in_nomine-digest Friday, February 28 2003 Volume 01 : Number 2977 In this digest: RE: IN> Angel of Madness - comments please Re: IN> My players are *so* short-sighted. Re: IN> Angel of Madness - comments please RE: IN> Angel of Madness - comments please Re: IN> Divine Cancer Re: IN> My players are *so* short-sighted. Feast of Blades spoilers. Also, two questions... Re: IN> Angel of Madness - comments please IN> Q on Song of Lending. IN> My players are *so* short-sighted. IN> calling Archangel bye a nick name? Re: IN> calling Archangel bye a nick name? Re: IN> calling Archangel bye a nick name? Re: IN> Q on Song of Lending. RE: IN> Suggestion to Any Artists Looking For Something Weird to Do... RE: IN> Big Bad Mike Re: IN> calling Archangel bye a nick name? Re: IN> My players are *so* short-sighted. IN> 7, not a T. ;) Re: IN> Suggestion to Any Artists Looking For Something Weird to Do... IN> [OT: Replies Private] Spoiler Space: A Re-Education. Re: IN> calling Archangel bye a nick name? Re: IN> Big Bad Mike IN> NPC/mini plot seed request RE: IN> Suggestion to Any Artists Looking For Something Weird to Do... Re: IN> calling Archangel bye a nick name? IN> Radio Plays RE: IN> My players are *so* short-sighted. Feast of Blades spoilers. Also, two questions... IN> 1|\| |\|0/\/\1/\/3!!11one (was: Suggestion to Any Artists...) Re: IN> calling Archangel bye a nick name? IN> Weird Dream... Armies of Love... Re: IN> calling Archangel bye a nick name? Re: IN> calling Archangel bye a nick name? RE: IN> Suggestion to Any Artists Looking For Something Weird to Do... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:16:56 -0500 From: "Finder, Randolph J Mr NGB-ARNG" Subject: RE: IN> Angel of Madness - comments please > -----Original Message----- > From: Cameron McCurry [mailto:cmccurry@earthlink.net] > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 2:54 PM > To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com > Subject: Re: IN> Angel of Madness - comments please > > > >> but let me know what you think... > > A few nitpicks.... > > Zalmen seems to have an obscene amount of Attunments as well > as Word Forces > for someone who isn't a Superior. Well, two others within her own superior isn't that strange and I picked the ones that she would find useful. She worked for Blandine, has served to try to link Gabriel and Yves sees how Madness can affect destinies (expaining Yves is sort of wierd). Her Word Forces have been pumped by her 3000 year word friction with Aballam. While it doesn't do great things for her work, it has increased her word. If a Demon Prince can have that as his word it certainly is major enough to support 15 Word Forces. (see below on how it can be an angels word) > > I don't see how being immune to the Balseraphic Resonance > furthers the Word > of Madness. This was sort of added at the end, but I thought it related to the fact that part of Zalmen is insane and that she is so good at recognizing what is and isn't true from within herself that the Balseraphic resonance would not affect her. > > Dominic is the Archangel of Judgment, not Justice. Oops. > > Madness seems like an odd Word to have on Heaven's side. I > don't see how > she's furthering Heaven with it other than providing Word Friction. Hell's words fall into two categories. The ones that are evil and the ones where the word is not evil but it can be used in evil ways. Just as Gabriel has Fire along side of Belial and an angel of the Media(as someone wrote up) can exist, Madness in itself is not evil. She is responsible for the Divine half of madness and exists both to comfort and to help with the inspirations that it gives... Randolph Finder > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:42 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) Subject: Re: IN> My players are *so* short-sighted. In article , andie@guisarme.net (Diane J Donaldson) wrote: > SPOILERS!!! SPOILERS!!!!! SPOILERS!!!! Ditto > > > > > > > > > > > My players ended up calling in a strike force of Malakim on the demons > outside the tether. We called up a similar force, but let the big party disperse before we went in. > Then they went inside and were heading down to the secret room when they > heard demon Wossname & Gebbeleth arguing, and Wossname getting the worst > of it. We stormed down there, started the fight, found out what sort of thing we were up against, and decided it was call-your-superior time. We got Michael, Laurence, Janus and Jean. The ex-demon prince ... well, he didn't last long. Janus was kind enough to move the mere celestials outside before it got serious, but we did see Michael toss the dagger to Laurence with a murmur of "this looks like your kind of thing, kiddo..." - --- John Dallman jgd@cix.