in_nomine-digest Friday, January 3 2003 Volume 01 : Number 2920 In this digest: IN> First writeup of mine for 2003! Re: IN> who the demon of Alcoholism would work for Re: IN> First writeup of mine for 2003! IN> Demon of Macs IN> Demon of Annoying Straw Sounds IN> ". . ." Re: IN> Demon of Annoying Straw Sounds RE: IN> The Grinch RE: IN> question about choirs and their words Re: IN> question about choirs and their words RE: IN> question about choirs and their words IN> question about the word-bound IN> Urban Renewal Re: IN> question about the word-bound Re: IN> question about the word-bound Re: IN> Demon of Annoying Straw Sounds Re: IN> Demon of Annoying Straw Sounds Re: IN> question about the word-bound Re: IN> ". . ." Re: IN> Urban Renewal RE: IN> The Grinch IN> Yves' public image ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 21:45:38 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> First writeup of mine for 2003! I'd go for writing something witty and clever right now, but I'm kind of tired and it's probably not necessary anyway. Enjoy, not enjoy, comments welcome. :) Moe Bachliel Ofanite Friend of the Sages Angel of Laziness Corporeal Forces: 6 Strength: 12 Agility: 12 Ethereal Forces: 6 Intelligence:12 Precision: 12 Celestial Forces: 6 Will: 12 Perception: 12 Word-Forces: 5 Vessel: human male/3, human female/3 Skills: Acrobatics/6, Chemistry/6, Computer Operation/6, Driving/6, Dodge/6, Emote/6, Fighting/6, Large Weapon (Sword/6), Medicine/6, Ranged Weapon (rifle/6, shotgun/6), Savior-Faire/6, Tactics/6 Songs: Correspondence (All/6), Daydreams/6, Healing (All/6), Motion (All/6) (Virtuoso), Shields (All/6), Speed (All/6), Symphony (All/6), Tongues (All/6) Attunements: Ofanite of Destiny, Malakite of Destiny, The Akashic Record, Divine Destiny, Divine Logic, Library Card, Right of Passage, Synchronicity, Angel of Laziness Angel of Laziness: When Bachliel does actually do something, it stays done. He doubles the final CD of all successful rolls. Yes, this is cumulative with his Ofanite Attunement and natural resonance. Yes, this means that Bachiel usually has a minimum CD of 14 when succeeding at the above skills and Songs. Yes, this is an incredibly powerful (if not downright frightening) ability to have - and, yes, there are whole divisions of angels voluntarily and independently doing their best to boost the Word of Laziness to the point where the Wheel could give out this ability as a Servitor Attunement. Hopefully, this should give the reader a certain insight in the way Bachliel operates. Rites: Solve a problem right the first time (usable twice per day). Meserach? Bah: the Prince of Sloth was a rank amateur in the art of laziness, compared to Bachliel. That's incidentally one of the reasons why the Ofanite is still around and Meserach isn't, but we'll get back to that later. You see, laziness is more than just flopping on the couch and doing nothing all day: in fact, people who do that sort of thing are profoundly unworthy of the august and honorable designation of 'lazy'. A truly lazy individual is so much more. He or she is someone who has learned, deep in their bones and souls, two of the greatest Truths of the universe: 1). If something is not broken, do not fix it; and 2). If something is broken, fixing it properly the first time means that you never have to bother with it again. Ever. Bachliel keeps to these two Truths with all the passion and energy one would expect from an Ofanite. He keeps himself at the peak of condition - because it makes it so much easier to do his job. He masters whatever skills and Songs that he needs for his duties - - because that way he doesn't have to waste valuable free time looking things up. He performs his tasks quickly and thoroughly - because he loathes having things come back to haunt him. He also sits around a lot, simply because he likes to. Hey, just because you can move fast all the time doesn't mean that you have to move fast all the time. It's more fun if you're doing it because you want to. Bachliel makes other Ofanim faintly nervous - well, he makes just about everyone fairly nervous, but it's more noticeable with the Wheels. OK, 'fairly nervous' is way too mild a term: 'headache-level cognitive dissonance' is much, much more apt. He's very good at loafing, you see. The Ofanite has lots and lots of free time and likes to spend it idling along. Oddly, he always seems to get to where he needs to be with a bare minimum of fuss and invariably just when he's needed, which leads one to wonder just what is going on in Bachliel's head. He's tried to explain it to others - Bachliel is nothing if not genuinely helpful and pleasant (makes it easier to get people to listen to you later, don't you know) - but his explanations are usually so esoteric that they stop barely short of being ineffable. By now angels in the Host that deal with him know enough to just smile, nod and not ask dumb questions. It took him forever to set it up that way, but once he did it was worth it. Oh, and Meserach? Long story: the short version was that Bachliel got his Word somewhere around 800 AD, after a fairly lively debate in the Seraphim Council about possible Word-friction issues with Sloth. Yves indicated that it wouldn't be a problem, and it certainly didn't seem to affect the Ofanite much in the following two centuries. Obviously, any lingering issues went away after Sloth got masticated, thanks to a certain Calabite who also happened to have worked closely with Bachliel in the just-ended Legion War. Funny, that. