From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Wed Apr 21 08:29:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA14868 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:29:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id IAA02901 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:26:16 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:26:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199904211326.IAA02901@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1205 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Wednesday, April 21 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1205 In this digest: IN> Monty Python fluff Re: IN> Monty Python fluff IN> Publishing Company for Sale! IN> remove Re: IN> Holy grail fluff IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) IN> Song of Charm (Re: Children and Celestials) Re: IN> Song of Charm (Re: Children and Celestials) Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) Re: IN> [FLUFF] The Search for the Holy Grail (long) IN> Micheal and Yves Re: IN> Micheal and Yves ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:26:45 -0500 From: Brent Subject: IN> Monty Python fluff My apologies to those who didn't like the Monty Python stuff. You're right, it was far from original. It's just the list has been so dreary lately, and I had hoped it might liven things up a bit. Ah well, I suppose we all have our off days. - -Brent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 00:42:45 -0400 From: "James M. Zoshak" Subject: Re: IN> Monty Python fluff >My apologies to those who didn't like the Monty Python stuff. You're >right, it was far from original. It's just the list has been so dreary >lately, and I had hoped it might liven things up a bit. > >Ah well, I suppose we all have our off days. If I may say, Brent, at the risk of being found intellectually barren by the people who censured you, I found the fluff amusing. I actually forwarded it to some members of my own group. It was noise, but cute noise nonetheless. :) Just couldn't stand by and see you thinking you were devoid of creativity. 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What I'm about to present is something I've > never done before...something that I'll never do again.... > So PAY ATTENTION! > > For the past few years...I've have been running ads in > newspapers & magazines, by direct mail, and throughout > the internet. These ads were always small and very cheap... > > On these ads, we have been selling little manuals. These > manuals have sold for anywhere between $10 to $99 each. > We always ran different ads for each manual we were selling. > > I like selling information because NOBODY can put a price on > it...ESPECIALLY when it is your own...The Sky is the Limit! > > Plus it is very cheap to reproduce How-To manuals. It costs > between 40 cents and $3 to print the entire print manuals and > around 35 cents to copy the manuals on disk. AND you can > sell them for up to $99 each. That is one hell of a markup! > > These manuals tell you how to get a car with no money down > and no credit...another one tells you how to avoid taxes by > depositing income offshore...now you may not be interested in > saving money by going offshore...but believe me....there are > MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO DO...and they are willing to pay > me to teach them!!! > > Well this is where the unbelievable offer comes in...I hope you > are sitting down for this one...because this is a once in a > lifetime chance for you. I do not know of an easier way to > become financially independent...In fact THERE IS NO EASIER WAY!!! > The next few paragraphs will reveal everything to you. > > I am willing to sell you my entire informational product line > with FULL REPRINT RIGHTS and complete step-by-step > instructions on how to start your mail order information business > with very little money. > > Remember, these are PROVEN WINNERS. If you are > stumped on something to sell or if you are having trouble > writing a good ad, I have also included an entire book on > disk to help you produce KILLER ads! > > This entire package which I call a Publishing Company in a > Box will come on 1 CD containing over 2000 'Hot-Selling' > Books, Reports And Manuals ready to print and sell, Sell, > SELL! It also will come with a signed letter giving YOU FULL > REPRINT RIGHTS allowing you to sell them for as much as > you want and however you want. You Can even sell the entire > kit to someone else to resale on their own! You also receive > copies of KILLER ads which can fill your mailbox with cash! > > I am not even going to ask you for any of the money either... > What you make is yours to keep . In fact...you get to make a > ton of money on these manuals for as long as you wish...and > you will never have to pay me another red cent in royalties! > > I am even going to print out and prepare our #1 selling report > which contains the secrets of obtaining credit without a credit > check and producing an offshore income without taxes so that > you will be able to take it down to your local copy shop and be > ready to sell it the same day you have received it. Watch out > though - one individual is making $70,000 a month on this report > alone! (Why - Because you can include a FREE offshore credit > application for those with bad or no credit with this report and > explode your mailbox with orders) Note: THIS APPLICATION IS > INCLUDED! > > All I ask for is...