen, I don't know why you put up with him." Helen looked to where her boyfriend was leaning against the bar counter, quite clearly chatting up... some guy. And it was *just* some guy - late twenties, tired-looking, sketchpad open on the bar next to him; could have been anyone. The artist was slowly starting to smile as her boyfriend waved his hands in a wide gesture. "What do you mean?" Helen finally asked Julie. "I mean, look at that. Jesus, can't he even keep it in his pants for ten minutes? Guys, girls... and with you - his own *girlfriend* - sitting right here. I swear to God I would dump him faster than you can say 'philandry'." After a moment, Helen laughed and shook her head. "Naw, I don't mind, really. There's just something about him you can't be jealous of - and you can't *own* people, they have to have freedom. He doesn't cheat, Sarah. He just makes love to other people sometimes." "Well, I wouldn't put up with it. I can't believe you sometimes. It's like you think he's God or something." "Actually, he might be," Helen said. Julie cracked up. After a few moments of silence from Helen, she stopped. "You don't think you're joking." Helen shook her head. "What kind of crack have you been smoking?" "No, really," Helen said. "Jesus Christ. Second coming. I'm sure of it." "What, like," Julie said, snorting. "He can turn water into wine?" "Yeah." Julie stared at her. "I saw it!" Helen said defensively. "I hadn't been shopping, and neither had he, and we were out of EVERYTHING and I said that I wasn't in the mood for water, and that I would seriously owe him if he'd pick me up some good wine, and he grinned and poured me a glass of water from the tap but when he handed it to me it was wine. Good wine, too. Tasted French, but like, French from before the grapes all died and they had to get 'em imported. Because French wine just sucks now, and Australian's the only way to-" "You ARE on crack." "No, it's true." "Your boyfriend turns water into wine." "There are other things too. Like the other day, this talent scout showed up..." *** "Hey there, babe! Is your boyfriend in?" He leaned past her. "Yeah. What do you want?" "We have been sent to offer you a Great New Deal for you joining us!" Helen wrinkled her nose as the guy talked. He was like every commercial she'd ever hated all rolled up into one. "Helen, mind going inside for a moment?" The commercial-man turned a cheesy smile on Helen. "Ah, Helen? I should have guessed, babe, you're *gorgeous*. Could rival the Helen herself!" "Helen of Troy was probably overrated," she said. "Naw," her boyfriend said, scratching at his stubble. "Helen *was* beautiful. Not the most beautiful woman in the world, but pretty beautiful." "Helen of Troy," the commercial-man said, apparently irritated by the change of topic which he'd caused, "was a ditz who couldn't make up her mind which guy she liked more." "Helen was taken by force," her boyfriend said, after a moment. "Maybe, maybe, I wasn't there at the time," the commercial-man said dismissively. "But it's a better *story* when..." "As usual, my answer's no, dude." *** "Okay," Julie said. "So he reads Greek myth." "He was there." "Jesus wasn't *born* at the time of the Trojan war, Helen!" Helen crossed her arms. "Then he was watching from Heaven." "Look..." "And how about when those men in black showed up...? And said that they'd been looking for him for a long time? And that someone UPSTAIRS wanted to have a word with him?" "There are many places upstairs that aren't heaven, Helen." "Not when you live on the top floor!" Julie sighed and looked back at the so-called Jesus Christ. He was pocketing the other guy's phone-number and leaning down for a kiss. She made a face. "Jesus makes out with other men?" "Jesus loves everybody!" Helen chirped. Julie could only roll her eyes. "Well, Jesus is coming over." He slung an arm over each of them when he was close enough, smiling a truly infectious smile. "Hey, you weren't fighting, were you?" "No way," Helen said. "Just talking religion, E." "Oh man," Eli said. "I make it a point to never do that. Helen-hon, mind if we stop by the hospital on the way home? There's a few people I was hoping to see..." Helen mouthed 'healing the sick' at Julie, then beamed brightly at her boyfriend. "Sure thing, E. See you around, Julie!" She waved as they headed out the door, her boyfriend humming to himself. Julie stared after them. "Jesus Christ," she muttered after a moment. She stared down at her drink. "Next thing I know, she'll be saying her mother's actually Lilith or something." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:12:56 -0600 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... Janet Anderson writes: > That's *good.* > > Janet Anderson > I agree, this was impressive. I approve. --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:14:04 -0600 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> One Rave, no Rant... Rolland Therrien writes: > Man, I'm on a roll today. ^^ Here's a new Demoness I'm sure you'll love. > > Hushai > > Lillim of the Media > > Demon of the Rave Heh. While personally I would tag her Word as the domain of Hardcore, the rationale and reasoning is well done. I like her! --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 14:16:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: RE: IN> The Angel of Snipers - --- "Wajenberg, Earl" wrote: > I dunno. A meaningless rampage seems very Furfurry to > me. But with the ransom demand it's not really meaningless. And a sniper taking out targets selectively isn't nearly as hardcore as random spraying on full auto. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"There are two kinds of selfishness: the kind that says, 'I must do what will make me happy,' and the kind that says, 'You must do what will make me happy.' The first is good, the second is bad." - -- Kenton E. Sinner

