in_nomine-digest Friday, October 25 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2833 In this digest: Re: IN> Collateral Damage (short fiction) RE: IN> Collateral Damage (short fiction) Re: IN> Archangels sigils: part 3 - Novalis to Zadkiel Re: IN> The Angel of Snipers Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... Re: IN> The Remnant of the INcyclopedia.... Re: IN> Collateral Damage (short fiction) Re: IN> [fiction] "My Boyfriend, Jesus Christ" Re: IN> Questions, confusions, and requests Re: IN> [fiction] Re: IN> Archangel's sigils: part 2 - Janus to Michael Re: IN> The Angel of Snipers Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... Re: IN> The Remnant of the INcyclopedia.... Re: IN> Questions, confusions, and requests Re: IN> Questions, confusions, and requests Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... Re: IN> Collateral Damage (short fiction) RE: IN> Archangel's sigils: part 2 - Janus to Michael Re: IN> [fiction] "My Boyfriend, Jesus Christ" Re: IN> [fiction] "My Boyfriend, Jesus Christ" IN> Questions, confusions, and requests IN> The Angel of Snipers IN> Who is faster, Janus or Gabriel? Re: IN> Who is faster, Janus or Gabriel? Re: IN> Who is faster, Janus or Gabriel? Re: IN> Questions, confusions, and requests Re: IN> Who is faster, Janus or Gabriel? Re: IN> Who is faster, Janus or Gabriel? Re: IN> Who is faster, Janus or Gabriel? Re: IN> Who is faster, Janus or Gabriel? IN> [Fiction] Professional Courtesy (part 1) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:28:08 +0800 From: "Jeffery Watkins" Subject: Re: IN> Collateral Damage (short fiction) > He cut himself off, and Alcron started the van up and began to drive off, > as a horde of dark-winged warriors, invisible to the naked eye, descended > upon the form. "As little collateral damage as possible." > Wow. Apart from the situation going on here, that was a very well done piece. I like how I was kept guessing through out the work, though the hints of which side were there for the more perceptive of your readers to get. Also the idea of driving a demon to the celestial form then attacking seemed innovative. At least to me and it gives me another way to deal with similar situations in game. Jeff =) Part of my insanity manifest at JCT, where In Nomine meets science fiction in the far future http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jctrinityRPG - -- __________________________________________________________ Download the FREE Opera browser at www.opera.com/download/ Free OperaMail at http://www.operamail.com/ Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 10:34:05 -0400 From: "Wajenberg, Earl" Subject: RE: IN> Collateral Damage (short fiction) Two questions: Wouldn't a demon with its vessel fatally shot go immediately to Trauma, not giving the Malakim any target? Would shooting a demon create Disturbance? Which raises the further question: Was the target a demon? The remark "He is a long-term victim, and I can tell that it is still there," makes me think the target was a human ridden by a Shedite. Hm. THAT *would* cause Disturbance, and might force the demon into Celestial form rather than Trauma. Have I figured it out? Earl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:49:00 +0800 From: "Jeffery Watkins" Subject: Re: IN> Archangels sigils: part 3 - Novalis to Zadkiel These are awesome! It almost seems you got better as you went along. > -Novalis- > Celestial Form: An intricate and beautiful > representation of a rose, with a twisting silver stem, > quartz thorns, and petals of pink coral from Oannes > grotto. The whole thing is constructed of infinitely > delicate parts, and is a perfect example of micro > engineering. Tiny hinges and cogs allow the stem to > bend and flex in a lifelike manner, and the flower > itself opens and closes with the light. A gift from > Eli upon her nomination to archangelhood, this serene > and elegant sigil carries with it a subtle, yet > glorious scent which instills calm, peace, and a > feeling of intense, divine, love in all who breathe it > in > The level of detail was very intricate and it almost makes one just want the sigil used instead of having the Archangel show up...almost. > -Oannes- > The sigil itself was observed to dissipate into steam > upon Oannes death at the hands of Belial, but the > gemstone remains, and glimmers still. His mourning > servitors placed it on a coral plinth in his grotto, > at the archangel’s favorite thinking spot. It has > remained there ever since, no-one daring to disturb > this poignant memorial to one of the lost. > Simply beautiful. The memorial is something I HAVE to make sure the angelic players encounter at least in the background. > > -Raphael- >One > young servitor once inquired what the last entry was, > and Yves told him, with a far away smile on his face, > that it read “I go now to do my duty before God with > joy in my heart. Do not grieve for me my friend.” > Some amongst Destiny’s service, mostly former > servitors of Knowledge, claim that it further reads > “for we shall meet again upon this road ere all is > done.” > Well, you brought out the sappiness in me with this one. I actually got a little teary eyed when I read it. Very very well done. > phew. done. now to switch my mind into