in_nomine-digest Saturday, February 15 2003 Volume 01 : Number 2965 In this digest: Re: IN> Essence Battery IN> Bright Malakim IN> Something for Valentine's day... Re: IN> Heretical Yves Re: IN> Heretical Yves Re: IN> New to the List and a Couple of Questions Re: IN> Bright Malakim Re: IN> Bright Malakim Re: IN> New to the List and a Couple of Questions Re: IN> Bright Malakim Re: IN> Essence Battery Re: IN> New to the List and a Couple of Questions Re: IN> New artfiact: Hoopty Car Re: IN> New to the List and a Couple of Questions Re: IN> Essence Battery Re: IN> Essence Battery Re: IN> Essence Battery Re: IN> Essence Battery Re: IN> Bright Malakim Re: IN> Something for Valentine's day... Re: IN> Something for Valentine's day... Re: IN> Something for Valentine's day... Re: IN> Something for Valentine's day... Re: IN> Bright Malakim IN> AA format Re: IN> AA format Re: IN> AA format Re: IN> Something for Valentine's day... Re: IN> AA format Re: IN> AA format Re: IN> Something for Valentine's day... Re: IN> AA format Re: IN> Something for Valentine's day... Re: IN> AA format Re: IN> AA format Re: IN> AA format Re: IN> Something for Valentine's day... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 17:08:11 -0500 From: Michael Nutt Subject: Re: IN> Essence Battery > Does anyone know the rules for the Essence Battery mentioned in Revelations > IV: Fall of the Malakim? I've search my copy about three times and still > can't find any rules for it!! It's on p. 50 of Fall of the Malakim. There's a massive handwave about how this McGuffin is created, and the Essence-density numbers are off by a factor of 20, but essentially, it's a reliquary holding 1000 Essence created by irreproducible means. - -- Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:24:13 +1100 From: James Walker Subject: IN> Bright Malakim Well, if they can't Fall, the only way is up: Bright Malakim 'The Eternal, Wise Ones, Malakite Emeritus' Heaven's greatest secret, Bright Malakim are (currently) even rarer that Bright Lilim. They're existence will not be revealed until Armageddon, when Uriel will lead them into battle - and hopefully to victory. Becoming a Bright Malakite: Whenever a Malakite fulfils an oath (eg. Slay all Dragons and all dragons have been slain) which he has held for more than a century, he must make a 'dissonance check' against the number of oaths he has completed, adding the highest level Geas he possesses to the TN. 'Failure' causes his nature to change - however, unlike the excruciating pain of Falling, 'Flying' into a Bright Malakite is a delightful experience which, when they try to explain it (which most seem to want to do, especially to normal Malakim) they compare to a human 'coming of age' - they finally feel complete. Uriel was the Second Bright Malakite, as well as the First Malakite. A Bright Malakite belongs in the Higher Heavens; as such, they can make a Will roll to return there if in any other Celestial Realm (just as an angel can make a Will roll in Hell to get to Heaven), which Uriel did during his Trial. The First Bright Malakite was Yves, who become a Malakite during the Rebellion, and a Bright Malakite when the Rebels were kicked out of Heaven; as he had belonged to his own unique choir beforehand, no one other than Uriel realised what had happened. Yves makes a point of locating any Bright Malakim who come into existence, and persuading them to join Uriel until Armageddon. One of his more compelling arguments is the need to prevent Kronos learning about the choir - no one want Balseraphs of Fate to possess the Bright Malakite resonance. "Flying" into a Bright changes the Malakite in many ways. Just as Redeeming strips the new angel of any Celestial Discord, Flying removes all of the Malakite's Ethereal Discord - including Geases. If the Malakite has a Word, that Word *may* change or be stripped, if the Word is only primarily related to the War - this is not painful; again, this is similar to the way the Redeemed lose their Infernal Word, and tends to leave the Wise One will a feeling of completion and contentment. The Malakite also gains a new resonance, which reflects their connection to Eternity. Resonance A Bright Malakite's resonance is for eternity; they always have enough time for what they do, and understand to use time to the best advantage. The Wise ones are never short sighted - they are instinctively aware of the long term consequences of what they do. Nor do they miss opportunities. Dissonance A Bright Malakite probably still has some of the oaths sworn as a Malakite; violating them still causes dissonance, although if an oath becomes irrelevant, it fades away, never to return. Additionally, it is dissonant for a Bright Malakite to miss an once-off opportunity: aware of the nature of time, they must treasure every moment. Manner and Appearance The Eternal blaze with pure light making them impossible to examine closely; if the Eternal choses to damp this light he resembles an ordinary Malakite. They are far more relaxed and at peace than other Malakim, and musically think of themselves as conductors, helping their fellow angels to understand the Symphony and play to their fullest