From owner-in_nomine-digest@LISTS.IO.COM Tue Nov 4 02:01:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA26781 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 02:01:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id BAA21500 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:39:34 -0600 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:39:34 -0600 Message-Id: <199711040739.BAA21500@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@LISTS.IO.COM (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@LISTS.IO.COM Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #456 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@LISTS.IO.COM Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@LISTS.IO.COM Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@LISTS.IO.COM Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Tuesday, November 4 1997 Volume 01 : Number 456 In this digest: Re: IN> [Dark Victory] K.K. Re: IN> Angelic Symbology Re: Re: IN> [DARK VICTORY] Places - West Coast Re: IN> [DV] Cities After the Apocalypse Re: IN> [Dark Victory] K.K. Re: IN> [DARK VICTORY] Places - West Coast Re: IN> [DV] Cities After the Apocalypse Re: IN> [DARK VICTORY] Places - West Coast Re: IN> [DV] Falling Re: IN> [DARK VICTORY] Archival and Places IN> IN OGRE Re: IN> [DV] Cities After the Apocalypse Re: IN> [DV] Falling Re: IN> [Dark Victory] K.K. Re: IN> [DARK VICTORY] Archival and Places Re: IN> [DARK VICTORY] Places - West Coast Re: IN> [DV] Cities After the Apocalypse Re: IN> Fighting and forces IN> [DV] Novalis, Angel of Flowers, Master of Comfortors Re: IN> [DV] Cities After the Apocalypse Re: IN> [DV] Falling Re: IN> About Shedim... Re: IN> [DARK VICTORY] Places - West Coast ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:57:59 -0600 (CST) From: redneck@txdirect.net (Redneck Gaijin) Subject: Re: IN> [Dark Victory] K.K. >(K.K. is a Munchkin Lilim of Dark Humor -- look for her on the INC. >http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/articles -- go to Rogues' Gallery. >K.K. is known for having Perception 12, Will 12, Corporeal Forces 1, >and going around getting Geases on Malakim for their need to kill her. >She's a munchkin NPC.) > >Knowing absolutely nothing of Redneck's notions about what should >happen, I'll spend a half hour or so and write... This. >So K.K.'s roaming around the Earth (probably having ditched the >Malakite, but hey, if it made a good story), trying to deal with >her ex-Prince's Redemption and death. She went and shattered her >Heart early on, lest she be taken over by Haagenti (and used for >a spot of color on the main course), but is pretty much lost without >her old Prince. And in a vessel with only 2 body hits. And with >no Malakim to play with. > >K.K., the darling of Shal-Mari's "Malakim Blooper Reels", is miserable. >And she's just not going to stand for that. Now, if she can only >figure out whether she serves the *entity* or the *Word*... > >And she's still got that feather. Well, she has one thing going for her. She's DV Canon. Her part will be made a bit more clear in 'Heavenly Laughter,' if Beth is willing. Redneck Kris Overstreet, will write for food... | Do not taunt Happy Fun Belial. http://www.txdirect.net/users/redneck | * * * c/o White Lightning Productions | "I love the sweet smell of http://www.jurai.net/~redneck/wlp/ | humiliation in the morning!" Webmaster for Antarctic Press | --- Kobal reaffirms himself http://www.antarctic-press.com/ | ***QUESTION EVERYTHING*** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 08:22:21 +1100 From: Jason Mulligan Subject: Re: IN> Angelic Symbology John L Veazey wrote: > > Does anyone know of a book with the anchient Hebrew symbols that were > used to represent angels. Ex. The Prophecy, Uriel After I watched the Prophecy, I took note of the books used in the scene where ??? was doing research and had a look at Amazon books to see if they were real and in print. Amazon had heard of one of them, but it was really hard to get. Anyway, the books in the film were: Hebrew Cabalist Writings Jewish Magic and Superstition, by Trachtenberg (this is the one Amazon has heard of) Jewish Encyclopedia - -- Jason Mulligan "The path of my life is strewn with cowpats from the devil's own satanic herd!" - Edmund Blackadder ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 15:39:59 From: Jeff Miller Subject: Re: Re: IN> [DARK VICTORY] Places - West Coast >That's what I thought. > >Vancouver's toast. > Oh, well. Jeff Miller Program Director/Webmaster for Agamemcon II Burbank Airport Hilton -- May 22-24, 1998 Contact Info: 24161-H Hollyoak (714)643-8352 Laguna Hills, CA 92656 www.primenet.com/~shadocat/agamemcon.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 15:45:44 From: Jeff Miller Subject: Re: IN> [DV] Cities After the Apocalypse [Portland] > >And what about all the volcanoes around that area? I know Mt. St. Helens >isn't the only one... > I don't remember. I can think of about 5-6 in the Oregon/Washington area but there are probably more. Most of the mountains are uplift mountains rather than volcanic. Jeff Miller Program Director/Webmaster for Agamemcon II Burbank Airport Hilton -- May 22-24, 1998 Contact Info: 24161-H Hollyoak (714)643-8352 Laguna Hills, CA 92656 www.primenet.com/~shadocat/agamemcon.