$149 and I will include FREE Priority Mail > Shipping! Yes, I said $149. There are no zeros missing. > Plus if you order before April 24th, 1999 I will include > 4 extra special bonuses... > > Bonus #1 - "Search Engine Magic" on disk. This report will > shoot your web site up to the top of the search engine listings. > Other web advertisers are selling this manual for $99 by > itself - But I will give it to you for FREE with this package. > > Bonus #2 - The report "How to Make at least $1,600 a week > online...Starting Now!" which is taking the internet by storm > will be included absolutely FREE! > > Bonus #3 - I will include special details about a secret source > for direct mail leads that can produce cash orders along with > out KILLER ads. And another source will be given which > allows you to advertise nationwide through newspapers to > 70,000,000 readers for as low as 7 cents per word. > > Bonus #4 - I also will include a pre-approved application for > a merchant account for your business benefit. Taking credit > cards will increase your business up to 100%. The normal > $195 application fee will be waved with this pre-approved > application. > > But there is one drawback... I am sending this ad to 10,000 > other people...and I will only allow 50 kits to be sold. It > wouldn't make much sense if I sold this kit to 1,000 or 2,000 > people...The market would be saturated with these same manuals... > and I don't want to do that. To make sure that the people in > this offer get the same results I have...ONLY 50 people can have > it for $149.00! > > Chances are, I will get all 50 within a week's time. So if this > is something you are interested in...RUSH me a check or money > order for $149.00 TODAY to insure your future business. > > But, even if you decide to pass this up...Don't sweat it. It's > not like I am going to be mad or anything like that. I know I > will get my 50 order limit really fast. And anyone who gets > their check into me late... I will simply send it back. > > For only $149.00, I am going to let you have the easiest money > you will ever make. The manuals are written, the ads are > presented, the advertising plan is laid out, and all you have > to do is print them out for pennies and place the ads. > > Do it today! Rush me your payment of $149.00 right now...and > get your very own MILLION DOLLAR publishing company going! > > You can start with one or two manuals...even the day you > receive the package...and then expand to include ALL of them! > > For $149.00, you have everything you need to make a killing > with your very own business. If you want to make real > money - then this offer is for you! > > "I took the report "Search Engine Magic" and sold over 50 > copies on disk within 2 weeks! They sold for $99 and I was > able to copy them for under 50 cents each. Wait till I start > marketing the other products included in this line!!!" > Joe Fisher - Internet Marketer > > To rush order this "MILLION DOLLAR Publishing Company in > a Box" simply fill out the order form below and fax it to > our 24 hour order line at: > > FAX ORDER LINE: > 1 (212) 504-8032 > > Regular Mail to: > Financial Systems > P.O. Box 301 > Orange, Ma 01364 > > ORDER FORM > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Please send to: > > Your Name__________________________________________ > > Your Address________________________________________ > > Your City____________________________________________ > > State / Zip___________________________________________ > > Phone #: ____________________________________________ > (For problems with your order only. No salesmen will call.) > > Email Address_______________________________________ > > We Accept Checks or Money Orders along with all Major Credit Cards > including Visa, MasterCard and American Express. (NOTE - We only > ship to the address listed on the credit card) > > (Please Fill Out Below Section and Make sure that the above name > and address are listed as it appears on the card) for $149.00 > > Credit Card Number:________________________________ > > Expiration Date:___________________________ > > Signature:_________________________ > > Date:____________________ > > [ ] YES! Please rush my Publishing Company in a Box. I > understand I have FULL REPRINT Rights and can sell any of > the items for whatever price I desire, even the entire kit. > > [ ] DOUBLE YES! I am ordering before April 24th 1999! > Please include the extra special bonuses! > > * Please check one of the following payment options: > [ ] I am faxing a check (Do not send original, we will make a > draft from the faxed check) > > [ ] I am faxing or mailing my credit card number. (Note your > card will be charged for $149.00 and we only ship to the address > on the card) > > [ ] I am enclosing a check or money order for $149.00! > > Note - If ordering outside continental US, please add $5 to S&H > > P.S. Don't forget you will receive 2,000 Manuals, Books, and > Reports (Some of which are up to 200 pages each)...all for > $149...You have full reprint and resale rights to make as much > money as you want without ever paying any royalties whatsoever! > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > You have been carefully selected to receive the following as > a person obviously interested in this subject based upon your > previous internet postings, or visits to one of our affiliate > web sites. If you have received this message in error, hit Reply > and type remove in the subject line. > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:41:49 +0200 From: cd skogsberg Subject: Re: IN> Holy grail fluff Hydrax 59 wrote: > > JANUS throws the grenade at the RABBIT. There is an explosion > > and cheering from the ARCHANGELS. > >ALL ARCHANGELS: Praise be to the Lord. Huzzah! > Even Jordi? I'm figuring that he'd be pretty annoyed that they killed > his new improved rabbit which he was just about to re;lease upon the > world to show those humans whos really boss. Heh. I just realized, Bun-Bun[1] is some kind of extremely violent Kobalite. And let's not even *talk* about Mecha-Easter-Bunny...