From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Wed Jun 24 20:43:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA01619 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:43:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id UAA18818 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:43:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:43:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199806250143.UAA18818@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #836 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Wednesday, June 24 1998 Volume 01 : Number 836 In this digest: IN> Fall of the Malakim... WHEN?! IN> Choir, Band, and Superior Questions Re: IN> Choir, Band, and Superior Questions Re: IN> Lower Hells (And a NEW question!) Re: IN> Choir, Band, and Superior Questions Re: IN> Choir, Band, and Superior Questions IN> Rewrite of the combat system Re: IN> Archangel Words [bordering toward long] Re: IN> Jordi, most dissonant of Archangels Re: IN> Fall of the Malakim... WHEN?! IN> The Anti-God IN> [NPC] Jamin, Elohite of the Wind Re: IN> Fall of the Malakim... WHEN?! Re: IN> Archangel Words [bordering toward long] Re: IN> The Spear of Destiny ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:29:40 PDT From: "Peter Martin" Subject: IN> Fall of the Malakim... WHEN?! It seems like the next In Nomine book (Fall of the Malakim) Has dropped off the face of the earth. Now, I'll be honest with you all.. I could care less about a fallem Malakite. (He'd live about 1.2 nanoseconds before every UN-fallem malakite dropped out of heaven and ripped every single one of his forces into eeeny beeny teeny weeny particles and cooked them over Gabriel's volcano before feeding them to the nearest servitor of Haagenti and then proptly disemboweling HIM too.) I want those extended writeups of David (my favorite superior) and Lilith (what does she look like, anyway?) not to mentiopn the obligatory canned celestials, etc. The book looks cool. So... has anybody heard ANYTHING about when it's coming out?! Peter Martin - -Malakim of Stone in service to Judgment ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:48:33 PDT From: "Peter Martin" Subject: IN> Choir, Band, and Superior Questions I've seen it mentioned that Malakim don't Traum... but WHERE, exactly in the official rules is this?! Also... with the wouldn't this make any combat with Malakim sucidally destructive for BOTH sides involved? The Malk would get as many reinforcements as they could every time they went back to heaven. Since they gain dissonance by giving up, wouldn't this theoretically mean that the battle had to last until there were either A) No more Malakim or B) no more demons... ...ANYWHERE? Second: Isn't the resonance of the impudites sufficient to make them utter combat monsters? Just buy ONE destructive song or attunement, fuel with copious amounts of essence and... ow. I think their band's reaction to the Malks in the Infernal players guide should've been knuckles being cracked not, "One word: run" Comments? Third: Aside from an arbitrary ban, how does one keep a player who plays a calabim of Kronos with ofanite resonance (Due to the Balseraph of Kronos attunement from making every single battle into an utter massacre? BTW... this explains the Demon Prince Valefor/Archangel Janus. He's just a Calabim of Kronos with his Balseraph attunement who manages to hkeep heaven and hell in the dark!) at any rate... how does one keep one of these under control without bringing out REALLY big guns (that blow away the rest of the party) all the time? Also, if they're good enough at acting, isn't it conceivable that demons with this attunement could have ANGELIC attunements as well?! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 22:03:01 -0400 From: Andrew Frades Subject: Re: IN> Choir, Band, and Superior Questions Peter Martin wrote: > I've seen it mentioned that Malakim don't Traum... but WHERE, exactly in > the official rules is this?! Also... with the wouldn't this make any > combat with Malakim sucidally destructive for BOTH sides involved? The > Malk would get as many reinforcements as they could every time they went > back to heaven. Since they gain dissonance by giving up, wouldn't this > theoretically mean that the battle had to last until there were either > A) No more Malakim or B) no more demons... ...ANYWHERE? p.67, IN Core rules Consider that it is not dissonant for a Malakim to choose to fight on their own terms, not those of the demon. Even if it takes 100 years or more, it still is not dissonant. Just because they must not suffer an evil to live does not mean that they are stupid. It is also only dissonant for servitors of War to retreat, not all Malakim suffer from this condition. Another thing to consider is that many of the more warrior Archangels would not be happy if one of their servitors ran off and got themselves