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:49:30 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> [Dark Victory] K.K. At 5:57 PM -0600 11/3/97, Redneck Gaijin wrote: >>(K.K. is a Munchkin Lilim of Dark Humor -- look for her on the INC. >>http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/articles [...] >> >>Knowing absolutely nothing of Redneck's notions about what should >>happen, I'll spend a half hour or so and write... This. > > > >>So K.K.'s roaming around the Earth [...] in a vessel with only 2 >>body hits. And with no Malakim to play with. >> >>K.K., the darling of Shal-Mari's "Malakim Blooper Reels", is miserable. >>And she's just not going to stand for that. Now, if she can only >>figure out whether she serves the *entity* or the *Word*... >> >>And she's still got that feather. > >Well, she has one thing going for her. > >She's DV Canon. > >Her part will be made a bit more clear in 'Heavenly Laughter,' if Beth is >willing. Of *course* I'm willing! Cool. I made canon! (Well, I want to thank Em for some of the stuff *we've* been talking about. It helped me write that.) And now I'm curious about the plot, of course. O:D - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 15:22:43 From: Jeff Miller Subject: Re: IN> [DARK VICTORY] Places - West Coast >> Yep. The mental visual of an island with an observatory on the top of it >> sticking up in the middle of the bay is too good to pass up (even though >> the nuke would probably take out the observatory). >> >I pity anyone in the vicinity of the solar telescope, especially if it >happens to be pointed in the right general direction to catch and >amplify the light of the blast, even through a solar filter. Brings to >mind the old Mannfred Mann song, "Blinded by the Light". >{much snippage of stuff yaddayadda} > Well, both Mount Wilson and and Griffith are close enough that I don't think that it would make too much difference. >> I was thinking more about the ash etc. from the volcanoes. Those east of >> the mountains are in just about as much danger as those in the mountains. >> And remember tht the Ricter scale is not linear. A force 9 is *way* more >> powerful than a force 8 and a force 10.... > >I think there is supposed to be a comma after the "8" there... > Yep. Jeff Miller Program Director/Webmaster for Agamemcon II Burbank Airport Hilton -- May 22-24, 1998 Contact Info: 24161-H Hollyoak (714)643-8352 Laguna Hills, CA 92656 www.primenet.com/~shadocat/agamemcon.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 16:00:01 From: Jeff Miller Subject: Re: IN> [DV] Cities After the Apocalypse >>A good portion will make the trasition. The population is sparse but it >>tends to be clumped around food sources. After the gas runs out, there's >>always grain alcohol. The mind set in that area runs toward self >>sufficiency. Otherwise, they wouldn't be there. Oh, and they're >>almost all armed. > >WIth arrows or guns? Gun ammo will run out fast, and unless there's plants >in Boise I don't know about, the only thing to supply them will be those >brave traders who convoy from Kansas City to Santa Fe. > I know a number of people up there that can "roll their own." Note that my experience is mostly with northern Idaho. Also, don't discount the damage that a crossbow can do. Also, for some creatures, explosives are the way to go. And those are easy to make. >And grain alcohol will ruin a non-modified engine in a heartbeat. True. However, for that area, I figure that that'll only be a short term problem. They'll walk and ride horses until they get the cars running again. Electricity will probably be a problem but not much of one. >>> >>There's not much to fall so rebuilding won't be much of a problem. There's >>quite a bit of timber for building. Unless there's a need for defense, the >>inhabitants of Boise and Helena will probably move out into the outlying >>areas and team up with the farmers and ranchers. Since farming and >>ranching will become more labor intensive, the majority of the newcomers >>should be welcome. > >Actually, there is a need for defense- even if there isn't a military threat >(and there could very well be), there's lots of -very- nasty beasties out >there. Jerseys are mild in comparison compared to some. > For defense, they'd probably form armed camps with explosives involved in the perimeter defenses. I'm not saying that a lot of people won't get toasted but anyone who lives out the first three months will probably survive unless threats continue to escalate. >And as we know, velociraptors travel in packs... That's what pipe bombs and mortars are for. > >Redneck (took two hours to write this, trick-or-treats are something else here) > Huh. I only got a about ten groups this year. And I was giving out tootsie-rolls. Oh well, guess I bounce off the walls for a while. Jeff Miller Program Director/Webmaster for Agamemcon II Burbank Airport Hilton -- May 22-24, 1998 Contact Info: 24161-H Hollyoak (714)643-8352 Laguna Hills, CA 92656 www.primenet.com/~shadocat/agamemcon.