From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Fri May 1 22:12:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA07520 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 22:12:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id VAA29630 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Fri, 1 May 1998 21:16:31 -0500 Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 21:16:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199805020216.VAA29630@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #745 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Friday, May 1 1998 Volume 01 : Number 745 In this digest: IN> The Angel of Car Wrecks Re: IN> Identifying ensouled beings SV: IN> Question about Motion (Celestial) Re: IN> Double Agents Re: IN> The Demon of Gun Control Re: IN> The Demon of Gun Control Re: IN> Fade: GM: Ch1 15l: An Email while you speak Re: IN> Upsetting Dominic Re: IN> Abortion Angels Re: IN> The Demon of Gun Control Re: IN> Angels & Gun Control Re: IN> Upsetting Dominic IN> New angelic PBEM Re: SV: IN> Question about Motion (Celestial) Re: IN> Double Agents IN> More (but different) random strangeness Re: IN> Upsetting Dominic Re: IN> Upsetting Dominic Re: IN> More (but different) random strangeness Re: IN> More (but different) random strangeness IN> Superiors and (mutable?) Celestial form Re: IN> The Demon of Gun Control ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 14:42:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Knop Subject: IN> The Angel of Car Wrecks Tragan The Angel of Car Wrecks Ofanite Vassal of the Wind, in service to Lightning Corporeal Forces: 5 (Strength 8 Agility 12) Ethereal Forces: 4 (Intelligence 9 Precision 7) Celestial Forces: 3 (Will 5 Perception 7) Vessels: Human/5 Role: Alan Lu, consulting engineer/4 (Status/3) Songs: Healing (Corporeal/6), Light (Corporeal/2, Ethereal/3), Motion (Corporeal/3, Ethereal/2, Celestial/4) Skills: Dodge/2, Driving/6, Electronics/3, Engineering/5, Knowledge (Automobiles/6), Lockpicking/3, Medicine/3 Attunements: Ofanite of the Wind, Passage (Wind), Vassal of the Wind, Malakite of Lightning Special Rites: Participate in any automobile accident involving more than five vehicles; save the life of somebody involved in an automobile accident When Tragan was first assigned to Earth this century, like many of his choir he quickly learned to love the practice of recklessly driving automobiles. He didn't understand his true calling, however, until the first time he flipped an automobile and sent it tumbling over an embankment. At the end of that incident, he is reported to have looked over at the battered and shell-shocked Cherub of Lightning sitting in the passenger seat and to have said, "Hey, cool! Let's do that again!" Charged by his archangel to sew chaos through the world, Tragan had found his means. Blowing up abandoned buildings and inciting friendly riots he left to his fellow servitors of the Wind. Tragan began driving across the countryside causing fender-benders, pileups, and a vast quantity of nervewracking near-misses. Not only would he cause as much automotive mayhem as possible himself, but he would also seek out accidents which had happened of their own accord, to witness, critique, learn, and, to a greater and greater degree as time went by, help out. Tragan could be found at the scenes of huge accidents pulling victims out of cars, helping paramedics with triage, applying splints and other first aid, and, when nobody else was looking, using the Corporeal Song of Healing on those who would not otherwise have survived. Tragan is one of a rare breed: a Word-bound angel with a distinction who is on loan to another archangel. After Tragan was given his Word, Jean saw in him a good (and perhaps ironic) conduit for tempering the destructive nature of automotive technology on Earth. The information he could gain by observing how cars performed in real accidents could be useful to the next generation of safety features. This is the end of Tragan's current Role. He is an itinerant and independent safety engineer, on contract to several automobile manufacturers. He travels the countryside watching accidents (and, unknown to them, causing accidents), and returning the performance information about various models of cars, along with suggested improvements, to the car companies. Most of those who work with Alan Lu (the name Tragan uses in his role) consider the consulting engineer to be, at the very least, eccentric. They see Lu as disheveled and manic, although startlingly bright. The wiry Asian man is just the sort to be seen with a large ink stain on the front of his shirt where he failed to replace the cap on a pen stored in his shirt pocket. Though his colleagues think he's odd, they've come to like the