abilities. Game Mechanics: A Bright Malakite's resonance gives them more time. With a successful Perception roll, the Emeritus may invoke his resonance to gain CD rounds of extra time, which can be used to think, use the Meditate skill or Aim a weapon. Repeated uses of the resonance are difficult - for CD minutes after each use, the Eternal has a -1 penalty to reuse the resonance; this penalty is cumulative. Additionally, a PC Eternal can (once per session) ask for a 'time out' to consider a situation, giving the player a number of minutes equal to the character's Celestial Forces to think before making a decision. This ability cannot be used if the character has any dissonance. Finally, the Bright Malakite can still perform the Song of Virtue - if they do so, they regain the Malakite resonance, but can only specify criteria matching their remaining oaths. Failing to exploit an opportunity is only dissonant if the opportunity will not return. If a Wise One has reason to believe that there will be later opportunities to exploit, and it turns out that there isn't, no dissonance accrues (although this is unpleasant for the Emeritus). It is not clear whether Bright Malakim can Fall - more likely, they acquire Discord. Possibly, they revert to being ordinary Malakim - no Wise One is willing to test this theory, of course. Affiliation bonus: Bright Malakim gain a bonus to performances of the Songs of Battle. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 20:35:05 -0500 From: Rolland Therrien Subject: IN> Something for Valentine's day... Here's an odd couple that shows that love truly is strange... Red Riding Hood 6 Force Ethereal Spirit Corporeal Forces: 1 Strength: 1 Agility: 3 Ethereal Forces: 3 Intelligence: 6 Precision: 6 Celestial Forces: 2 Will: 4 Perception: 4 Skills: Emote/4, Medicine/3, Running/3, Seduction/4, Singing/3 Songs: Attraction (Ethereal/3, Celestial/4), Dreams (All/3), Harmony (Corporeal/2 Ethereal/2), Healing (All/3) Big Bad Wolf 8 force Ethereal Corporeal Forces: 4 Strength: 8 Agility: 8 Ethereal Forces: 2 Intelligence: 4 Precision: 4 Celestial Forces: 2 Will: 3 Perception: 5 Skills: Climbing/2, Dodge/3, Emote/3, Fast-Talk/4, Lying/3, Move Silently/3, Seduction/2, Survival/3, Tactics/2, Tracking/4 Songs: Affinity (Ethereal/3), Attraction (Celestial/3), Beasts (Corporeal/4, Celestial/4), NC: Fangs/4, NC Claws/2, NC: Ornamental (Wolfman), Thunder (Howl variant)/3 Some relationships are truly beyond understanding. In the case of these two Ethereals' relationship, it's doubly hard to understand, as far as the Celestials are concerned. Then again, it's not so odd for the Big Bad Wolf and Red Riding Hood to have developped into a couple, when looked upon by human perception. The two ethereals are almost constantly linked to one another anyway, and Lord knows how many couples have played "Big Bad Wolf and Red Riding Hood" together. So the romantic ties between Wolf and Red have grown over the years. It doesn't hurt the fact that the two Ethereals have been forced to cooperate more intensely in recent years. Granted, they hardly have a huge want of Essence, but staying out of the Celestials' way is easier done as two rather then one. The actual tone of the relationship depends on the brightness setting of your campaign: Bright Wolf and Red are truly a couple in love, having long since looked beyond their characters to find companionship in a hostile Symphony. Dark Wolf and Red are a benchmark of troubling relationships, with Wolf being a brutal, abusive, possessive lover, and Red being forced to stay by his side out of the need for Essence: Because while she needs him to be Red, he doesn't need her to be the Big Bad Wolf... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:49:52 -0600 From: Gregg Forge Subject: Re: IN> Heretical Yves > > >In other news for Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 01:56:47AM -0600, Gregg Forge has been seen typing: > > > >>> Kamika-Z, Ofanite Angel of Cognitive Dissonance, pondering... >> >> > > > >>> 3. Uriel and Jordi (points to whomsoever follows that one) >> >> >Ushio and Tora? Only have the first tape. > > We have a winner! Here, have Holy Wifflebat and a point of essence. (^_^) Of course, seeing the Fall as a case of Uriel suddenly going from smug, cocky Seraph into FORM BLAZING HAIR! super-Kabuki-like-megaMane'd Malakite might make certain lovers of the Blackwings come after me with Violation... > > >>> 5. Dominic Tank Police >> >> >Been done. Check the In Nomine Movie Trailers >(http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/articles/Movies.html ) > > With no offense meant to any involvd in that list, I intend to do one better. ;D I love a good challenge, and an excuse to have relics embued wtih the Song of Form... Kamika-Z ...but phalli would be so tasteless...what to make, what to make... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:57:29 -0600 From: Gregg Forge Subject: Re: IN> Heretical Yves > > >- --- Gregg Forge wrote: > > >>> Remember, if it's only cognitive, it's not REALLY >>> dissonant... >> >> > > ...said the Demon of Rationalization. };> > Quiet, you. XD Litheroy deals with Truths of Varying Levels of Obnoxiousness. (^_^) I deal with truths that make the brain go squee, or Clearly Labeled Things of Purely Speculative Nature Never Claimed As Truth But When Imagined Make The Brain Go Squee Even Louder. Like Pulsating Buddha Eggs. XD Kamika-Z ...there's at least one listmemb who'll get that... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 22:10:07 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> New to the List and a Couple of Questions At 12:15 PM -0800 2/14/03, Dawn Burnell wrote: >Also, a question for the Superiors of this list, what is the rule on Non-Cannon >stuff? Like stuff that specifically ignores later books? I'm asking in >reference to adventure seeds and/or new Superiors. Rule? Rule? As in...? If you want to talk about something that's not canon, then turn the non-canon light on at the beginning (if there's any chance that it might be confusing; new Superiors usually aren't), and non-canon away! O:> (Do remember the 10K per day limit on Big Posts, though, please.) - -- - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 20:07:33 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Bright Malakim Well, it's a nice writeup, but I have a small problem - - which I can't really express. You see, under normal circumstances I'd be raising an eyebrow (not seriously) about the oddity of Yves being a Bright Malakite. It seems a bit, well, out there - not to mention from out of left field. (pause) All y'all can all stop laughing at me now. Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 01/21/03 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 23:15:31 -0500 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> Bright Malakim At 12:24 PM 2/15/2003 +1100, you wrote: >...adding the highest level Geas he possesses to the TN. Do you mean, perhaps, subtracting from the TN? Or do you wish to allow a Malakite with the Discord: Geas/6 to automatically "fail"? - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 23:04:31 -0800 From: "Joey's mail" Subject: Re: IN> New to the List and a Couple of Questions > > Love This was Andrealphus's word before he fell, and it is most likely that it would not be reassigned for fear that any such Angel would turn out like Andrealphus. But if it were reassigned, I'd say that Novalis and Eli are the strongest candidates. > Protection There actually is an Archangel of Protection, her name is Zadkiel, and she's featured in Heaven and Hell. It said in her writeup that her original patron was Novalis, but I'd say David or Laurnece may also be good candidates if you wanted to take a more militant approach. > Belief (not Faith) If not Khalid, then either Yves or Blandine. One must believe to have hope, and one must believe on ones self and others to meet his destiny. > Faith (if Kahlid doesn't exsist and you always wanted something else) Again, I'd say Yves or Blandine. > Friendship This is a natural for Novalis, although David might also sponsor such an Angel (friendship is the cornerstone of any kind of bond) or maybe Eli. > Patterns This is a tricky one. Definitly not Janus, as patterns are too predictable, or Yves, as patterns are to easy to let one become trapped in his fate. Novalis or Jordi might take to the patterns in nature. If he were still alive, I'd wager this one would go to Oannes... > Tradition Laurence or Dominic seem the strongest candidates, although Yves may also be interested. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 01:26:34 -0500 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> Bright Malakim > All y'all can all stop laughing at me now. The truly funny portion of this statement is that Moe speaks with an accent somewhere between "incomprehensible Irish brogue" and "New Joisey/Noo Yawk miscegenation". So to hear that accent say "y'all".... - -- Casca We love you, Moe. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 08:59:27 +0000 From: "Paul Kidd" Subject: Re: IN> Essence Battery Michael wrote: >It's on p. 50 of Fall of the Malakim. There's a massive handwave about >how this McGuffin is created, and the Essence-density numbers are off by >a factor of 20, but essentially, it's a reliquary holding 1000 Essence >created by irreproducible means. Yeah I've read the "handwave" before. I was kinda looking for something more solid. I guess being a McGuffin it was never going to get rules. The only reason I was asking was to try and work out how unleashing Essence against a Celestial would kill it? Do they overload or something!!? The Battery seems to work almost in a weapon-like fashion. It gets pointed at a victim and then BLAM! One dead or trauma'd Celestial. I'm assuming that the Liber Reliquarum has detail on Essence-based weapons? (damn must get my hands on this book) _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons http://messenger.msn.