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 15:37:34 From: Jeff Miller Subject: Re: IN> [DARK VICTORY] Places - West Coast At 07:44 PM 10/31/97 -0600, you wrote: >>>Actually, my concept was to have it be two sounds - San Andreas Sound north >>>of LA, California Sound south of LA. Baja Island is the obvious name for the >>>southern isle, but the huge northern one still hasn't revealed its name to >>me. >>> >>OK. That's what I had in mind but I didn't know if you had some reason for >>keeping the southern portion connected. >> >>Why not Western California? > >Western California Island? > Sounds good to me. Especially since Baja California Island basicly means Southern California Island. >>Yep. The mental visual of an island with an observatory on the top of it >>sticking up in the middle of the bay is too good to pass up (even though >>the nuke would probably take out the observatory). > >Nah. It'd glow in the dark, but if the bomb hit at downtown, the observatory >might still be standing... > Awesome visual. >>>And the Imperial Valley in southern California will be underwater. Death >>>Valley will become the Great Salton Bay. >>> >>Hmmm.... Death Valley is *really* deep. I wonder what lives in there now.... > >Squid? > Or something.... >>I wonder what's going on in Montana, the Dakotas, and British Colombia. >>Those will be largely untouched by disasters. > >The Dakotas, and indeed the plains from Calgary down to Oklahoma City, have >a unique problem; that's where Vapula unleashed Project: Carnosaur, Subject: >Velociraptor. > That might cause problems.... I'm assuming that they'll be able to survive the winter or do they migrate? >As for Montana, someone else is trying to persuade me that life goes on as >normal... I'm trying to figure out where they get the bullets from to keep >it that way. > Um... They'd make them. I don't even think that they'd have to resort to black powder. There are probably plenty of people there and in northern Idaho who can make modern gun poweder. Then there are the natives who may have other kinds of help. >As for British Columbia, I'd be very concerned about Vancouver Island... >wish I knew more firsthand about its geology... > Hmmm.... I've only been there a couple of times. I don't *think* that it's volcanic. Most of the population lives in the low areas though. Once they get cleaned up from the disaster, the Island would probably be a pretty nice place to live. Unless it got Celestialed. Not much industry, that I can recall, so its isolation may be a bit of a problem. Jeff Miller Program Director/Webmaster for Agamemcon II Burbank Airport Hilton -- May 22-24, 1998 Contact Info: 24161-H Hollyoak (714)643-8352 Laguna Hills, CA 92656 www.primenet.com/~shadocat/agamemcon.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:50:32 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> [DV] Falling At 5:33 PM -0600 11/3/97, Redneck Gaijin wrote: >I should note that Beth's answer here applies to standard IN (Outcast-Fallen) >and not DV (go to Hell go directly to Hell do not pass Outcast do not >collect 2 Essence). Gotta eat breakfast before reading email. >In DV, with Creation already half in the Nether Realms, only one Demonic >Intervention is needed to Fall. But it's on a dissy roll, not "any" roll. Did I manage that part? :-J - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:51:14 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> [DARK VICTORY] Archival and Places At 6:38 PM -0500 11/3/97, Casca wrote: >On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > >> Okay -- there's enough DV stuff about various Places going around... > >I'll say. I've lost count of how many email are sitting on my mail spool >with the DV header. And this is -with- judicious deletion. >> Would one of my Servitors (I think I have two Servitors of Archives: >> Casca and A. Nachmias) like to earn a Distinction by putting the >> Places together into coherency, and sending it to me? > >Of course, Archangel. Would you like what I have collected thus far, or >should I wait until the thread dies down? I prefer the latter. Latter is probably fine, just so long as someone's doing it... >> --Archangel Beth, Archangel of Archives > >Any word yet from the Council regarding my petition for the word of >Continuity Tracking? If you can make sense of all this... I'd say it's a shoe-in! - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:02:05 -0600 (CST) From: Martin Leslie Leuschen Subject: IN> IN OGRE Kyrios of Jean just git *Really* obnoxious. Thanks Beth, Martin Leuschen martinl@rice.