hyperactive but amusing engineer who is filled with an amazing joie de vivire. They are just glad that they don't have to do his job, always on the go, never able to settle down in one place, looking for the next major unexpected automotive pileup. === Rob Knop === rknop@crl.com ==== http://www.wco.com/~rknop === Amiga PGP information at http://www.wco.com/~rknop/amiga_pgp Visit the Dramatic Exchange at http://www.dramex.org/ ================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 00:37:10 +0100 (BST) From: Warsinger Subject: Re: IN> Identifying ensouled beings Been following this debate with interest, and lurking for a bit and just thought I'd briefly unlurk to add my bit. Was reading some In Nomine stuff last night and I remember reading something about the pregnancy being the time it takes for the Forces that compose a human soul to gather together. Ok, I read both stuff on the Net as well as Heaven and Hell and the main book - so I'm not claiming this as canon, but I really like this idea, it seems to make a lot of sense. I like the Dream version too - but then Blandine is one of the Archangels I really like, so that's not surprising. Btw - not got the Liber Reliqium(sp?) - can I have a brief summary of the Song of Symphony - oh yeah - and what do you think of that book overall? Warsinger Cute and fluffy....(with claws) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 01:40:05 +0200 From: "Jens Alm" Subject: SV: IN> Question about Motion (Celestial) >Give the victim a Strength roll, much as he'd get if you tried to >grab something away from him? > >I think canon is that you *can't* teleport yourself (or anything else) >into a solid object. (It's just too much of a headache otherwise.) > >But for a house-rule... A Strength roll, a minimum check digit to >make it work, or something like that ought to help. If the roll is >made, then the object appears somewhere nearby... *Very* nearby. Maybe >even overhead... > >(Ah, it's the Anvil trick!) In my game, I've ruled that you can't celestially move anything into direct harm, ie 200 yards up in the air or inside a wall, etc. My motivation is that you cannot create disturbance with celestial movement (more than it creates itself) as it works with the symphony, not against it. The real motivation is of course to stop my players from teleporting people 200 yards up in the air :). /Jens Alm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 16:51:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: Re: IN> Double Agents - ---Pee Kitty wrote: > > > ---Anders Gabrielsson wrote: > > I thought Gabriel noticed that the Essence used in summoning her was > > generated by a non-Fire Rite. > > Of course, Gabriel always seemed to embody intuition and random insight; > she might not have been able to tell that about the essence...she might > have just KNOWN it. She's weird like that...brilliant and crazy. > > > Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian > Meow! Just like you, Rev. Kitty? ;) Graveyard Greg _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 16:53:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: Re: IN> The Demon of Gun Control - ---Pee Kitty wrote: > > > I would just like to say that that is just IYHO, but not all of us feel > the same way. I personally agree that an angel who supports abortion as > birth control or stricty for convenience is very hard to justify, since > both of those things are a loss of (potential or actual)* life for purely > selfish reasons. But that doesn't mean there can't be angels who support > abortion, when used properly, and try to educate the public so that it can > be yet another normal medical procedure, done for the right reasons; such > an angel would work against the casual, "I can just abort" attitude that > is prevalent among some people, and try to stop all the kneejerk reactions > that the topic brings up (so far I haven't seen any flamebait from this, > but you know it just takes ONE mail to get it started...people seem to be > so FANATICAL about this issue). Interesting how it went from The Demon of Gun Control to the Angel of Abortion...I think the Demon of Changing Subjects had something to do with this... Just an observation, mind you...I ain't gettin' into the Abortion discussion either! Graveyard Greg _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 16:58:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: Re: IN> The Demon of Gun Control - ---David Edelstein wrote: > > >>>I cannot agree. Not *any* topic. For my tastes, that's liberalising > Heaven a little too much. In the example of abortion, any angel > advocating the pro-choice approach should be well on his way to Falling, > IMHO. Although IN is played in various shades, there are some things > that are seen by Heaven as simply being 'wrong', and abortion has to be > one of them. Its murder after all. The ability of one human to knowingly > and willingly extinguish the life of another, and, even more, a complete > innocent at that (unless you believe in Original Sin).