in_nomine-digest Tuesday, November 19 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2867 In this digest: IN> [ADMIN] FORBIDDEN THREAD! (Re: Music and In Nomie) Re: IN> Resonance Abuse IN> Music Threads... (Re: Dogma In Nomine Style) Re: IN> IN/SJG & INS/MV Re: IN> Releiver Nicknames Re: IN> Resonance Abuse Re: IN> Most difficult choir/sup combo? Re: IN> Mystique Re: IN> Some quick thoughts on unarmed combat Re: IN> Some quick thoughts on unarmed combat Re: IN> Bright Lilim Re: IN> Some quick thoughts on unarmed combat IN> Abusive Resonating (Re: Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2863) Re: IN> Mortals Re: IN> Reliever Nicknames IN> Snuff Films (RE: Releiver Nicknames) Re: IN> Resonance Abuse Re: IN> Snuff Films (RE: Releiver Nicknames) Re: IN> Resonance Abuse Re: IN> Snuff Films (RE: Releiver Nicknames) IN> Demon of Rape considerations... Re: IN> Demon of Rape considerations... Re: IN> Mortals Re: IN> Abusive Resonating (Re: Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2863) Re: IN> Resonance Abuse Re: IN> Resonance Abuse Re: IN> Resonance Abuse Re: IN> Snuff Films (RE: Releiver Nicknames) Re: IN> Bright Lilim Re: IN> Some quick thoughts on unarmed combat Re: IN> Snuff Films (RE: Releiver Nicknames) IN> New Attunement: Lust Re: IN> Mystique Re: IN> Resonance Abuse Re: IN> Resonance Abuse IN> New Discord IN> Resonance Abuse IN> Some quick thoughts on unarmed combat IN> [Successors] Serendipity, Mercurian Archangel of Light-part 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:47:40 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> [ADMIN] FORBIDDEN THREAD! (Re: Music and In Nomie) At 5:44 AM -0800 11/19/02, Michael Walton wrote: >--- Jarrod Carmichael wrote: >> Do people out there use music in their games? > > I've done it, but I'm not consistent with it. I have >enough to keep track of what with making up the plot as I go. This is a forbidden thread. Read the listrules. - --Beth, List Admin http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/listrules.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:38:13 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Resonance Abuse - --- Josh Moger wrote: > Am I wrong in believing that Malakim aren't demon > detectors? I mean, yes, > they can pick up Balseraphs on a 6, but other than that > Band on that check > digit, they only get readings of honor on pings. But if the most honorable thing that someone did recently was "torture someone to death," that's cause for further investigation at the very least. Malakim aren't _automatic_ demon detectors, but their Resonance is very helpful at narrowing the search parameters. Add Divine Fire Choir Attunements and it gets even more precise. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age 18." -- Albert Einstein