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:22:15 -0600 (CST) From: redneck@txdirect.net (Redneck Gaijin) Subject: Re: IN> [DV] Cities After the Apocalypse >[Portland] >> >>And what about all the volcanoes around that area? I know Mt. St. Helens >>isn't the only one... >> >I don't remember. I can think of about 5-6 in the Oregon/Washington area >but there are probably more. Most of the mountains are uplift mountains >rather than volcanic. > Last I looked, uplift mountains -are- volcanic, the magma just cooled before it broke the surface. Anyway, I keep getting quoted the numbers 'dozens' and 'hundreds' when I look up volcanoes on the Northwest coast. The Cascades are loaded with 'em- I remember that from my geography class. Speaking of volcanoes, if you hadn't guessed, kiss off Mexico City and everyone in it... they're sitting under one of the largest ashcone volcanoes in the world. Redneck Kris Overstreet, will write for food... | Do not taunt Happy Fun Belial. http://www.txdirect.net/users/redneck | * * * c/o White Lightning Productions | "I love the sweet smell of http://www.jurai.net/~redneck/wlp/ | humiliation in the morning!" Webmaster for Antarctic Press | --- Kobal reaffirms himself http://www.antarctic-press.com/ | ***QUESTION EVERYTHING*** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:42:02 -0600 (CST) From: redneck@txdirect.net (Redneck Gaijin) Subject: Re: IN> [DV] Falling >>In DV, with Creation already half in the Nether Realms, only one Demonic >>Intervention is needed to Fall. > >But it's on a dissy roll, not "any" roll. Did I manage that >part? :-J Yep, you did. Redneck (don't worry, everyone has days like that) }:-{D Kris Overstreet, will write for food... | Do not taunt Happy Fun Belial. http://www.txdirect.net/users/redneck | * * * c/o White Lightning Productions | "I love the sweet smell of http://www.jurai.net/~redneck/wlp/ | humiliation in the morning!" Webmaster for Antarctic Press | --- Kobal reaffirms himself http://www.antarctic-press.com/ | ***QUESTION EVERYTHING*** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:47:29 -0600 (CST) From: redneck@txdirect.net (Redneck Gaijin) Subject: Re: IN> [Dark Victory] K.K. >>>K.K., the darling of Shal-Mari's "Malakim Blooper Reels", is miserable. >>>And she's just not going to stand for that. Now, if she can only >>>figure out whether she serves the *entity* or the *Word*... >>> >>>And she's still got that feather. >> >>Well, she has one thing going for her. >> >>She's DV Canon. >> >>Her part will be made a bit more clear in 'Heavenly Laughter,' if Beth is >>willing. > >Of *course* I'm willing! Cool. I made canon! (Well, I want to thank >Em for some of the stuff *we've* been talking about. It helped >me write that.) > >And now I'm curious about the plot, of course. O:D > Well, since the scenario might be playtested in the DV PBEM, I can't say too much to the main list- in fact, I've already hinted enough at it that I can't say anything publicly for now. A private email is coming, though... Redneck Kris Overstreet, will write for food... | Do not taunt Happy Fun Belial. http://www.txdirect.net/users/redneck | * * * c/o White Lightning Productions | "I love the sweet smell of http://www.jurai.net/~redneck/wlp/ | humiliation in the morning!" Webmaster for Antarctic Press | --- Kobal reaffirms himself http://www.antarctic-press.com/ | ***QUESTION EVERYTHING*** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:42:05 -0500 (EST) From: Casca Subject: Re: IN> [DARK VICTORY] Archival and Places On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > >I'll say. I've lost count of how many email are sitting on my mail spool > >with the DV header. And this is -with- judicious deletion. > > Oddly enough, I have a larger mailspool quota than account quota. This is why I have 400+ pieces of email sitting there...I can cram more stuff this way. ;) > Latter is probably fine, just so long as someone's doing it... Of course. I'm glad to see you HTML'd that Lilim piece I forwarded. (Silly Archangel, writing something good and not putting it on your website!) > >Any word yet from the Council regarding my petition for the word of > >Continuity Tracking? > > If you can make sense of all this... I'd say it's a shoe-in! But Seraphs of Archives don't -wear- shoes...there's no place to put them on our Celestial form, and we never leave the library.... Or did you mean 'shoo-in' ;;;) (I'm allowed to nitpick about grammar; it's part of my Choir Attunement.) - -- Casca, Seraph of Archives (bertishg@db.erau.edu) "...I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of His robe filled the temple. Above Him were seraphs, each with six wings: with two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying...At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook, and the temple was filled with smoke." -- Isaiah 6:2,4 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:40:38 -0600 (CST) From: redneck@txdirect.net (Redneck Gaijin) Subject: Re: IN> [DARK VICTORY] Places - West Coast >>>I wonder what's going on in Montana, the Dakotas, and British Colombia. >>>Those will be largely untouched by disasters. >> >>The Dakotas, and indeed the plains from Calgary down to Oklahoma City, have >>a unique problem; that's where Vapula unleashed Project: Carnosaur, Subject: >>Velociraptor. >> >That might cause problems.... I'm assuming that they'll be able to survive >the winter or do they migrate? > They migrate a bit, but snow doesn't bother them much. 