<<< > > > That's all very interesting....and your subjective opinion. You're > basically quoting the pro-life position and then stating for a fact that it > must be correct (or seen by Heaven as being correct). > > The Angels and Demons of Abortion will be appearing shortly.... > > -David > Doesn't Gustav's Dictionary of Angels, from A to Z have a name for an Angel of Abortion? I can just see the responses to the forthcoming Angel and Demon of Abortion... *groan* Graveyard Greg _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 17:09:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: Re: IN> Fade: GM: Ch1 15l: An Email while you speak - ---ehp wrote: > As yet we have no plans of performing in your wonderful home town of > Washington. But, if you get all your friends together to spam our E-mail, > our destinies may intertwine! > > Meanwhile, negotiations are still underway for our next big project, a > computer-animated video multi-single, with several different strands of the > album separated to cater to the industrial fans, the ambient fans, and so > forth. With a working title of "Babel", look for more info in our next > newsletter. > > Farewell, friends! > > Ethereal Skies. > > > ***Graveyard Greg sets his Spam Alert to intercept anything from Ethereal Skies*** HA! Another Diabolical attempt from the Demon of Spam THWARTED! Take, THAT, you demon putz! :) Otherwise, I liked it! Graveyard Greg - --ever vigilant for Spam... _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 20:21:50 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Upsetting Dominic At 6:32 PM -0500 5/1/98, Titus 3 11 wrote: >On another side-note, this is probably the only arguement in which I've >laughed out loud (well, I've laughed out loud because something was funny, >not just to piss someone off). Here are more, unsipped comments. >On Fri, 1 May 1998, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: >> At 2:08 PM -0500 5/1/98, Titus 3 11 wrote: >> >On Fri, 1 May 1998, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: >> >And granted, they can nail the truth almost every time. All I'm saying >> >(and saying loudly) is that I want validation that he succedded. >> >Pretending to be terribly paranoid makes this easier. >> >> You want validation? Heh. You're not going to have to ask. Seraphim >> in general tend to finish your sentences with the *whole* thing you >> didn't say... > >The sequence goes - >"did you succed?" >"Yes." >"How do I know you're not lieing?" >"I do not lie." >"I don't know that.(this is where true paranoia pays off - you probably >LEGITAMTLY don't. Resonance schmsemance, dissonacne shcmsoance - I don't >trust you)." >(repeat often. See remark below regarding ease of interogation w/o those >annoying vessels. Vessels forcibly removed if the need be.) Hm. I don't know -- if they tell you something that only a Seraph accessing the Truth could get, you have a harder time being paranoid about it. "You did this, but you were *thinking* that at the time." Unless you're discordantly Paranoid, of course, in which case they smite you and have the trial later... O;> >>>> I ADORE Seraphim of Judgment, really I do. >>> >>>i adore seraphim the way every cartoon mouse loves every cartoon cat. >> >>They often have Good Views. > >The danger for this type of character is Kobal really does notice (when >you do it right). ANd damn but Prank sounds good...(COurse, that is a >legitamite matter for an inquistion) Why, yes, it is. (For that is Judgment's Role, and some of them truly care about those they investigate, since they know that it would be far more horrible should angels fall, and they're doing it for your *own good*. Really.) >>>>> >4)[...] If they convict you, then say that >>>> >she/he/it was your demonic contact - look how their evil powers made you >>>> >suck up to them! >>>> >>>> See above for how Seraphim of Judgment can really put a crimp in >>>> any tactic that involves falsehood. (Until they roll that 666!) >>> >>>mmmmmm...but I REALLY THINK that he made me do it...he just didn't know >>>that he made me do it...ummmm...IM think i'll surrender to the nice >>>servitors of judgement nowimsorry. >> >>Malakite of Judgment: "Wise." > >People always look at me funny when my malakim surrenders. They mention >oaths and such - well, that whole not allowing evil to live one is most >important, and the idea of slaying me is evil, thus if I surrender and >kill the idea of slaying me, that idea being evil, I've done well. >Yes I know Im going to Hell. Probably soon. Don't poke fun at the poor >deluded Malakim, all right? Well, if you surrender to *Hellish* forces -- demons and Hellsworn and Princes and such -- you get dissonance from that, too. >>>>>(Bitterness - the power tool of angry deserted servants >>>>>of Creation everywhere}). Its okay - she/he/it works for Dominic, >>>>>they deserve hell. >>>> >>>>You know, Dominic is hostile to Eli, but not vice versa... >>> >>>I know, but I like to carry that torch for Eli. >> >>Ah, but would Eli like that? Or would he tell you, "Loosen up, man. >>Don't let the Man bother you. Have a snakey cake."