vessel-killed for very little return on investment. The War will happen in its good time little Malakim, but fight it on our terms and at a time of our choosing and advantage, not the other way around. > Second: Isn't the resonance of the impudites sufficient to make them > utter combat monsters? Just buy ONE destructive song or attunement, fuel > with copious amounts of essence and... ow. I think their band's reaction > to the Malks in the Infernal players guide should've been knuckles being > cracked not, "One word: run" Comments? Impudites can still only hold their forces in essence and their resonance takes at least two turns to steal essence and another to fire off a big damage song. Even if they had enough random mortals around to steal from they only get a maximum of 5 essence. The rules suggests random amounts of 1d-4 so most attempts are doomed to failure even if you succeed and then you have wasted two rounds for nothing. Also consider the Impudite dissonance condition. Better be one hundred percent sure the person you are fighting is not human or when you fire that song up. If you aren't sure all the time you will be getting a visit from your neighborhood servant of the Game before too long. Plus each dissonant note makes it even harder to use you resonance to get the essence to fuel your Celestial Howitzer. > Third: Aside from an arbitrary ban, how does one keep a player who plays > a calabim of Kronos with ofanite resonance (Due to the Balseraph of > Kronos attunement from making every single battle into an utter > massacre? BTW... this explains the Demon Prince Valefor/Archangel Janus. > He's just a Calabim of Kronos with his Balseraph attunement who manages > to hkeep heaven and hell in the dark!) at any rate... how does one keep > one of these under control without bringing out REALLY big guns (that > blow away the rest of the party) all the time? Also, if they're good > enough at acting, isn't it conceivable that demons with this attunement > could have ANGELIC attunements as well?! You want a reason that can not be undermined? Good luck, but here are a few off the top of my head: 1. Balseraph of Fate Attunement is a lie to the Symphony so no other Band can have it. 2. The attunement must be taken at character creation and thus could be argued that it must be taken at the moment the character begins to serve Kronos. Since the character is a Calabim and would not be granted the ability to choose that attunement immediately after beginning their service to Kronos, they can not take it. 3. Because it is a game and the object of the game is not to win, but for everyone including the game master to have fun. If everyone wants to twink the rules to get the most powerful character then they should expect the game master to do so as well. I think Arron Alston said it best when he made the Elephant anology... (sorry, badly misquoted) "...make whatever character you want and I can throw an Elephant on them. If you can defeat it, I can get a bigger Elephant. I'm the GM, I always have a bigger Elephant..." Or in other words, "What is good for the goose is good for the gander." Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:44:31 +0900 From: Simon Hailes Subject: Re: IN> Lower Hells (And a NEW question!) At 11:34 AM 21/06/98 -0700, you wrote: > > > >I was catching up on soe old email, and look what I came across... > >---Shadowstar wrote: >> >> Greetings, >> >> > Some talk a while back about Celestial beasts brought to mind a >long >> >standing question of mine. What besides Lucifer and a company of >> >unfortunate demons and damned, resides in the Lower Hells? You >can't tell >> >> >complete and Utter oblivion, the Void. And maybe, just maybe, >Anti-God >> > > >Hmmm....the Anti-God? Now, there's a concept...better get to work on it! > > "The Anti_God, hmm?" Lilith purred at the Word bound demon in front of her, he was the demon of opposites so that was why he was so interested. "Yes, you see, life has death, day has night, electrons have protons, white has black, war has peace, everything has its opposite, so i thought, shouldn't God have one to, Anti-God, if you wish to call it that, the real adversary perhaps, or the collect consciousness of Destruction incarnate, the real Satan, the real Adversary," Lilith fluttered her beautiful eyelids in response, creasing her brow as if she had just been asked to express the mass of a white dwarf in an equation. "What re you offering for such portentous knowledge, should I have it, little demon?" The demon of Opposites grinned "Freedom itself has it opposite, slavery, conformity, because I am a ranked demon of Malphas, you can be sure that I can hamper the demons, and angels, that represent these ideals," Lilith thought about it for a while, flicking back her gorgeous hair, leaning on her exquisite hands. "Very well," she said finally "You hamper my opposite, and I'll tell