From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Thu Jul 31 20:32:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA30600 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:32:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA21550 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:43:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:43:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199707312343.SAA21550@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #270 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Thursday, July 31 1997 Volume 01 : Number 270 In this digest: Re: IN> Questions about Lilim Re: IN> Angels & Religion Re: IN> Questions about Lilim IN> As the Malakite was drinking coffee.. Re: IN> Crossovers Re: IN> Acts of God (was Dominic is not a Bad Guy) Re: IN> Crossovers Re: IN> Questions about Lilim Re: IN> As the Malakite was drinking coffee.. Re: IN> Questions about Lilim Re: IN> As the Malakite was drinking coffee.. Re: IN> Is Reality Subjective? re:IN> Know your Diabloicals 15 Christopher Re: IN> As the Malakite was drinking coffee.. (fwd) Re: IN> Questions about Lilim IN> Resisting Geasa IN> Know your Diabloicals 15 Christopher IN> Know Your Enemies 16 Fluerity IN> Know your Enemies 12 Novalis Re: IN> Questions about Lilim Re: IN> Crossovers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:12:31 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Questions about Lilim At 12:40 PM -0400 7/30/97, Emily K. Dresner wrote: >> >My argument is that the Lilim were never Angels that Fell, so some part of >> >them, when created, still hears the True Symphony. The world must be cool >> >and funky for Lilim. >> >> That's what I've been thinking, aye. Have you seen the INC web-pages >> yet? The stuff about "Know Thy Enemy" has some stuff in it regarding >> what Lilim perceive, IMAO. };) > >I read it. It's kewl, with a K. Thank you. Remind me to shower you with even more of my Lilim stuff. };) >Lilim don't strike me as particularly evil. (Open can of worms...) Oh, yeesh, have you seen the digest backissues about Lilim/Lilith and how Evil or not? I happen to agree with you -- they start out *selfish*, and then there's that window of opportunity where they might start seeing humans as something more than playthings... But with angels ready to pound them on one side, Balseraphs lying on the other, and Princes expecting loyalty and human-corrupting... They learn fast that the world won't give them any free lunches, and soon it's nearly "every girl for herself." [...] >But Lilim are different. They've never had that chance to actually work >for Good, and then reject it and get kicked out. And they're trapped by >Geas. Worse, even if they wanted to leave, there's no where to go. >Angels won't believe them (and trust me, my PCs like to kill demons or >anything they perceive as being 'bad'), and if they try to run, they're >just going to get tracked down by Azzie and he buds. And even if they *do* find some way to get snug in with some angels (does groveling work?), if they've got any Geasa on 'em, Azzie just goes to Mom and buys a few, and then says, "Hey, you, yeah, you, the Renegade. C'mere. Got a Geas here says you're comin' wit' me." And the next thing you know the Renegade is crucified in the middle of Shal-mari as an object lesson to any other Daughters (or other demons) who might be thinking about going Bright. >Man, you can run an entire campaign called Lilim: The Angst. I know. Little ethereal gods, but isn't it *wonderful*?? >> >> Well, it involves Forces. And maybe some other tricks... >> >> [Lilith going off and having a stable of demons and a horde of kids] > >Yeah! That comes back to what I originally said - maybe Lilim is getting >together with some Demon Princes on the side. I hear that some people >think sex is sinful, hell is full of sinners, and the Demon Princes are >the worst... :) Or maybe the *best*... Well, if you believe Andre, that is. >> It probably depends on how she collects the forces, etc. I >> see no problem with collecting them in, ah, an intimate manner... > >Well, as long as everyone is having a good time. *waggle finger* :) Hey, there's gotta be a reason that Andre's got an "Allied" relation with Lilith, right? >************************************************************************** > >Topic #2: > >> >I'm not sure how they would handle this. Maybe Betrayal is sort of like >> >in the Mob novels I'm so fond of, where they do something unbelievably >> >nasty to you, like tie you to a chair and leave you listening to the Best >> >of Yanni for days on end. >> >> Hey, some people *like* Yanni! Well, some Yanni. You want to >> drive me frothing, you play "If I could change the world" or >> "Give me one reason" until I develop the Berserk Discord... > >I can see the Lilim leading their sister into