? > > Ah, but Eli would tell me"..." oh wait a minute - we haven't seen that >bugger since the 30's! >Acch. Heh heh heh. Sneaky fellow, Eli. And obnoxious. And very good at changing the subject if you *do* catch up with him. >>>Before you start, think >>>of a legit reason to do the hologram - questions like "are you doing that >>>to bug me?" then tune negative. >> >>Unless you're doing it to bug them -- they can catch a *lot*... "You're >>doing that to bug us *and* show us everything..." >> >No you think "hey, if i create this hologram they may not notice the bugs i >just turned their seat into...that would be nice of me" Delusions are >great.. Deluded Malakim of Creation... Yeah, that's gonna be a fun trial... >>"You know, Most Holy, it would just be easier to kill this vessel and >>finish the interrogation upstairs." "I do see the merit in that statement, >>Virtue. Shall we make a vote of it, Guardian?" >> >That would be why I only spend three points on my vessels. Ever. They >get....icked...often. Well, when you do things like *THAT* to *triads*, who are not created with senses of humor (though some learn)... What do you expect. "Most Holy, I vote kill his vessel." "I concur." "That makes three of us." >> >This one will probably be to outlandish for most people, but here it goes >> >- >> >be an inargueably awesome fount of angelic goodness. By Doms standards. >> >> They'll love you and ask if you want to serve Judgment... O;> > >hehehehehehe...oh yes. There are Servitors of Creation in service to Judgment... - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 17:16:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: Re: IN> Abortion Angels - ---David Edelstein wrote: > > "I _really_ don't understand you," the first angel said. > > "I know," said the second. "You're not alone." > Gotta admit...It wasn't as bad as I feared...gave us both sides of the issue...So confess...how long have you been working on the angels and demons of Abortion? Graveyard Greg _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 20:35:28 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> The Demon of Gun Control At 4:58 PM -0700 5/1/98, Graveyard Greg wrote: >Doesn't Gustav's Dictionary of Angels, from A to Z have a name for an >Angel of Abortion? I can just see the responses to the forthcoming >Angel and Demon of Abortion... p. 21 of aforementioned Dictionary. "Angel of Abortion [Kasdaye]" And that's it. - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 08:51:51 +0900 From: Dave Conrad Subject: Re: IN> Angels & Gun Control - --------------7BD3A5C706320C8BEAACABA5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Uncle Wolf wrote: > if they killed the person they shot. Judging by what I have been told > _by police_, they would almost be better off if they were *not* required > to carry guns. > > tom, cadre Cherub of Heaven I think it depends on the cop and what he does, and probably where he lives, too. My Dad was plainclothes for most of his career, and did a bit of undercover work. He never left home without a pistol, usually on his ankle. Most of the guys (and gals) he worked with carried whenever they were out, too. My family lived in NYC until a few years ago, and I think my Dad felt safer with a sidearm than without. He believed he was 'always on duty', and I remember a few times when he helped on duty officers while he was off the clock. I think the fact that most everyone who knew about him knew that he and his guys were always armed helped with the intimidation factor. Of course, the fact that he was nearly 6'6" didn't hurt any. - -- Dave C. iN*T*x "To break the rules is to break the spell" - C. 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Uncle Wolf wrote:

if they killed the person they shot. Judging by what I have been told
_by police_, they would almost be better off if they were *not* required
to carry guns.

tom, cadre Cherub of Heaven

     I think it depends on the cop and what he does, and probably where he lives, too.  My Dad was plainclothes for most of his career, and did a bit of undercover work.  He never left home without a pistol, usually on his ankle.  Most of the guys (and gals) he worked with carried whenever they were out, too.