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:57:28 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> Music Threads... (Re: Dogma In Nomine Style) At 11:15 PM -0500 11/18/02, Brian Rogers wrote: >Speaking of which, the casting call and music threads were banned before I even joined, and I've been on this list at least a couple of years. A good chunk of the people here are new. >Maybe we could dust off those topics for, say, a week, then box them up again. I'd like to see what people think on those things. :) No. As I _believe_ the listrules say, if someone wants to have that sort of thread, they _CAN_ post a request for OFF-LIST submissions, and then assemble a web-page, and then post the URL to it. (With strong pointers to "DO NOT MAKE MORE SUGGESTIONS ON THE LIST; PRIVATE EMAIL ONLY.") Or they can go to yahoogroups.com and make a list devoted to it, or (*shudder*) inflict it on .innomine (the Pyramid Discussion Board), or any number of things. But it's not happening on this list. With all the above alternatives (especially the web-page; that would probably be a nice resource), there is no _reason_ for it to happen on this list, and every reason not to start on the slippery slope. - --Beth, List Admin http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/listrules.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:00:41 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> IN/SJG & INS/MV At 12:49 PM -0500 11/19/02, Josh Moger wrote: >I've looked at some of the sites dealing with INS/MV (and using Babelfish to >translate) and noticed the multiple Demon Princes/AA's that weren't brought >over to IN, and I was wondering why this was decided. Basically, SJ didn't want the IN/SJG version to be as over-run with Superiors as he believed the French version was. (Or so I surmise -- I got on board after this was decided.) Some of them showed up as minor Superiors; it is theoretically possible that others might get brought in that way, too. - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 02:45:39 +0800 From: "Jeffery Watkins" Subject: Re: IN> Releiver Nicknames > > Litheroy - "junior reporters" > > Great Scott! You mean to say that Jimmy Olson, Cub Reporter is really a > reliever of Litheroy? > Bwahahahahahaha! That was great! LOL! Jeff =) *still snickering* - -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:41:53 -0700 From: "Rampaging Crypto-Man" Subject: Re: IN> Resonance Abuse > Three most ignoble: kicked a dog out of my way, embezzled from my boss, > committed adultery This plays out the way I make the Malakite resonance work in my games. It says it's supposed to be sins and good deeds relative to the person's own sense of honor, and that's hard for people who see nothing wrong with murder, pillage, and betraying God. I use a cosmic code of honor instead, which seems more In Nomine to me... objective vs. subjective. Anyway, which is more dishonorable: serving Hell, or murder? In the grand scheme of things, there's a good argument for the first one, which makes it pretty easy for a Malakite to sense a demon. If you kill someone, you cause him pain and cause suffering for his family... but he'll either go to Heaven, reincarnate, or go to Hell if he's already damned. If you serve Hell, you're a coward for not redeeming and you're causing actual damage to the fabric of reality, which causes suffering for billions of humans. I'm not sure how I'd make that call as a GM. > -EDG Ben ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:17:11 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Most difficult choir/sup combo? At 4:56 PM -0800 11/15/02, Joey's mail wrote: >Mercurian of Animals--They tend to find them in situations which either way >will get them dissonance, since they can't let humans die They can _let_ humans die. They just can't lift a hand against humans themselves. Note the main book -- they know when to step aside and let the Malakim take over. >Impudite of Death--even though they're freed from dissonance, an Impudite >will still always love humans, Of course -- just like a human might love a good steak, even when it's on the hoof... At 5:24 AM +0000 11/16/02, Jarrod Carmichael wrote: >You can really get under a malki[te] of flowers['] skin by singing "Every rose >has a thorn" Nah. They're the ones who're already humming it under their breath... - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:21:04 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Mystique At 1:29 AM -0500 11/16/02, William J. Keith wrote: >http://earl.of.sandwich.net/In_Nomine/Mystique.txt Most keen! I do note that IN-proper doesn't have Fright Checks -- I'd suggest a Will or Intelligence roll, instead? Or, perhaps, a Perception roll in some cases, to simply let the experience "wash through" one and not go gibbery... - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 19:55 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) Subject: Re: IN> Some quick thoughts on unarmed combat In article <002701c28f8d$6dd60b20$a200a8c0@mshome.net>, lahoda@dlcwest.com (Wade Lahoda) wrote: > I tend to see fights between Celestials as very knock-down and drag out > - they can potentially absoarb tremendous amounts of damage and continue > to function unimpaired. I don't see In Nomine combat as being so much > twirling and leaping as lots of close in endurance tests. Think Bruce > Willis, not Bruce Lee. =) Celestials getting impaled on stuff, and > keeping on going. Celestials getting eyes gouged out and organs removed, > and keep on going. Shoving hands into wounds. Twisting blades in > peoples' guts. Crushing people's skulls. That type of brutal goings > ons. =) While all that certainly /can/ happen, I'm not happy with it being the /only/ way fights happen. There also needs to be a way for Cherubs who are looking after someone to forcibly stop them doing something without taking dissonance for hurting them! > Perhaps I'm just advocating accepting that realism will never be a > strength of IN's combat system. =) I have no problem with that at all! - --- John Dallman jgd@cix.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 19:55 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) Subject: Re: IN> Some quick thoughts on unarmed combat In article , arbiter_2050@hotmail.com (Jarrod Carmichael) wrote: > Skill should have a major impact on your fighting. That's why in my > games I've removed the Forces add to your attack roll rule. Ditto - I've never played with anyone who didn't. - --- John Dallman jgd@cix.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:38:47 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Bright Lilim At 9:13 PM +0000 11/16/02, Nigel Cole wrote: >An alternative might be to retain the geasing ability, but put some >suitably angelic dissonance conditions on it, such as only allowing >Geases that won't harm the target. I'd generally think that triads of Judgment would do quite nicely there. Of course, you'd want to explain that "acting unangelically" would tend to get, not dissonance, but removal of the character from play when the triad catches up with her and drags her off to the Spires for trial... (And yeah, if I thought someone were trying to rules-lawyer around just about any angelic dissonance condition, I'd probably lay down the smack like that...) I don't know if it ever made it into canon, but I have had the thought that Brights _tend_ to get Needs which are more, well, Needs and not Wants. (Just what's within the check digit, mind.) Might've wound up with the Yvesian lot, in particular. Would check, but have a toddler pinning down my arms so that all I can reach is the keyboard. O:p - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:13:26 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Some quick thoughts on unarmed combat At 10:52 PM +0000 11/17/02, John Dallman wrote: > >Grappling (Agility or Perception), default -1 While I'm all for this as a house rule... I once suggested a Grappling option for Fighting. SJ's comment spurred me to make a mantra for myself: KINS. Keep In Nomine Simple. O:> (Which isn't to say that such things aren't good, if you like 'em. It's to explain why there isn't one in canon, and won't be... O;> ) At 11:34 PM -0600 11/18/02, Wade Lahoda wrote: > A few quick words before we get too off-topic... > > These martial arts discussions come up on any gaming list sooner or >later... [...] A good point. While I'm not calling a halt to it, I will ask that if anyone wishes to post to this thread, PLEASE take care to make sure that there is A: significant IN content, and B: it's not just arguing questions with anecdotal evidence based on reality. KINS, KINS, KINS. If people like the house rules, then that's fine. If people don't like them, then also fine. They won't ever be canon (unless you go play GURPS IN! O;> ), so no one needs to defend the established rules or promote new ones for a second edition. So don't anyone get all-fired up 'bout it, 'kay? - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:54:00 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> Abusive Resonating (Re: Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2863) At 9:23 AM -0500 11/18/02, EDG wrote: >At 05:30 PM 11/17/2002 -0500, Serai1@aol.com wrote: >>How do people define "abusive uses of resonance?" > >IMO, a resonance is being abused when: > >a) the player is deliberately trying to make the GM's life difficult; or, >b) the player is going out of his way to defuse a plot point by use of his >resonance. > >(A good example of both at once is the Malakite at a dinner party with a >demon - but the Malakite doesn't know *which* guest is the demon. "I >resonate everyone in the room, one at a time.") *blink* That's not abusive -- that's what the resonance is FOR. The problem isn't finding the darn batwings, the problem is getting them to walk around the block, whacking them in the alley, and not getting your tux dirty... Besides, if there are a _lot_ of people, each additional die roll risks a fail with a check of 6, or an Intervention... (Which may result in, "I resonate a few people who might look suspicious." So that's ~3 rolls, and the GM figures out if the demon looked suspicious enough to get resonated...) >Malakim are a varied bunch, >although from empirical evidence, Eli employs more Virtues than any other >Archangel *ever*, with Laurence coming in a distant second.) *snicker* - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:55:51 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Mortals At 9:40 AM -0500 11/18/02, EDG wrote: >This is mainly a question for those readers who have been here long enough >to remember when In Nomine was in its development stages: What's the >rationale behind giving mortals 5 Forces? Well, I'm out, since I only got on board after all the thing was done... (My guesses? 5 fingers and it makes the "max of 5 per Realm, total 15" more rational. House rules encouraged. O:> ) - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:57:10 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Reliever Nicknames At 11:47 AM -0500 11/18/02, Earl Wajenberg wrote: >I'm the one who, a few weeks ago, complained about some IN nomenclature, >specifically the unsatisfying moniker "reliever." Judgment Servitors tend to address them as "Helper." (And Ofanim as "Wheel," Mercurians as "Intercessionist," etc. Stuffy old shirts.) - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:01:59 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> Snuff Films (RE: Releiver Nicknames) At 4:29 PM -0400 11/18/02, Randy Finder wrote: >In a dark campaign, Christopher's Malakim are trying to destroy Andre's >Calabim and Shedim who are running Child Porn/snuff rings... While Andre often has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy about killing humans, he is still an Impudite, and doesn't like humans to be wasted. In all but the darkest campaigns... snuff films with real humans are a perversion of Saminga. (Snuff films with other demons, or angels, or ethereals -- those are fine.) Of course, this doesn't mean that a very dark Andre doesn't occasionally get a taste for five-year-olds... ...but he doesn't like to see humans wasted. - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:15:19 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Resonance Abuse At 1:37 PM -0500 11/19/02, EDG wrote: >No, you're not wrong. But demons do a really good job of showing up on a >Malakite's radar, [...] >[...] >Three most ignoble: forgot to go to a meeting, accidentally broke an >antique vase, told my neighbor that I ran her cat over > >Which one would *you* peg as a demon? :) The latter -- 'fessing up to someone is usually noble, not ignoble. O:> - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:13:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Randy Finder Subject: Re: IN> Snuff Films (RE: Releiver Nicknames) On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > At 4:29 PM -0400 11/18/02, Randy Finder wrote: > > >In a dark campaign, Christopher's Malakim are trying to destroy Andre's > >Calabim and Shedim who are running Child Porn/snuff rings... > > > > While Andre often has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy about killing > humans, he is still an Impudite, and doesn't like humans to be wasted. > In all but the darkest campaigns... snuff films with real humans are a > perversion of Saminga. (Snuff films with other demons, or angels, or > ethereals -- those are fine.) While Andre is an Impudite, so is Kobal and Kobal doesn't seem to have any problem with uses of Dark Humor that ultimately lead to death... And would he really want to leave any part of the human adult movie business uncovered? > > Of course, this doesn't mean that a very dark Andre doesn't occasionally > get a taste for five-year-olds... Agreed. > > ...but he doesn't like to see humans wasted. OK... Randy > > > --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor > http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ > > > - -- Leadership, Friendship and Service - Alpha Phi Omega ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:17:43 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Resonance Abuse - --- Rampaging Crypto-Man wrote: > I use a cosmic code of honor instead, > which seems more In Nomine to me... objective vs. > subjective. But as you said, this makes the Malakite Resonance a pretty reliable demon detector. The alternate version that I liked best has the angel's sense of honor (filtered through Word) as the standard. Thus a Malakite of Flowers might read someone's most noble deed as "refusing a fight" (something that a lot of demons will do) while a Malakite of the Sword with the same CD might get "keeping a promise." =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age 18." -- Albert Einstein