a room, chaining her to a >bed, and putting on the headphones that play John Tesh over and over >again.... the headphones keep the sound from leaking out, since they don't >want to harm the INNOCENT. :) Rap. Rap music. Or anything that's utterly sexist. Maybe old Disney stuff -- the Cinderella soundtrack, for instance... >Or maybe they'll just force that Lilim to dress really badly for a week. Hm... Go play "Truth or Geas," and have her go flirt with the Servitors of Judgment at the Hellmouth Gates... (Can't you just see a cluster of giggling young Lilim pushing each other towards that pair, daring each other to get closer, talk to them, try to steal a kiss...) >> >Or they just scorn you for a while. But I can see Lilim being >> >pretty tolerant of, "Oh, that was because of a Geas. >> >Yeah, well, happens to everyone." >> >> And then muttering, "But you didn't have to enjoy it so much." };) > >Yeah, well, I bet there was a really cute looking human involved here, and >you know, you just GOTTA do yer job sometimes. :) And if you aren't doing your job with all your heart, it's dissonant, right? Riiiiiiight.... - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com // emccoy@jade.mv.net GURPS characters, Roleplayers; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:52:10 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Angels & Religion At 2:21 PM -0400 7/30/97, Adam Canning wrote: >Samniga's write up in Night Music Throws the relitavistic styles out the >window with The Demon Prince of Death being respopnsible for egyptian >funeral methods. Just the part about taking the brains out before preserving the corpse... The rest of it, he just found, didn't make. - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com // emccoy@jade.mv.net GURPS characters, Roleplayers; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:36:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Bowman Subject: Re: IN> Questions about Lilim On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, John Karakash - Lucent ASCC wrote: > On Jul 29, 1:58pm, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > > Subject: Re: IN> Questions about Lilim > > At 10:03 AM -0400 7/29/97, John Karakash - Lucent ASCC wrote: > > > > > > Hey, this brings up something... are you gonna write up > > >something with the Lilith Fair (I think that's what it's called... > > >that fem-performer music thing that's going around the country.) > > >C'mon, _someone_ has to do something with this! > > > > Huh? I'd love to, but know nothing about it. :-( > > Heck, it's actually going to be in _my town_ this week! > I have some friends going (I, alas, can't make it) and I'll see > if they can remember to bring back some literature. I went to the Salem OR show two weeks ago. Lilith Fair is one the traveling music shows (like Lollapalooza). It's female singer-songwriters only however. Sarah McLachlan has organized it and is the only person playing all 35 shows. Other performers include Suzanne Vega, Jewel, Tracy Chapman, Joan Osboarne, Paula Cole, Fiona Apple, Cassandra Wilson, Leah Andreone, Wild Colonials, The Cardigans, and many others. Michael Bowman bvmi@odin.cc.pdx.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:53:56 +0100 (BST) From: maya@tcp.co.uk (GR Cogman) Subject: IN> As the Malakite was drinking coffee.. .. a Calabite walked into the bar. And the Malakite of Blandine threw the sugarbowl into his face. "Sweet dreams." Followed by fist, foot, and a few other things.. And the Malakite of David leaned back against the counter, smirked, and began telling the story of the Calabite, the Lilim, and the three talking sheep, which for some reason caused the Calabite to begin howling and launch an attack.. And the Malakite of Dominic levelled his gun. "You have been judged. The sentence is death." And the Malakite of Eli tossed his mug of coffee at the Calabite, vaulted over the bar, tore a stool from the floor, used it as a bat to knock the Calabite into the wall, smushed a slice of cake in his face, used a set of saucers as deadly chakrams.. And the Malakite of Gabriel manifested green flaming claws as he leaped upon the Calabite, causing several bystanders to speculate upon the amount of caffeine in that mug.. And the Malakite of Janus - well, nobody had _seen_ him put any dynamite in that mug of coffee, but.. And the Malakite of Jean presses three keys on his laptop: the doors lock, and storm shutters seal across the windows, as he grins and rises.. And the Malakite of Jordi whistled, which was when the pack of dogs burst through the door, baying.. And the Malakite of Laurence drew his sword. He bowed to the Calabite, and was beginning the formal challenge when the table hit him. Things got messy after that. And the Malakite of Marc spins his gun. "I'll make you a deal. And the Malakite of Michael