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:08:29 +0000 From: "Paul Kidd" Subject: Re: IN> New to the List and a Couple of Questions Dawn Wrote: >Belief (not Faith) >Faith (if Kahlid doesn't exsist and you always wanted something else) I think that Khalid is supposed to be the Arcangel of Belief (encompassing Faith) but things have have gone a little "wrong". But if you don't have The Final Trumpet I won't spoil anything for you (grins). I like Khalid. Bring on Magog! Prize fight, second round! _________________________________________________________________ Overloaded with spam? With MSN 8, you can filter it out http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=32&DI=1059 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 01:22:46 -0800 From: Daiv Subject: Re: IN> New artfiact: Hoopty Car At 1:31 PM -0800 2/14/03, Michael Walton wrote: > You've been playing "Chez Geek," I see. 0:> it is much worse than that. He has been riding around in Hoopty Cars. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 04:23:41 -0800 (PST) From: Jennifer Shih Subject: Re: IN> New to the List and a Couple of Questions - --- Joey's mail wrote: > > Patterns > This is a tricky one. Definitly not Janus, as > patterns are too predictable, > or Yves, as patterns are to easy to let one become > trapped in his fate. > Novalis or Jordi might take to the patterns in > nature. If he were still > alive, I'd wager this one would go to Oannes... Nah, Patterns goes to Raphael, or (in her absence) Jean. What do you think mathematics is all about? Or the scientific method? - -Jennifer __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:34:51 -0500 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: Re: IN> Essence Battery > The only reason I was asking was to try and work out how unleashing > Essence against a Celestial would kill it? The way I read it (And would have run it for the game) is that it's not the rush of Essence that is doing the killing. It's the fact that the two demons had an almost unlimited source of power and could charge up their Songs without draining their own reserves. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 10:17:52 -0500 From: Michael Nutt Subject: Re: IN> Essence Battery > The only reason I was asking was to try and work out how > unleashing Essence against a Celestial would kill it? Do > they overload or something!!? The Battery seems to work > almost in a weapon-like fashion. It gets pointed at a > victim and then BLAM! One dead or trauma'd Celestial. > > I'm assuming that the Liber Reliquarum has detail on Essence-based weapons? > (damn must get my hands on this book) No, actually, it's just a really munchkinesque accessory. The fights go something like this... [scene] Munchkin: "I punch the Big Guy. I have a Target Number of... 2 Corporeal forces, plus 5 Strength, plus Fighting skill of 3, so that's a target number of 10. I spend 50 Essence, so it's now a Target Number of 60, which is autosuccess with +48 to my check digit. I'm also wearing heavy gloves, so I get another +1 Power to my attack, to try to counterbalance the -3 for a punch." GM: "..." Munchkin: (rollrollroll) "Yay! I got a 5 for my check digit, so I do 5 plus 1 minus 3 plus 48... that's 51 points of damage, less the CD of his Dodge roll, if he even makes it, and he's not wearing armor, so he doesn't get anything from that. Fist of Death, baby! Since that's gotta be more than one-quarter of his total hit points, because vessels can't have more than 144 hit points, that means I stunned him, so he can't do anything next round. We all pull out our Uzis and shoot him to death on the floor, and stomp him for a while, and then we pull out our Machetes of Doom and cut his head off for a trophy. You want me to roll for ricochets?" GM: "Uh... no, that's fine..." Munchkin: (after the stomping) "Cool. Wow, I've still got 950 Essence in this Battery. I can pull this trick on 19 other Dukes of Hell! Maybe I can even bag Lucifer if he gets within range..." [end scene] The timeline on pp.126-7 of "Fall of the Malakim" talks about "blasts", but nobody else could ever figure out what they were talking about. The above was about as close as anyone could figure out, and it'll produce the results described in the supplement -- mostly, everyone's just in Trauma, and when they get out and can talk their Superiors into giving them new vessels, the action really starts taking place. Liber Reliquarum doesn't discuss Essence-based weapons, but it's still a tremendously useful book. I'd recommend it right behind the Liber Canticorum. - -- Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:45:47 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Essence Battery From: "Paul Kidd" > > The only reason I was asking was to try and work out how unleashing Essence > against a Celestial would kill it? Do they overload or something!!? It probably also gives you access to the Song Of McGuffins. SONG OF MACGUFFINS: (Secret) This song, posessed only by NPCs who need to advance the plot in some manner, allows the GM to let them do whatever he wants them to do. Essence cost: Whatever the GM feels like at the time ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 23:56:40 +0800 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> Essence Battery > Munchkin: (rollrollroll) "Yay! I got a 5 for my check digit, so I do 5 > plus 1 minus 3 plus 48... that's 51 points of damage, less the CD of his > Dodge roll, if he even makes it, and he's not wearing armor, so he > doesn't get anything from that. Fist of Death, baby! Since