    My family lived in NYC until a few years ago, and I think my Dad felt safer with a sidearm than without.  He believed he was 'always on duty', and I remember a few times when he helped on duty officers while he was off the clock.  I think the fact that most everyone who knew about him knew that he and his guys were always armed helped with the intimidation factor.  Of course, the fact that he was nearly 6'6" didn't hurt any.

 

--
Dave C.
iN*T*x
"To break the rules is to break the spell" - C. Lasch
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On Fri, 1 May 1998, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > At 6:32 PM -0500 5/1/98, Titus 3 11 wrote: > >On another side-note, this is probably the only arguement in which I've > >laughed out loud (well, I've laughed out loud because something was funny, > >not just to piss someone off). Here are more, unsipped comments. > > > > >On Fri, 1 May 1998, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > >> At 2:08 PM -0500 5/1/98, Titus 3 11 wrote: > >> >On Fri, 1 May 1998, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > > >> >And granted, they can nail the truth almost every time. All I'm saying > >> >(and saying loudly) is that I want validation that he succedded. > >> >Pretending to be terribly paranoid makes this easier. > >> > >> You want validation? Heh. You're not going to have to ask. Seraphim > >> in general tend to finish your sentences with the *whole* thing you > >> didn't say... > > > >The sequence goes - > >"did you succed?" > >"Yes." > >"How do I know you're not lieing?" > >"I do not lie." > >"I don't know that.(this is where true paranoia pays off - you probably > >LEGITAMTLY don't. Resonance schmsemance, dissonacne shcmsoance - I don't > >trust you)." > >(repeat often. See remark below regarding ease of interogation w/o those > >annoying vessels. Vessels forcibly removed if the need be.) > > Hm. I don't know -- if they tell you something that only a Seraph > accessing the Truth could get, you have a harder time being paranoid > about it. "You did this, but you were *thinking* that at the time." > > Unless you're discordantly Paranoid, of course, in which case they > smite you and have the trial later... O;> "A smiting! A smiting!" "Yes. You must smite her well. And when you have finished smiting her...Smite Me! (crowd - "and me! and mE! Me too! EtC!")" Paranoid/sado-masochistic... SMite ME Smite ME! > > >>>> I ADORE Seraphim of Judgment, really I do. > >>> > >>>i adore seraphim the way every cartoon mouse loves every cartoon cat. > >> > >>They often have Good Views. > > > >The danger for this type of character is Kobal really does notice (when > >you do it right). ANd damn but Prank sounds good...(COurse, that is a > >legitamite matter for an inquistion) > > Why, yes, it is. (For that is Judgment's Role, and some of them > truly care about those they investigate, since they know that it > would be far more horrible should angels fall, and they're doing > it for your *own good*. Really.) Yeah, we all see how well the stupid cat learns... I keep killing the damn malakites vessel, he does somethingthat prevents discorportion at the trial, and then we repeat! (working on the something...I just think that while the Valefor/Janus thing gets beaten to death, the whole Kobal/Dominic thing gets totally ignored). > > >>>>> >4)[...] If they convict you, then say that > >>>> >she/he/it was your demonic contact - look how their evil powers made you > >>>> >suck up to them! > >>>> > >>>> See above for how Seraphim of Judgment can really put a crimp in > >>>> any tactic that involves falsehood. (Until they roll that 666!) > >>> > >>>mmmmmm...but I REALLY THINK that he made me do it...he just didn't know > >>>that he made me do it...ummmm...IM think i'll surrender to the nice > >>>servitors of judgement nowimsorry. > >> > >>Malakite of Judgment: "Wise." > > > >People always look at me funny when my malakim surrenders. They mention > >oaths and such - well, that whole not allowing evil to live one is most > >important, and the idea of slaying me is evil, thus if I surrender and > >kill the idea of slaying me, that idea being evil, I've done well. > >Yes I know Im going to Hell. Probably soon. Don't poke fun at the poor > >deluded Malakim, all right? > > Well, if you surrender to *Hellish* forces -- demons and Hellsworn and > Princes and such -- you get dissonance from that, too. <>you sane people. You see, I'm not surrendering TO them... they are my weapon (see! See how i fight creativly! ) to destroy the EVIL that is the idea to kill me - a far greater evil then they. So when I surrender to them, I am actually, really, weilding a great big bloody sword of reaping and killing and cutting... andhurting andstuff... > > >>>>>(Bitterness - the power tool of angry deserted servants > >>>>>of Creation everywhere}). Its okay - she/he/it works for Dominic, > >>>>>they deserve hell. > >>>> > >>>>You know, Dominic is hostile to Eli, but not vice versa... > >>> > >>>I know, but I like to carry that torch for Eli. > >> > >>Ah, but would Eli like that? Or would he tell you, "Loosen up, man. > >>Don't let the Man bother you. Have a snakey cake."