in_nomine-digest Tuesday, January 28 1997 Volume 01 : Number 008 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Jan 97 03:19:48 -0600 (CST) From: kestre1@airmail.net (Andrew Getting) Subject: Re: Pronunciation? At 11:06 PM 1/24/97 -0500, Alex Feely wrote: > > >On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, Andrew Getting wrote: > >> At 04:03 PM 1/24/97 -0500, Don Fnordlioni wrote: >> >On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, Adam Conover wrote: >> > >> >> How do you PRONOUNCE In Nomine? >> > >> >I've been pronouncing it as "In Nom-In-Ay," with the "in" as in the verb >> >"win" in both cases. I'm under the impression it's Latin for "In the name >> >of" >> >> Somewhat. It's "In the Name". The word "of" would be subsumed into >> whoever got their name slapped on it. >> > > I believe it's taken from... > > In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. > >Latin for: In the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost. Actually, it's taken from "In Nomine Satanis", the French version of the game, but that's just a step away from the above... Kestrel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 20:55:59 -0400 From: revonoc@i-2000.com (Adam Conover) Subject: Re: Almost there! Woohoo! The great date has almost arrived... and we'll get our first look at the REAL version of In Nomine (the first look at ALL for those of us without IO account. >;). btw... whoever posted that thing about adapting the World of Darkness to In Nomine or vice versa (I only saw the last message in that particular thread)... great idea! I haven't actually played in the WoD much... but In Nomine seems right up White Wolf's alley. :) Think about a Mage/Demon sort of encounter... heh. Should be fun. Very fun. The only problem might be with the conflicting "philosophies" about the nature of reality... I don't know much about Mage, but if I'm correct, they have a certain way of looking at everything (I don't know what it is, though. :)... as opposed to the Symphony. One will almost certainly have to "adapt" to the other. :) Cheers! - -Daydreamer - --------------------------------------------------------------------- If life is just a game of Dungeons and Dragons, the DM really sucks! ======================================================= | Am I a butterfly dreaming I'm a man? | | Or a bowling ball dreaming I'm a plate of sashami? | | Never assume that what you see and feel is real! | ======================================================= Geek Code: G d? s+: a---- C+++>++++$ U>++ P? L>++ !E? W++>+++$ N+(++) !o? K-? !w--- !O M++ !V? 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No clue as to the patron of Judaism. The pagan gods -- the ones that survived the Purification of the Ethereal Realms -- dwell in the domains of Beleth, Demon Princess of Nightmares, who offered them shelter. They're somewhat lacking in power now, not surprisingly. "Also, are there other supernatural entities besides angels, demons, and assorted servitors of heaven and hell?" Yes and no. There are other supernatural entities -- the undead, imps, relievers, familiars, sorcerers and so on -- but they all have a connection to the divine, even if it's through their neutrality. 3) Stacy Stroud asks "That reminds me to ask--where do angels come from, in the game reality?" As far as I can tell, there are two ways that celestials come into being: a) They're born. Most angels and demons are created from the energies and will of their supervisors. b) They're made. It is possible for Soldiers, Familiars and the like to gain forces. Once you gain your ninth force, you *are* a Celestial. Haagenti, the Demon Prince of Gluttony, got his power this way. Naturally, such ambitious mortals are watched very closely by other Celestials. yours, Jason Schneiderman PS - Running a game of IN this weekend at a convention. Something about the Shedite Prince of Gaming and his struggles with the Kyriotate Archangel of Theatre over the state of roleplaying. :) More later. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 22:55:09 -0500 (EST) From: Alex Feely Subject: Re: Almost there! On Mon, 27 Jan 1997, Adam Conover wrote: > btw... whoever posted that thing about adapting the World of Darkness to In > Nomine or vice versa (I only saw the last message in that particular > thread)... great idea! I haven't actually played in the WoD much... but In > Nomine seems right up White Wolf's alley. :) Think about a Mage/Demon sort > of encounter... heh. Should be fun. Very fun. The only problem might be > with the conflicting "philosophies" about the nature of reality... I don't > know much about Mage, but if I'm correct, they have a certain way of > looking at everything (I don't know what it is, though. :)... as opposed to > the Symphony. One will almost certainly have to "adapt" to the other. :) Actually, philosophies won't need to be adapted. Almost every race has its idea of a world view.... the Symphony would just be one more philosophy, or if you prefer, the way in which Angelics percieve the universe. Afterall, why does the Symphony have to be the real McCoy, or vice versa? :) Angels could be the deluded dream of a feverish eight year old, and those of us trapped in the dream as extras would never know. - -- Alex Feely Aconite@Paris:LFdM (cybersoul.com 8991) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 97 01:39:38 -0600 (CST) From: kestre1@airmail.net (Andrew Getting) Subject: Okay, enough of this... It's been rattling around in my mind for a while, so it's probably in some of yours, too... How many of you are going to draw upon "The Preacher" for ideas? Kestrel, who was going to wait for IN, but decided against it ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:52:02 EST From: jdye@juno.com (JOHN C DYE) Subject: Re: Almost there! On Mon, 27 Jan 1997 22:55:09 -0500 (EST) Alex Feely writes: > > >On Mon, 27 Jan 1997, Adam Conover wrote: > >> btw... whoever posted that thing about adapting the World of >Darkness to In >> Nomine or vice versa (I only saw the last message in that particular >> thread)... great idea! I haven't actually played in the WoD much... >but In >> Nomine seems right up White Wolf's alley. :) Think about a >Mage/Demon sort >> of encounter... heh. Should be fun. Very fun. The only problem might >be >> with the conflicting "philosophies" about the nature of reality... I >don't >> know much about Mage, but if I'm correct, they have a certain way of >> looking at everything (I don't know what it is, though. :)... as >opposed to >> the Symphony. One will almost certainly have to "adapt" to the >other. :) > > Actually, philosophies won't need to be adapted. Almost every >race has its idea of a world view.... the Symphony would just be one >more >philosophy, or if you prefer, the way in which Angelics percieve the >universe. Afterall, why does the Symphony have to be the real McCoy, >or >vice versa? :) I really don't think so. If there was ever a class of being which angels would flame out without fear of retribution or consequences (besides the Fallen) it would be vampires and werewolves. As far as mages, the angels would probably take Constantine's philosophy with regard to them (join or die). The only unallied (and undestroyed) among the WOD crowd would be the super powerful and those hidding in the dark. The vampires in WOD lose a lot of their glamour if they all become "caitiff". Essentially, the way the power levels are set up, they are the low men on campus. So a vampire (the base line of Pale Puppy) would be 1)unknown 2) recruited 3) super powerful or 4) DEAD (all the way this time). As I can already fell the flames of WW lovers, let me explain that I would keep vampires in my IN game. It is just that there would be no Camarilla; vampires, technomancers, and evil Polluters do not control the world (neither do angels or demons). All of these groups are powerful, just not terminally in charge. I never liked that design philosophy in WW that conspiratorial groups controlled the stupid masses (not one but THREE contradictory groups) , but I thought the vamps and mages were cool. BTW, what is wrong with having one world view that is universaly utilized. If it works, why mess with it? jdye@juno.com The GM god ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #8 *****************************