that's > gotta be more than one-quarter of his total hit points, because vessels > can't have more than 144 hit points, that means I stunned him, so he > can't do anything next round. We all pull out our Uzis and shoot him to > death on the floor, and stomp him for a while, and then we pull out our > Machetes of Doom and cut his head off for a trophy. You want me to roll > for ricochets?" Hey, Michael, I didn't know you were a fly on the wall in the first In Nomine campaign I played in ... Janet Anderson ************************************************* Seraph: What do we want to do if he turns out to be an infernal? Malakite: I'm kinda hoping we don't find that out definitively. Leaving a long string of bodies behind us isn't a really good idea. - -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 08:46:53 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Bright Malakim If I read this correctly, the Resonance doesn't allow them to gain extra actions. Good thing; otherwise they'd be way too munchkinny. =====

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Smart knows what. Intelligence knows how. Wisdom knows why. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:01:15 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Something for Valentine's day... Heh heh... but then Red is liberated when the BBW is subsumed by an Ethereal spirit who sprang from Teutonic myths. Who's afraid of Beowulf? =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

Smart knows what. Intelligence knows how. Wisdom knows why. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:08:17 -0500 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> Something for Valentine's day... At 09:01 AM 2/15/2003 -0800, you wrote: > Heh heh... but then Red is liberated when the BBW is >subsumed by an Ethereal spirit who sprang from Teutonic >myths. > Who's afraid of Beowulf? I dunno. While most people (and I may give credit here where none is due) have heard of Beowulf, I don't think enough know *about* him to create a powerful enough Ethereal to overtake the Big Bad Wolf as a spirit of fear of the unknown - especially when (again, I may give credit where none is due), in my experience, more people know who *Fenris* was, at least in general terms (i.e., Big Wolf Set Against The Norse Gods). - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:12:38 -0500 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> Something for Valentine's day... > have heard of Beowulf, I don't think enough know *about* him to create a > powerful enough Ethereal to overtake the Big Bad Wolf as a spirit of fear > of the unknown - especially when (again, I may give credit where none is Say what? If anyone in that story is gonig to be a representation of Fear of the Unknown/Blowing your House Down, it'll be Grendel. Beowulf was the human who killed him (and later his mother). - -- Casca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:17:59 -0500 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> Something for Valentine's day... At 12:12 PM 2/15/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Say what? If anyone in that story is gonig to be a representation of Fear of >the Unknown/Blowing your House Down, it'll be Grendel. Beowulf was the human >who killed him (and later his mother). Well, that too. ;) - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 10:41:35 -0700 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> Bright Malakim Nice idea- kinda like the Bonakim in a sense. I also like the totally whacked out idea of Yves being one- that really came out of nowhere and was neat :D --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity (currently being ridden by Grapejuice, Renegade Shedite of the Game, and petitioner for the Word of Pranking Tightwads) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 13:22:37 -0500 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: IN> AA format Is there an unofficial format for s u bmitting Superiors to the list? I'd like mine to conform to list practice as closely as possible. - -- Casca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 13:30:38 -0500 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> AA format At 01:22 PM 2/15/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Is there an unofficial format for s u bmitting Superiors to the list? I'd >like mine to conform to list practice as closely as possible. I tend to adhere as closely as possible to the existing formats whenever possible, and I think this is the trend for most folks. Given the limit on length, this usually means core-rules format. :) - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 13:47:15 -0500 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> AA format > I tend to adhere as closely as possible to the existing formats whenever > possible, and I think this is the trend for most folks. Given the limit on > length, this usually means core-rules format. :) That's not quite what I mean. For example, is it: Celeste, Kyriotate Archangel of The Aether or is it Celeste Kyriotate Archangel of The Aether? Is it: Elohim: blah or Elohim Blah or Elohim blah ? It'd sure be nice if there was a template document for this sort of thing. - -- Casca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 10:49:34 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Something for Valentine's day... Ooo, good thought. I can definitely see Fenris subsuming the Big Bad Wolf. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

