From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Sat Apr 3 05:21:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA15423 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 05:21:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id FAA09736 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 05:17:56 -0600 Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 05:17:56 -0600 Message-Id: <199904031117.FAA09736@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1188 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Saturday, April 3 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1188 In this digest: Re: IN> Why on earth can't Malakim fall? Re: IN> Why on earth can't Malakim fall? Re: IN> Why on earth can't Malakim fall? IN> First Celestial Census Results! IN> "Perelandra" excerpt Re: IN> Why on earth can't Malakim fall? IN> Myrphy's Rules... Re: IN> Why on earth can't Malakim fall? Re: IN> Why on earth can't Malakim fall? Re: IN> Why on earth can't Malakim fall? Re: IN> Myrphy's Rules... Re: IN> Why on earth can't Malakim fall? Re: IN> Why on earth can't Malakim fall? IN> Hello Everyone (fwd) Re: IN> Hello Everyone (fwd) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 11:18:42 +0200 From: Yossi Gurvitz Subject: Re: IN> Why on earth can't Malakim fall? At 19:12 31/03/99 , you wrote: >At the least, a Malakite's next vessel might tend to look a lot >like his previous vessel. Why bother to do other than run off >another copy? (Well, I suppose you don't want to give the >mortals the impression that there are Secret Clone Wars going >on, but aside from that...) ...and in two weeks, Game agents will sent photographs of those vessels to every demon in creation, with the subtitle: "Have you seen this guy? Then know you're being stalked by a Malakite of Lawrance." Not a good idea. "Hmm, broad shoulders, blue eyes, blond hair, scar on left cheek - damn it, not another Malakite! Quick, get me some plane tickets - one way, to some other place. Any place in the other hemisphere will do...." Yours, Yossi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:58:55 +0100 (BST) From: Richard Drysdale Subject: Re: IN> Why on earth can't Malakim fall? On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Yossi Gurvitz wrote: > At 19:12 31/03/99 , you wrote: > > > At the least, a Malakite's next vessel might tend to look a lot > > like his previous vessel. Why bother to do other than run off > > another copy? (Well, I suppose you don't want to give the > > mortals the impression that there are Secret Clone Wars going > > on, but aside from that...) > > ...and in two weeks, Game agents will sent photographs of those vessels > to every demon in creation, with the subtitle: "Have you seen this guy? > Then know you're being stalked by a Malakite of Lawrance." Not a good > idea. "Hmm, broad shoulders, blue eyes, blond hair, scar on left cheek - > damn it, not another Malakite! Quick, get me some plane tickets - one way, > to some other place. Any place in the other hemisphere will do...." > And this is why every so often instead of giving that vessel to a Malakite it is instead given to, say, a Mercurian of Novalis... - - Richard Drysdale Balseraph of Fate, Vassal of Archives, Explaining Things to His Boss ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 03:00:49 -0800 From: "Kelly St.Clair" Subject: Re: IN> Why on earth can't Malakim fall? When thinking of nearly-identical mass-produced Malakite vessels, in a variety of models or styles, a certain movie (or movies) comes irresistably to mind. "Listen and understand. That Malakite is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel fear, or pity, or remorse. And it absolutely will not stop... EVER... until you are dead." -- an experienced Demon explaining the situation to a new Soldier of Hell - -------------- Kelly St.Clair kellys@efn.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:03:37 -0500 (EST) From: Casca Subject: IN> First Celestial Census Results! The April 1 deadline has passd and I've tallied the results of the First Celestial Census. As is appropriate for the Easter season, the Heavenly Host outnumbers the Infernal Horde by a 2:1 ratio! The breakdown is as follows. Heaven: 16 Hell: 9 - ----------- -------- Seraphim: 4 Balseraphim: 3 Cherubim: 2 Djinn: 1 Ofanim: 0 Calabim: 1 Elohim: 6 (!) Habbalah: 2 Malakim: 1 Lilim: 0 Kyriotates: 0 Shedim: 1 Mercurian: 1 Impudites: 0 Bright Lilim: 2 Soldiers: 1 Soldiers: 0 Superiors represented: - ---------------------- Beth, AA of Archives (1 servitor, plus the AA herself) Blandine David Dominic Eli, in service to Blandine Eli, in service to Yves Eli, direct service (2) Janus Jean Michael Uriel, in service to Eli Uriel (Tsayadim) (1) Yves Asmodeus Beth, DP of Nitpicking Haagenti Kronos Nybbas (2) Valefor Unnamed DP of Truth Word-Bound - ---------- Heaven: 4 Hell: 2 Further information available upon request. Be sure to participate again next year! - -- Casca, Seraph of Archives (bertishg@db.erau.edu) "...I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of His robe filled the temple. Above Him were seraphs, each with six wings: with two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying...At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook, and the temple was filled with smoke." -- Isaiah 6:2,4 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 10:20:10 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: IN> "Perelandra" excerpt In the novel "Perelandra," by C. S. Lewis, the hero, Ransom, encounters two extraterrestrial "Superiors" (to translate into IN terms). They have never dealt with humans before, and they ask Ransom to advise them as they try out different manifestations for appearing to the Adam and Eve of Venus. Among other interesting things, the passage illustrates why humans don't react well to manifest Kyriotates. Earl - ---- "They are already well up the mountain's side," said Perelandra. "And our hour is upon us. Let us prepare shapes. We are hard for them to see while we remain in ourselves." "It is well said," answered Malacandra. "But in what form shall we show ourselves to do them honour?" "Let us appear to the small one here," said the other. "For he is a man and can tell us what is pleasing to their senses." "I can see-- I can see *something* even now," said Ransom. "Would you have the King strain his eyes to see those who come to do him honour?" said the archon of Perelandra. "But look on this and tell us how it deals with you." The very faint light -- the almost imperceptible alteration in the visual field -- which betokens an [angel] vanished suddenly. The rosy peaks and the calm pool vanished also. A tornado of sheer monstrosities seemed to be pouring over Ransom. Darting pillars filled with eyes, lightning pulsations of flame, talons and beaks and billowy masses of what suggested snow, volleyed through cubes and heptagons into an infinite black void. "Stop it ... stop it," he yelled, and the scene cleared. He gazed round blinking on the field of lilies, and presently gave the [angels] to understand that this kind of appearance was not suited to human sensations. "Look then on this," said the voices again. And he looked with some reluctance, and far off between the peaks on the other side of the little valley there came rolling wheels. There was nothing but that -- concentric wheels moving with a rather sickening slowness one inside the other. There was nothing terrible about them if you could get used to their appalling size, but there was also nothing significant. He bade them try yet a third time. And suddenly two human figures stood before him on the opposite side of the lake. ... The faces surprised him very much. Nothing less like the "angel" of popular art could well be imagined. The rich variety, the hint of undeveloped possibilities, which make the interest of human faces, were entirely absent. One single, changeless expression -- so clear that it hurt and dazzled him -- was stamped on each and there was nothing else there at all. In that sense their faces were as "primitive," as unnatural, if you like, as those of archaic statues from Aegina. What this one thing was he could not be certain. He concluded in the end that it was charity. But it was terrifyingly different from the expression of human charity, which we always see either blossoming out of, or hastening to descend into, natural affection. Here there was no affection at all: no least lingering memory of it even at ten million years' distance, no germ from which it could spring in any future, however remote. Pure, spiritual, intellectual love shot from their faces like barbed lightning. It was so unlike the love we experience that it could easily be mistaken for ferocity. ... "But do I see you as you really are?" he asked. "Only [God] sees any creature as it really is," said Mars. "How do you see one another?" asked Ransom. "There are no holding places in your mind for an answer to that." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 17:05:32 +0200 From: Yossi Gurvitz Subject: Re: IN> Why on earth can't Malakim fall? At 11:58 02/04/99 , you wrote: >And this is why every so often instead of giving that vessel to a Malakite >it is instead given to, say, a Mercurian of Novalis... ...which still identifies the Mercurian as an angel. Bad idea. Yours, Yossi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:30:11 -0600 From: Seth Buntain Subject: IN> Myrphy's Rules... Imagine my suprise, paging through Murphy's Rules (my recent SJG purchase), and seeing Elizabeth "ArchDean" McCoy commenting on Gurps IOU, and its propensity of giving Cats academic status. :) Im drunk, so you'll forgive me the giggle when I see a familiar name in print :). - -- Seth Buntain Northwestern University enthar@nwu.edu "Magic is always the best solution, especially reliable magic." - -from the program 'fortune'. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 23:58:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Anders Gabrielsson Subject: Re: IN> Why on earth can't Malakim fall? On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Yossi Gurvitz wrote: > At 11:58 02/04/99 , you wrote: > > >And this is why every so often instead of giving that vessel to a Malakite > >it is instead given to, say, a Mercurian of Novalis... > ...which still identifies the Mercurian as an angel. Bad idea. OTOH, if there are typical "Mercurian of Novalis"-vessels it might be amusing to do it the other way around. "Hey guys, look! It's another one of those monkey-lovin' flower-power freaks! Let's go mess 'im up a bit!" Anders Gabrielsson anders@stp.ling.uu.se The contents of this message belong to me and nobody else. So there! We don't get extra credit for how much suffering we endure. The only score worth keeping is how little suffering we inflict and how much we relieve. - Ghost ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 17:22:43 -0500 From: Ben Aldred Subject: Re: IN> Why on earth can't Malakim fall? At 05:05 PM 4/2/99 +0200, you wrote: >At 11:58 02/04/99 , you wrote: > >>And this is why every