'Raptors are warm-blooded. >>As for Montana, someone else is trying to persuade me that life goes on as >>normal... I'm trying to figure out where they get the bullets from to keep >>it that way. >> >Um... They'd make them. I don't even think that they'd have to resort to >black powder. There are probably plenty of people there and in northern >Idaho who can make modern gun poweder. Then there are the natives who may >have other kinds of help. Well, thing here is, melting lead is easy, making powder is easy, but manufacturing cartridges and percussion caps isn't quite so easy. Personally, I think those who bow-hunt will have a distinct advantage in the long run... }:-{D >>As for British Columbia, I'd be very concerned about Vancouver Island... >>wish I knew more firsthand about its geology... >> >Hmmm.... I've only been there a couple of times. I don't *think* that >it's volcanic. Most of the population lives in the low areas though. Once >they get cleaned up from the disaster, the Island would probably be a >pretty nice place to live. Unless it got Celestialed. Not much industry, >that I can recall, so its isolation may be a bit of a problem. As someone else has pointed out, Vancouver City is sitting right beneath a volcano. So it's crispy critter. Redneck Kris Overstreet, will write for food... | Do not taunt Happy Fun Belial. http://www.txdirect.net/users/redneck | * * * c/o White Lightning Productions | "I love the sweet smell of http://www.jurai.net/~redneck/wlp/ | humiliation in the morning!" Webmaster for Antarctic Press | --- Kobal reaffirms himself http://www.antarctic-press.com/ | ***QUESTION EVERYTHING*** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 00:02:11 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Kinney Subject: Re: IN> [DV] Cities After the Apocalypse On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Redneck Gaijin wrote (but not all of this...): > >>And what about all the volcanoes around that area? I know Mt. St. Helens > >>isn't the only one... > >I don't remember. I can think of about 5-6 in the Oregon/Washington area > >but there are probably more. Most of the mountains are uplift mountains I saw something about volcanos on one of those educational cable channels, around the time Dante's Peak/Volcano were coming out. They mentioned, apart from St. Helens, Mts. Hood and Ranier. > Last I looked, uplift mountains -are- volcanic, the magma just cooled before > it broke the surface. > Anyway, I keep getting quoted the numbers 'dozens' and 'hundreds' when I > look up volcanoes on the Northwest coast. The Cascades are loaded with 'em- > I remember that from my geography class. > Yep -- keep in mind that the west coast of North America makes up part of the "Ring of Fire". To bring this at least slightly back on topic, who here sees this as a way Gabriel gets back involved in things on Earth (sorry, I must confess to not paying *that* much attention to DV, thinking I'd catch the whole shebang on a website later -- but what I've taken the time to actually look at is *neat* -- so if Gabriel isn't around anymore and I don't know it, well, there you go)? alberich@iglou.com | Mark Kinney | http://www.iglou.com/nations "This, I suppose, is the logical extension of having a pizza sent to someone that didn't order it?" -- Me, don't ask why. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:04:21 -0700 (MST) From: Kingsley Lintz Subject: Re: IN> Fighting and forces > At 7:03 PM -0700 11/1/97, Kingsley Lintz wrote: > [Claws] > > I read it as just having a +1 Power, but consider that with only 1 > >point in it, you're going to have a hard time invoking the stupid Incidentally, I re-read it and looked at the words AFTER, "a Power of +1" and noticed that they were, "..for every level of this ability", so as near as I can tell, it's both. If you've got Claws/6, you attack with a Power of 6... > >dance bit, but also because you don't have a very good roll for it. > >(C'mon, a basic Angel with CorpF3 is going to have to get a 4 or less..) > This is why you do the song and dance routine some half-hour or more > before you think you're going to need it. (My character wanders through Which is dandy when you THINK you're going to need it, but what about, say, an hour before you're ready to go out, when some Cherub thug beats down your door? ("Time out, darnit!" "Er, hey, before you beat me to a pulp, how about I...sing for you?") {We're also wondering just how these song and dance routines come out. MaBarry's proposing "Camptown Races" (rather, "Camptown Fingernails"). I'm edging for something from "Cats".