you what I know about God's opposite," The demon was over-joyed, even as he became geased to the mother of all geasers, he awaited the knowledge, eagerly, hungrily, like rat sitting patiently for a piece of bread. "Yves claims that the light, and God has always existed, that there is no greater darkness, no greater evil, other then Lucifer, however that does sound like a heavenly bedtime story told to keep the young angels from having nightmares-" "Celestails don't dream," the demon of Opposites said confused. Lilith frowned at him, then continued "Lucifer counter-claims that the darkness came first, and that God imposed His will upon it, thwarting that which came before him, other theologians and occultists have supposed the same thing, saying that God in fact created the Universe out of the Ones who came before Him, like the Norse myth with Odin and Ymir," Lilith stopped to clear her throat. "However the truth, as always, lies somewhere in between, as far as I know, ever heard of Nowhere?" The demon of Opposites shook his head, but he very much wanted to know what it was. "Nowhere is a single place in all creation, I've never been there myself but i have spoken with those who have, they say it is a pitch black place, always raining, filled with row upon row, street upon street of empty building, spreading out for all eternity, that is until you find the Tower of Nowhere, which you find only once, and the Guardinas there give you a choice of four doors," Lilith stopped now for effect, and to let the images sink in to the demons head "One door leads to Anti-God unmanifest, and Utter Dissolution, the second leads to Anti-God manifest, and most probable dissolution, the third leads to any place in Hell, the fourth leads to your hearts fondest desire," "So there is an Anti-God!" the demon of Opposites exclaimed "Unless the Celestials involved hallucinated the whole thing," Lilith nodded, the she stretched and got up, smiling at the Word-bound. "Hey, come back, your not finished," the demon of Opposites growled. "Yes I am," she replied, the she was gone. Simon, Demon Prince of Pearls ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 03:53:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Pee Kitty Subject: Re: IN> Choir, Band, and Superior Questions On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Peter Martin wrote: > I've seen it mentioned that Malakim don't Traum... but WHERE, exactly in > the official rules is this?! Under the Malakim description, and under coping with Corporeal death. > Also... with the wouldn't this make any > combat with Malakim sucidally destructive for BOTH sides involved? The > Malk would get as many reinforcements as they could every time they went > back to heaven. Since they gain dissonance by giving up, wouldn't this > theoretically mean that the battle had to last until there were either > A) No more Malakim or B) no more demons... ...ANYWHERE? Malakim can't just 'whip up' reinforcements at the drop of a hat! There have to be angels there who are free to help them and have permission to. Also, Malakim don't automatically get free vessels...if the last vessel was his last one, he has to petition for a new one. Lastly Malakim aren't mindless combat monsters. They can wait and ambush the demons later, if that makes more sense. > Second: Isn't the resonance of the impudites sufficient to make them > utter combat monsters? Just buy ONE destructive song or attunement, fuel > with copious amounts of essence and... ow. I think their band's reaction > to the Malks in the Infernal players guide should've been knuckles being > cracked not, "One word: run" Comments? You obviously haven't played one. That resonance is HARD to use, and not always reliable. Most humans have 0-2 essence on them, and backfires suck. It's still a damned useful resonance, but you can only burn so much essence in combat...and most combat-useful songs/attunements DO limit how much essence you CAN pump into them. > Third: Aside from an arbitrary ban, how does one keep a player who plays > a calabim of Kronos with ofanite resonance (Due to the Balseraph of > Kronos attunement CHeck the errata/FAQs. The Balseraph of Kronos attunement is considered to be resonance-based. Only Balsies can take it. YCMV, of course. > from making every single battle into an utter > massacre? Huh? I don't see you're point. A Calabim/Ofanim would be able to cause damage like a calabite, and would be able to boost his movement-based skills like an Ofanite. Doesn't seem too overpowered to me...you want overpowered? Build a Calabite of Baal with Art of Combat, and the Feet song. Resonance/Pistol/Feet/Fist in ONE round, for 2 essence per round. Most would actually just Resonance/Pistol/Feet for 1 essence instead. Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian Meow! "relationshit - n. - A loss of Slack from a really bad relationship" -- MDisaster (#subgenii, us.sorcery.net) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:02:57 -0400 From: John Karakash - Lucent ASCC Subject: Re: IN> Choir, Band, and Superior Questions Peter Martin wrote: > > I've seen it mentioned that Malakim don't Traum... but WHERE, exactly in > the official rules is this?! Also... with the wouldn't this make any > combat with Malakim sucidally destructive for BOTH sides involved? The > Malk would get as many reinforcements as they could every time they went > back to heaven. Since they gain dissonance by giving up, wouldn't this > theoretically mean that the battle had to last until there were either > A) No more Malakim or B) no more demons... ...ANYWHERE? Malakim can't suffer an evil to live. If that evil has just handed you your butt, that's a different matter. Also, they cannot surrender. Having your vessel destroyed is not surrender! They can't allow themselves to be captured: ditto the above reasoning. > Second: Isn't the resonance of the impudites sufficient to make them > utter combat monsters? Just buy ONE destructive song or attunement, fuel > with copious amounts of essence and... ow. I think their band's reaction > to the Malks in the Infernal players guide should've been knuckles being > cracked not, "One word: run" Comments? Use up your essence in combat and you leave yourself WIIIIIDE open to retaliation. Sure, you might take out ONE opponent. Impudites are far too selfish to use themselves up this way. > Third: Aside from an arbitrary ban, how does one keep a player who plays > a calabim of Kronos with ofanite resonance (Due to the Balseraph of > Kronos attunement from making every single battle into an utter > massacre? BTW... this explains the Demon Prince Valefor/Archangel Janus. > He's just a Calabim of Kronos with his Balseraph attunement who manages > to hkeep heaven and hell in the dark!) at any rate... how does one keep > one of these under control without bringing out REALLY big guns (that > blow away the rest of the party) all the time? Also, if they're good > enough at acting, isn't it conceivable that demons with this attunement > could have ANGELIC attunements as well?! From the FAQ - ------------ Can any Servitor of Fate take the Balseraph of Fate Attunement? Nope. The Balseraph of Fate Attunement is not available to any other band. The attunement description only says 'at character creation'; that means that at the moment the Balseraph chooses to serve Kronos, the attunement takes affect. Only a Balseraph's ability to 'lie' to the Symphony allows it to emulate an angel's Attunement! They can't take this Attunement again, either. - -- ___________________________________________________ / \ | John Karakash - Lucent Technologies/Bell Labs | | (919)380-4629 | | | | The power to tax involves the power to destroy. | | -Chief Justice Marshall | \___________________________________________________/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:02:16 -0400 From: neel@cswv.com (Neel Krishnaswami) Subject: IN> Rewrite of the combat system The basic IN combat system is broken enough that I decided to create a new one for my game. What I came up with is still broken, but not quite so badly. There's an HTML version of this stuff on my IN webpage. Go to http://www.sff.net/people/neelk/in_nomine/in_nomine.html and look under the rules section. - -- Vessel Rules: ============= It's really poor to have starting PCs with a range of body hits from 2 to 144. So, I redid this so that there would be a lot less variation at the extremes of the distribution. I've also included a list of what people can take as tough or weak in my game. For Celestials: Body hits = (3 x Strength) + (6 x Vessel level) Minimum hits ( 1 Str, Vessel/1) = 9 hits Maximum hits (12 Str, Vessel/6) = 72 hits Weak Celestial (4 Str, Vessel/1) = 18 hits Avg. Celestial (6 Str, Vessel/2) = 30 hits Buff Celestial (8 Str, Vessel/3) = 42 hits For (adult) humans: Body hits = (2 x Strength) + (5 x (Toughness) + 5 Minimum hits (1 Str, 0 Tgh) = 7 hits Maximum hits (8 str, 2 Tgh) = 31 hits Weak Human (2 Str, 0 Tgh) = 9 hits Avg. Human (3 Str, 0 Tgh) = 11 hits Buff Human (5 Str, 1 Tgh) = 18 hits Combat ====== o The Turn Sequence: 1. Initiative. A PC's basic initiative is its Agility. If a successful Tactics roll is made, then the check digit can be added to the initiative. Ofanim are allowed to use their resonance to boost their initiative, and Ofanim of War always win initiative. 