? > > > > Ah, but Eli would tell me"..." oh wait a minute - we haven't seen that > >bugger since the 30's! > >Acch. > > Heh heh heh. Sneaky fellow, Eli. And obnoxious. And very good at > changing the subject if you *do* catch up with him. Speaking of which, what are your feelings on the recent (anything other then turning my vessel into a grease spot [its a cheap discord I want. When killed, the vessel -Always- turns into a grease spot....hehehehe] > > >>>Before you start, think > >>>of a legit reason to do the hologram - questions like "are you doing that > >>>to bug me?" then tune negative. > >> > >>Unless you're doing it to bug them -- they can catch a *lot*... "You're > >>doing that to bug us *and* show us everything..." > >> > >No you think "hey, if i create this hologram they may not notice the bugs i > >just turned their seat into...that would be nice of me" Delusions are > >great.. > > Deluded Malakim of Creation... Yeah, that's gonna be a fun trial... "Trial? Isn't this the set of Full House? Divine Wraith and all?" > > >>"You know, Most Holy, it would just be easier to kill this vessel and > >>finish the interrogation upstairs." "I do see the merit in that statement, > >>Virtue. Shall we make a vote of it, Guardian?" > >> > >That would be why I only spend three points on my vessels. Ever. They > >get....icked...often. > > Well, when you do things like *THAT* to *triads*, who are not created > with senses of humor (though some learn)... What do you expect. > > "Most Holy, I vote kill his vessel." "I concur." "That makes three of > us." (followed by the fastest, most desperate summoning of Eli ever seen. If that fails, try Kobal. Yes I know technically that that is bad...what the heck?) > > >> >This one will probably be to outlandish for most people, but here it goes > >> >- > >> >be an inargueably awesome fount of angelic goodness. By Doms standards. > >> > >> They'll love you and ask if you want to serve Judgment... O;> > > > >hehehehehehe...oh yes. > > There are Servitors of Creation in service to Judgment... Well, after the Kobal thing... > > --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor > GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ > > Enosh Malakim of Creation In service to Dark Hu...err...Dominic...yeah, Dominic ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 17:37:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Knop Subject: IN> New angelic PBEM I'm planning on starting up an angelic PBEM set in the San Francisco Bay Area. The game will be for 4-6 players, and right now the plan is to have it start sometime in early June. I'll be taking character submissions for a week or two. I'll decide who's in the game based on the submissions; it's not a first-come first-serve sort of deal. Ideally, I'd like this to become an ongoing game, where eventually the broader themes of the Symphony might be explored. However, it's starting out with a small and seemingly routine mission: a Shedite is known to be running amuck in the Bay Area, and a group of angels are being assigned by their respsective superiors to track it down. For more information about the game and about character submissions, see: http://www.wco.com/~rknop/Omar/inb/ (inb = In Nomine Berkeley, if anybody is wondering). - -Rob rknop@wco.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 20:41:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Pee Kitty Subject: Re: SV: IN> Question about Motion (Celestial) On Sat, 2 May 1998, Jens Alm wrote: > In my game, I've ruled that you can't celestially move anything into direct harm, ie 200 yards up in the air or inside a wall, etc. My motivation is that you cannot create disturbance with celestial movement (more than it creates itself) as it works with the symphony, not against it. The real motivation is of course to stop my players from teleporting people 200 yards up in the air :). > I haven't had a problem with this in my game...mainly because it costs the average celestial about 6 essence to teleport a person! I mean, you get 30 lbs besides youself for free, then every 10xCelF pounds is another Essence. Even a celestial with 4 CF would require 6 Essence to teleport a person weighing 161-190 pounds. Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian Meow! And finally, a special message to \|/ ____ \|/ anyone who thinks I give a damn... ~@-/ oO \-@~ /_( \__/ )_\ \__U_/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 20:43:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Pee Kitty Subject: Re: IN> Double Agents On Fri, 1 May 1998, Graveyard Greg wrote: > > Of course, Gabriel always seemed to embody intuition and random > insight; > > she might not have been able to tell that about the essence...she > might > > have just KNOWN it. She's weird like that...brilliant and crazy. > > Just like you, Rev. Kitty? ;) Yeah, but I'm no archangel. :) Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian Meow! And finally, a special message to \|/ ____ \|/ anyone who thinks I give a damn... ~@-/ oO \-@~ /_( \__/ )_\ \__U_/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 20:04:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Titus 3 11 Subject: IN> More (but different) random strangeness How to upset Eli- I have no idea. Anyone who wants to think of something to bum out that guy just isn't cool, the man is so brilliant you have no idea man! I'm an american man, like you! (I just see Eli and his closest and bestest friends all being like Dennis Hoppers character from Apocalypse now...OF COURSE god is the mad officer...I'll let you decide which mad officer). How to upset a servitor of Eli (w/o furthering Hell's causes, when it gets too easy) 1)Let your archangel rid him of all his discords...and then try him for what he did under their influence anyway (we realize the Paranioa made you *keep* transmuting the triads chairs/clothes/naval lint into spiders. we Don't care. ANd you owe me for getting rid of the discord.) 2)Tell everyone who gossips and/or sleeps with her/him/it all the STDs he's got...a little (abuse of) Divine Logic helps here... (what do you think the grease puddle destroyed vessels leave behind is? not anything a vessel SHOULD be making:) 3) Break stuff. That may sound easy, but its not. Breaking a pencil, you've just made two pencils - and LOOK! one even comes with an eraser! (Damn perky Eli freaks). Break public transport...to the big game. Break things bad people have attachments to (poor thing!). 4) Do what they do, but DON'T piss off the Inquistion via your very existance. IF you are on loan from Eli to Dom, rub it in. "So, what's it like being randomly targeted by triads like this? So, what's it like not actually having a clue where or WHEN your superior is?" Smart ass Elites (nice how that word works out, init?) respond with "Not as bad as my superior always knowing where I am, what I am doing, who I'm doing it with, why I'm doing it, when it happened, and STILL checking up on me every week!" (Another tip - tell Seraphim of Judgement that Big Brother is watching; especially if you see Dom there for his weekly and they dont see him yet. They don't think its funny at all...neither does Dom, but what the heck he's just Kobal in a big robe anyway!) Love, Bullets, Faith, Fear - Enosh Malakim of Creation In service to The Angel of Trying to Get Back In Dominic's Good Graces so as To Avoid Eternal Damnation (He is DEFINTLY an archangel...and a busyone) MiVDC, Founder of the KANCIP coaltion, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 21:17:48 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Emily K. Dresner" Subject: Re: IN> Upsetting Dominic > >> >This one will probably be to outlandish for most people, but here it goes > >> >- > >> >be an inargueably awesome fount of angelic goodness. By Doms standards. > >> > >> They'll love you and ask if you want to serve Judgment... O;> > > > >hehehehehehe...oh yes. > > There are Servitors of Creation in service to Judgment... Where? WHERE? WHERE? Oh, wait a sec. Um... I think I have one somewhere... right about... here. Yeah. How cool is that? - - Em ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 20:26:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Titus 3 11 Subject: Re: IN> Upsetting Dominic On Fri, 1 May 1998, Emily K. Dresner wrote: > > > >> >This one will probably be to outlandish for most people, but here it goes > > >> >- > > >> >be an inargueably awesome fount of angelic goodness. By Doms standards. > > >> > > >> They'll love you and ask if you want to serve Judgment... O;> > > > > > >hehehehehehe...oh yes. => > > > There are Servitors of Creation in service to Judgment... > > Where? WHERE? WHERE? > > Oh, wait a sec. Um... I think I have one somewhere... right about... > here. Yeah. > > How cool is that? > > - Em > Hey - I work for Dominic. I'm a