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:54:44 -0500 From: "Cameron McCurry" Subject: Re: IN> Angel of Madness - comments please >>Her Word Forces have been pumped by her 3000 year word friction with Aballam. >From what I understand, Words gain strength through work on Earth as opposed to friction. If Words gained strength through friction, Gabriel and Belial would be the two most powerful Superiors. >>This was sort of added at the end, but I thought it related to the fact that part of Zalmen is insane and that she is so good at recognizing what is and isn't true from within herself that the Balseraphic resonance would not affect her. The problem with insanity (At least the real bad cases) is that the person is detached from reality. Now if Zalmen was the Angel of Sanity, I can see some immunity to the Resonance. But I do think that this ability is far too powerful. >>She is responsible for the Divine half of madness and exists both to comfort and to help with the inspirations that it gives... As mentioned before, comforting people and treating madness would go against her Word. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:22:28 -0500 From: "Wajenberg, Earl" Subject: RE: IN> Angel of Madness - comments please EDG wrote: "Careful with your implications here. This seems to mean that the Seraphim Council don't have full control over the Word-binding process - not only did the wrong angel get the Word, but the wrong Word was assigned." *Does* the Seraphim Council have control over the Wording process? Is there any canon about it? For all I know, all they do is pray to God to bestow the Word, which He usually does, it being all the Archangels praying in concert, and so presumably a prayer carrying more weight than usual. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:10:45 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Dunscombe Subject: Re: IN> Divine Cancer > (On a lighter note -- for some reason, I always > imagined Eli to look and act like The Dude from > The Big Lebowski. #$%& it dude, let's go > bowling :D) But Eli cares about people. All the Dude ever wanted was his rug back. ;) ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:12:21 -0800 (PST) From: Fade the Cat Subject: Re: IN> My players are *so* short-sighted. Feast of Blades spoilers. Also, two questions... - --- "Chris Bergstresser" wrote: >Hi all -- > > I finally finished the Feast of Blades adventure (SPOILERS AHOY) with my >players, after only 16 hours of game time spread over five sessions and two >months. Interesting points: (spoiler space) > I figured I'd get the >Seraph-of-Lithroy-GM-mouthpiece conveniently out of the way, by taking the >knife they recovered up to heaven. They decide they don't trust him (a >Seraph of Revelation!) so the party's Seraph and a piece of the Kyriotate >head back with them. ...they didn't trust the Seraph. Of Revelation. A Seraph of Revelation. Who they could just ask, "Are you going to do this as we agreed?" and know full well it would happen if he replies in the affirmative. *tries to process this, mind boggling* Are your players paranoid, insane, or just really not understanding the whole 'Seraph' concept? Or was the Seraph somehow seeming unreasonably shifty? I just can't figure out why players would do this except for metagaming "It's us PCs against the world (e.g. all non-PC characters)" syndrome. _____________________________________________________________ Sluggy.Net: The Sluggy Freelance Community! _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you@yourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:21:24 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Dunscombe Subject: Re: IN> Angel of Madness - comments please --- Cameron McCurry wrote: > >>Her Word Forces have been pumped by her 3000 year >> word friction with >> Aballam. > > From what I understand, Words gain strength through > work on Earth as opposed > to friction. I think this is meant to be a particular case. Word-friction often fosters madness, and, in this case, the Word IS Madness. As each celestial succumbs more and more to the Word-Friction, their madness grows, and, ergo, their Madness grows, thus increasing the friction they inflict on the /other/ celestial... it's a vicious cycle. The PROBLEM with this logic is this: I agree with the statement that "Words gain strength through work on Earth". Increasing *ONE* being's madness - even that of the Wordbound OF Madness - shouldn't make enough of a difference in the overall amount of Madness in the universe for an increase in Word-forces on either side. That's how I read it, anyway. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:27:50 -0500 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> Q on Song of Lending. > My ancient angels have found a demonic Remnant Use the Song of Solace. Or find someone to do it for you. Or take him to a tether, they should have sufficient resources to deal with him. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:27:51 -0500 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> My players are *so* short-sighted. > SPOILERS!!! SPOILERS!!!!! SPOILERS!!!! Most of it went fairly smoothly. At the end the lads staged a frontal assault on the basement. And got creamed. Meanwhile I (Lilim) had slipped around behind Big G and got the drop on him. I squeezed a bunch of Songs out of him (Songmaster too), realized that if he (or the GM) wised up he could blast me out of existence, and popped him like a zit. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:29:28 -0800 (PST) From: rob scwalen Subject: IN> calling Archangel bye a nick name? What would happen to an angel or Archangel if they called Laurence, Larry; Michael, Mike; or Gabriel Gabe? __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:39:22 -0500 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> calling Archangel bye a nick name? At 03:29 PM 2/27/2003 -0800, you wrote: > What would happen to an angel or Archangel if they >called Laurence, Larry; Michael, Mike; or Gabriel Gabe? 1) Spontaneous massive existence failure. 2) It's the GM's decision on how poker-spined he wants to make the Archangels. - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 19:20:38 -0800 From: Harukami Subject: Re: IN> calling Archangel bye a nick name? > What would happen to an angel or Archangel if they >called Laurence, Larry; Michael, Mike; or Gabriel Gabe? Chore duty for an angel. LOTS of chore duty. (With the possible exception of Novalis. Or Eli, but I can't think of any short form for a three letter name except maybe 'E'.) For an Archangel... a little lower down on the Allied status, of course. Surprised this one even got asked, Haru - ---- "...hmm, that's interesting. 'He filled the car with jugs of gasoline mixed with gunpowder and drove it into the wall at 120 mph, with his seatbelt buckled...'" http://haru_in.tripod.com/ Haru's In Nomine page: Game logs, art, and fiction. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 19:53:12 -0500 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> Q on Song of Lending. >My ancient angels have found a demonic Remnant, and want to know what will >happen if the Cherub in the party uses the Song of Lending to hand the demon >a Celestial Force. > >I'm thinking this: > >1. They'll get in trouble with someone. Depends on how hard-nosed their Archangels are, but definitely a possibility. >2. The entity will be a brand-new Celestial, a demon, with a lifespan of >five minutes. I think this is a reasonable "base" result. I don't think it will restore memories of its previous Celestial life, though. Solace will do that, but Lending just makes this the same as any demonic Remnant that had had a new Celestial Force added (which makes it a new Celestial). If the new demon realizes its predicament, I also think it will head to Hell or the nearest demonic Tether at top speed, or try to invoke any Demon Prince, or beg the angels to invoke one of their Archangels for a Redemption attempt -- anything to not face Remnanthood again. >3. On a 666, they'll lose the force. >4. On a 111, they'll lose the force but the demon will become an angel. Both seem like reasonable Interventions. William ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 19:48:37 -0500 From: "The Childers" Subject: RE: IN> Suggestion to Any Artists Looking For Something Weird to Do... Nybbas, Prince of 133T Hax0r d00dz!!!!! "If I can't put my own spin on this 'pirate' business, who in the world can?" Conversely, Ninja Yves leads to: Laurence, Archangel of Throwing Stars Janus, Archangel of Backflipping Out of Danger Gabriel, Archangel of Smokebombs Dominic, Archangel of Black Sneakysuits Blandine, Archangel of Being One With the Night David, Archangel of Numchuks Michael, Archangel of Flipping Out and Killing People (and Robbing Trains, Too) Novalis, Archangel of Flower Arranging and Haiku and Other Stuff That's Kinda Kewl Because Ninjas Do It Litheroy, Archangel of Books You Can Order Through Ads in Magazines So YOU Can Learn the Secrets of the Ninja Too! Or, worse yet, they could all take to wearing individually colored facemasks, and take on rather younger Vessels--Teenage Mutant Ninja Archangels! Anthropomorphised personifications of aspects of the Godhead on the half shell! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 19:55:01 -0500 From: "The Childers" Subject: RE: IN> Big Bad Mike Some thoughts: I figure Baal's stuck with the Word of [Expletive Deleted] Losers. Kobal's likely to end up being Demon Prince of Shut Your Piehole Or Mike'll Shut It For You if he isn't careful. Furfur gets to keep the Word of Hardcore, though. Oh yes indeedy. Lucifer is not redeeming. He knows very well that attempting to redeem for the selfish purpose of saving your skin just doesn't work. I won't be able to do stats any time soon--anyone else is welcome to. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 19:59:30 -0500 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> calling Archangel bye a nick name? > What would happen to an angel or Archangel if they > called Laurence, Larry; Michael, Mike; or Gabriel Gabe? What do you THINK would happen? Sheesh, man, use some imagination. - -- Casca I mean, really. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:13:46 -0500 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> My players are *so* short-sighted. >In article , >andie@guisarme.net (Diane J Donaldson) wrote: > >> SPOILERS!!! SPOILERS!!!!! SPOILERS!!!! [spoiler space] >outside before it got serious, but we did see Michael toss the dagger to >Laurence with a murmur of "this looks like your kind of thing, kiddo..." *Oooooooh*... one wonders what happens when The Archangel of the Sword picks up a bladed weapon that happens to have a piece of a Demon Prince in it.... William ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:14:43 -0500 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: IN> 7, not a T. ;) > Nybbas, Prince of 133T Hax0r d00dz!!!!! > "If I can't put my own spin on this 'pirate' business, who in the world > can?" Dreadfully sorry. -10 points for incorrectly spelling h@xx0r d3\/\/dz. (This is a snippet from a far larger and poorly formatted email. If anyone is interested in reading about the liguistic drift of The Lord's Prayer, from Old English to l337$P34k, let me know...) >>You know, the ones who play FPSes and are constantly yelling at each other! >>If they're going to stay 1337, they need to keep talking differently than >>others. One day, I'm going to log onto a quake server and see this: >> >>EliteFellow: Ah-ha! My aiming skills are unmatched. I have such prowess it >i>s as though I own you. >> >>TricksterMan: Not so! Network latency has inhibited my natural reflexes! >> >>EliteFellow: You deserved your comeuppance, you have been jealously guarding >>the Quadruple Damage for some time now without moving elsewhere! >> >>I think that would scare me more than leetspeak, really. >>-Denor > >At least do it right: > >Lanthorn: Fear and cower before my peerless accuracy and precision, betwixt >which you fell, a corpse, at my feet. > >Nest: Ai! The decided lack of random access memory on this server acts like >a fetter upon my facile grace. Niether you nor your comrades-in-arms, shall >besmirch my gleaming armor with foul bullets this time. > >Lanthorn: Cur! It is not your place to foul the air with your odious >exhalations. You were poised stationary over the Quadruple Damage item, >as a poacher who uses bait lurks in the blind. I however on manoeuver outflanked >you and dispensed a rocket into your posterior. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:02:20 -0500 From: "Joey's mail" Subject: Re: IN> Suggestion to Any Artists Looking For Something Weird to Do... > > The Dread Pirate Furfur > > Calabite Prince of Atrocities > > Hah! The Demon Princess Bride! I love it! > > "Never go against Saminga when Death is on the line!" Or maybe... Malphas, Demon Prince of Mutiny ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:24:27 -0500 From: EDG Subject: IN> [OT: Replies Private] Spoiler Space: A Re-Education. At 08:13 PM 2/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: >SPOILERS!!! SPOILERS!!!!! SPOILERS!!!! Ladies and gentlemen: This is spoiler space. When you are posting something that might spoil a plot point, please use a full page of spoiler space. In general use, this can be read as "twenty-five lines". Five lines of spoiler space is worthless. Just putting "SPOILER SPACE" at the top and including no blank space is worse: it indicates that you knew space was necessary, but couldn't be bothered to include it. This is basic etiquette. - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:20:53 -0500 From: "Joey's mail" Subject: Re: IN> calling Archangel bye a nick name? > What would happen to an angel or Archangel if they > called Laurence, Larry; Michael, Mike; or Gabriel Gabe? > > Some Novalites call their Archangel "Mom..." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:24:20 -0500 From: "Joey's mail" Subject: Re: IN> Big Bad Mike > Lucifer is not redeeming. He knows very well that attempting to redeem for > the selfish purpose of saving your skin just doesn't work. > A friend of mine did a campaign where Malphas took over Hell, and Lucifer went to Heaven as a refugee, but was confined to his old cathedral... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 21:01:15 -0500 From: "Joey's mail" Subject: IN> NPC/mini plot seed request I'm going to be running a campaign set in Austin fairly soon. The players in my group have complained that most of our campaigns are too plot driven, and the characters get swept up in whatever plot the GM has planned. I'm going to try and alleviate this by making a campaign that focuses on character/NPC interaction, although there would be a major plot. The main plot won't visibly surface until later. It focuses on a servitor of Revelations working with a demon of the Media to produce tabloids showing Celestial activites on Earth. Namely, all the ones the PCs were involved in. Before this can have any effect, however, the PCs need to have several "mini-adventures." I want them to focus on NPCs having/causing problems. Lauren, Zara, Hugo, Druiel, and the Old Guy are all still around, but I'd like to bring in some new NPCs, so please give me some suggestions for plot seeds and stuff. Keep in mind that I want to give the PCs room to advance their own plots, so nothing that will demand that the PCs get drawn into a situation where the only way out is to do things one particular way. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:15:59 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: RE: IN> Suggestion to Any Artists Looking For Something Weird to Do... - --- The Childers wrote: > > Nybbas, Prince of 133T Hax0r d00dz!!!!! > "If I can't put my own spin on this 'pirate' > business, who in the world > can?" WRITE IT UP. Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 01/21/03 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 22:16:29 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> calling Archangel bye a nick name? - --- rob scwalen wrote: > What would happen to an angel or Archangel if they > called Laurence, Larry; Nothing. Nothing at all. That's -nothing-, by the way: the world around you goes silent, the clock stops ticking, the entire world fades away until all that's left is his eyes... eyes that are not flashing with anger or pride or spite but eyes that have not rested since that day that they took a fresh-faced young angel and weighed his Sword arm down with duties and responsibilities and the leaden knowledge that his failure very possibly meant the end of the world... eyes that have been denied tears and merriment and smouldering and all the other things once enjoyed and now discarded as the relics of childhood, all so that wiseassed angels that are freer than he can ever hope to be are able to thoughtlessly mangle his name. After that -nothing- has passed its way and gone, he will politely murmur, "I'm sorry, but did you say something?" And you will murmur, "Nothing important, Commander Sir Laurence." And the issue will never come up again. >Michael, Mike; A fight, unless you've earned the right to call him Mike. How well you do in the fight goes a long way in determining whether you'll ever earn the right to call him Mike. There's also that Malakite of Creation who calls him Mikey, but how -she- earned the right has never been adequately determined. > or Gabriel Gabe? Roll 1d6: on a 1-3, she sends the offender back to his/her/its Heart. On a 4-6, she grins, says, "It's Gabbie, actually" and fills the angel up with Essence. Or was that vice versa? Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 01/21/03 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 01:42:43 -0500 From: "G L Hauptman" Subject: IN> Radio Plays I don't know how many people here have ever heard of "Seeing Ear Theatre", the SciFi Channel's Radio Play production group, but I've been listening to the archives lately, and I found two that gave me bad IN plot bunnies... One is "Neil Gaiman's Murder Mysteries". A murder takes place before the fall, and the Angel of Vengence must find the murderer. One of the characters is seriously Yves under another name... The other is a five part Radio Play by Clive Barker called "The History of the Devil". Lucifer has called a trial to be readmitted into Heaven. The first sets a very interesting version of Heaven-- especially the Halls of Progress. The second, well... It gives one a VERY good idea of how to play Lucifer... Dragon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 01:51:03 -0500 From: "Chris Bergstresser" Subject: RE: IN> My players are *so* short-sighted. Feast of Blades spoilers. Also, two questions... SPOILERS AHEAD. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. > -----Original Message----- > From: Elizabeth McCoy > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:37 AM > > 1) The Malakite of Yves, based in the Library of Congress, did not > >possess Area Knowledge (Washington). Navigation in town proved > difficult. > > "Navigation is what Ofanim are for." Yeah. Not a one in the party. Frankly, I think the Cherub would have worked better as a Ofanite, but the player didn't like the dissonance condition. So the Kyriotate tends to possess drivers and the party uses their cars. I've been making her make a driving roll anytime they start rolling, which caused the Kyriotate to reverse into the wall of the garage, denting the fender and trapping her in the vessel until she got it fixed, under threat of dissonance. Speaking of which, I was under the impression from *somewhere* that the