in_nomine-digest Wednesday, February 12 2003 Volume 01 : Number 2962 In this digest: RE: IN> Campaign Flavor- Phantom Tethers RE: IN> Campaign Flavor- Phantom Tethers IN> INverse Superior: (Part II) Baal, Seraph Archangel of Valor Re: IN> INverse Superior: (Part II) Baal, Seraph Archangel of Valor Re: IN> INverse Superior: (Part II) Baal, Seraph Archangel of Valor Re: IN> INverse Superior: (Part II) Baal, Seraph Archangel of Valor IN> Zzzzzzz. Re: IN> INverse Superior: (Part II) Baal, Seraph Archangel of Valor Re: IN> Zzzzzzz. Re: IN> Buying Forces IN> Horrible, terrible, and incredibly intriguing idea... Re: IN> Horrible, terrible, and incredibly intriguing idea... RE: IN> Horrible, terrible, and incredibly intriguing idea... Re: IN> INverse Superior: (Part II) Baal, Seraph Archangel of Valor Re: IN> Zzzzzzz. Re: IN> Horrible, terrible, and incredibly intriguing idea... IN> Heretical Yves. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:59:18 -0600 From: Gregg Forge Subject: RE: IN> Campaign Flavor- Phantom Tethers > > >And some, especially those who were once connected to the Word, see it as a >sign of hope that the Superior, even if Fallen or long dead, may one day >return home... > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 20:01:58 -0600 From: Gregg Forge Subject: RE: IN> Campaign Flavor- Phantom Tethers > > >And some, especially those who were once connected to the Word, >see it as a sign of hope that the Superior, even if Fallen or >long dead, may one day return home... > Magnefique. Here, have an essence and a rite. I've thought the same for a long time, but too many others thought it a brain-breaking foregone conclusion. Kamika-Z ...This IS works of God, we're dealing with, in a sense... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:50:24 -0700 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: IN> INverse Superior: (Part II) Baal, Seraph Archangel of Valor *Dissonance* It is strictly forbidden for Servitors of Valor to show fear, to act in a cowardly manner, or to retreat from any battle unless they are near obvious defeat. They must include any level of the Cowardly Discord for any dissonance rolls they make! *Choir Attunements* (Champions, Heroes, Lords, Baalites) Seraphim: Seraphim of Valor can look into the eyes of anyone, and they will know that individual’s breaking point- just how much suffering and fear they can go through before their valor reaches it’s limit. Cherubim (Partially Restricted): Anyone a Cherub of Baal attunes to will be filled with celestial bravery, and they will be immune to mundane fear, and resist supernaturally induced fear with a Will roll plus the Cherub’s Ethereal Forces. Note that this bravery does not make the attuned foolhardy - they will know when they are in over their head. Ofanim: An Ofanite of Valor may use the Songs of Motion for no Essence, but only if he uses them to save someone from immediate danger. Elohim: With a Perception roll, a Power of Valor will know what will best inspire courage and valor in someone, with the level of inspiration being equal to the check digit of the roll. Malakim (Restricted): Instead of their normal resonance for honor, the Virtues of Valor can choose to instead resonate for courage. Use the same rules for a Malakite resonance, but replace "honor" with "courage". Lilim (Partially Restricted): Lilim who serve Baal act as the mentors to those who have much fear in their lives. When resonating a target, the Lilim will sense any fears the target has along with the Needs, and with 1 Essence and a Will roll, the Lilim can produce an illusion that will haunt her target, giving the individual a chance to overcome their fears (the Lilim can banish the illusion at anytime, and is encouraged to do so if her target is not ready to face it yet). Kyriotates (Restricted): Same as the canonical Kyriotate of the Sword attunement. Mercurian: Mercurians of Valor gain 12 free points to spend on roles that include being brave and saving people, such as firefighters, soldiers, combat medics, self-esteem counselors, and so on. Grigori (Restricted): Anytime these Grigori hear a disturbance through their resonance, they may choose to automatically know the exact origin of the disturbance, but -only- if they go investigate it themselves. If the Grigori tells someone else to do it, they will incur a note of dissonance. Ethereals: Spirits of Baal can muster great courage and hope in the face of despair, and receive a bonus to all rolls equal to half their Ethereal Forces, if they are fighting on Blandine’s side of the Vale. *Servitor Attunements* Art of Valor: Same as the canonical Art of Combat attunement. Heart of Valor: Same as the canonical Knight of the Black Order distinction. Sword of Valor: If the angel has a melee weapon and full Body hits while on the corporeal plane, he may create a field of energy about his weapon, which he can fling at his foe, treating his weapon as a ranged weapon, with a range equal to his Corporeal Forces in yards, and an accuracy equal to one-third his Precision. Shield of Valor: Angels with this attunement take 1/2 normal damage from all attacks that inflict Body hits. Divine Wave: For 1 Essence, the angel can push away anyone surrounding him, with a bright wave of light. The distance the target(s) is flung is equal to the angel's Celestial Forces in feet. This gives the angel time to recover stance, or push back a swarm of foes. Fierce Glare: If the angel engages a minion of evil in combat, before the battle begins, she may look directly into