2. Declaration The characters in a combat declare their attacks from lowest initiative to highest. (This is so that a high initiative character can react to and intercept what a slow one does.) 3. Resolution Each character's actions are resolved one by one, in order from highest initiative to lowest. o Attack and Dodge Rolls: The base chance to hit is given by (Attribute + Skill + Weapon Accuracy). Corporeal Forces no longer add to the attack roll. The damage of an attack is given by (Check digit + Weapon Power). Dodge is given by Agility + Dodge Skill, and the check digit still subtracts from the damage taken. o Taking Damage: Again, there are different rules for humans and celestials, because the degree to which they need things like functioning internal organs varies. :) * Humans: A human who takes 25% or more of his hit points in a single attack must make a (Str + Corporeal Forces) roll to keep from going into shock. GM whimsy and the type of the attack determine for how long. A human goes unconscious when they are reduced to zero body hits, and dies when they take an additional (Str) hits of damage. * Celestials: A celestial doesn't risk shock when they take damage. A celestial's vessel is destroyed when it reaches negative (Strength + Vessel level) damage. To remain conscious at or below zero hits, a celestial must make a Strength roll at a penalty equal to the amount of damage past zero. For example, Bobiel the angel has a Strength of 6 and a vessel of 2. He will die when he reaches -8 body hits. If he is knocked down to -2 body hits, he must make a Str-2 roll to remain conscious. If he is hit again for 2 points of damage, he is reduced to -4 hits and must therefore make another Str check, this time at a -4 penalty. - -- Neel Krishnaswami neelk@alum.mit.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:14:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "York H. Dobyns" Subject: Re: IN> Archangel Words [bordering toward long] Earl Wajenberg writes: [...] >Technically, almost everything that is an angiosperm has flowers >of some sort. IIRC everything that is an angiosperm has flowers by definition, since that's how we define the taxonomical group. >So who gets slime molds? Novalis, Jordi, or the very minor >Archangel of Protoctista? Minor? The Archangel of Protoctists ought to be in as dominant a position, relative to living things, as the Archangel of Stone is relative to the corporeal world as a whole :-). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:25:30 +0100 From: Kevin Walsh Subject: Re: IN> Jordi, most dissonant of Archangels On Sun, Jun 21, 1998 at 11:57:18AM -0400, Neel Krishnaswami wrote: > >I take this from two factors. First, according to Genesis (yes, I AM > >going to use it as a base In Nom source) God gave man domination over > >the plants and creatures of the air water etc. IIRC, Uriel states this as fact in the vignette concerning his recall at the front of the Marches, which still leaves the question of whether it's actually true (in IN canon). Personally, I thought the context in which he stated it made rather a good argument against him, but no-one ever said logic was his strong point. Kevin Walsh, Balseraph of Nitpicking, Demon of Off-Topic Trivia. - -- "Yet it cannot be called talent to slay fellow-citizens, to deceive friends, to be without faith, without mercy, without religion; such methods may gain empire, but not glory." Machiavelli, the Prince. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 98 12:30 EDT From: Walter Milliken Subject: Re: IN> Fall of the Malakim... WHEN?! >It seems like the next In Nomine book (Fall of the Malakim) Has dropped >off the face of the earth. It just seems that way... Servitors of SJGames have been frantically working behind the scenes to get it out. > I want >those extended writeups of David (my favorite superior) and Lilith (what >does she look like, anyway?) There's a picture of her in the IPG (I think it is), thumbing for a ride and holding a sign reading "Anywhere but Eden". The FotM picture in her expanded writeup is definitely pretty cool. (We bought the original directly from Dan Smith -- living with the Line Editor has its benefits....) > The book looks cool. It is. The main adventure should be pretty interesting. (Sorry, no spoilers yet....) > So... has anybody heard ANYTHING >about when it's coming out?! Soon, is all I know -- I'm not sure what the street date is, but it's pretty close to done now. Personally, I'm hoping it will be out for Worldcon, but I don't really know whether they're going to make that or not. - ---Walter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:07:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: IN> The Anti-God - ---Simon Hailes wrote: > >Hmmm....the Anti-God? Now, there's a concept...better get to work on it! > > > > "The Anti_God, hmm?" Lilith purred at the Word bound demon in front of > her, he was the demon of opposites so that was why he was so interested. > Simon, Demon Prince of Pearls > > Nice....very nice.... _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:45:42 -0400 From: Neel Krishnaswami Subject: IN> [NPC] Jamin, Elohite of the Wind An NPC from my game. He doesn't have any particularly secret bits to his background, so I feel okay posting him to the list. - -- Jamin Elohite of the Wind "Vanity of