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:23:07 -0400 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> [fiction] "My Boyfriend, Jesus Christ" At 05:11 PM 10/23/2002 -0700, you wrote: >"There are many places upstairs that aren't heaven, Helen." *snicker* I liked this. :) But you've been hanging out with Casca, haven't you? - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 14:20:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... Another nice job. I would've put the Word of Assassins under War, but Kenshiel fits perfectly with the Sword. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"There are two kinds of selfishness: the kind that says, 'I must do what will make me happy,' and the kind that says, 'You must do what will make me happy.' The first is good, the second is bad." - -- Kenton E. Sinner

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Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"There are two kinds of selfishness: the kind that says, 'I must do what will make me happy,' and the kind that says, 'You must do what will make me happy.' The first is good, the second is bad." - -- Kenton E. Sinner

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:26:32 -0600 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... Cameron McCurry writes: > It's an interesting idea, but I only have two minor quibbles. > > 1. I doubt that Laurence would sponsor one of his angels for the Word of > Assassins. It just goes against his approach to combat. True, but it was Dominic he went for the Word under. And it's the Assassin, not Assassins. And like theives, even killers can have honor. Nothing is said in his writeup that you have to face the foe head on and be honorable. Laurence may be naive at times, but his Servitors don't have to be. > > 2. I wouldn't think that either Dominic or Laurence or even other Malakim > would tolerate a Virtue with Discord. Why not? If he's repenting for a sin, there's no reason why it wouldn't be Just to let him keep it as a reminder of his errors, and so that he may work hard to truly clean himself. Better than him being Outcast. --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:26:26 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> [fiction] "My Boyfriend, Jesus Christ" > >My Boyfriend, Jesus Christ - by Harukami Nice. I know some who would be shocked and offended and that just makes this all the more humorous. Heh. Josh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 14:29:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> [fiction] "My Boyfriend, Jesus Christ" - --- Harukami wrote: > "Jesus Christ," she muttered after a moment. She > stared down at her drink. "Next thing I know, she'll be > saying her mother's actually Lilith or something." BWAHAHAHAHA! Priceless, that line. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"There are two kinds of selfishness: the kind that says, 'I must do what will make me happy,' and the kind that says, 'You must do what will make me happy.' The first is good, the second is bad." - -- Kenton E. Sinner

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 14:36:30 -0700 From: " Cameron McCurry" Subject: Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:26:32 -0600 sirea@softhome.net said unto us: >>True, but it was Dominic he went for the Word under. Fair enough, but Assassination usually isn't something that you associate with judgment. *Execution*, yes, but Dominic already has an executioner. >>Why not? Malakim tend to treat Discord as an extreme shame. And with how strictly they police themselves, it would be difficult for him to be viewed as anything other than a paraiah or potential Outcast by his Choirmates. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:39:07 -0600 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> [fiction] =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22My?= Boyfriend, Jesus =?iso-8859-1?Q?Christ=22?= > "Maybe, maybe, I wasn't there at the time," the commercial-man said > dismissively. "But it's a better *story* when..." > > "As usual, my answer's no, dude." *sneeerk* This was so good ^_^ --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:45:56 -0600 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... >>>Why not? > > Malakim tend to treat Discord as an extreme shame. And with how strictly they > police themselves, it would be difficult for him to be viewed as anything > other than a paraiah or potential Outcast by his Choirmates. So be it. With a Word like the Assassin, no one said his work was going to be looked upon favorably. Not ever Discordant Malak has to be instantly cleaned. Like it was said, he wants to earn it again. It doesn't seem that he cares for the scorn of his fellow choirmates, especially since he's allowing Dominic to monitor his every move. --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:45:51 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... >>>Why not? > >Malakim tend to treat Discord as an extreme shame. And with how strictly they >police themselves, it would be difficult for him to be viewed as anything >other than a paraiah or potential Outcast by his Choirmates. Never said he was anything other. Watchful eye of Dominic and all that. He knows that he can fail, he has been shown it. He retains the scars of it in order to always remember his failings. He is under Dominic because he has chosen to serve under Judgment (literal/metaphorical). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:50:28 -0600 From: "Rampaging Crypto-Man" Subject: Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... > "Never allow my opponent to use an innocent as a shield." I wonder how this oath would work. If he points a gun at someone and they grab a hostage, does he generate dissonance? If he points a gun at someone and they grab a hostage and he doesn't shoot as a result, does he generate dissonance? No wonder he has discord. :-) Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:52:56 -0600 From: "Rampaging Crypto-Man" Subject: Re: IN> [fiction] "My Boyfriend, Jesus Christ" > "Oh man," Eli said. "I make it a point to never do that. Helen-hon, mind > if we stop by the hospital on the way home? There's a few people I was > hoping to see..." Nice, very nice. It fits my image of Eli perfectly. I wish I had something to add, but I got nothin'. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:00:08 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: RE: IN> Archangel's sigils: part 2 - Janus to Michael >--- "Wajenberg, Earl" wrote: >> Not white and gold? Or sky-blue and gold? > > Black and gold makes perfect sense. Not only is the >combination aesthetically pleasing (an advertising benefit >which the AA of Trade would surely understand), but the >association with profit -- "in the black" -- is a trick >that Marc would never miss. > >===== >