Eeeeevil > (kitten) mode for the DPs... > > -FallenSeraph > *applauses, throught essence* Thank you very much for this! I am looking forward to your work for the DPs. Jeff =) Part of my insanity manifest at JCT, where In Nomine meets science fiction in the far future http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jctrinityRPG - -- __________________________________________________________ Download the FREE Opera browser at www.opera.com/download/ Free OperaMail at http://www.operamail.com/ Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:39:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Randy Finder Subject: Re: IN> The Angel of Snipers On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, EDG wrote: > At 10:03 PM 10/23/2002 -0400, Randy Finder wrote: > > >I'd have thought so as well, if it wasn't with the interaction with the > >news conferences and such. Several times his MO has changed to prove out a > >point based on what a news conference said. A Belethite would largely > >ignore what the news conferences said... > > On the other hand, I also take issue with this. The Demon Princess of > Nightmares might be a Djinn, but that doesn't mean that all of her > Servitors are - and sometimes, it makes for better nightmares if the > hobgoblin who's after you takes what you say or do and uses it against you. How about an Habbalah of Nightmares IST The media. > > (Consider how Moose must feel: he can't say *anything* to the media for > fear that the sniper will be listening and will take action *just to prove > him wrong*.) Yup. That's what drives him nuts here. Even his news conferences have to be entirely scripted... > > >Besides no demon or servitor of Beleth would offer to quit for money. A > >demon or Servitor of Nybbas would consider making such a offer. > > Why not? Again, it makes for a better nightmare if nothing you do will > stop the hobgoblin, and we have no evidence that a) the sniper wrote the > ransom note, and b) even if he did, he isn't lying. There's no reason for > him not to accept the money and then keep killing people. Evidence for the Ransom not I think we do have. As for lying, Could this all be someone from Mammon? (who is of course a Balseraph) Randy > > -EDG > > - -- Leadership, Friendship and Service - Alpha Phi Omega ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 12:46:11 -0400 (EDT) From: jamoge@wm.edu Subject: Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... > > > Given the source this was shamelessly ripp- > err, creatively adapted from > > > :), being viewed as something of a pariah > might actually fit the character. > > > OK, for the benefit of those of us who > don't follow every Anime movie, would > > you please explain what this was taken from? > > Rurouni Kenshin: Tales of a Meiji Swordsman. > Short synopsis: during the Bakumatsu Civil War > that birthed the Meiji > Era, creating a form of democracy instead of the > rule of nobility > (correct me if I'm grossly inaccurate, japanese > history isn't one of my > subjects), Hey, why do you think I skipped it in Kenshiel's write- up? > "Hitokiri Battousai" (a direct translation would > be "swift-drawing > man-slayer" Hence Laurence's Ofanite choir attunement given to a Malakite. As for the rest- Well, for some reason it was released, at least at first in the U.S. as Samurai X ::shudder::. Don't know where they got that from, I guess the scar. It's inane. There is a series of four half/hour segments that make up the prequel to the TV show. Those segments are A: Beautiful, B: Heart wrenching and C: the only things of Kenshin I've seen. Hence, Kenshiel doesn't have the reverse blade yet. Maybe someday. I've also heard that there's a bit of humor and fun in the TV series, and much less death, seeing as Kenshin has gone from homicidal badass to a Vash-like badass (So good and so emotionally scarred that he refuses to kill anyone again). If this is so, it's a complete reversal of the OAV (the four segments) in which there is no humor, a wee bit of romance, and a whooooooole lot of crying (but mostly of the audience). I'm just hoping that Kenshiel never has to take on that most dreaded of Discords which plague angelic and demonic IN characters adapted from anime- chibi. ::shudder:: ~_o' Josh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:47:53 -0700 From: "Steven Feldon" Subject: Re: IN> The Remnant of the INcyclopedia.... >Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:44:59 -0400 >From: Whistling in the Dark >Subject: IN> The Remnant of the INcyclopedia.... > >Just to let you know, the good people at the Internet Wayback Machine >(http://web.archive.org) have snagged, among other things, several >versions of the late, lamented INcyclopedia. While I think there was >one revision following the most current one they have (it seems to me >some of the Superiors celestials were logged into the system at one >point), this at least gets us current to October of the year 2000. > >The archive is sometimes slow -- perhaps this can be rescued and put up >elsewhere? I'm not sure what copyright restrictions might apply. Still, >if someone were to pick the grand work up, this at the least would take >care of the earlier works.... > >The URL for the most recent archive of the INcyclopedia is >http://web.archive.org/web/20011005180322/http://www.incyclopedia.org/ >index.html -- have fun! I'm still alive, and I just mailed Sage to see about why the hosting for the Incyclopedia has gone away again. I still own the domain and it's still supposedly pointing at sjgames.com. And I'm talking to a person on this list who's expressed an interest in taking over, and I'll assist in moving the data over to their control if this comes through. Since I don't have my back-up disk here, I don't know exactly what the last date of update was, but I'm pretty certain that was close to it. However, I do have a backup of the last bit of data entry that was done. While I don't feel like we can put up mirrors all over without talking to SJG about having more than one website where we once had one, I can and will send zip files with all the data to a) one person who's willing to put it up on their site and b) anyone who wants it for their own use. I'm sorry I neglected it for so long. steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 12:57:44 -0400 (EDT) From: jamoge@wm.edu Subject: Re: IN> Collateral Damage (short fiction) ...eeeeh. Short. Not at all sweet. But nicely done. Rather Darkish, but would be well placed in such a campaign. Josh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 17:59:04 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Seraph=20Descending?= Subject: Re: IN> [fiction] "My Boyfriend, Jesus Christ" Well, now i know what all the fuss was about... Very well done, Harukami! I think this Eli sits perfectly with the one Dominic is worried about. Bumming round earth, wantonly using his powers and flaunting the dictates of the Seraphim Council on keeping the War hidden. No wonder old Pokerspine want's him hauled heavenwards for questioning. Possibly the most canon Eli we've had for a while, and thats pretty cool. Better than an IMC re-invetnion any day. I like. A lot. Have some Essence. *bing!* - -Fallenseraph __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 10:39:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Questions, confusions, and requests - --- Jim Burzelic wrote: > Has anyone done cybernetics? Not to my knowledge. > what would it take to run them and make them > and all the fiddly-bits, like cybernetics slowly take > away your "humanity". One way is to reduce the subject's Essence capacity according to how much organic matter is replaced. For example, a limb might reduce Essence capacity by one (which means that full conversion borgs won't be able to hold Essence at all). This is a really basic idea that will certainly need tweaking. However you do it, Vessels should not be able to accomodate cyberware or bioware (Vapulans being the possible exception -- the ability to take on cyberweapons with no penalty even makes a good Calabite of Technology Attunement). =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"There are two kinds of selfishness: the kind that says, 'I must do what will make me happy,' and the kind that says, 'You must do what will make me happy.' The first is good, the second is bad." - -- Kenton E. Sinner

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 03:27:20 +0800 From: "Jeffery Watkins" Subject: Re: IN> [fiction] > Well, now i know what all the fuss was about... > > > -Fallenseraph There was fuss? I thought I was the only one to say something about it? *shrugs* Oh well. Jeff - -- __________________________________________________________ Download the FREE Opera browser at www.opera.com/download/ Free OperaMail at http://www.operamail.com/ Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:42:38 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Archangel's sigils: part 2 - Janus to Michael At 10:58 AM +0100 10/23/02, Seraph Descending wrote: >Corporeal form: As befits Heaven’s stockbroker, in >corporeal form the sigil appears as a plain credit >card in black and gold. (Note -- please remove smartquotes, aka curly quotes, from stuff before posting. It's 8bit, and what some people see as a backwards `, I see as a little rectangle. O:p ] The IOU colors, IIRC, are Black and Gold... - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:00:38 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> The Angel of Snipers At 7:08 AM -0400 10/24/02, EDG wrote: >(Consider how Moose must feel: he can't say *anything* to the media for >fear that the sniper will be listening and will take action *just to prove >him wrong*.) Perhaps this is his own, personal nightmare... - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:57:57 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... At 9:15 PM -0400 10/23/02, Josh Moger wrote: >I'm surprised that no one's commented on the anime I wholeheartedly adapted >Kenshiel from. I've been busy. *snort* - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:14:20 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> The Remnant of the INcyclopedia.... On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 12:47 PM, Steven Feldon wrote: > I'm still alive, and I just mailed Sage to see about why the hosting > for > the Incyclopedia has gone away again. I still own the domain and it's > still supposedly pointing at sjgames.com. And I'm talking to a person > on this list who's expressed an interest in taking over, and I'll > assist > in moving the data over to their control if this comes through. > Hey Steve! None of that was a knock on you in the least. We (and by we I mean 'I') all thought you AWOL, off in the wilds of having a real life. In any case, good to have you here. - -- Eric A. Burns Freelance Writer and Textual Whore http://www.annotations.