servitor of creation in service to dark humahhhhhh - dominic. In service to dominic. thats the (meal) ticket. Could you pretend that that angry triad behind me (and closing fast) is a demon hoard? Thanks.... Enosh Malakim of Creation In service to Dominic (I swear! I'm a GOOD guy! Regardless of the title of Revalations IV, we malakim CAN'T fall! ummm that triad? They're just paranoid.) MiVDC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 21:26:35 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Emily K. Dresner" Subject: Re: IN> More (but different) random strangeness > 3) Break stuff. That may sound easy, but its not. Breaking a pencil, > you've just made two pencils - and LOOK! one even comes with an eraser! > (Damn perky Eli freaks). Break public transport...to the big game. > Break things bad people have attachments to (poor thing!). I couldn't disagree more. You're missing the point of Creation. Even if you break a bus, it's still part of the natural existance of the bus. It came into being through work, it went out in a spray of sparks. People may have died, and that is a serious bummer, but all things pass, it was part of the human life cycle and besides, that's what malakim of Creation are for. 'Midian, man, you know about those demons who keep making of with your Burger King? They just trashed a bus. They're thatta way. Go for it, dude.' Creation encompasses Destruction, and unfortunately this includes your living room. Sorry abou the mess, man. - - Em ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 20:35:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Titus 3 11 Subject: Re: IN> More (but different) random strangeness Teetering as I am on LOTS of desonance land, I'll gracefully back down... AGGH!! surrendered!!!pain!dissonance...entering...lots..of...desonance...land... uggg....must do ....something macho...as befits...my...Malakim...status... *does pushups* *Proceeds to become outcast anyway* Outcast Malakim of Creation in service to Dominic anyone? (said very queitly, hoping Kobal is listening..or Eli). Enosh Malakim of Creation Servitor of Dominic OUCH!cast. On Fri, 1 May 1998, Emily K. Dresner wrote: > > > 3) Break stuff. That may sound easy, but its not. Breaking a pencil, > > you've just made two pencils - and LOOK! one even comes with an eraser! > > (Damn perky Eli freaks). Break public transport...to the big game. > > Break things bad people have attachments to (poor thing!). > > I couldn't disagree more. You're missing the point of Creation. Even if > you break a bus, it's still part of the natural existance of the bus. It > came into being through work, it went out in a spray of sparks. People > may have died, and that is a serious bummer, but all things pass, it > was part of the human life cycle and besides, that's what malakim of > Creation are for. 'Midian, man, you know about those demons who keep > making of with your Burger King? They just trashed a bus. They're thatta > way. Go for it, dude.' > > Creation encompasses Destruction, and unfortunately this includes your > living room. Sorry abou the mess, man. > > - Em > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 18:45:19 -0700 From: Sean McCarthy Subject: IN> Superiors and (mutable?) Celestial form It is my opinion that Superiors can appear in whatever Celestial Form they choose. They are special that way. I also postulate, for my campaign, that within the Savannah, Jordi's power allows his angels to assume an animal Celestial form. Any one they happen to be attuned to. Anyone else ever deal with the idea of changing Celestial forms? I once envisioned a Song of Illusion, with the Celestial variant allowing this kind of thing, but I dismissed it as too overpowered. Anyone else playing with such ideas? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 22:02:48 -0400 (EDT) From: gantr@NKU.EDU Subject: Re: IN> The Demon of Gun Control On Fri, 1 May 1998, Graveyard Greg wrote: > Doesn't Gustav's Dictionary of Angels, from A to Z have a name for an > Angel of Abortion? I can just see the responses to the forthcoming > Angel and Demon of Abortion... I've got it right here. Let's see...here we are: Angel of Abortion [Kasdaye] Kasdaye (Kesdeya, Kasdeja)--a fallen angel who teaches "a variety of demonic practices, including abortion." Kasdaye is one of 7 angels reputed to have led the apostate angels, according to _The Book of Enoch_ (_Enoch I_), p. 69. > *groan* I agree. This whole thread grows wearisome. Richard "Mr. Uriel" Gant ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #745 ******************************* The material here is (C) 1997 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.