Smart knows what. Intelligence knows how. Wisdom knows why. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 13:53:47 -0500 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> AA format At 01:47 PM 2/15/2003 -0500, you wrote: >That's not quite what I mean. Ah! I use Celeste Kyriotate Archangel of the Aether and Elohim: Blah which is, I believe, the format that Moe uses. -_-;; It's also how I tend to format entries for the INC. - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 10:52:08 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> AA format - --- Eric Bertish wrote: > Is there an unofficial format for s u bmitting Superiors > to the list? Not that I'm aware of. I just find it convenient to use the format presented in the core rules. Most others do the same. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

Smart knows what. Intelligence knows how. Wisdom knows why. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 13:54:35 -0500 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> Something for Valentine's day... At 10:49 AM 2/15/2003 -0800, you wrote: > Ooo, good thought. I can definitely see Fenris subsuming >the Big Bad Wolf. Other way round, I think: BBW, being both more recent and more universal, would have swallowed Fenris-wolf. - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 10:56:20 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> AA format - --- Eric Bertish wrote: > That's not quite what I mean. > > For example, is it: > > Celeste, Kyriotate Archangel of The Aether > > or is it > > Celeste > Kyriotate > Archangel of The Aether? Oh, that! Well, I make my Superior posts from textified versions of Word docs that use more-or-less the same formatting as the books, so I generally go with the latter. Except that I'd do it thus: Celeste Kyriotate Archangel of the Aether But the other stuff would go pretty much how you've said: Dissonance It is Dissonant for angels of the Aether to... or Elohim An Elohite of the Aether can... Is that what you were looking for? =====

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Smart knows what. Intelligence knows how. Wisdom knows why. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 11:00:52 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Something for Valentine's day... - --- EDG wrote: > Other way round, I think: BBW, being both more recent and > more universal, would have swallowed Fenris-wolf. More universal? Not hardly. The BBW is pretty much an artifact of Western culture. Fenris and spirits like him are far more universal (it does beg the question of who would win a fight between Fenris and the Chimera, though). Add to that that the Norse pantheon has modern worshippers and the BBW's advantage of being more recent goes away. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

Smart knows what. Intelligence knows how. Wisdom knows why. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:01:15 -0500 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> AA format > Is that what you were looking for? Yes, though there seems to be some disagreement between you and EDG about choir attunements. - -- Casca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:14:54 -0700 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> AA format (This is the template I use- change for Princes as needed, disclude Bright Lilim and Grigori if they're not used in your game world) (Name), (Archangel) of (Word) "The world " (History) *Dissonance* *Choir Attunements* Seraphim: Cherubim: Ofanim: Elohim: Malakim: Bright Lilim: Kyriotates: Mercurians: Grigori: *Servitor Attunements* *Distinctions* Vassal of Friend of Master of *Relations* *Basic Rites* Chance of Invocation: Invocation Modifiers +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 11:41:41 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> AA format - --- Eric Bertish wrote: > Yes, though there seems to be some disagreement between > you and EDG about choir attunements. [nods] But to be honest, I'm usually too focused on content to worry about format unless something is glaringly wrong. I just told you how I prefer to do it. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

Smart knows what. Intelligence knows how. Wisdom knows why. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:50:52 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Something for Valentine's day... At 9:01 AM -0800 2/15/03, Michael Walton wrote: > Heh heh... but then Red is liberated when the BBW is >subsumed by an Ethereal spirit who sprang from Teutonic >myths. > Who's afraid of Beowulf? Nonononono. She's freed when the Big Bad Wolf is squished, witch-like, beneath... ...Free Trader Beowulf, come in, Free Trader Beowulf... - -- - --Beth, ducking and RUNNING ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2965 ********************************