puts his hand on his gun. "Do you feel lucky, punk?" And the Malakite of Novalis And the Malakite of Yves simply put one finger in his book to mark the place. "Wait till I reach the end of the chapter." Feeling like some coffee, Maya - --- Maya, Elohim of Eli in service to Blandine maya@tcp.co.uk - -- "There are those who say that wizards are subject to temptations and addictions beyond the understanding of ordinary men: the addiction to shape-changing, or to meditation under the influence of certain herbs and conditions of the stars; the obsession with knowledge, and the development of power. Yet this is not so. Temptation is temptation, obsession is obsession, and choice is choice." - Isar Chelladan, Precepts of Wizardry. -- "Dog Wizard", Barbara Hambly. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 16:33:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Casca Subject: Re: IN> Crossovers On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, R. Coon wrote: > Just out of curiousity, if one were to make an In Nomine crossover in a > world with magic, should there be an Archangel and Prince of Magic? Most definately. Heck, I'm working on them now, for use in my WoD games. - -- Casca (bertishg@db.erau.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:32:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Shadowcat Subject: Re: IN> Acts of God (was Dominic is not a Bad Guy) On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Peter Frederick wrote: > Just a random thought. Why are disasters always "Acts of God"?? because no one else will claim responability. after a while somethings are to big for even the IRA to claim. ;-) One thing though is how else do you describe when a tornado hits only your outhouse in the entire county. (True, it happened to my Grandfather just after he got out of it, and into the root cellar.) Shadowcat ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:46:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Shadowcat Subject: Re: IN> Crossovers > I've had all kinds of evil crossover ideas, thanks to reading too much > GURPS I guess. What about IN-Toon? In anime anyone? In Nomine / Deadlands: This would be very interesting angels and demons in the old weird west trying to undo/increase the damage. Also you could get the Native American spirits into the act fighting against both sides. Shadowcat ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:02:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Shadowcat Subject: Re: IN> Questions about Lilim On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, John Karakash - Lucent ASCC wrote: > On Jul 28, 7:04pm, Walter Milliken wrote: > > Subject: Re: IN> Questions about Lilim > > [johnk:] > > > Your sisterhood network sounds like a neat idea... I bet > > >you there is a _massive_ bulletin board hanging on a wall somewhere > > >in Lilith's domain just for this. > > > > Ah, John, Lilith isn't supposed to *have* a domain, at least in Hell -- > > the book says she didn't want one. > > Lowercase 'domain', not uppercase 'Principality'. (Nitpicking, > to be sure, but I have to save face somehow!) :) ;) :) Apartment? > Townhouse? Mansion? Okay, maybe not! What about a dormatory at a prestigeous school? (IOU anyone?) Shadowcat ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:20:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Davidson Subject: Re: IN> As the Malakite was drinking coffee.. On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, GR Cogman wrote: > .. a Calabite walked into the bar. > (This took me a while to come up with... but...) > And the Malakite of Novalis > ...caused the plants form the planter next to the door entangle the Calabite. Things got messy from there. > > Feeling like some coffee, > "It is by caffeine alone that I set my mind in motion..." :-) Thomas Davidson tdavidso@suffolk.lib.ny.us - -------------------- Don't panic! I have a new .sig! - -------------------- Instruction Booklet for this message: STEP 1: Open mouth. STEP 2: Insert foot. STEP 3: Chew vigorously. STEP 4: Repeat as needed. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 13:16:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Emily K. Dresner" Subject: Re: IN> Questions about Lilim > >I read it. It's kewl, with a K. > > Thank you. Remind me to shower you with even more of > my Lilim stuff. };) This is an official reminder. Shower me with more Lilim stuff. :) > >Lilim don't strike me as particularly evil. (Open can of worms...) > > Oh, yeesh, have you seen the digest backissues about Lilim/Lilith > and how Evil or not? No, I never saw them. I probably should be beaten with a wet noodle. [lots of stuff here] > And even if they *do* find some way to get snug in with some angels > (does groveling work?), if they've got any Geasa on 'em, Azzie just > goes to Mom and