the eyes of her foe, and engage in a contest of Wills. If the angel wins, her opponent will feel compelled to back down -- they get the sense that their opponent is -powerful-, far too powerful for them to handle (penalty to all combat rolls equal to the amount the Will roll was failed by). This may end the fight before it even starts, or drive the angel's opponent into a suicidal rage. If the angel fails the contest, then -she- will be at a penalty to all combat rolls equal to the amount she failed the Will roll by. Voice of Faith: If the angel leads his group in a prayer to God before a battle, he can imbue his companions with holy strength, granting them a bonus to all rolls during the next battle they engage in equal to half his Celestial Forces. This can only be used once; leading multiple prayers by several different angels will not "stack bonuses". Holy Duel: If the angel challenges a demon to celestial combat, and the demon accepts, both the angel and his opponent may assume celestial form for the duration of the battle without causing disturbance. Braveheart: If an unaware human is performing an act of selfless bravery, this attunement will allow the angel to grant immunity from harm to the human for the duration of the act for 4 Essence. For the duration of the brave act, the human will not take any Body hits, and cannot be killed unless someone assaults him through supernatural means. *Distinctions* Vassal of Courage: The angel has an aura of bravery and courage about them that cannot be denied, anyone who serves Heaven or is inherently good will be drawn to ask the Vassal for help if they need it, and will never treat the angel worse than coldly neutral on a failed reaction roll. Inherently evil people and those who serve the Horde will be unnerved by the angel's prescience, and will try to stay out of his way. Friend of the Brave: If a human is trying to do something out of selfless bravery, these angels may lend their own skills or Forces to the human so that he may succeed at his goal. For every level of skill given, the angel must spend 1 Essence, for every Force transferred, 2 Essence. This lasts until the act of bravery is completed, or the human fails. It is these angels who are responsible for events such as mothers pulling up cars to save their children, or victims attacking their assaulters with deadly skill. Master of the Final Battle: If the Master faces a foe of equal or greater power, she may enter a contest of Wills. If the angel wins, then she and her chosen foe will have to fight one another until one of them wins, neither the angel nor her opponent can escape; the battle will go until vessel or soul-death. Many speak in quiet voice that Baal waits eagerly for the Last Day, when he can have his Final Battle with his Fallen brother… *Higher Distinctions* Martyr: If an angel sacrifices himself for a greater good, suffering extreme vessel-death or near soul-death, they are awarded with this distinction. Any time the angel dies and goes into Trauma, he will get an automatic 4 Essence from Baal himself to use on the first roll to break out of it. *Relations* Baal tries to keep excellent relations with others in the Host, but there are still a few Archangels who irk him. Makatiel’s constant insistence on preserving all life appeal to Baal, but the Elohite’s refusal to support battles against Hell infuriates him. Haagenti is too concerned with pleasures of the corporeal for Baal’s liking, and tries to avoid the youthful Archangel. Lilith is the only being in Heaven Baal truly has no love for, for it was she who released Michael from Hell, and Baal cannot forgive her for that, no matter how much she has repented. Allied: Belial, Lucifer, Asmodeus Associated: Magog, Legion, Genubath Hostile: Makatiel, Lilith, Haagenti *Rites* -Kill a demon in fair combat (+3 for soul-death) -Save someone through bravery -Help someone to overcome his or her fears -Kill a Servitor of War (+2 vessel-death, +4 soul-death) -Overcome overwhelming odds -Face your greatest fear and overcome it -Directly assault a Demon Prince (+6 Essence) Chance of Invocation: 1 *Invocation Modifier* +1 A warrior’s sword +2 The tomb of someone who died valiantly +3 A medal of honor +4 A human or angel facing off with 5 or more demons +5 A human dying because of selfless courage +6 A human or angel facing off with a Demon Prince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:28:57 EST From: Leonceour@aol.com Subject: Re: IN> INverse Superior: (Part II) Baal, Seraph Archangel of Valor - --part1_f7.287bef06.2b7bde59_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/12/2003 8:55:00 AM Pacific Standard Time, sirea@softhome.net writes: > Sword of Valor: If the angel has a melee weapon and full Body hits while on > the corporeal plane, he may create a field of energy about his weapon, > which > he can fling at his foe, treating his weapon as a ranged weapon, with a > range equal to his Corporeal Forces in yards, and an accuracy equal to > "Oh, Link/ fill up your hearts/ so you can shoot/ your sword with power." Sorry couldn't resist. But seriously this makes me want to write Link up as either a Malakite or an Ethereal of Valor. BTW, is there a site where these INverse write-ups are being saved? Mike - --part1_f7.287bef06.2b7bde59_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 2/12/2= 003 8:55:00 AM Pacific Standard Time, sirea@softhome.net writes:


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BTW, is there a site where these INverse write-ups are being saved?