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 10:48:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Questions, confusions, and requests - --- Jim Burzelic wrote: > Well, a cyber-surgeon has studied VERY hard to do what > he does and would probably have a sixth force because > of it Not necessarily. All doctors study very hard (and that's before the internship and residency), but IN canon says nothing about having six Forces being more common among medical school graduates than it is among the general population. Lots of professions go through trials that David would approve of in the course of "paying their dues," yet the vast majority of Humans only have five Forces. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"There are two kinds of selfishness: the kind that says, 'I must do what will make me happy,' and the kind that says, 'You must do what will make me happy.' The first is good, the second is bad." - -- Kenton E. Sinner

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 17:19:26 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Questions, confusions, and requests At 10:48 AM -0700 10/24/02, Michael Walton wrote: >--- Jim Burzelic wrote: >> Well, a cyber-surgeon has studied VERY hard to do what >> he does and would probably have a sixth force because >> of it > > Not necessarily. All doctors study very hard [...] > yet the vast majority of Humans only have five Forces. Indeed. It is possible that advanced _characteristics_ might be fairly common in stressful situations -- you can have up to 3 of them divided between the characteristics in a realm before you have to worry about Forces -- but Forces are, typicaly, 5. However, if you have the Corporeal Player's Guide (you do, right? O;> ), you know that the GM can allow the purchase of "Mastery" of a skill, which is meant to reflect the intense study and likelihood of success the human would possess, mimicking the real world a little better. - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 17:32:39 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... >Iai (Perception; cannot default; pre-requisite LW (Katana or Reverse Katana)) Hmm -- it's interesting that you use the skill as a ritualized contest. I was under the impression that it was an actual fighting skill like the gunslinger's quickdraw -- if you strike the first blow hard enough, you don't need to worry about the second. In the movie "Seven Samurai," for example, a character is seen practicing this skill, shuffling around a bit, then quickdrawing in various directions. Perhaps it exist(-ed, -s?) in -do and -jutsu forms? I would have called the skill thus: Iai (Agility; cannot default; prerequisite LW (Sword)) The skill of fast-drawing a sword; primarily practiced with katana, but theoretically applicable to any scabbarded blade. (Knives? That's stretching it, but maybe.) At the beginning of any round of melee combat(pre-empted by supernatural advantages but simultaneously with natural speed boosts), a practitioner of this skill with a scabbarded weapon can roll against his Iai skill to draw his blade, attack an opponent (normal attack roll), and re-ready his blade before proceeding with the round. Success with a CD of 6, or a favorable Intervention, means no defense was possible. Failure with CD 6, or unfavorable Intervention, means the user's form is so bad his weapon is dropped or otherwise unready all round. Knowledge of this skill can also be used in a formalized sport or a ritual competition. William ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 14:45:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Inspired by a recent post... - --- "William J. Keith" wrote: > Hmm -- it's interesting that you use the skill as a > ritualized contest. I > was under the impression that it was an actual fighting > skill like the > gunslinger's quickdraw -- if you strike the first blow > hard enough, you > don't need to worry about the second. The example you gave also includes an Iai duel. Two samurai face off in a ritualized contest (with some, but not full contact). When it's over, one claims that it was a tie. The master swordsman points out that he won. The actual duel that follows ends with the master swordsman killing the upstart. ObIN: I can certainly see Laurence encouraging the formation of ancient dueling codes as a way to prevent honorable warriors from needlessly killing each other and/or innocent bystanders. Iai in Japan and the European custom of letting the challenged party choose the weapons may both have been Larry's doing. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"There are two kinds of selfishness: the kind that says, 'I must do what will make me happy,' and the kind that says, 'You must do what will make me happy.' The first is good, the second is bad." - -- Kenton E. Sinner