buys a few, and then says, "Hey, you, yeah, you, > the Renegade. C'mere. Got a Geas here says you're comin' wit' me." > And the next thing you know the Renegade is crucified in the middle > of Shal-mari as an object lesson to any other Daughters (or other > demons) who might be thinking about going Bright. Hmmm. But some Lilim DO go Bright. I would assume it's like, one in several thousand who even try, and only a few of those who make it, but it does happen. Or, possibly, there are many many more who would want to, but ya know, someone invokes that Geas and it's all over for a little while. They need a Union or something. > > >Man, you can run an entire campaign called Lilim: The Angst. > > I know. Little ethereal gods, but isn't it *wonderful*?? I need to get my hands on some PC Lilim. Now I'm cursing myself for making all my PCs be angels. :) Because there is so much PAIN involved here, it's gotta be good. > >> It probably depends on how she collects the forces, etc. I > >> see no problem with collecting them in, ah, an intimate manner... > > > >Well, as long as everyone is having a good time. *waggle finger* :) > > Hey, there's gotta be a reason that Andre's got an "Allied" relation > with Lilith, right? I still see Andre in a purple leisure suit smoking a cigar, driving a pink cadillac pimpmobile with little fuzzy balls across the top of the windshield and a plastic Lucifer on the dashboard looking out for traffic. He's the ultimate pimp. :) But, at the same time, he's the ultimate lover, too. Maybe he has a really nice pad. > >I can see the Lilim leading their sister into a room, chaining her to a > >bed, and putting on the headphones that play John Tesh over and over > >again.... the headphones keep the sound from leaking out, since they don't > >want to harm the INNOCENT. :) > > Rap. Rap music. Or anything that's utterly sexist. Maybe old > Disney stuff -- the Cinderella soundtrack, for instance... Snow White! Anything that tells them to be good little girls and do what they are told. Why can I suddenly see a Lilim deciding to take out a record store? > >Or maybe they'll just force that Lilim to dress really badly for a week. > > Hm... Go play "Truth or Geas," and have her go flirt with the > Servitors of Judgment at the Hellmouth Gates... (Can't you just > see a cluster of giggling young Lilim pushing each other towards > that pair, daring each other to get closer, talk to them, try > to steal a kiss...) I can see a group of them trailing a particularly handsome pack of angels who are on mission, just so they can get in close and get a LOOK... hmmm. Actually, maybe I'll use that. :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:32:37 -0600 (MDT) From: Kingsley Lintz Subject: Re: IN> As the Malakite was drinking coffee.. > > .. a Calabite walked into the bar. > > And the Malakite of Novalis > > > ...caused the plants form the planter next to the door entangle the > Calabite. Things got messy from there. I prefer, "...Said, `Oh, hi there.' And the Calabite blasted her chair. The Malakite of Novalis replied, `Can we talk about this?' And the Calabite narrowly missed her head with his acid spit. `No?' And the Calabite got messy from there." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 13:45:49 -0300 From: Andre Ribeiro Subject: Re: IN> Is Reality Subjective? Kabael wrote: > but if Angels are not part of the Symphony, or reality, does that > change to > effect of magick upon them? (bear with me, my IN knowledge is limited) It's my oppinion that Celestials are quite immune to Magick - at least they can really sense it and know what to do about it. Maybe when in the Corp. Plane they become more susceptible - as they are more susceptible to a punch or a gunshot... Andre ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 13:15:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Martin Leslie Leuschen Subject: re:IN> Know your Diabloicals 15 Christopher Adam Canning wrote: > Malphas: The innocent have no faction politics. How he grinds his teeth > about that. What planet did you grow up on? Regards, Martin Leuschen martinl@rice.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:13:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Shadowcat Subject: Re: IN> As the Malakite was drinking coffee.. (fwd) Here is my fiance's responce to the Malakite of Novalis. Shadowcat All cats may look upon a king. No comment on the Queen ;-) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:58:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Fran Juergensmeyer To: Shadowcat Subject: Re: IN> As the Malakite was drinking coffee.. (fwd) Lack of Malakim would make that bit more difficult. I don't really care for what Thomas Davidson came up with -- it just doesn't have any zing. How about: > .. a Calabite walked into the bar... > ...the Malakim of Novalis