Song of Healing worked on inanimate objects, although I can't for the life of me figure out where I got that idea. Can it? > > 3) The combat-monsterish Cherub of Gabriel tried to talk his way past > >about a zillion people, without Fast-Talk or Lying. > > Awwwwwwwww! I let him put a point into Fast-Talk after the second session. > > 8) The players have a tendency to split up, without making > any provisions > >to meet back up. You'd think it would occur to one of them to buy cell > >phones. Or stop splitting up. > > That's what Kyriotates are for, right? Yeah. She twigged to that after a bunch of sessions, although she's still not totally getting it. The party will be trying to figure out how to meet up, and I'll finally point out she's standing right next to everybody, more or less. > > 10) Attacking three demons alone is not a good survival strategy, no > >matter how buff your character is. > > *SNICKER* Which 3? Well, there was the Cherub's attempt to restrain the sorcerer in the bar of the hotel, alone. The sorcerer pretended he didn't speak English, so the Cherub got an operator on the phone who spoke Portuguese, and had her translate: C: "I know who you are. You're coming with me." S: "I am a great and powerful sorcerer. My minions will destroy you. Plus, I have no idea what you're talking about." C: "I really don't think you want me to call everybody, knowing what you did." S: "The powers of darkness are coiling around your throat as we speak. Back off if you value your existence. I'd like to leave now." By this time the operator couldn't handle any more, the hotel security had been called. The Cherub lunged for the sorcerer, the guards lunged for the Cherub, and in shaking off the guards the Cherub rolled an infernal intervention. So one of the guards had his neck broke. At this point I had the Balseraph pop in from the stairs and tell the Cherub the guy he was chasing wasn't the guy who crashed the plane. Which stops the Cherub dead, allowing the sorcerer to escape. The rest of the group arrives, and Huzrael tosses off a Song of Thunder, stunning everyone except the Seraph. The Seraph charges after the demon, the demon swings and rolls a divine intervention, shattering his fist when he connects. The 1-Corporeal-Force-Seraph, taking this as a sign, attempts to go medieval on the demon. The demon uses his good fist to disprove the Seraph. Luckily, the Seraph has Hunt. The rematch has the Balseraph sending three flunkies back to the hotel, and the good guys charging him. Another application of the Song of Thunder later, the Balseraph hightails it to the Theft tether. But the Kyriotate was tailing the flunkies in a cop. I figure, the flunkies are gonna figure out what room the sorcerer's in, and the Kyriotate's gonna notice, and we can get the plot moving again. But the Kyriotate persists in tailing them down a hotel corridor (very subtle) and then bursts into the room to try and get evidence. One short chase downstairs, I assume she's gonna charge out into the lobby full of cops milling around the bar, when she inexplicably decides to stand and fight. Score another batch of dissonance for the Kyriotate. And, of course, it was all capped by the Cherub's individual raid on the Duke of Hell, followed by the Malakite's individual raid on the Duke of Hell. > Host's Corporeal Forces = vessel level in the equation. (Is this in > the errata yet? If not, I need to make some... O:p ) I don't know. I checked the FAQ, and it's not there. So I'm guessing no. - -- Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 23:21:48 -0800 From: Kim Kondratieff Subject: IN> 1|\| |\|0/\/\1/\/3!!11one (was: Suggestion to Any Artists...) >> >> Nybbas, Prince of 133T Hax0r d00dz!!!!! >> "If I can't put my own spin on this 'pirate' >> business, who in the world >> can?" > > WRITE IT UP. May I introduce wtfbbq?, Djinn Demoness of L33tsp34k? wtfbbq? Djinn Knight of Combustion Demon of L33tsp34k Corporeal Forces: 3 Strength: 4 Agility: 8 Ethereal Forces: 5 Intelligence: 10 Precision: 10 Celestial Forces: 4 Will: 10 Perception: 6 (Songs and Skills omitted because my Core Rules is not with me; boohoo!) Vessels: adolescent human male/3, adolescent human female/3 Role: 'Leth@l Pre@cher', human h4xx0r/4 Attunements: Balseraph of Technology, Djinn of Technology, Lilim of Technology, Djinn of the Media, Knight of Combustion, Demon of L33tsp34k Demon of L33tsp34k: wtfbbq? can instinctively make any textual communication between herself and another being completely inscrutable even to a Perception roll, Song of Tongues excepted. Any communication so affected will appear as a meaningless jumble of letters and numbers in semi-grammatical English constructions. In other words, l33tsp34k. Rites: - --Spend one hour composing an e-mail in l33tsp34k, by hand. - --Hold a conversation lasting at least twenty minutes (no idling) entirely in l33tsp34k. - --Create