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 09/18/02 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 01:02:36 -0500 From: Michael Nutt Subject: Re: IN> who the demon of Alcoholism would work for > The word of Alcohol belongs to Haagenti, and thus Gluttony; > the state of being addicted to Alcohol, correspondingly, would > belong to Haagenti, because the state induced by the substance > is within the province of the Word Holder (and, of course, his > Superior). This is canonical, at least for the first part, and I envision it as having a historical basis -- alcohol abuse has been around longer than Fleurity, so Haagenti probably glommed onto the Demon of Alcohol (and his subordinates, like the Demon of Cheap Wine) a long time ago. The behavior caused by any addictive substance seems to fall much more clearly in Haagenti's turf, though, which might keep Fleurity a minor Prince in perpetuity. After all, the Demon of Alcoholics would seem almost tailor-made for Gluttony's organization, with the drive to consume and consume with no end in sight. You can also look at the behavior of crackheads for another example, too. - -- Michael ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 01:06:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> First writeup of mine for 2003! On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Maurice Lane wrote: > 1). If something is not broken, do not fix it; and > 2). If something is broken, fixing it properly the > first time means that you never have to bother with it > again. Ever. Wow. Angelic (Ofanite, even) Laziness. Perfect. My hat is off. > Obviously, any lingering issues went away > after Sloth got masticated, thanks to a certain > Calabite who also happened to have worked closely with > Bachliel in the just-ended Legion War. > > Funny, that. And THIS has me packing my hat away. (Okay, I'm moving in two days; it was getting packed anyways, but you get the superlative compliment anyway.) :) - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! I'll never question the book / But let's say I lived by the book / I never ate meat on Tuesdays / How much bigger would my wings look? -- Insane Clown Posse, "Crossing the Bridge" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 06:23:24 -0500 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> Demon of Macs >> "My name is Woziel and I'm an Elohite of Technology." > > And there you have it! Proof of an infernal device. But Windows was cerated by Saminga... "Blue Screen of Death!!!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 06:23:25 -0500 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> Demon of Annoying Straw Sounds > Kenak's found himself a lot less potent since then. His word, while > sufficently aggravated, is difficult to support Like - *Duh!!* Hasn't this guy ever herad of elementry schools? If he could move a bill through _any_ legislative body requiring schools to supply students with straws he'd be on the way up. He could get a Vapulan to create a straw that makes noises on its own, then get the Demon of Breakfast Cereals to add as a prize. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 06:23:25 -0500 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> ". . ." > ". . ." It's called an elipse. (Yes, like the math thing.) Although I have refered to as a "brain fart." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 09:43:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Randy Finder Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Annoying Straw Sounds On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, BC Petery wrote: > > Kenak's found himself a lot less potent since then. His word, while > > sufficently aggravated, is difficult to support > > Like - *Duh!!