said, "Look, Audrey! Lunch just arrived." or ...from behind the door something large said, "Feed me, Seymour!" Fran ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:42:02 -0400 From: Charles Badger Subject: Re: IN> Questions about Lilim At 09:02 07/31/97 -0500, Shadowcat wrote: >On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, John Karakash - Lucent ASCC wrote: > >> On Jul 28, 7:04pm, Walter Milliken wrote: >> > Subject: Re: IN> Questions about Lilim >> > [johnk:] >> > > Your sisterhood network sounds like a neat idea... I bet >> > >you there is a _massive_ bulletin board hanging on a wall somewhere >> > >in Lilith's domain just for this. >> > >> > Ah, John, Lilith isn't supposed to *have* a domain, at least in Hell -- >> > the book says she didn't want one. >> >> Lowercase 'domain', not uppercase 'Principality'. (Nitpicking, >> to be sure, but I have to save face somehow!) :) ;) :) Apartment? >> Townhouse? Mansion? Okay, maybe not! > > What about a dormatory at a prestigeous school? (IOU anyone?) Nah, it would be a dormitory at a prestigious party school. Of course she keeps relocating to whichever is the current party school since she doesn't want the angels to get too suspicious of a lot of humans coming out of the schools a little more out of it from partying (actually losing a force or so willingly to Lillith's Lilim helpers. You didn't think she got the forces just from demons now did you. This would also explain the Lilim's attachment and favoring of Humans over other demons.) - ----- Charles T. Badger ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:37:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Martin Leslie Leuschen Subject: IN> Resisting Geasa Say a human ignores his a geas and takes some hits. Can he get that healed by song or doctor and continue on his merry way? Similarly, can a Celestial with 10 essence available fix the dissonance and ignore it? I'm unhappy with this, and see 2 possible fixes. 1. It isn't fixable. Simple, works, harsh. 2. Next time it happens, you get 1 more hit/Dissonance point than you got last time. More complicated, works too, not as harsh. Opinions? Martin Leuschen martinl@rice.edu Special Bonus Section: Stupid Lilim tricks # 23b: Killing with a geasa/1 If you can find some trivial task that a human would rather die than do, you can kill them with a geas/1. Example: Lita the Lilim has a Geas/1 on father Bob - an honest priest. Bob is preaching mass, Lita is serving, so she can whisper to him. Lita: "Father Bob - please shout 'Praise Satan' loudly, *right now*." (Invokes geas) [Father Bob fails his will role, not surprising in a human.] GM rules that *right now* means the time limit is about 5 seconds, but even if you limit it 1 hour (for geas/1, as implied in the book) he's going to bite it shortly. (Aside if you use the slow method: A geasa/1 is now much more deadly than a geasa/6 - the geasa/6 only bothers you once a year!) Father Bob refuses, of course, and takes a hit. Five seconds later, it happens again. He'll be dead in minutes, unless he yells 'Praise Satan', which he simply won't do. (If you limit it to one hour, he'll die more slowly, but it will still happen.) Of course, I wouldn't allow this in a game. I'd give a bonus to will for repugnant acts, have the human instinctively blow essence, and maybe up the geasa level required. I'd also give the player a hard time for even tring it, but that's another story... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 16:54:46 -0400 From: Adam Canning Subject: IN> Know your Diabloicals 15 Christopher Ooops I seem to have forgotton Christophers worst enemy #15: As delivered by a Servitor of Christopher (Children) Servitors of... =============== Fleurity: Render them down for modeling clay. They must be stiopped before they polute the minds andf bodies of the next generation. |Adam Canning Dahak@Compuserve.Com Those the Gods wish to destroy they first drive mad. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 16:54:53 -0400 From: Adam Canning Subject: IN> Know Your Enemies 16 Fluerity #16: As delivered by a Servitor of Fluerity (Drugs) The first rule: Better living through Chemistry. Choirs ====== Seraphim: Watch your step these guys have polygraphs built in. Cherubim: Almost always carry a medkit, this is the obvious thing to relabel a few bottles and change the concentration of some of the contents. Ofanim: Plenty of opportunity with these guys for Amphetamines Elohim: A perfect client for emotion suppressants Malakim:. Cops with a bad attitude, and they don’t take bribes. Burn them by giving the punters near them free samples of the more interesting pain and mood altering substances. Kyriotates: How do we addict something which leaves its body behind each week? Mercurians: Not to much problem they like recreational chemicals too much. And