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:23:28 -0700 From: "Rampaging Crypto-Man" Subject: Re: IN> Snuff Films (RE: Releiver Nicknames) > While Andre is an Impudite, so is Kobal and Kobal doesn't seem to have any > problem with uses of Dark Humor that ultimately lead to death... And would > he really want to leave any part of the human adult movie business > uncovered? Absolutely correct. Kobal doesn't mind human death as long as it's funny. Andrealphus doesn't mind human death as long as it's lusty. ("First murder, then rape... or is it the other way around... ah, who cares.") Aleamon doesn't mind human death as long as nobody ever finds out. Nybbas doesn't mind human death as long as you get it on film. And so on. That's the way I see it. > Randy Ben ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:27:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Randy Finder Subject: IN> Demon of Rape considerations... The only writeup of Genubath I've found online is at http://www.amadan.org/Innomine/Genubath.htm and there it says "Only Andrealphus was actively opposed to the Prince of Rapine . . . not because the Prince of Lust disapproves of rape (he doesn't), but because Genubath's conception and use of rape was entirely different from and inimical to Andrealphus'. " Now *if* we take that as a given, what happens to the Demon of Rape when Genubath's word is stolen? 1) If Genubath's attunements still work, he could try to remain as a powerful worded angel without a superior. Difficult, but possible, maybe. 2) Go Renegade, possible, but worded outcast seem to be rare. 3) Give allegiance to Valefor, depends on how much Valefor gains from the theft of dignity and self-assurance and other intangibles. 4) Give allegiance to Andre, though if Andre were opposed, the word shift would be significant. 5) Give allegiance to Baal, with rape being viewed as a tool of the war. 6) In any of these cases, would Furfur be of interest to him when Furfur reaches DP status? Randy - -- Leadership, Friendship and Service - Alpha Phi Omega ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:26:54 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Rape considerations... - --- Randy Finder wrote: > 3) Give allegiance to Valefor, depends on how much > Valefor gains from the > theft of dignity and self-assurance and other > intangibles. Valefor's write-up in S4 specifically mentions his outlook on rape. The Demon of Rape would do well under Theft. > 5) Give allegiance to Baal, with rape being viewed as a > tool of the war. Also a possibility, especially in light of the stories that came out of Bosnia and Afghanistan. > 6) In any of these cases, would Furfur be of interest to > him when Furfur reaches DP status? Only if the Demon of Rape restricted his Word to forcible rape. Statutory rape is a gentler (though by no means kinder) form that would also be of interest to Andre. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age 18." -- Albert Einstein