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Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"There are two kinds of selfishness: the kind that says, 'I must do what will make me happy,' and the kind that says, 'You must do what will make me happy.' The first is good, the second is bad." - -- Kenton E. Sinner

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:26:21 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: RE: IN> Archangel's sigils: part 2 - Janus to Michael >Interesting. I expect the three frogs come from the book of Revelation >16:13: > >"Then I saw three unclean spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of >the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and ou of the mouth >of the false prophet." Yes, that's the reasoning the sites I've seen it on give. >I would be interested to read any other descriptions for IN beings that you >might have. Surely Michael and Gabriel were given devices? How about >Raphael and Uriel? > >Earl Unfortunately, I remembered that one from a long-ago reading of a book my brother brought home for school[1]. I don't know what captivated me about it, but I just sat down and read straight through. I had never had much of an interest in heraldry before, but I spent hours at a time going through that book. The good news is, I've found a few sites on the web[2,3,4,5] that have some additional arms. Site [5] is all about attributed arms, though it uses English terms for colors, placements and such. I went through [4], the most authoritative-seeming, looking for the word "attributed"; these arms were attributed by the heralds to their purported holders, who are not recorded to have objected. ;^) Here are some of those I've found -- Googling around for attributed arms or devices might get some more. God: Gules, a pall within and conjoined to an orle, the intersections surmounted by four roundels 2, 1, and 1, all or (Latin script omitted). Apparently also known as "The Arms of the Faith," with a picture given at [3] (without the blazon, i.e. the description; also a version of some supposed arms of Jesus Christ, and a picture of Lucifer's arms.) Argent, a ragged cross pierced on the upper three arms by as many nails, between in base two flagellae palewise handles downwards, over all a sponge on the end of a long reed in bend sinster surmounted by a spear in bend, the point enfiled by a crown of thorns, all proper. Another complicated device assigned to Jesus; any good heraldry site will allow you to reconstruct the picture from the technical words, at least mostly. Cross of Saint George (England) (Badge: Mundane, Dec 1998) Argent, a cross gules. The famous cross worn by English Crusaders; also attributed to the Archangel Michael. Azure, a harp Or. Attributed to the Psalmist, King David. Lozengy argent and gules, a dragon sable. Attributed to Joshua. Or, three ravens wings elevated and addorsed proper. Attributed to Judas Maccabeus. St. Gabriel: a blue shield with a spear and a shield with the Ave Maria monogram St. Raphael: A blue shield with a pilgrim's wallet and a staff St. Peter: keys; inverted cross with/without keys; patriarchal cross and keys; a cock; church on a rock; fetters with/without keys The second entry in that last one's interesting to me. Perhaps the upside-down cross would have been referred to as a "St. Peter's Cross" long before modern-day Satanists attempted to co-opt it for their own purposes. William [1] Friar, Stephen, ed. _Dictionary of Heraldry, A_. Copyright 1987. [2] http://adrianempire.org/heraldry/armorial/mundane.html [3] http://www.heraldryunlimited.com/world/attributed/religious_arms.htm [4] http://www.pvv.ntnu.no/~bcd/rolemaster/novi/her-list.txt [5] http://www.geocities.com/malderman.geo/att.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:34:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Fade the Cat Subject: Re: IN> [fiction] "My Boyfriend, Jesus Christ" >> "Maybe, maybe, I wasn't there at the time," the commercial-man said >> dismissively. "But it's a better *story* when..." >> >> "As usual, my answer's no, dude." > >*sneeerk* This was so good ^_^ ...once again, I find everyone else amused at an email I never got. Wah! Could someone send me a copy of the original fiction bit that apparently slipped through the cracks of my email address? - --Fade the Cat _____________________________________________________________ Sluggy.Net: The Sluggy Freelance Community! _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you@yourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:44:42 -0700 From: Harukami Subject: Re: IN> [fiction] "My Boyfriend, Jesus Christ" >...once again, I find everyone else amused at an email I never got. Wah! Could someone send me a copy of the original fiction bit that apparently slipped through the cracks of my email address? No problem, I'll send it right over. ^_~ Thanks to everyone who's commented! I'm VERY fond of Eli, as you can tell (and equally fun of Really Bad Puns) but I'm more than willing to acknowledge that he's got *issues* - and that his reasons for leaving just might not be good enough. Hugs to all, Harukami * Ambrosius is wondering why he couldn't have been assigned with some fanatical Habbalite and a sexy Impudite. * Jesse is sexy! And reasonably close to Impudite... * Zha'an is seeeeeeeexy............... [drips all over floor] - -The Balseraph, the Lilim, and the Shedite from DGC! (Don't Get Caught!) DGC! logs can be found at: http://haru_in.tripod.com/ Along with logs for Pieces of a Glass Heart (angelic campaign), art, and fiction. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:58:46 -0400 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> Questions, confusions, and requests > Has anyone done cybernetics? I like Moe's Kittens the best. > With too many implants, they lack Essence entirely, and > must live their life without that vital energy. Oooh! Cyberpsychosis! And just how long _can_ a Player go with out Essence before becoming an NPC? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:58:47 -0400 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> The Angel of Snipers > Again, it makes for a better nightmare if nothing you do will > stop the hobgoblin True. There are kids who are in therapy, still having nightmares about 9/11. Which might make a very disturbing dreamscape. *This was more disturbing than I expected. And I'm a cranky bastard.* A Soldier of Heaven, perhaps IST Dreams, finds herself standing on the roof of a skyscraper. Suddenly someone points at something behind her and screams, "OhmyGOD! OhmyGOD! OhmyGOD!" Turning around she sees Tower One collapse. And she's on Tower Two. *Say to yourself, "It's only a dream."* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 21:16:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Randy Finder Subject: IN> Who is faster, Janus or Gabriel? Who is the fastest entity in Heaven (and thus presumably in the INiverse)? Other than possibly the creation Choir angel for the Ofanites, I can't imagine anyone's creations being faster, so who wins the race? Randy - -- Leadership, Friendship and Service - Alpha Phi Omega ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:24:46 +0800 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> Who is faster, Janus or Gabriel? I seem to remember someone named Sandalphon, an Ofanite of Fire, who was said to be "the fastest entity in Heaven." I think this was in Superiors 3, but I don't have it here. Janet Anderson - -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 21:31:50 -0400 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Who is faster, Janus or Gabriel? >Who is the fastest entity in Heaven (and thus presumably in the INiverse)? >Other than possibly the creation Choir angel for the Ofanites, I can't >imagine anyone's creations being faster, so who wins the race? > >Randy > ::eyes narrowing in concentration:: Hmm... Janus is the embodiment of the Wind... But- Gabriel was probably the first Ofanite. And the literal existence of Fire. And Fire is energy, so she's could theoretically move at the the square of the speed of light. But- Janus might be able to lay claim on the solar winds- and there might not be a limit to the speed they can grow to in a vaccuum. But- Gabriel was inspiration before the Fall, so she could possibly move at the speed of thought. Hmm... Eh, I'm going to lay my money on Gabriel. Or she'd hurt me. Josh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:23:15 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> Questions, confusions, and requests >> Has anyone done cybernetics? > >I like Moe's Kittens the best. > >> With too many implants, they lack Essence entirely, and >> must live their life without that vital energy. > >Oooh! Cyberpsychosis! And just how long _can_ a Player go with out Essence >before becoming an NPC? Indefinitely, which is the damnable part. You live, sort of. You just find it harder to get something really awe-inspiring done, and luck seems to be with you less often than with others. William ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 23:28:38 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Who is faster, Janus or Gabriel? On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 09:24 PM, Janet Anderson wrote: > I seem to remember someone named Sandalphon, an Ofanite of Fire, who > was said to be "the fastest entity in Heaven." I think this was in > Superiors 3, but I don't have it here. > The APG, actually. It triggered for me, because I used Sandalphon's name elsewhere, when I did my writeup of the Shekinah last year. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 02:33:08 -0600 From: ben@zianet.com Subject: Re: IN> Who is faster, Janus or Gabriel? >> I seem to remember someone named Sandalphon, an Ofanite of Fire, who was >> said to be "the fastest entity in Heaven." I think this was in Superiors >> 3, but I don't have it here. I would say that Gabriel is a faster entity than Janus. Never minding that Fire can be interpreted as swifter than Wind, Gabriel is older and far more passionate than Janus ever could be. As for the fastest being in Heaven, that would be Michael, no matter what the APG says. :-) Sure, if they're just out doing things, Gabriel or Janus might be faster -- but if Michael and Gabriel raced, Michael would win. If Michael and Janus raced, Michael would win. It's just what he does. He is the embodiment of competition and he never loses except when he chooses to lose. Ben "You know you're gonna live through the rain, lord, we've got to keep the faith. Don't you know it's never too late, right now we've got to keep the faith." -- Bon Jovi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 05:33:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Who is faster, Janus or Gabriel? - --- Randy Finder wrote: > Who is the fastest entity in Heaven (and thus presumably > in the INiverse)? I believe that canon actually names that entity as Sandalphon, but I have no books with me at the moment. =====