} > Boston late at night -- but before she leaves the party for home, she > Sings herself Claws. She's been known to take a whole hour to make > the *&%*&^ things show up. I raised her skill level recently, though.) "And...snikt! Snikt, I said. Darnit, fingers..." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 00:15:30 -0600 (CST) From: redneck@txdirect.net (Redneck Gaijin) Subject: IN> [DV] Novalis, Angel of Flowers, Master of Comfortors Business goes on in the capitol of the Lone Star State, even when the nation that state had been a part of lay in ashes. Austin's Metro buses were running again, now that oil trucks and trains were making their way in from the refineries in Houston. Still, the fuel was no longer cheap- in fact it was rationed- and so, despite the rate hike to $1.50 for a one-way trip, the buses were seeing more passengers than they'd ever had before the Apocalypse. As Walter McNeely, a middle-management drone working in the still-intact Temple Inland building on Congress Street, stepped off the bus, a Mexican family, husband, wife, and three children all with heavy packs on their backs, walked up to him. "Sir, do you have it the bus fare? My family has been walking here from Laredo... my daughter is sick from the water at the lake at San Antonio..." The youngest daughter looked sick indeed; her face looked blotched and reddened, speckled with hideous black spots. She looked at McNeely with half-glazed eyes, only dimly aware of the affluent man in front of her. McNeely walked quickly away, ignoring the pleas of the refugees, not quite trotting across Congress Street to get away from them. As he reached the sidewalk just in front of the boarded-up doors (the glass had shattered in the earthquake), he heard the Mexican-accented voices thanking someone very profusely. He turned around to see a middle-aged woman, grey streaking long golden hair, wearing sunglasses, a worn-out pink sweatshirt and torn blue jeans, handing the father several US greenbacks while the mother cried with joy. The daughter's face had mysteriously cleared up, and the child smiled happily at the strange woman, eyes clear and shining in the reddish light of the dust-filled Texas skies. As McNeely watched, the woman walked across the street, directly towards him, looking straight at him with the same expression his mother used when he'd disappointed her somehow. When she got close enough to speak without shouting, she said, "It would have taken you nothing but a few dollars to help them, you know." "Why should I want to help them?" McNeely grumbled back defensively. "Times are hard all over, we need to look out for our own." "Your own, as you put it, is all humanity," the woman answered softly, a faint note of sadness undercutting her melodic voice. "For all you know, that little girl could, in time, have the key to saving this world from our folly." "Oh, lemme go, you damn liberal," McNeely grumbled. "You're wasting my time. Get a job and learn about who 'our own' really is..." He turned his back on the woman, growling, "Wait until you've seen a bit of real life before you-" The woman grabbed McNeely's arm and spun him around effortlessly. As he swayed for balance, she reached up and pulled her sunglasses down; behind him, where her eyes should have been, there were two glowing knots of incarnadine crystal, surrounded by dried blood. "I've seen a lot of real life," the angel growled. "What have -you- seen, mister? I've seen the pits of Hell itself. I've been tortured in ways so horrible your human mind couldn't comprehend. I've seen people that might have been saints condemned to final destruction in the charnel pits of Abaddon paraded past me as my soul was slowly, slowly ripped apart, piece by tiny piece." She shoved McNeely back, placing her sunglasses back over her eyes. "And if I can still find pity in my heart for the people who did that to me, then by the Almighty you can find a little for those who have done nothing to you. Good day, sir, and I hope your conscience rests easy." With that, she marched up Congress, body trembling with barely suppressed rage, long legs striding briskly up the hill towards the Capitol. McNeely was late to work that morning... NOVALIS, CHERUBIM OF FLOWERS, MASTER OF COMFORTERS in service to Lucifer (former Archangel) CORPOREAL FORCES - 6 (Str 15, Agi 9) ETHERIAL FORCES - 5 (Int 12, Pre 8) CELESTIAL FORCES - 5 (Will 12, Perception 8) Vessel: Human/2 (middle-aged Caucasian woman) (+2 Charisma (motherly)) Songs: All/6 Skills: All/6 Discord: Angry/2, Vestigium/2 (crystal eyes) Servants: various Attunements: Seraph of Flowers, Cherub of Flowers, Ofanite of Flowers, Elohite of Flowers, Malakim of Flowers, Mercurian of Flowers, Cherub of Light, Ofanite of Light, Nothing but Flowers, I Will Fear No Evil Distinctions: Master of Comforters (and all lesser of Light) Special Rite: Sleep alone in a garden, park or other verdant location, from sunset to sunrise. The world is a garden; we must work to replant what the despoilers have uprooted, bringing peace and healing to the world. Novalis is