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 17:34:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Christopher Anthony" Subject: Re: IN> Mortals Elizabeth McCoy said: > (My guesses? 5 fingers... Does this mean that, like Moe's (please, if someone else thought of this first, don't credit this to misattribution: I know it because it appears in his game) "the overwhelming majority of celestials are left-handed" idea, most natural Soldiers are polydactylous? > and it makes the "max of 5 per Realm, total > 15" more rational. House rules encouraged. O:> ) I'm not sure I see this. Max of 5 per Realm means that, in canon IN, the average mortal can get up to 3 more Forces per Realm... except in one Realm, where they can get 4. (15 does make sense; it's an even multiple of 5 - and thrice five, even, which makes it well and goodly mystic.) - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 22:45:25 +0000 From: "Jarrod Carmichael" Subject: Re: IN> Abusive Resonating (Re: Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2863) >Besides, if there are a _lot_ of people, each additional die roll risks >a fail with a check of 6, or an Intervention... > my player learnt this very early on. First couple of games the resonances were being used on every one and everything. After a few 6 failures they learnt to use it as an investigative tool. Not a gimick. But you will notice that when a player gets a new song, attunement, or anything for that matter they go out of there way to use it. Like kids with a new toy. Mallakai Jc "What god wants, god gets, god help us all" _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 06:46:01 +0800 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> Resonance Abuse > Three most ignoble: kicked a dog out of my way, embezzled from my boss, > committed adultery > > vs. > > Three most ignoble: forgot to go to a meeting, accidentally broke an > antique vase, told my neighbor that I ran her cat over > > Which one would *you* peg as a demon? :) Is this a trick question? Because I would peg the first one as a really selfish human being and the second one as a demon. Janet Anderson ************************************************* Seraph: What do we want to do if he turns out to be an infernal? Malakite: I'm kinda hoping we don't find that out definitively. Leaving a long string of bodies behind us isn't a really good idea. - -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:49:11 +0100 From: shadur@systemec.nl (Rens Houben) Subject: Re: IN> Resonance Abuse In other news for Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 03:15:19PM -0500, Elizabeth McCoy has been seen typing: > At 1:37 PM -0500 11/19/02, EDG wrote: > >Which one would *you* peg as a demon? :) > The latter -- 'fessing up to someone is usually noble, not ignoble. O:> Besides which, how do you bet your average demon's chances of successfully embezzling from his Pri-er, boss? (defining successful to include ".. and got away with it alive and undetected") *MAYBE* Valefor would make an exception if one of his servitors actually manages to get past the unholy (in all senses of the word) levels of security he places on his own belongings... But only the truly foolhardy or completely stupid would take that risk... ... OTOH, that might just be how the Demon of Pickpockets got his Word... Hmm, story idea. > --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor > http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ - -Shad - -- Rens Houben | opinions are mine Resident linux guru and sysadmin | if my employers have one Systemec Internet Services. |they'll tell you themselves PGP public key at http://suzaku.systemec.nl/shadur.key.asc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 22:49:01 +0000 From: "Jarrod Carmichael" Subject: Re: IN> Resonance Abuse > >No, you're not wrong. But demons do a really good job of showing up on a > >Malakite's radar, [...] But if your looking at humans you can find out some dark dark things. Im a reasonably ok person, but I think everyone has done some pretty dark things in their time. And im sure as hell not gonna mention mine. You might think less of me ;) Mallakai JC "What god wants, god gets, god help us all" _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 22:51:50 +0000 From: "Jarrod Carmichael" Subject: Re: IN> Snuff Films (RE: Releiver Nicknames) >While Andre is an Impudite, so is Kobal and Kobal doesn't seem to have any >problem with uses of Dark Humor that ultimately lead to death... And would >he really want to leave any part of the human adult movie business >uncovered? > Hmm, snuff. One of the few areas where saminga and andrealphus might co-operate. An impudite of death in service to lust perhaps? Mallakai JC "What god wants, god gets, god help us all" _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 00:04:52 +0100 From: shadur@systemec.nl (Rens Houben) Subject: Re: IN> Bright Lilim In other news for Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 02:38:47PM -0500, Elizabeth McCoy has been seen typing: > At 9:13 PM +0000 11/16/02, Nigel Cole wrote: > (And yeah, if I thought someone were trying to rules-lawyer around > just about any angelic dissonance condition, I'd probably lay down the > smack like that...) Not only that, but I'd think there are very few Archangels that appreciate their Servitors looking for clever ways around their Dissonance Conditions. IIRC in Sup1 Michael's opinion on people playing fast and loose with the Truth of War (by placing someone else in charge to order the retreat and thus avoiding dissonance) fairly clear, and I don't really see how any of the others would be more amenable to those who do so on a regular basis. (On that note, how would you say David stands with regard to servitors carefully and at length taunt opponents until they land the first blow? Especially considering his "Use no coward's weapons" oath -- this does seem like moral cowardice, since the idea was to make them damn themselves, not give them an extra push to speed up the process... > I don't know if it ever made it into canon, but I have had the thought > that Brights _tend_ to get Needs which are more, well, Needs and not > Wants. (Just what's within the check digit, mind.) Might've wound > up with the Yvesian lot, in particular. Would check, but have a toddler > pinning down my arms so that all I can reach is the keyboard. O:p *flipflipflipflip* according to Sup3 Destiny Gifters get to know whether fulfilling a detected Need will lead the mortal to his Destiny or Fate (but not why). > --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor > http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ - -- Rens Houben | opinions are mine Resident linux guru and sysadmin | if my employers have one Systemec Internet Services. |they'll tell you themselves PGP public key at http://suzaku.systemec.nl/shadur.key.asc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 18:39:12 -0800 From: Harukami Subject: Re: IN> Some quick thoughts on unarmed combat >> I tend to see fights between Celestials as very knock-down and drag out >> - they can potentially absoarb tremendous amounts of damage and continue >> to function unimpaired. I don't see In Nomine combat as being so much >> twirling and leaping as lots of close in endurance tests. Think Bruce >> Willis, not Bruce Lee. =) Celestials getting impaled on stuff, and >> keeping on going. Celestials getting eyes gouged out and organs removed, >> and keep on going. Shoving hands into wounds. Twisting blades in >> peoples' guts. Crushing people's skulls. That type of brutal goings >> ons. =) > >While all that certainly /can/ happen, I'm not happy with it being the >/only/ way fights happen. There also needs to be a way for Cherubs who are >looking after someone to forcibly stop them doing something without taking >dissonance for hurting them! For me... I play an Ofanite. Now, there's this sort of difficulty there... to play an Ofanite-eque Ofanite, most of your Corp Forces go into Agility (leaving you, um, 'lean'). Now, we all know what Ofanites look like - Yay! Hong Kong Action Theatre fighting! But not really, judging by game mechanics; fighting is based off strength and so they TEND (unless they have very high Fighting SKILL) to not be such great fighters, but man do they have cinematic dodges. There's more than one kind of cinema, and though gruesome head-crushing might be great for Malakim or Servitors of War, it's blatantly unappropriate for other Choirs for whom agility makes more *sense*, IN-wise. I figure home rules can be adjustable for choir-appropriate combat. ^_~ Harukami ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 18:41:58 -0500 From: "Brian Rogers" Subject: Re: IN> Snuff Films (RE: Releiver Nicknames) Co-operate? I doubt it. They are not simply hostile to each other, like some Archangels are hostile. They are listed as "enemies." Which means they are probably trying to destroy each other almost as avidly as they are attacking heaven. (Another advantage Heaven has. There is bickering and even hostility, but no one is trying to destroy each other.) When it comes to snuff films, they probably see each other as poaching on what they see as their turf. The Notorious Reverend B. > > Hmm, snuff. One of the few areas where saminga and andrealphus might > co-operate. An impudite of death in service to lust perhaps? > > Mallakai > JC > "What god wants, god gets, god help us all" > - -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 18:56:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Christopher Anthony" Subject: IN> New Attunement: Lust By request. (Or, You Can Blame Beth For This) - -EDG Sheath (Lust) Identical to Laurence's Scabbard attunement, but it can only be used to store sexual aids. Any number of objects can be stored, but no single object may be larger than a blow-up doll. Enchanters with this attunement may also use the Concealed Weapon Feature (LR, p.55) on enchanted sexual aids for +4 CP (instead of +5). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 19:03:26 -0500 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> Mystique >Most keen! I do note that IN-proper doesn't have Fright Checks -- I'd >suggest a Will or Intelligence roll, instead? > >Or, perhaps, a Perception roll in some cases, to simply let the >experience "wash through" one and not go gibbery... > > >--Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor >http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ Ah, no Fright Checks. Small changes, then (I'll change these on the site as well, of course): Calmness: Ignore the "automatic pass of Fright Checks" clause; though it is still very hard to frighten a Calmed Mystic. (It would stay in a GURPS version; though I'll probably try to go as statless as possible for Pyramid.) Deep Rapport: Substitute a Will roll for the Fright Check. (Justification: When reading a Celestial, the Mystic must make a Will roll in order to stand firm and not be overwhelmed by the celestial's greater Symphonic presence. Failure means unconsciousness as the Mystic's mind shuts down from the overload of information. Since Mystics tend to concentrate such points as they have in Perception, few will try more than once. You could keep trying, but failure is not pleasant.) William ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 19:02:58 -0500 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Resonance Abuse >No, you're not wrong. But demons do a really good job of showing up on a >Malakite's radar, especially if you know keys to look for. Consider > >Three most ignoble: kicked a dog out of my way, embezzled from my boss, >committed adultery > >vs. > >Three most ignoble: forgot to go to a meeting, accidentally broke an >antique vase, told my neighbor that I ran her cat over > >Which one would *you* peg as a demon? :) > I'm going with Janet on this one as a trick question. How about this- *ping* Most noble thing in the past week: ~Helped a person find their place in respect to the universe.~ Now that either means that they're a human counselor or they're a demon that just got an angel to Fall Josh ^_^' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 18:10:02 -0600 From: "Wade Lahoda" Subject: Re: IN> Resonance Abuse - ----- Original Message ----- From: "BC Petery" > Make him roll each and every one. Then, before he's halfway through the > guess list, throw him a red herring. (The Malkie starts in on him. *Clang* > goes the Symphony.) Or, if you're really lucky, he'll roll an Infernal > Intervention. (A redeemed would be a particularly evil trick. >;) The problem is GMing this. If you only give him a couple of "sample" readings of what he gets, the Demon will stick out like a sore thumb, 9 times out of 10. If you try to give him 30 different resonance readings...you'll spend the entire game making the stuff up. Most of the perception-based resonances can have the problem, but the Malakites and Mercurians are by far the worst. A. Wade Lahoda ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 20:11:20 -0500 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> New Discord Discord: Background Noise The sufferer is plagued by a sound or sound effect that comes from no discernable source. This can range from the buzzing of flies (Death, War, the War, Gluttony) to gastric disturbances (Gluttony) to Drums (War, the Sword, the War or Lust) to bird song (Flowers, Animals, Dark Humor) to Theme Music (If you've ever seen the movie _I'm Gonna Get You Sucka_ you'll know what I mean). Anyone around the sufferer may make a perception roll to hear this Discord. Each level of Discord acts as a bonus to hear the noise, so even at level 1 there is a +1 bonus. Under no circumstances should an individual who hears the Discord be told the affiliation of the Discordant, they have to figure it out for themselves. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= (OK, you _can_ let them roll to see if their character can figure it out, but then they should _always_ have to roll. No player smarts.) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Hey! You're mean!" -Squeakers, Reliever of Flowers "Yeah, but I'm _cute_ so I get away with it." -MacNorma (Free Lilim) http://www15.brinkster.com/ugwump/rpgs/IN/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 20:11:21 -0500 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> Resonance Abuse > Three most ignoble: kicked a dog out of my way, embezzled from my boss, > committed adultery I know this guy IRL. Nobody liked him. He's in jail now. :) ObIN: "The devil (Shedite) made me do it!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 20:11:21 -0500 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> Some quick thoughts on unarmed combat > In tight grappling, the stronger opponent > wins every time. In a fair fight. In elementary school I nearly throttled the school bully, him a head taller and twice as wide. Took two adults to pull me off him. You'd be amazed what you can do when you aren't concerned about the concequences to your opponent or yourself. ObIN: Which is what Malakim are all about. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 17:36:00 -0800 From: edenesque@juno.com Subject: IN> [Successors] Serendipity, Mercurian Archangel of Light-part 1 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ----__JNP_000_0709.1e55.3472 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Last year, we had a contest on the list regarding a post-Armageddon world of successors to the current Superior line-up. I was reading over some of the old archives and decided to develop my idea a bit. This is the first Superior of the setting, and I'll be sending along some of the rest of the setting later. Criticism is most definitely welcome! ^_^ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Serendipity-Mercurian Archangel of Light "The world is clouded in shadows and darkness. Let there be light once more!" It was a strange sensation when Armageddon had come and gone. All the legends on both sides had been interpreted to mean that there would be one clear victor in the cataclysmic war. Either Heaven or Hell would triumph, and whichever side won would dominate the world henceforth. It was...creepy to scholars of the War on both side when it turned out that neither side had apparently won. The Archangels and Demon Princes had simply...annihilated each other. To Serendipity, Mercurian Friend of Sleepers, it had been a terror-fraught time, and it had come with so little warning! She had been on assignment in the corporeal realm, guarding the dreams of a child who had been tortured by a particularly sadistic Habbalite of Nightmares. The Habbalite did not know that a Mercurian of Blandine's had been assigned to her "plaything", but she had been just about to find out--the hard way--when a massive Disturbance had rocked the Symphony. Turning from the boy who she was guarding (in the role of a babysitter), she looked into the night sky and witnessed the skies turning red and weeping fire. In this case, the fire generated from the explosion of nuclear missiles. Ignoring her role, she grabbed the sleeping child and bolted for the nearest Tether of Dreams in her car. The scene that greeted her was chaos. Demons of Nightmares in corporeal form were already storming the Tether! The back-country hill was already aflame and the Cherub Seneschal was soul-dead near the loci of the Tether. Leaving the child in the car, Serendipity carved a direct path to the locus of the Tether, using a reliquary with the Song of Thunder that she had planned to unleash upon a certain unsuspecting Habbalite this evening. The surprise attack from behind startled the demons, and gave the beleaguered defenders of the Tether a chance to regroup. That brief distraction enabled a Seraph Master of the Realms of Night to lead a new charge and sweep the foes from the Tether. Not waiting for congratulations, Serendipity ordered a Cherub to watch her assigned child, still sleeping peacefully in the back seat of the car, and dived through the Tether loci. The trip was...strange. The pure light of the loci