so often instead of giving that vessel to a Malakite >>it is instead given to, say, a Mercurian of Novalis... > ...which still identifies the Mercurian as an angel. Bad idea. So you give the vessel to an impudite of valefor. then its like of don't worry its a malakite of laurence hey where'd he go and where my demon slayer artifact given to me by michael himself?!? Ben, Elohite of flowers serving stone and occasionaly dark humor angel of intentional communities and demon of raNdom capitalization ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:46:44 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Why on earth can't Malakim fall? At 5:05 PM +0200 4/2/99, Yossi Gurvitz wrote: >At 11:58 02/04/99 , you wrote: > >>And this is why every so often instead of giving that vessel to a Malakite >>it is instead given to, say, a Mercurian of Novalis... > ...which still identifies the Mercurian as an angel. Bad idea. . o O (So give it to a Seraph of Novalis. Sure, it's an angel, but what are they going to *do* about it?) - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:46:47 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Myrphy's Rules... At 2:30 PM -0600 4/2/99, Seth Buntain wrote: >Imagine my suprise, paging through Murphy's Rules (my recent SJG purchase), >and seeing Elizabeth "ArchDean" McCoy commenting on Gurps IOU, and its >propensity of giving Cats academic status. :) Thankyew, thankyew. (Mind, I *co-authored* GURPS IOU, so it gets even more amusing...) - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:06:16 -0600 (CST) From: Elizabeth Bartley Subject: Re: IN> Why on earth can't Malakim fall? On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Anders Gabrielsson wrote: > OTOH, if there are typical "Mercurian of Novalis"-vessels it might be > amusing to do it the other way around. > "Hey guys, look! It's another one of those monkey-lovin' flower-power > freaks! Let's go mess 'im up a bit!" IMC, Vessels can be transferred between Celestials, and War angels will buy known Vessels of Renegades the Game is actively hunting for. Mind you, they don't ordinarily pay much for them, but if you've got a spare Vessel and don't dare use that one anyway, it's not a bad deal. Elizabeth Bartley e-bartley@pobox.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:09:19 -0600 (CST) From: Elizabeth Bartley Subject: Re: IN> Why on earth can't Malakim fall? On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > >>And this is why every so often instead of giving that vessel to a Malakite > >>it is instead given to, say, a Mercurian of Novalis... > > ...which still identifies the Mercurian as an angel. Bad idea. > . o O (So give it to a Seraph of Novalis. Sure, it's an angel, > but what are they going to *do* about it?) Why, you shoot the Seraph from a distance, of course. (The Seraph of Novalis ability is a handicap if you can't turn it *off* when you're being shot at from a distance, or otherwise need to be violent, and it's an immensely powerful ability if you can.) Elizabeth Bartley e-bartley@pobox.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:33:25 -0600 (CST) From: paranial@creighton.edu Subject: IN> Hello Everyone (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:27:20 -0600 (CST) From: paranial@creighton.edu To: in_nomine@lists.io.com Subject: Hello Everyone Hi, I am Bradley Paranial. I am 18 years old (19 in April) a student at Creighton University and new to "In Nomine". I would just like to say "Hello" and produce the following little vignette: (Small advertisment floating around the Angelic Community:) Are you an Outcast, Creationer, Gabarelite, Michealite, Someone with a little Dissonance or had Eli over for Lunch? Is the Local triad coming to close for your comfort? Feel as though you can't do anything about it? You're Wrong. "Ducking Judgement: 15 ways to shake the Divine Inquistion", containe 30 pages of helpful advice as to how to evade (or survive) those pesky Domincans. Such helpful hints on running from cherubs attuned to you, outrunning Onafim and wrose comes to wrose, fighting Malakim and wining. If you like having your forces togeth this book is for you. "Ducking Judgement: 15 ways to shake the Divine Inquistion" available at a Tether near you, from Creation Press. Hope you like, Bradley Paranial, Who thinks that Slick Willy is every Balseraph's Hero. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 04:17:43 -0800 From: Steel Angel Subject: Re: IN> Hello Everyone (fwd) paranial@creighton.edu wrote: > Hi, I am Bradley Paranial. I am 18 years old (19 in April) a student at > Creighton University and new to "In Nomine". I would just like to say > "Hello" and produce the following little vignette: > > (Small advertisment floating around the Angelic Community:) > > Are you an Outcast, Creationer, Gabarelite, Michealite, Someone with a > little Dissonance or had Eli over for Lunch? *Looks over the pamphlet and smiles to the Seraph and Elohite in his triad* "Well, a least -I'm- allowed to lie, hm? Let's see how many false attacks from the 'Dominicans' I can shake next month to prove my case." > Bradley Paranial, Who thinks that Slick Willy is every Balseraph's Hero. We'll get him, just you wait. He hasta die sometime, and we'll see who's laughing as Kobal taps his Essence. - - Abracax: Shedite of Riots but speaking for Daniel, Malakite of Judgement ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #1188 ******************************** The material here is (C) 1999 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.