no longer an Archangel, quite; her soul still bears the hideous wounds of her brief captivity in Abaddon, her Word is in disarray, and most of her former Servitors are dead, captive or in Limbo. Her heart has been tortured almost to the breaking point... ... but in spite of all she's been through, she hasn't given up. Novalis has been concentrating her efforts on the one peaceful (mostly), stable (generally) place on Earth- Texas. (Funny place, the post-Apocalyse world...) There's just so much to do right there, refugees to help, sick and wounded to heal, and hardened hearts to break down and open up to their fellow beings. Novalis still has a few Servitors, to whom she can still grant Choir (and Band, now) Attunements and her old 'Nothing but Flowers' attunement. She can no longer grant Distinctions or Rites. She also may not be Summoned, as her reduced power renders her unable to appear instantly where summoned. She's slowed in other ways as well; where once she was energetic, sunny and cheerful, now she is quiet, deliberate, and occasionally very, VERY angry. Her ordeals have left their mark in more than one way. The scars left by the horrors she witnessed in Hell express themselves in the hard gemstones which manifest in her Vessels instead of eyes. The grief she felt, and still feels, at being so helpless to assist the dead souls condemned universally to Hell have left her with a quiet fury at those who cannot be troubled to reach out to those in need. (Stats listed where they are changed from those in the IN Rulebook.) *NOTE: All of Novalis' Servitors serve Lucifer before her. As such, they have his Choir or Band Attunements first, his Basic Rites, the ability to Summon him, and access to his Servitor Attunements and Distinctions. CHOIR/BAND ATTUNEMENTS (for neo-Angels) *NOTE: All Servitors of Flowers are Servitors of Light first. Characters who choose to serve Novalis must buy her Choir or Band Attunement as they would the Choir or Band Attunement of another Choir or Band under the same Superior. Servitors of Novalis must buy their own Choir/Band's Attunement before buying any others. BALSERAPHS - Since Lucifer doesn't accept Balseraphs, neither does Novalis. DJINN - Again, since Lucifer does not accept Djinn without Redeeming them into Cherubim, Novalis has no Djinn Servitors. CALABIM - Calabim of Flowers destroy using the power of plant life; they may accelerate the growth of seeds or plant life around an object to be demolished, ripping it apart in seconds. *USING THIS ATTUNEMENT TO KILL ANYTHING WILL GET THE USER KICKED OUT OF NOVALIS' SERVICE.* HABBALAH - Habbalah of Flowers, in a Bright twist on their innate Resonance, can sense which emotion would heal their victim and unleash it upon them. If the Victom resists with a Will roll, these Habbalah 'bliss out,' their reality distorted by the positive emotion, for a number of hours equal to the original check digit of the Resonance roll. LILIM - Lilim of Novalis gain Essence for Geasing a victim into helping someone in need -personally.- (Donating money to a charity doesn't count- any gift or action must be -personal,- face to face interaction on the behalf of the unfortunate.) IMPUDITES - An Impudite of Flowers may steal Essence from a plant of 5 or more Forces- usually large trees, but also colonies of kudzu, berry tangles, and other large colonies of plant life. SERVITOR ATTUNEMENTS NOTHING BUT FLOWERS - as per the IN book. This is Novalis' only remaining Servitor Attunement. DISTINCTIONS - NONE RELATIONS Since she is no longer an Archangel, Novalis' opinions and prejudices have little weight in the Seraphim Council or in the greater efforts of New Heaven. However, she does have her preferences among the Superiors of New Heaven. Although she is extremely friendly to most of them, she is reluctant to open her heart to Andrealphus, who is more of a pillager than planter in her eyes, and to Nybbas, who is less interested in healing and bringing peace to Mankind than in getting his messages out to them. ALLIED: Lucifer, Eli ASSOCIATED: Yves, Lilith, Gabriel HOSTILE: Andrealphus CONVERSE RELATIONS (how the others feel about Novalis) ALLIED: Lucifer, Eli ASSOCIATED: Nybbas, Yves HOSTILE: Gabriel, Andrealphus BASIC RITES: None. CHANCE OF INVOCATION: Novalis may not be Summoned. --- Redneck Kris Overstreet, will write for food... | Do not taunt Happy Fun Belial. http://www.txdirect.net/users/redneck | * * * c/o White Lightning Productions | "I love the sweet smell of http://www.jurai.net/~redneck/wlp/ | humiliation in the morning!" Webmaster for Antarctic Press | --- Kobal reaffirms himself http://www.antarctic-press.com/ | ***QUESTION EVERYTHING*** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:24:23 -0700 (MST) From: Kingsley Lintz Subject: Re: IN> [DV] Cities After the Apocalypse > >And as we know, velociraptors travel in packs... > > That's what pipe bombs and mortars are for. According to the movie, actually, that's what the uneven bars are for. Go figure. (Great...the Idahoans give up potatos and start up a brisk trade in velociraptor luggage accessories.