they help your clients recover so they can take more. Servitors of... =============== Blandine: Boring why dream when you can trip. Christopher: Stuck up little prudes, watch their faces when they realise that entire schools are on the hard stuff David: Harder prudes so wander into the community centres they so love and add interesting chemicals to the drinking water. Dominic: Like the IAD but they don’t take bribes. Eli: These guys are walking chemistry sets. They get drunk a lot too. Not much for us to worry about. Gabriel: Now their boss is on one hell of a bad trip, and they enjoy setting fire to all sorts of things. Try to arrange for them not to do it to your processing facilities. Janus: Blink and they are gone. With your stash. Jean: With out Technology where would we be. He doesn’t want the humans to know how to make all those interesting substances. They usually Know a few we haven’t seen before. Jordi: I’ve never had any success selling recreational chemicals to animals, but Vets on the other hand... Laurence: Complete boring straight arrows, luckily not to many are wandering round as cops. Litheroy: Celestial detectives, they really enjoy telling the police about what you are up to. This sort of behaviour makes them obvious targets for the traditional cement clothing. Marc: They seem to be unable to understand the basic economic principle that illegal chemical recreationals have a massive profit margin due to supply and demand Michael: Killing Machines. The only drug they use is Adrenaline. Novalis: Why don’t they like us after all it is her poppy’s that we get opium from. Yves: They can talk people out of addictions, they want people to do well for them selves. Waste them. Adam Dahak@Compuserve.Com 'This was the dreadful muscle lock so uniquely characteristic of thionite; the frenzied immobility of the ultimately passionate satisfaction of every desire, no matter how base.' :-First Lensman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 16:54:58 -0400 From: Adam Canning Subject: IN> Know your Enemies 12 Novalis - --------------------------------------------------------------------- #12: As delivered by a Servitor of Novalis (Flowers) Bands ===== Balseraphs: The things they do to their own sense of reality makes LSD look safe. Djinn: They really need a good strong cup of Herbal Tea and a few Hours Disco Dancing and They’ll be fine. Calabim: Kiatsu Massage seems to work quite well relaxing them as a start to explaining to them that their negative vibes are what screw them up. Habbalah: Since when has god’s plan included running people over with combine harvesters? Lilim: Take themselves far to seriously. If they would only slow down for a while they would realise the have sold their freedom for a Fax and an Answerphone. Shedim: Personally I blame bad upbringing. If you can get them to slow down and mellow out you’ll be fine. Most of the time all you can do is pick up the pieces. Impudites: Cuddly but selfish, If you can get them to do the washing up without asking them then you are half way there. Servitors of... =============== Alamemon: Lying is wrong, worse it disturbs the natural flow of human life. Secrets are bad too they tend to upset people. Andrealphus: Sexual activity should be for the pleasure of both partners, not the pain of either. If you can persuade them of that you are most of the way through. Asmodeus: Hell’s Fascist Pigs. Difficult to persuade to defect since they are all looking over their shoulders the whole time. Baal: Like a Poppy, bring rebirth to the charnel houses of the War. Beleth: A real bad trip man... If necessary opiates will help you avoid having to deal with them. Belial: Fireworks are fine so long as they are used safely. Dealing with the minions of Baal is like dealing with an ever spreading Ash waste. Haagenti: Grow faster than they can feed, They are a walking famine, and they have no real sense of humour. Band Aid time again. Fleurity: That is not what herbal extracts are for. That’s not what supernatural creatures are for. Certainly that isn’t something that should be encouraged at music festivals, and MDMA should never have been made. Furfur: Violent Violent Violent, you cant talk them out of their huff once a fight starts. Besides the music is barely worthy of the name so don’t dance to it. Kobal: Well they are funny, but cruel. Do what you can to stop people laughing at the hard end of the jokes and find a way to make them the butt. Kronos: They want bad Karma for every one and they have no fun doing it. Lilith: Why did she leave? The “Free” lilim have the most opportunity of all of them to redeem. It can be worth helping them work off their Geases. Malphas: Flowers do not form factions. Flowers form a unity of colours. Flowers are a lot more happy than these manic paranoids. Show them you care. Nybbas: Soundbites are as much as they can manage. Unfortunately that’s also true for many humans. These are worse than many of the others because they understand that the war is a battle for Hearts and Minds as much as Bodies Saminga: They gain naught from killing plants, but we cannot heal the undead back to life. Valefor: Hyperactive kleptomaniacs the lot of them It throws them when you give them something for nothing. The Boss wants her thousand year old bonsai collection back though. Vapula: Inhuman Cyborg Zombies marching in quick step to create a faceless future of brushed concrete and neon. And [plastic fake flowers!! Get them out in the fresh air for a start. - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Adam Canning Dahak@Compuserve.Com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 17:27:58 -0400 From: "John Karakash - Lucent ASCC" Subject: Re: IN> Questions about Lilim > I need to get my hands on some PC Lilim. Now I'm cursing myself for > making all my PCs be angels. :) Because there is so much PAIN involved > here, it's gotta be good. I have one that you might like. I'm gonna use her for other stuff (including a session at GenCon) but you can use her as well. ============================================================================ Tina Lilim Servitor of Gluttony Corporeal Forces 3 Strength 8 Agility 4 Ethereal Forces 2 Intelligence 4 Precision 4 Celestial Forces 4 Will 4 Perception 12 Vessels: Human 2/Charisma 1 (adult female) Role: Master Chef/5 (Status/5) Skills: Artistry(cooking)/6, Emote/1, Lying/1, Fighting/1, Large Weapon/5 Songs: Motion (Celestial/6) Attunements: Lilim of Gluttony, Consume Discord: Celestial Blindness/6 Artifact: Timon (made up with the new artifact rules) Longsword (Sword/1) 2 Summonable for 1 Essence 4 Automatically detectable as an artifact -3 Description: A slightly tallish (5'10") woman with light auburn hair and stunning green eyes. Though she spends much of her time in a chef's uniform, it doesn't disguise the fact that she is a curvaceous, and desireable, woman. Which is just how she likes it... ;) History: Tina took service with Haagenti to learn what he knew of cooking and has improved her skill tremendously since then. With a single-minded purpose that is almost frightening she has dedicated herself to the culinary arts (she intends on being the Demon of Gourmet Food one day... she may well make it.) When she can spare the time, she prefers to butcher the meat herself and has been known to go 'hunting' for all manner of odd creatures. She hasn't done this lately as it does not fit the image of her new role. Her current role is that of Chef Tina (no last name as befits an artist of her caliber). A relative newcomer to the cooking scene, she has gained reknown in some circles with startling rapidity. Even some hard-nosed critics that hate women/newcomers/americans have written excellent reviews after eating her cooking (her attunement came in handy here...) Oddly enough for a demon, she deserves the praise. Tina has established a reputation for being a bit 'eccentric' and unwilling to accept a permanent position. Occasionally she will consent to cook for important businessmen or heads of state, gathering Favors as she goes. With her Status, she has enough money to cater to any Earthly whims she has for she is _very_ much in demand among those who enjoy good food... and can afford it. She spends much of her time in the corporeal realm due to a troubling condition. Somehow, someone, managed to give her a celestial poison that is gradually eating away at her celestial vision. To stave this off, she traded almost all of her favors to Haagenti to stabilize the poison, though he hasn't cured the blindness yet. - -- ___________________________________________________ / \ |John Karakash - Lucent Technologies (formerly AT&T) | | (919)380-4629 | | | | The power to tax involves the power to destroy. | | -Chief Justice Marshall | \___________________________________________________/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:38:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Kim Foster Subject: Re: IN> Crossovers At 08:46 AM 7/31/97 -0500, you wrote: > > >> I've had all kinds of evil crossover ideas, thanks to reading too much >> GURPS I guess. > This is a little off topic but I wanted to ask. Has anyone considered and/or played an campaign where the War was less than secret, maybe even well known among the mortal population? I was thinking of a world like Peirs Anthony's Incarnations of Immortality series with Heaven and Hell openly seeking peoples hearts, minds and Souls. Well...just a thought. > > What sick person put an "S" in lisp? ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #270 ******************************* The material here is (C) 1997 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.