was distorted, wavering between light and dark and shot through with flame. Arriving in the Marches, Serendipity gaped as she beheld the flaming wreckage of *both* Towers. Ethereals and Tsayadim had taken the field, harassing the massed forces of Dreams and Nightmares, all allegiances gone now. Shoving her way through the crowd, taking up the flaming sword of a stunned Ofanite, she witnessed a sight she thought she would never see. In the middle of a cleared space, ringed by angels and demons, Serendipity witnessed a sight she thought she'd never really see. Blandine, Cherub Archangel of Dreams, lay on the ground, a spike riven through her blasted chest. The great Lady was in her celestial form, a majestic white wolf with flaring wings and golden eyes, eyes now clouded in pain and dim shadows. Looming over her in all her hideous, warped glory, was Beleth, the Djinn Princess of Nightmares. The strangest thing was that Beleth's face wore a look of mingled triumph and regret. Serendipity wasted no time for thought of what she was doing. Her grief turned to anger and she charged the Princess with only her borrowed sword. The surprised Beleth, weakened from the battle, turned to swat this insect, but at the last second, Serendipity turned her charge into a flying leap and blew all her Essence in an Invocation. Not stopping to wait for help, Serendipity blasphemed Beleth in the worst terms she could use ("failed, useless would-be Cherub" being one of the more polite terms). Her wild slashes did little to actually injure Beleth, but her words infuriated the Princess and distracted her for a key moment. In that moment, there was a burst of radiance, then Superior-level Songs of Thunder and Acid blasted Beleth from her feet. Turning, everyone saw Khalid and Christopher, fresh from respective battles with Magog and Fleurity. The two Archangels ambushed the weakened Beleth (aided by a well-timed sword-thrust into Beleth's eye by Serendipity), and soul-killed her. The angels of Dreams, taking the initative, stormed the demoralized demons of Nightmares, driving them all the way into the Far Marches and then slaughtering them without mercy. There were few survivors. Although Christopher, Khalid remained for a time to aid in the onslaught. When it was done, Serendipity was a heroine, acclaimed by the angels of Dreams as the leader who had stood against the Princess of Nightmares. Unfortunately, it was not enough to win the day. By the time the Marches were cleansed of Nightmares and the backdoor to Hell was held by Heaven, Heaven itself was in flames. In the absence of their Archangel, the angels of Dreams turned to Serendipity for leadership, even the Masters of the Realms of Night. Serendipity left a strong guard around Hell's back door and then led the rest on a charge back into Heaven. She was in time to aid in the retaking of the besieged Halls of Progress, and to witness Jean's triumph over the cyborg troops of Vapula in a searing storm of lightning bolts. The Archangel of Lightning had nearly cleansed the field when Vapula launched a renewed assualt that drove the angels of Dreams back towards the Marches. Serendipity did not see the outcome, but later heard from a surviving Ofanite that Jean destroyed Vapula, but was so weakened that a swarm of Technology Servitors bore him down and held him until Furfur had time to kill him. Weakened and in disarray from the onslaught, the armies of Dreams regrouped in the Halls of Creation, taking in angels from other Words who fled when their Archangels fell. No one much questioned that Serendipity was in charge, leaving the relatively young Mercurian bewildered and dazed. She held her position--and Eli's Halls--until the end. When it was over, when silence reigned in Heaven far more than any Word of the Symphony ever had, Serendipity led her forces out into the flaming wreckage of Heaven. It was horrible. Angels and demons lay strewn everywhere in twisted heaps amidst the ruin of machinery both Divine and Infernal. The greatest devastation lay near the molten crater that had been the Volcano. There Gabriel and Belial had fought for full control of the Word of Fire, and both had ultimately lost, destroyed in the explosion that had leveled the Volcano. The Council Spires lay shattered, and it was a painful thing for many of his angels to see the Archangel of Judgment, fallen on the very steps of the Celestial Tribunal as he personally held it against an onslaught of Baal's warriors and Asmodeus's Gamesters. The only small consolation lay in the fact that the Demon Prince of the Game lay in a slumped corpse not far from Dominic's cloaked body, the Sword of Heavenly Judgment rammed straight through his black heart, nailing him to the ground. As Serendipity led the angels through the remains of Heaven, they encountered bands of demons, who were mercilessly slain as a matter of course. The bewildered Mercurian looked for any Archangel who could possibly take command, but found only their corpses. Christopher, having aided Marc in the fight against Mammon, had met his end at Furfur's hands. Furfur in turn had been laid low by Zadkiel in the battle that had shattered the Citadel of Protection. Litheroy had taken the battle with Alaemon all the way to the Monastery of Masks in Stygia and back to the lake of his Abbey, the two Superiors battling with all the intensity of Belial and Gabriel themselves, while Novalis's Glade laid charred by the forces of Saminga's armies. It was said by some of the survivors of Flowers that as Saminga gloated over the death of Novalis, the Grigori Archangel of Death had returned and dragged the Shedite Prince to Abaddon and an unknown fate. Neither had returned. Some claimed to have seen a Grigori calling herself Harmony, Archangel of Song, traveling towards Yves's burning Library, but her fate was also unknown. Michael and David lay in their burned Groves, fallen in the two-on-two battle with Lucifer and Baal, though not before they had slain their foes as well. The only one who could be found was a dying Janus, slumped against a burned tree in the Groves. He had strangled Valefor and related the news of Laurence's death in the assault on Hell, between the conquest of Hades and the storming of Gehenna. He claimed that Haagenti had devoured the corpse, but Laurence had managed to impale the Prince of Gluttony as he was being eaten. He also related that a strange blackness had flowed from Haagenti's corpse at his death, followed by a feeling of lethargy that had slowed him down long enough for a concerted ambush by Valefor and Kobal to severely damage him, although he'd had the satisfaction of seeing Valefor dead and Lilith's slumped corpse before he'd fled. He could offer no hope for the immediate future, however. With that, he perished. A distraught Serendipity looked around her at the ruin of Heaven and screamed her despair, her loss, and her confusion. As she lowered her tear-streaked face, seeing only the loss of all hope in the universe, a beam of white light descended from the Higher Heavens. A quiet, gentle Voice sounded through the air about the gathered angels then. "Ah, My Daughter, do not fear. The world as you have known it has fallen, in fire and in blood. But now comes the time for rebuilding, for a new hope. The Darkness has been driven back, its' leaders dead. My wayward Son has fallen in his illimitable pride and vainglory. You who have seen My Children through the Darkness shall now take up the burden of Light, to drive back the shadows. Thus it is that one of the least shall become one of the greatest. Friend of Man, Mercurian of Dreams, do you accept this burden?" When the awestruck Mercurian nodded, the light became blindingly brilliant about her, forcing her to her knees. When it had ended, when the State Change had been worked, the voice said softly "Then rise, Serendipity, Archangel of Light, for you are the Lightbringer to a new creation now. The others shall come in time, new Bright Lords, and those who would be the new Dark Lords. Go in peace, My Daughter." With that, the Light from above was gone, but the Light from the Mercurian Archangel shone as brightly as a star. - ----__JNP_000_0709.1e55.3472 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Last year, we had a contest on the list regarding a post-Armageddon = world=20 of successors to the current Superior line-up. I was reading over some of = the=20 old archives and decided to develop my idea a bit. This is the first = Superior of=20 the setting, and I'll be sending along some of the rest of the setting = later.=20 Criticism is most definitely welcome! ^_^
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        To=20 Serendipity, Mercurian Friend of Sleepers, it had been a terror-fraught time, and it had come with so = little=20 warning! She had been on assignment = in the=20 corporeal realm, guarding the dreams of a child who had been tortured by a particularly sadistic = Habbalite of=20 Nightmares. The Habbalite did not = know that=20 a Mercurian of Blandine's had been assigned