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:20:27 -0700 (MST) From: Kingsley Lintz Subject: Re: IN> [DV] Falling > Fall. And yes, only on the Dissonance roll, though of course a GM > could do other things within reason. (The Mercurian of Destiny > draws a bead on someone with the sniper gun -- he's only going > to shoot the thing out of someone's hand. He rolls 666. He hits > the fellow with the mega-Bright Destiny. Dead. The GM might be > able to rule that he Falls right there...) Man...that could be annoying to have to roleplay. *Blam* "Whoops. Oh, darnit, hey...well, hell with it, they were just toys anyway. What're you guys looking at me like that for?" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:17:13 -0700 (MST) From: Kingsley Lintz Subject: Re: IN> About Shedim... > >above question is 'yes', in which case even THAT won't clue them). If and > >when they finally realize where the Shedite is, he's back to full hit > >points! > Evil, aren't they? Yes, Shedim need sneaky angels to deal > with them. But toss a few Seraphim of Destiny at them and watch Granted, there are always specialists...but it IS kind of a problem, given that a group of Angels has to be READY for Shedim to have any real hope of even effecting the little snits. I don't know...I've always preferred the idea that Shedim and Kyriotates SHOULD be a little more susceptible to Celestial attack than most. They don't `anchor' in their hosts the way everyone else does, so it should be possible to pry them loose. (Kind of a tradeoff for having a comparatively infinite supply of hosts. When a Cherub gets his Vessel blown to bits, he has to go explain what happened and politely ask for a new one, or build it himself. When a Shedim gets his Host killed, he just hops to a new one.) > >every time I wanna get him under control. :) Plus, it certainly doesn't > >apply to ALL Shedim...anyone got any advice? > Anything that has to do with Intelligence... Songs of Charm, say? The Song of Celestial Charm would work -GREAT-, I'd say. (Knock his Will down until he's bouncing off even that heavenhound Servant your Malakim thought he was being so clever to pick up with a Will/1...) But it doesn't really help the problem..it's another, "Shedim hunters can do this," but if the group ISN'T ready for Shedim, the GM either 1) can't use them, 2) has to use them deliberately badly, or 3) has just rammed the players into a scenario they can't win, which isn't entirely fair. {It'd be like sending them against the dragon that can only be killed by the Great Axe of Heybattah, knowing full well that none of them spent their character points on that particular artifact, and just shrugging and saying, "Well, guess you're hosed, then. Gosh."} ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:45:13 +0000 From: "Nathaniel Eliot" Subject: Re: IN> [DARK VICTORY] Places - West Coast > >That might cause problems.... I'm assuming that they'll be able to survive > >the winter or do they migrate? > > > They migrate a bit, but snow doesn't bother them much. 'Raptors are > warm-blooded. So are we, and running around with no clothing in snowy conditions ain't good for us. They lack fur or heavy fat layers to trap body heat - either they stay in a warm place, or they (most likely) die. > >Um... They'd make them. I don't even think that they'd have to resort to > >black powder. There are probably plenty of people there and in northern > >Idaho who can make modern gun poweder. Then there are the natives who may > >have other kinds of help. > > Well, thing here is, melting lead is easy, making powder is easy, > but manufacturing cartridges and percussion caps isn't quite so > easy. Cartridges can be rehammered and refilled. I don't know enough about guns to say if the percussion caps problem has a back-woods solution, though. > Personally, I think those who bow-hunt will have a distinct > advantage in the long run... }:-{D Well, unless they set up some way of mass-producing bullets again, it's still going to make sense. But you use bullets for the important stuff, like the Jerseys and Velociraptors. > As someone else has pointed out, Vancouver City is sitting right > beneath a volcano. > > So it's crispy critter. You've said that about a lot of cities, more or less. Did every bad thing that was geologically possible happen, or have some cities that were near faults or volcanoes survived? Nathaniel Eliot temujin9@ix.netcom.com In the fourth grade, Mrs. Watkins gave me a D in Mathematics. I was not a happy camper. Now she's a blood thirsty demon from the seventh plane of hell, and I have a Mini gun with 2000 rounds of HESH ammo. Mrs. Watkins...Class is back in session. - Heavy Ordinance (http://members.iquest.net/~ericg/games/heavy.html) ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #456 ******************************* The material here is (C) 1997 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.