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__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 8:46:3 -0400 From: "Cameron McCurry" Subject: Re: IN> Who is faster, Janus or Gabriel? Sandalphon APG pg. 34 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 10:45:26 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> [Fiction] Professional Courtesy (part 1) Just a little bit of fanfic. It derives from something, so I can hardly horde it to myself on the premise that it might, someday, be used with a fiction license. I'm typing chunks of it into Eudora, sans spellchecker, sans second draft. Cope. O:> This chunk is about 6K, so I can do 4K more on it today. O:> ======== It was a darkly elegant office, with sleek furnishings. Incense hung heavy in the air, hazing the ceiling. Behind the blood-black desk, a Lilim sat, her tidy business suit walking the dagger's edge of clashing with her more archaic surroundings. Betharan perched alertly on the edge of her chair, trying not to sneeze from her sister's perfume during the briefing, or rub her eyes. At her feet crouched her Djinn partner, Tebah. Finally, the elder Gamester glanced up and deigned to notice that the pair she'd waved to sit in front of her desk were, indeed, still there and not gone off wandering or tapping on the walls to look for secret passages. (It had been a thought, mind.) She tapped the papers together, that she'd been reading, with a soft rustle that suggested things like executions, blackmail, and murder in the night. Betharan smothered another sneeze and blinked in what she hoped was an expression of alertness. After a moment, the other Lilim came to an apparent decision and cut to the chase. No reason to play word-games with such a disowned sister and Prince's pet as Betharan was, after all. "The target is a Balseraph of Kronos, accused of seeking to join Heaven. This folder contains his last known wherabouts, and the proper requisition forms for your equipment." She paused, but Betharan was too busy stepping discreetly on her own toes (to avoid rubbing her eyes) to ask any questions. With a little moue of distaste at having to give such a blunt briefing, the Demon of Intrigue continued, "He appears to have decided that being a Balakite is not to his liking, and he wishes to become a Virtue in truth." That merited a short eye-roll as a response, and Betharan did so, but declined to snort. That would have required breathing, after all (or at least the celestal equivalent). "We're to stop him from contacting angels, then, milady?" "No, no, I think they're annoyed with him enough as it is," her sister smirked, leaning back a little. "You see, he's obeying a old legend." Again, Betharan essayed attentiveness. Anything to get out of the room quickly with all the information she needed. "Legend, milady?" "Oh, haven't you heard?" Her sister busied herself with bringing out another cone of incense and lighting it. "The demon who kills a thousand Malakim...?" Betharan blinked, this time more from shock than to fight tears of allergy. "Someone _believes_ that pile of Shedite-dripping?" She coughed and added, apologetically, "Milady." "Apparently." The Demon of Intrigue smiled, apparently pleased to have startled an outburst from her disowned sibling. "I hear there's no few angels after him, too. They seem to object to having a rogue Virtue- hunter running around. You'll want to stay out of their way." "Yes, milady," Betharan agreed, since "Duh, milady" -- while slangily satisfying -- was not proper protocol to a Word-bound of the Game. "If you can talk him into returning to Hell, that's fine. But really, we'd prefer him vessel-dead. His Heart is under observation. Any questions?" "No, milady. I'm sure the paperwork is thorough on any details we'll need." (Anything to get out of the miasma of nose-itch...) "Very good. Dismissed." Betharan sprang up, bowed briefly, and turned. Perhaps proper court manners forbade turning your back on a superior -- she just wanted out of there. Besides, her back wasn't the usual sort, being bare to the world in the short, sepia-blood colored leotard she wore; scarred and marked, slashed, burned, lashed... With two wide strips down between her shoulderblades to proclaim her yo-yo status. Backstabbing would be redundant. Behind her, Tebah lumbered out, all bear's body and wolf's head, topped with tatty batwings, dainty rat-paws below, and dragging a scaled draconic tail. A mass of scar tissue marked where one of his ears had been, and trailed down around the eye on that side -- relics of a time when they'd been in less favor than usual with the most cunning Prince. He, too, didn't bother with protocol; Djinn were like that. Once outside the door, and three long-legged strides away, Betharan burst into a flurry of sneezes. Happily, her partner didn't comment. *** ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2833 ********************************