to=20 her "plaything", but she had been just about to find out--the hard <= FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman">way--when a massive Disturbance had rocked the = Symphony.=20 Turning from the boy who she was = guarding=20 (in the role of a babysitter), she looked into the night sky and witnessed the skies turning red = and=20 weeping fire. In this case, the fire= =20 generated from the explosion of nuclear missiles.

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Night to lead a new charge and sweep the foes from= the=20 Tether. Not waiting for = congratulations,=20 Serendipity ordered a Cherub to watch her assigned child, still sleeping peacefully in the = back=20 seat of the car, and dived through = the=20 Tether loci.

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        The=20 trip was...strange. The pure light of the loci was distorted, wavering between light and dark and shot through = with=20 flame. Arriving in the Marches, = Serendipity=20 gaped as she beheld the flaming wreckage of *both* Towers. Ethereals and Tsayadim had taken = the=20 field, harassing the massed forces of= Dreams=20 and Nightmares, all allegiances gone now. Shoving

her=20 way through the crowd, taking up the flaming sword of a stunned <= FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman">Ofanite, she witnessed a sight she thought she = would=20 never see.

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        In=20 the middle of a cleared space, ringed by angels and demons, Serendipity witnessed a sight she thought she'd = never=20 really see. Blandine, Cherub = Archangel of=20 Dreams, lay on the ground, a spike riven through her blasted chest. The great Lady was in = her=20 celestial form, a

majestic white wolf with flaring wings and golden = eyes,=20 eyes now clouded in pain and dim = shadows.=20 Looming over her in all her hideous, warped glory, was Beleth, the Djinn Princess of = Nightmares. The=20 strangest thing was that Beleth's = face wore=20 a look of mingled triumph and regret. Serendipity wasted no time for thought of what she= was=20 doing. Her grief

turned to anger and she charged the Princess with = only=20 her borrowed sword. The surprised = Beleth,=20 weakened from the battle, turned to swat this insect, but at the last second, Serendipity = turned=20 her charge into a flying leap and = blew all=20 her Essence in an Invocation. Not stopping to wait for help, Serendipity blasphemed Beleth in = the worst=20 terms she could

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       =20 Turning, everyone saw Khalid and Christopher, fresh from <= FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman">respective battles with Magog and Fleurity. The = two=20 Archangels ambushed the weakened = Beleth=20 (aided by a well-timed sword-thrust into Beleth's eye by Serendipity), and soul-killed her. The angels of = Dreams,=20 taking the initative, stormed the=20 demoralized demons of Nightmares, driving them all the way into the Far Marches and then slaughtering= them=20 without mercy. There were few = survivors.=20 Although Christopher, Khalid remained= for a=20 time to aid in the onslaught. When it was done, Serendipity was a heroine, acclaimed by the angels= of=20 Dreams as the leader who had stood = against=20 the Princess of Nightmares.