* Hasn't this guy ever herad of elementry schools? If he could > move a bill through _any_ legislative body requiring schools to supply > students with straws he'd be on the way up. And in elementary school the number of people who would eat less when hearing the sound is much smaller. In fact at my son's elementary school it seems to be part of the background noise. The only problem is that it is not annoying to most of the people hearing it which might cause problems with the relationship with Malphas (although the level of annoyance to the adult staff might help. > > He could get a Vapulan to create a straw that makes noises on its own, then > get the Demon of Breakfast Cereals to add as a prize. I know that my 6 year old would demand to buy a brand of cereal *just* to get such a straw and that my wife would in turn kill me if I gave in (maybe Saminga would like that) Randy > > - -- Leadership, Friendship and Service - Alpha Phi Omega ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:52:08 -0500 From: "Wajenberg, Earl" Subject: RE: IN> The Grinch Janet Anderson wrote: "Rumors that some Tethers have been known to allow him to hide on the Corporeal Plane if he really needs it are just that -- rumors -- just one more thing for Dominic to investigate in his copious spare time." The Grinch ought to be able to hide fairly easily on the Corporeal Plane. He shares his neighborhood with the Whos, right? In "Horton Hears a Who," we learn that the Whos live on a speck of dust. If the whereabouts of this dust speck is known, it is also probably being guarded by an elephant... Earl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:16:10 -0500 From: "Wajenberg, Earl" Subject: RE: IN> question about choirs and their words Christopher Pipinou wrote: > Well, Music is already held by Israfel, who if memory serves is a Seraph I thought Israfel was an Elohite. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 16:21:45 GMT From: Christopher Pipinou Subject: Re: IN> question about choirs and their words "Wajenberg, Earl" writes: >> Well, Music is already held by Israfel, who >> if memory serves is a Seraph >I thought Israfel was an Elohite. Could be, could be. Not having my books handy, I went for the only web-appearance I know of hers, which was in Tattered Symphony, and there she's a Seraph... When, o when, shall we see the INCyclopedia return? *weeps bitter tears* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 11:30:26 -0500 From: EDG Subject: RE: IN> question about choirs and their words At 11:16 AM 1/2/2003 -0500, Wajenberg, Earl wrote: >I thought Israfel was an Elohite. That's what I'd recalled as well - okay, several weeks ago - but no, she's a Seraph. (Liber Canticorum, p.XX) Because, you know, Music is Truth, and... um, something. - -EDG ObIN: Secrets Servitor Attunement Inexplicable: For 1 Essence, a demon with this attunement can cause a target to become momentarily at a loss for words. This must be done while or just before the target attempts to explain something; at the crucial moment, the victim will be entirely unable to come up with an explanation, no matter how rational or reasonable the final result is. The victim may resist with a Will roll; the CD of a failed resistance roll determines the number of minutes through which this attunement lasts. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:39:46 -0800 (PST) From: rob scwalen Subject: IN> question about the word-bound Does the liber servetorumn hold all or just a majority of the word-bound of In Nomine canon. Since the Encyclopedia is down would that be by only resource for the word-bound? __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 11:43:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Randy Finder Subject: IN> Urban Renewal The word of Urban Renewal should be an interesting one. The Demon of Urban renewal would be a Calabite of Factions, I think, but what if he starts seeing the good that Urban renewal can do. There are three AAs that might want such a Demon to redeem and keep his word (Creation, Wind and Stone), but the problem is that he would be much more effective as a Calabite than as an Ofanite... Randy - -- Leadership, Friendship and Service - Alpha Phi Omega ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 11:48:40 -0500 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> question about the word-bound At 08:39 AM 1/2/2003 -0800, rob scwalen wrote: >Does the liber servetorumn hold all or just a majority >of the word-bound of In Nomine canon. Since the >Encyclopedia is down would that be by only resource >for the word-bound? I wouldn't say all; I wouldn't even say most. In fact, most of the characters in Liber Servitorum, IIRC, are *not* Word-Bound, and in fact many of them are low-level or starting characters. Word-Bound celestials are scattered throughout all of the In Nomine books; there is no definitive reference. (Even if the INcyclopedia were currently available, it wouldn't be fully comprehensive without an update.) - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 11:50:19 -0500 (EST) From: jamoge@wm.edu Subject: Re: IN> question about the word-bound Does the liber servetorumn hold all or just a majority of the word-bound of In Nomine canon. Since the Encyclopedia is down would that be by only resource for the word-bound? None of the above. You can find some non-official Word-bound on the INC, but the Liber Servitorum generally only has non-Worded celestials. In fact... I can't