Mike

- --part1_f7.287bef06.2b7bde59_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:39:15 -0500 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> INverse Superior: (Part II) Baal, Seraph Archangel of Valor At 12:28 PM 2/12/2003 -0500, Leonceour@aol.com wrote: >BTW, is there a site where these INverse write-ups are being saved? http://www.pvv.org/~solas/inverse/index.html AND: Please turn off HTML mail before posting again. http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/listrules.html - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:42:56 -0700 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> INverse Superior: (Part II) Baal, Seraph Archangel of Valor >> Sword of Valor: >> > > "Oh, Link/ > fill up your hearts/ > so you can shoot/ > your sword with power." > > Sorry couldn't resist. But seriously this makes me want to write Link up as > either a Malakite or an Ethereal of Valor. *laughs* So you see my inspiration ^_~ > > BTW, is there a site where these INverse write-ups are being saved? > > Mike > > By the golly-good graces of Unni, there is. http://www.pvv.org/~solas/inverse/ Updated every now and then- I'm trying to keep it consistent, and it -will- be completed eventually. --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity (currently being ridden by Grapejuice, Renegade Shedite of the Game, and petitioner for the Word of Pranking Tightwads) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:04:43 -0500 From: EDG Subject: IN> Zzzzzzz. By request, I'm posting a pair of Word-bound demons I came up with yesterday. These are in very, very raw form; the only real background that I have is that they're enemies, and that the Djinn once served Dreams. Special thanks to Harukami and S.D. Ryukage for being very amiable muses, and to Unni for threatening me with bodily harm if I didn't post these. - -EDG Fischang Djinn of Fate Demon of Sleeping Late Corporeal Forces: 4 Strength: 10 Agility: 6 Ethereal Forces: 2 Intelligence: 5 Precision: 3 Celestial Forces: 6 Will: 12 Perception: 12 Suggested Word-Forces: 3-5 Skills: Electronics/6, Engineering/6, Knowledge (Beds/6, Mattresses/6, Pillows/6, Sheets/6), Language (English/4), Throwing/6 Songs: Form (Ethereal/6), Healing (All/4), Seals (All/6), Silence (All/6) Attunements: Djinn of Fate, Djinn of Lust, Demon of Sleeping Late Vessel: human male/5, cat/6 Role: Parsifal Tupperton Lansing Kepali IV, pedigreed Persian/6/2 Demon of Sleeping Late: If Fischang shares a bed (or similar sleeping arrangement) with anyone, those in the bed (including Fischang himself) are very difficult to awaken. Each person must succeed at a Strength roll, at a penalty equal to Fischang's Celestial Forces, to wake up if an external attempt to wake that person (shaking, cold water, alarm clock) is made. The penalty to the roll is reduced by one for every two people, beyond the first two and Fischang himself, sharing the sleeping space. This also affects anyone to whom Fischang is attuned, regardless of whether or not Fischang is sleeping with them; if he is, the attuned cannot be awoken by external stimuli. (She will sleep until she awakens naturally.) Personality ...huh? What? Djoo turn m'alarm off? - ---- Panzica Calabite of Fate Demon of Insomnia Corporeal Forces: 6 Strength: 12 Intelligence: 12 Ethereal Forces: 2 Intelligence: 4 Precision: 4 Celestial Forces: 4 Will: 10 Perception: 6 Suggested Word-Forces: 3-5 Skills: Artistry (Painting/2, Writing/2), Dodge/4, Fighting/6, Knowledge (Coffee/6, Depressants/6, Stimulants/6), Language (English/3), Tactics/1 Songs: Entropy (Ethereal/6, Celestial/6), Fire (Ethereal/6, Celestial/6) Attunements: Calabite of Fate, Calabite of Nightmares, Demon of Insomnia Vessel: Human female/6 Role: Risa Hasha, coffeeshop owner/6/2 Demon of Insomnia: The Word of Insomnia gives Panzica a strange perversion of her Calabite resonance. She can use her resonance to reduce the need for sleep in a target; the check digit of a successful use of this resonance is the number of hours by which the target's need is decreased. However, this removes neither the mental effects of sleep deprivation nor the build-up of hallucinogenic toxins in the brain (after two days or more of awakeness). For the duration, the target may still go to sleep, but this requires a Will roll; the check digit of a failed roll, multiplied by 10, represents the number of minutes the victim must wait before trying again. (For obvious reasons, this attunement does not work on celestials, or on any other creature which does not need to sleep.) This attunement may only be used on a given target once every 6 hours, regardless of success or failure. Personality Put it this way: there's a reason Panzica's coffeeshop is open 24 hours. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:45:37 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> INverse Superior: (Part II) Baal, Seraph Archangel of Valor - --- sirea@softhome.net wrote: > Seraphim: Seraphim of Valor can look into the eyes of > anyone, and they will > know that individual’s breaking point Very nice. > Elohim: With a Perception roll, a Power of Valor will > know what will best > inspire courage and valor in someone, with the level of > inspiration being equal to the check digit of the roll. I presume that this grants a bonus equal to the CD of the Resonance roll to any attempt to inspire courage? If so, how long does the bonus last? > Malakim (Restricted): Instead of their normal resonance > for honor, the > Virtues of Valor can choose to instead resonate for > courage. I like this a lot. One suggestion: it should specify that it allows the Malakite to detect acts of courage. > Shield of Valor: Angels with this attunement take 1/2 > normal damage from all attacks that inflict Body hits. Oh, I can see the power gamers lining up for this one. This requires either a roll or an Essence cost to make it balanced. Either way it needs a time limit. > Divine Wave: For 1 Essence, the angel can push away > anyone surrounding him, > with a bright wave of light. This is good. > Fierce Glare: If the angel engages a minion of evil in > combat, before the > battle begins, she may look directly into the eyes of her > foe, and engage in a contest of Wills. Both parties should have to deduct any levels of the Cowardly Discord from the TN of their Will rolls. > Braveheart: If an unaware human is performing an act of > selfless bravery As in unaware of the War or unaware of the angel's intervention? =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

Smart knows what. Intelligence knows how. Wisdom knows why. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:47:57 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Zzzzzzz. RIBLMHO! It makes perfect sense that these two demons wouldn't get along! =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

Smart knows what. Intelligence knows how. Wisdom knows why. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 20:57 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) Subject: Re: IN> Buying Forces In article <20030210222640.98994.qmail@web13202.mail.yahoo.com>, thunderdog_sa@yahoo.com (Michael Walton) wrote: > > The book says stat points cost 3 points each, or a whole > > force at once costs 10. This seemed too cheap to me > IIRC, the price break is a reward for delaying gratification. I wasn't clear enough: the overall price deal (12 or 10 points for a force) seems too cheap - not because I want to hold down stats particularly, but because it makes buying up skills dubiously cost-effective. - --- John Dallman jgd@cix.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:58:57 -0500 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: IN> Horrible, terrible, and incredibly intriguing idea... I was reading Moe's Heretic page when a thought struck me- has anyone done a writeup of the following: Jordi Kyriotate Archangel of Animals Command(er? ress? ers?) of the Host The world is... excuse me a moment... ::multi larynx laughter that begins at chuckles and grows to howls:: I'm sorry, what was the question? Josh ^_^' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 17:03:06 -0500 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> Horrible, terrible, and incredibly intriguing idea... > has anyone done a writeup of the following: > Jordi > Kyriotate Archangel of Animals > Command(er? ress? ers?) of the Host Yes. Randy Finder wrote it back in December. I don't think it's on the INC yet, but I (or he) can forward you a copy... - -- Casca, too much free time ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 18:33:05 -0500 From: "Finder, Randolph J Mr NGB-ARNG" Subject: RE: IN> Horrible, terrible, and incredibly intriguing idea... > Command(er? ress? ers?) of the Host I did a writeup back in December but it wasn't very good. It was based around the idea of St. Francis of Assisi (the RC patron Saint of Animals) being born early enough to get Jordi interested in Humanity before God had to choose a new Commander after Uriel and the events in St. Francis's life (our timeline) allowed him an understanding of Trade, Faith and one other. Unforunately I can't find my copy. If someone can send you a copy, feel free to use anything on there. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:51:50 -0700 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> INverse Superior: (Part II) Baal, Seraph Archangel of Valor > >> Elohim: With a Perception roll, a Power of Valor will >> know what will best >> inspire courage and valor in someone, with the level of >> inspiration being equal to the check digit of the roll. > > I presume that this grants a bonus equal to the CD of the > Resonance roll to any attempt to inspire courage? If so, > how long does the bonus last? It didn't originally- I didn't specify what it meant exactly... but it's a good idea, so it's stolen :D and the duration would be equal to the Elohite's Ethereal Forces. Originally, it only meant that the Elohite would be able to see how much courage they could inspire (i.e. a 1 on the CD would tell the Elly what would inspire the target to be brave in the face of a minor phobia or anixiety they had, while a 6 would tell her what would make someone inspired to be brave in the face of insane danger or anxiety- such as saving the world or facing down a Demon Prince). But your good idea shall be incorporated. > >> Malakim (Restricted): Instead of their normal resonance >> for honor, the >> Virtues of Valor can choose to instead resonate for >> courage. > > I like this a lot. One suggestion: it should specify > that it allows the Malakite to detect acts of courage. Oh yeah. Thanks for catching that :D it'll be revised. > >> Shield of Valor: Angels with this attunement take 1/2 >> normal damage from all attacks that inflict Body hits. > > Oh, I can see the power gamers lining up for this one. > This requires either a roll or an Essence cost to make it > balanced. Either way it needs a time limit. That's true... and it's more of a Fortitude distinction type ability anyways. Maybe- Shield of Valor: When in the face of inpending danger, the angel may temporarily fortify herself against harm. Depending on what plane she is on, the angel may spend 2 Essence, and she will take half damage from all attacks relative to the plane she is on for rounds x Forces of plane she is on. Example: Lioa of Valor is on the celestial plane, and is facing a horde of raiding Honorium and Calabim. She spends 2 Essence, and since she has 4 Celestial Forces, for the next 4 rounds (20 seconds) she will take half damage from all attacks that inflict soul hits. If she changes planes she is on, the attunement will be canceled. That work any better? > >> Fierce Glare: If the angel engages a minion of evil in >> combat, before the >> battle begins, she may look directly into the eyes of her >> foe, and engage in a contest of Wills. > > Both parties should have to deduct any levels of the > Cowardly Discord from the TN of their Will rolls. Ah! I forget the importance of that Discord for this. Added in. > >> Braveheart: If an unaware human is performing an act of >> selfless bravery > > As in unaware of the War or unaware of the angel's intervention? Unaware of the War and intervention. So no Soldier of God can say "Barry! I'm gonna charge that demon pack down and save those kids- give me some brave juice!". It has to be something the human choses to do themself. Also note that since only celestial intervention can harm, everything that would have hurt the human normally will seem to somehow miss them- that is to say, stuff won't bounce off the human, but he will simply seem very "lucky" in his act of bravery. --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity (currently being ridden by Grapejuice, Renegade Shedite of the Game, and petitioner for the Word of Pranking Tightwads) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:53:42 -0700 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> Zzzzzzz. > Fischang > Djinn of Fate > Demon of Sleeping Late > > Panzica > Calabite of Fate > Demon of Insomnia > *laughs* I can get along with both these demons -very- well XD Although, if one is applied in liberal amounts, the other almost becomes a certain reaction... I can't sleep at night easily at -all-, thus my normalm sleep time tends to stretch into hours most people find unacceptable. so it goes :D --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity (currently being ridden by Grapejuice, Renegade Shedite of the Game, and petitioner for the Word of Pranking Tightwads) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:56:31 -0700 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> Horrible, terrible, and incredibly intriguing idea... Finder, Randolph J Mr NGB-ARNG writes: > >> Command(er? ress? ers?) of the Host > I did a writeup back in December but it wasn't very good. It works as an idea... you can always put it this way- "As I see it, the sooner that the rebels are dead and gone, the sooner the other Archangel's will stop worrying so much about humans, and the more they'll pay attention to the REAL important creatures on God's Green Earth. Thus, since I want the job done quickly, it should be obvious that I'll do it best, and I should be the one kicking sorry demon ass. A flock of angry ducks can be vicious you know." ^_~ --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity (currently being ridden by Grapejuice, Renegade Shedite of the Game, and petitioner for the Word of Pranking Tightwads) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 20:30:51 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Heretical Yves. http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine/heretics/YvesH.htm Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 01/21/03 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2962 ********************************