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       =20 Unfortunately, it was not enough to win the day. By the time the=20 Marches were cleansed of Nightmares = and the=20 backdoor to Hell was held by Heaven, = Heaven=20 itself was in flames. In the absence of their Archangel, the angels of Dreams turned to Serendipity for=20 leadership, even the Masters of the = Realms=20 of Night. Serendipity left a strong guard around Hell's back door and then led the rest on a charge= back=20 into Heaven. She was in time to aid = in the=20 retaking of the besieged Halls of Progress, and to witness Jean's triumph over the cyborg troops = of=20 Vapula in a searing storm of = lightning=20 bolts. The Archangel of Lightning had nearly cleansed the field when Vapula launched a renewed assualt = that=20 drove the angels of

Dreams back towards the Marches. Serendipity did = not see=20 the outcome, but later heard=20 from a surviving Ofanite that Jean destroyed Vapula, but was= so=20 weakened that a swarm of Technology=20 Servitors bore him down and held him = until=20 Furfur had time to kill him.

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       =20 Weakened and in disarray from the onslaught, the armies of Dreams=20 regrouped in the Halls of Creation, = taking=20 in angels from other Words who fled = when=20 their Archangels fell. No one much questioned that Serendipity was in charge, leaving the relatively young = Mercurian=20 bewildered and dazed. She held her=20 position--and Eli's Halls--until the end. When it was over, when silence reigned in Heaven far more than= any=20 Word of the Symphony ever had, = Serendipity=20 led her forces out into the flaming = wreckage=20 of Heaven. It was horrible. Angels and demons lay strewn everywhere in twisted heaps amidst the ruin of = machinery=20 both Divine and Infernal. The = greatest=20 devastation lay near the molten crater that had

been=20 the Volcano. There Gabriel and Belial had fought for full control of=20 the Word of Fire, and both had = ultimately=20 lost, destroyed in the explosion that= had=20 leveled the Volcano. The Council Spires lay shattered, and it was a painful thing for many of his angels = to see=20 the Archangel of Judgment, fallen on = the=20 very steps of the Celestial Tribunal as he personally held it against an onslaught of Baal's= =20 warriors and Asmodeus's Gamesters. = The only=20 small consolation lay in the fact that the Demon Prince of the Game lay in a slumped corpse not far= from=20 Dominic's cloaked body, the Sword of= =20 Heavenly Judgment rammed straight through his black heart, nailing him to the ground.

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        As=20 Serendipity led the angels through the remains of Heaven, they encountered bands of demons, who were mercilessly = slain=20 as a matter of course. The bewildered= =20 Mercurian looked for any Archangel who could possibly take command, but found only their=20 corpses. Christopher, having aided Marc in the fight against Mammon, had met his end= at=20 Furfur's hands. Furfur in turn had = been laid=20 low by Zadkiel in the battle that=20 had shattered the Citadel of Protection. Litheroy had taken the=20 battle with Alaemon all the way to = the=20 Monastery of Masks in Stygia and back= to the=20 lake of his Abbey, the two Superiors battling with all the intensity of Belial and Gabriel themselves, while= =20 Novalis's Glade laid charred by the = forces=20 of Saminga's armies. It was said by some of the survivors of Flowers that as Saminga gloated over = the=20 death of Novalis, the Grigori = Archangel of=20 Death had returned and dragged the = Shedite=20 Prince to Abaddon and an unknown fate. Neither had returned. Some claimed to have seen a Grigori = calling=20 herself Harmony, Archangel of Song,=20 traveling towards Yves's burning Library, but her fate was

also=20 unknown. Michael and David lay in their burned Groves, fallen in the=20 two-on-two battle with Lucifer and = Baal,=20 though not before they had slain = their foes=20 as well. The only one who could be found was a dying Janus, slumped against a burned tree in the Groves. He = had=20 strangled Valefor and related the = news of=20 Laurence's death in the assault on Hell, between the

conquest of Hades and the storming of Gehenna. He = claimed=20 that Haagenti had devoured the corpse= , but=20 Laurence had managed to impale the Prince of Gluttony as he was being eaten. He also related = that a=20 strange blackness had flowed from = Haagenti's=20 corpse at his death, followed by a feeling of lethargy that had slowed him down long enough for = a=20 concerted ambush by Valefor and = Kobal=20 to severely damage him, although he'd had the

satisfaction of seeing Valefor dead and Lilith's = slumped=20 corpse before he'd fled. He could offer no hope for the immediate future, however. With that,= he=20 perished.

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        A=20 distraught Serendipity looked around her at the ruin of Heaven and screamed her despair, her loss, and her = confusion. As=20 she lowered her tear-streaked face, = seeing=20 only the loss of all hope in the universe, a beam of white light descended from the Higher = Heavens. A=20 quiet, gentle Voice sounded through = the air=20 about the gathered angels then. "Ah, My

Daughter, do not fear. The world as you have known= it has=20 fallen, in fire and in blood. But now= comes=20 the time for rebuilding, for a new hope. The Darkness has been driven back, its' leaders dead. = My=20 wayward Son has fallen in his = illimitable=20 pride and vainglory. You who have seen My Children through the Darkness shall now take up = the=20 burden of Light, to drive back the = shadows.=20 Thus it is that one of the least shall become one of the greatest. Friend of Man, Mercurian of = Dreams, do=20 you accept this burden?" When the = awestruck=20 Mercurian nodded, the light became blindingly brilliant about her, forcing her to her knees. = When it=20 had ended, when the State Change had = been=20 worked, the voice said softly "Then rise, Serendipity, Archangel of Light, for you are the=20 Lightbringer to a new creation now. = The=20 others shall come in time, new Bright Lords, and those who would be the new Dark Lords. Go in peace, My=20 Daughter." With that, the Light from = above=20 was gone, but the Light from the Mercurian Archangel shone as brightly as&= nbsp;a=20 star.

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