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

He might also be following an old rule of heraldry (which still make sense today in terms of graphic design): not to use "both metals" in a device. White would have been displayed as argent, or silver; yellow or gold would have been the other metal. The heraldic rule not to use both was intended to increase visibility, as it would be somewhat difficult to distinguish the two metals in a single banner from a distance. In modern terms of graphic design, white and yellow or white and gold would tend to blend in to each other, creating a very soft-lined effect. Take a white sheet of paper and draw over it with yellow marker or yellow crayon to see what I mean. Black and gold stand out from each other and catch the eye, an advertising plus. Blue and gold... well, black and gold just takes that further. IN content, IN content... buggered if I can come up with any. Did you know that heralds assigned devices to saints, archangels, and demons? Lucifer's was three gold frogs on a red background with a horizontal gold bar between them (two above, three below), according to a site I found with the listing. The heraldic description is "Gules, a fess or, between three frogs proper." William ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:10:27 -0600 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> Archangel's sigils: part 2 - Janus to Michael Blue and gold... well, black and gold just takes that > further. Just what I was thinking. It catches the eye a lot better, and it's easy to look at. Besides, Gold and White is for Laurence :D > > IN content, IN content... buggered if I can come up with any. Did you know > that heralds assigned devices to saints, archangels, and demons? Lucifer's > was three gold frogs on a red background with a horizontal gold bar between > them (two above, three below), according to a site I found with the > listing. The heraldic description is "Gules, a fess or, between three > frogs proper." What? My, I believe Luifer would be insulted. Or at least amused. something so simple and silly sounding (to me at least) I'm not a big fan of medival style art anyway... --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:25:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Burzelic Subject: IN> Questions, confusions, and requests I've been gearing up to start an IN game and need some more info. Has anyone done cybernetics? There really aren't rules for this kind of thing. At first they would just be random equipment, but the larger a part of the world they became the more important they would be. At least larger pieces. For example a replacement arm. But what would it take to run them and make them and all the fiddly-bits, like cybernetics slowly take away your "humanity". So I was thinking, to go with the arm example. To get a cyber-arm would be a combo of the crippled disad/discord at 4. The arm itself costs those four points. But to run it, it takes energy, energy found in the body. It runs off of Essence, very little, but essence none the less. It requires its cost divided by 10 per day. So a standard human has five forces=five Essence=50 of these cyber points. So one bionic arm will do very little as they take up their needed essence(rounded up) at noon every day.* Broken down, it's: cyber-part cost:disad, body, mind, or soul hits, forces, something that is cut from the being. effect: it's an arm, super eyes, special organ, what- have-you. Essence/drain: how much essence the thing requires. This is all off the cuff. I will come up with something more concrete and Artifact-like soon if nobody else has something good already. - ----- Second, that whole word reach thing again. I wasn't able to purchase, but I did skim the word section in, the GMG. What I found only confounded me more. I understand that the cola Coke is not the cocaine slang Coke, is not the mineral-goodness Coke but my example of Ether isn't the same. Ether the ancient concept of the stuff of the celestial heavens (as in space-air) is extended to etheric vapors found in the air became a chemically thinger when science discovered it, became the base of the drug. (If this expansion doesn't work please show me how it doesn't because compared to Stone it feels really, really similar.) Now I realize IMC I can do what I want, but I really want to obey canon on this one. - ----- Third, there was a demon of "the upside-down (or right-side up, I forget) cross in footnotes thing" that I thought I had saved but apparently did not. Could somone give me a copy of him if anyone remember what I'm talking about, I thought he'd make a great major player in my plans as I saw lots of potential in him. Jim __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:39:12 -0400 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> Questions, confusions, and requests At 05:25 PM 10/23/2002 -0700, you wrote: >This is all off the cuff. I will come up with >something more concrete and Artifact-like soon if >nobody else has something good already. I recall that it's been done - unless I'm remembering the toying around in my head that I've done myself - but I'll be damned if I can remember where. You might want to check out Phil Moyer's IN 2070 setting, if nothing else: http://www.jurai.net/~pmoyer/IN2070/ is the last link I have, although I'm not 100% sure it still works. >Now I realize IMC I can do what I want, but I really >want to obey canon on this one. I don't recall the origins of ether-the-drug, but that doesn't seem like too horrible a case of Word expansion. I'd allow it. >Third, there was a demon of "the upside-down (or >right-side up, I forget) cross in footnotes thing" >that I thought I had saved but apparently did not. That would be Andracho, my Demon of Obeli. I've already forwarded him along. (By the way, the "cross in footnotes" is a "dagger", if you want to get jargony but don't feel like using Latin. ;) - -EDG ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2831 ********************************