vanity, saith the preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity. What profit hath a man of all his labor which he takes under the sun?" Ecclesiastes 1:2-3 Corporeal Forces 3 -- Strength 6 Agility 6 Ethereal Forces 3 -- Intelligence 5 Precision 7 Celestial Forces 4 -- Will 7 Perception 9 Vessel: Human Male/2, Charisma +2 (commanding presence) Skills: Fast-Talk/5, Lying/3, Detect Lies/5, Emote/2, Fighting/3, Dodge/3 Songs: Celestial Charm/5 Attunements: Elohite of Wind, Seraph of Wind [Jamin is about 25 cps above starting level.] Appearance: Jamin appears on Earth as a 6'4", 230 pound black man. He wears a somber expression, and has enough raw presence to take over a room simply by walking into it. He usually dresses slightly more formally than the situation would warrant -- in casual situations he'll wear slacks and a tie, and in formal situations the Brooks Brothers shirts and suits comes out -- in order to put everyone around him slightly off balance. Story Jamin is one of the reasons Dominic looks askance at the angels of the Wind. Janus has ordered Jamin to shake humans free of the habits and attitudes that keep them focused on the Earth, and cause them to consider what will become of their immortal souls. This does not bother Dominic or his Servitors. What does bother them is the means by which this is accomplished. Jamin specializes in "pulling a Job" on mortals. He will find a human being who is too caught up in the things of this world, and then systematically remove every support and every Earthly comfort that his target can turn to. He will take away their job, their friends, their health, their reputations, their basic pride in themselves -- everything. He proves to them in the most irrefutable fashion that no earthly thing can provide sure comfort, that it is all dust before the wind. It is when they are at the brink, with nothing to turn to and no one to comfort them, that Jamin comes to them once more. And he tells them that the Lord will still take them, and will hold them for all eternity, should they but ask. Most angels find this an amazingly disturbing MO, but it cannot be denied that he is extraordinarily effective at what he does. The overwhelming majority of the people whose lives he shatters do end up changing the way they live their lives, and do go to Heaven when they die. Dominic is nonetheless wary of this approach, for it seems to him to border on punishing the innocent, and he tries to keep a close watch on Jamin. Janus argues that there are in fact people who need shock treatment to be saved, and to hold back out of squeamishness is to be complicit in their damnation. This is not a dispute that will be resolved soon, and in the meantime Jamin moves across the Earth, obedient to the mission Janus set him on. - -- Neel Krishnaswami neelk@alum.mit.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:15:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: Re: IN> Fall of the Malakim... WHEN?! - ---Peter Martin wrote: > > It seems like the next In Nomine book (Fall of the Malakim) Has dropped > off the face of the earth. >The book looks cool. So... has anybody heard ANYTHING > about when it's coming out?! > > > Peter Martin > -Malakim of Stone in service to Judgment I hear July...along with The Final Trumpet! Woo hoo! The Final Trumpet is important in my campaign now...because of the fact that every living being in Austin, Texas is dead (including celestials), and more towns are dying...The celestials are gearing up for Armageddon! Who is responsible for so many deaths? Legion, Demon Prince of Corruption My players are in BIG trouble! :) Graveyard Greg _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 00:29:50 +0100 From: Julian Breen Subject: Re: IN> Archangel Words [bordering toward long] Earl Wajenberg writes >Afterburner wrote: > >> Not all plants have flowers. Ferns, for example, don't. >> Neither do most trees (pine trees don't flower, nor do oaks). > >Pines don't, true, but I think oaks and most non-evergreen trees >do, even though the flowers are tiny, drab, and wind-pollinated. >Technically, almost everything that is an angiosperm has flowers >of some sort. > Earl, you are one guy whom I will _never_ invite around to play Trivial Pursuit... :) - -- Julian (...lurking nowadays) jules@bigjules.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 02:26:07 +0000 (GMT) From: "The blue eyes, the leather, some guys just like leather" Subject: Re: IN> The Spear of Destiny Wasn't the spear of destiny the thing that hitler had to stop the dc superheroes from attacking during world war 2? sorry In Nomine and comics are getting too intertwined for me Starsurfer ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #836 ******************************* The material here is (C) 1997 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. 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