and spread a new dialect of l33tsp34k. (+2 Essence.) Celestial Form: As befits her Word, wtfbbq?'s celestial form is a huge, stylized cross between a cat and a hyena, with tiny, vestigial batwings. She has the most enormous fangy overbite, and is constantly drooling. You knew it had to happen. Ever since the first mortal put fingers to keys and realized a 4 looked somewhat like an uppercase A, things have gotten totally out of hand. L33tsp34k has only grown from there, like some kind of fuzzy green mold on the vast cupcake that is the internet. Or something. Nybbas LOVES wtfbbq?, even if she IS one of Vapula's Djinn. I mean, come on. She's single-handedly ridden her word, once an insignificant little note of a thing riding on Illiteracy's coattails, to become a hiss and a byword everywhere on the internet. Love it, hate it, use it, or mock it, if you're a moderately savvy user of the internet, you've probably encountered wtfbbq?'s handiwork somewhere along the line. It's like a modern-day tower of Babel; and we all know what that did for the Media. Make no bones about it; wtfbbq? does know what she's doing, and when it comes to l33tsp34k, she shows an unnerving lack of apathy about spreading her Word for a Djinn. Then again, with a Word that's growing like wildfire among internet communities, and the support of at least three Demon Princes--because, hey, dividing the l33t from the chaff is what Malphas is all about--who wouldn't blame her for occasionally showing something like enthusiasm at doing her job? Her latest accomplishment--what else?--was sneaking l33t into a major motion picture *coughcougchoughS1M0NEcoughcough*, and the sky's the limit from there. And then? nybb4s pwns u all!!1!1!!11oneone ...Yeah, okay. The write-up sucked. But I've been doodling wtfbbq? all over my chemistry notes for the last two weeks, so. - --Kim Angel of Random Enthusiasm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 02:24:40 -0800 (PST) From: Jennifer Shih Subject: Re: IN> calling Archangel bye a nick name? - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > --- rob scwalen wrote: > >Michael, Mike; [snip] > There's also that Malakite of Creation who calls him > Mikey, but how -she- earned the right has never been > adequately determined. Oh, come on. A Creationer? I think we all know just how she earned it. Through a display of physical prowess skillful enough to impress Mike, of course. - -Jennifer __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:36:07 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> Weird Dream... Armies of Love... This is all based on a rather anime (at least at the end) dream. It's why I'm up at 7frippinAM. *** *** *** The Armies of Love - ------------------ Blandine and Beleth were not the only great lovers in Heaven, though they were the first, and as Cherubim, the obvious. But tales can be told of the cool, intellectual love of Jean and Raphael, the first Elohim, or Janus and Oannes, with the everpresent joining of wind and waves... And of course Andrealphus, Angel and Archangel of Love, felt them all. One of the most delightful Tethers in Heaven was thrice-forked -- a beach on a small peninsula, where wind and waves came together joyously, and led to the domains of all three. In the days before the Fall, after Lucifer had begun to make Andrealphus doubt the Word of Love, that Mercurian went to the thrice-forked Tether, and sought to reassure him/herself that the Word was yet true and pure. And the wild whistling wind and roaring waves there did hold a certain peace, a certain reassurance. So he/she did create... something. Something that was bound into the Tether, a promise and a pledge. Something that even Love's own Fall could not undo. Something not even Oannes's death could undo. Something, perhaps, that could outlast even the Wind. By this time, it's claimed that if you can invoke them, if you can perform the rituals to unseal the Something, that the Armies of Love will come to aid you, save you from whatever threatens you. Some Novalines wonder if it might even invoke Andrealphus himself, and restore his faith in his old Word. There's a building there, now. A huge mansion, of stone and windows, with candelabras. Some very old Servitors wonder if pieces of that house don't remind them a bit of pieces of Love's old Cathedral, with ballrooms for dancing and bedrooms for cuddling. Some Lust-Servitors have found other mirrors that are a little too familiar for comfort -- but not enough to prove anything. The house is huge. It occupies a large chunk of what was once the thrice-forked Tether. You start at night. You go out the front of the house, by the land, and begin to circle it, widdershins. (Counter-clockwise, that is.) At the house's first corner -- it's huge, but square, at least on this side -- is the first test. At night, stand there, where waves and wind roar and howl -- but gently, in this place -- and light a candle. You have to be thinking of someone you care about. Really care about. Sincerity. If the Game knew about this, a demon successfully passing the first test would be named Renegade at once. The candle will cast the shadow of a candelabra upon the waves. No one knows why, anymore. (Do _you_ want to go ask Andrealphus, Demon Prince of Lust? I thought not.) Once the candle is lit, the way is opened. You could turn the corner and walk that stretch of beach without the candle, without the ritual caring in your heart, but the beach would end shortly, halfway along the small, rocky cliff that the house now perches atop from this angle. With the candle and the caring, the beach continues to the house's next corner. Anyone may go with the one who opened the way -- provided they at least care for that person as a friend. Anyone may open the way, too: human, ethereal, celestial... Even undead. At the second corner, the second trial. There's no further beach here, just rocks jutting from the water. Now, you must turn your back, gaze at the waves (wind-spurred, even higher now, crashing upon the rocks beyond but somehow never actually roaring up to soak those who stand at the second trial; from the house, these waves seem to crash against the cliff, and there is no beach to stand on here)... and love someone, without doubt, without holding back. Then turn around. And one more thing: to pass this trial, one must be human. It would be an easy thing for a Cherub. It would be an easy thing for a Seraph who knew the right truths about another, without doubt (and Seraphim who love, rarely hold back; they are pure and feel emotions purely). Even an Elohite might manage the task (objectively, if one has need of the treasure hidden within the once thrice-forked Tether, one should not hold back!). But the only creatures which can open the way are humans, with all their doubts and worries and lack of resonance to tell them that no, they need not doubt. It is, perhaps, an impossible task. No one has ever achieved it. It is said that the closest that was ever come was a young woman and the massively Discordant Djinn of Lust (quite thoroughly Renegade) who was attuned to her. That at the second trial, when she would have returned his love... something happened, that clouded her eyes, and instead of him she turned to kiss and lay with upon the sands, it was another -- a Soldier of Hell who had just enough humanity left to be able to care, and thus follow them. And so was love betrayed, as the Djinn stood by, unaware that his beloved's mind had been clouded with illusion. The story doesn't say what became of them, or if this illusion was in fact a final trial. But the sea and waves remain, and the beach remains, and the house sits above and broods, held uniformly by people of power and pride. And the trials... remain. - -- - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:44:22 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> calling Archangel bye a nick name? At 10:16 PM -0800 2/27/03, Maurice Lane wrote: [snip MUCH WISDOM] Here. Have a cookie. It's full of Essence. - -- - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:42:55 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> calling Archangel bye a nick name? At 8:20 PM -0500 2/27/03, Joey's mail wrote: >> What would happen to an angel or Archangel if they >> called Laurence, Larry; Michael, Mike; or Gabriel Gabe? > >Some Novalites call their Archangel "Mom..." Darn near everyone in the SSO (prime, not game so far) seems to wind up calling her Mama Novalis at least some of the time. Her Servitors with respect and love, and her detractors with some amount of respect, affection, and annoyance... O:> - -- - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:14:42 -0500 From: "The Childers" Subject: RE: IN> Suggestion to Any Artists Looking For Something Weird to Do... - -----Original Message----- From: owner-in_nomine-l@lists.io.com [mailto:owner-in_nomine-l@lists.io.com]On Behalf Of Maurice Lane Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:16 PM To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Subject: RE: IN> Suggestion to Any Artists Looking For Something Weird to Do... - --- The Childers wrote: > > Nybbas, Prince of 133T Hax0r d00dz!!!!! > "If I can't put my own spin on this 'pirate' > business, who in the world > can?" WRITE IT UP. I'm the one with no books, remember? Sorry! <:-) Also, I misspelled 733t. Probably because I'm a grownup. (Gah, kids these days. When *I* was a boy, we played Rogue! With ASCII graphics! And we LIKED it that way!) Other than those problems--in the non-"Pirate Kronos" setting, Nybbas (or Kobal) probably has a Demon of 733T H@X0R D00DZ!!!!! The actual Demon of Hackers probably works for Valefor. ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2977 ********************************