think of one that is Word-bound, but that could be my memory. Josh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 23:51:45 +0800 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Annoying Straw Sounds > I know that my 6 year old would demand to buy a brand of cereal *just* to > get such a straw and that my wife would in turn kill me if I gave in > (maybe Saminga would like that) So would Malphas. Janet Anderson ************************************************* Seraph: What do we want to do if he turns out to be an infernal? Malakite: I'm kinda hoping we don't find that out definitively. Leaving a long string of bodies behind us isn't a really good idea. - -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 16:05:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Randy Finder Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Annoying Straw Sounds On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Janet Anderson wrote: > > I know that my 6 year old would demand to buy a brand of cereal *just* to > > get such a straw and that my wife would in turn kill me if I gave in > > (maybe Saminga would like that) > > So would Malphas. Agreed. But Malphas was in on this from the beginning.Oh well, if she kills me in a fair fight would Baal get involved? And Kobal is on board... Randy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:21:17 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> question about the word-bound At 8:39 AM -0800 1/2/03, rob scwalen wrote: >Does the liber servetorumn hold all or just a majority >of the word-bound of In Nomine canon. Er, try none of them. It was decided in playtest that the Word-bound used up too much of their wordcount allotment in stats, skills, Songs, and attunements, and not enough in their cool background (aka the "Why should we care?" stuff), so the Word-bound I had for them... didn't show up there. *sob* Kathriel, Angel of Sculpting, is in the Designer's Article for the Liber Servitorum, which is accessible via the public archives of www.sjgames.com/pyramid . - -- - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:36:04 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> ". . ." - --- BC Petery wrote: > > ". . ." > > It's called an elipse. Not quite. It's called an _ellipsis_. But a remark ending in one is still elliptical... 0:> =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"War may sometimes be a necessary evil. But no matter how necessary, it is always evil." -- Jimmy Carter

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:38:09 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Urban Renewal - --- Randy Finder wrote: > The Demon of Urban > renewal would be a Calabite of Factions Not necessarily. An Impudite of Greed could get a lot of mileage out of the gentrification aspect of that Word. =====

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"War may sometimes be a necessary evil. But no matter how necessary, it is always evil." -- Jimmy Carter

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 11:00:19 +0800 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: RE: IN> The Grinch > The Grinch ought to be able to hide fairly easily on the Corporeal Plane. > He shares his neighborhood with the Whos, right? In "Horton Hears a Who," > we learn that the Whos live on a speck of dust. If the whereabouts of this > dust speck is known, it is also probably being guarded by an elephant... I think Whoville etc. is on the Ethereal Plane. The fact that not very many beings know the whereabouts of the aforementioned dust speck is indeed one of its best security features and the reason no one has earned the price on the Grinch's head so far. However, the Grinch is the kind of being who (especially around Christmas) just can't help trying to promote his message. He only gets a lot of Essence once a year, and it's the best time for his message, so ... he turns up on the Corporeal Plane sometimes. There's one good story that the Servitors of Christopher like to tell, about the time he hid in a display of stuffed toys (as in the scene from E.T.) and the demons walked right past him. Janet Anderson (who always disliked Rudolph and Frosty but always loved the Grinch. Possibly because the Grinch's songs are not a: sticky sweet and b: overdone every Christmas) ************************************************* Seraph: What do we want to do if he turns out to be an infernal? Malakite: I'm kinda hoping we don't find that out definitively. Leaving a long string of bodies behind us isn't a really good idea. - -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 09:35:57 -0500 From: "Wajenberg, Earl" Subject: IN> Yves' public image Is Yves' status as an emanation or aspect of God generally known? If not, is it known to the Archangels? Or is it strictly a nifty GM datum to be used as needed? Earl ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2920 ********************************