[2] /cd, who won't even go into Goats[3] and the whole "dungeons and hamsters"[4] bit... [1]: http://www.sluggy.com/ [2]: http://www.sluggy.com/archive/990315.html [3]: http://www.goats.com/ [4]: http://www.goats.com/archive/index.html?990202 - -- "Bob Dhole wants to put your brain in a canister." -- Bill Walsh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:27:24 -0500 (CDT) From: paranial@creighton.edu Subject: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) This is for Evereyone who belives that kids can see things adults can't: Elijiah was justs finishing his report to Dominic. There was nothing to report that was really worth The Archangel of Judgment's atention. It was the prefunctionary weekly vist, nothing more just as he was about to Elijiah let loose a chuckle. "What is it that you find so amusing?" Dominic said stopping in his tracks "Nothing Archangel Dominic!" said now somewhat frightened "I thought you knew better than to lie to me Elijiah" The Archangel of Judgement said "You have to be laughing at something, The Powers are not known for spontanuos emotional outburst over "nothing" it has to be about something as you are not dissonant." The Elohite then stumbled for words "It was merely something that happend earlier today not worth mentioning." "I shall be the judge of that" Dominic replied "Well I was in the park" he began, "when I heard this child crying, she had appearently gotten lost. After about fifteen minuetes I was able to reunite her with her family, then just as the were leaving she turned to me asked me if I was an angel" "And what was your reply?" he asked more curious than anything "I did not answer that question" he replied Elijiah saw a faint shurg under the heavy robes "Childeren seem to recognize us for some reason." was all he said before vanishing. Children see the world more differently that adults, the see dragons, faries, castles, buried treasure and back rooms in libaries with nice old men. The are also more like to remember there dreams, and can snese Celestials. There is no real game mechanics, they just know if the guy down the road is an angel or a demon. They will of course naturally warm up to angels and run from demons, if a demon tries to approach a child all he will get is the accuastion of being a "Bad man" and a screaming, running kid for ther trouble. More bothering for demons is that any infrenal resonances or attuments is HARD to use against children (treat the tyke's Will as though it were THREE TIMES what it actually is and add two to the check didgit) Special Note: This also aplies to "mental children" and the other pure of heart. Comments welcome Bradley Paranial ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:53:42 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) Well, it goes along with there being an Archangel of Children but no obvious opposite Demon Prince. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:36:29 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) At 12:53 PM -0500 4/20/99, Earl Wajenberg wrote: >Well, it goes along with there being an Archangel of Children >but no obvious opposite Demon Prince. > >Earl I would personally think that Demon Princes wouldn't miss a trick like that. After all, children may be innocent, but innocence can lead to mind-numbing selfishess as well as selflessness. The sooner they come in, the sooner they go out. I'm unsure about children sort of "instantly knowing" Angels, though. - -- Eric Alfred Burns | | now with web site content! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 10:43:04 -0800 From: Steel Angel Subject: Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) paranial@creighton.edu wrote: > There is no real game mechanics, they just know if the guy down the road > is an angel or a demon. They will of course naturally warm up to angels > and run from demons, if a demon tries to approach a child all he will get > is the accuastion of being a "Bad man" and a screaming, running kid for > ther trouble. > > More bothering for demons is that any infrenal resonances or attuments is > HARD to use against children (treat the tyke's Will as though it were > THREE TIMES what it actually is and add two to the check didgit) This can be -vastly- abused in so many ways, both Celestial and Diabolical. If you're say, a Malakite of Jordi and don't much care...a human child is the -perfect- demon detector. Conversely, if you're a Balseraph and you get your Resonance to work on a child you have a better 'in' with the angels than you could hope for. "Oh no! Mr. Cypher -is- an angel! Really!" Then, of course, there's the ol' Shedite of Malphas attunement. Willpower? What willpower? Just hop in and start making the kid point out angels to your demon buddies. Or, if that won't work because the kid's in a dream-fugue just -lie- and point out 'demons' (innocent bystanders) to the angels. Not really the best idea, is it? It also utterly destroys Nybbas's reason for being if his demons can't possibly get in with the kiddies early on. Same with Andrealphus. - - Abracax: Shedite of Riots ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:40:00 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) Whistling in the Dark wrote: > I'm unsure about children sort of "instantly knowing" Angels, > though. Maybe young potential Soldiers. Godscouts. They earn Virtue badges. Given to them by Virtues. And sell manna door to door. And they don't stop at one good deed for the day... Earl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:47:11 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) Steel Angel wrote: > Willpower? What willpower? Just hop in and start making the kid... *Cough* Are you a parent? I haven't been one for long, but my impression is that your average toddler can give your average cat a very good run for its money in a contest of wills. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:56:37 -0500 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) Steel Angel wrote: > Then, of course, there's the ol' Shedite of Malphas attunement. > Willpower? What willpower? Just hop in and start making the kid point First, the Shedite still needs to make the Will contest to get into the body in the first place (as I read it). Second, with only the host's memories and not the host's _mind_, the Shedite will only be able to point out previously known celestials. - -EDG - -- EDG, Mercurian of Lightning ist Archives, Angel of Information Dissemination anthoch@earlham.edu "And if love remains though everything is lost We will pay the price, but we will not count the cost" - Rush ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:18:52 -0500 (CDT) From: paranial@creighton.edu Subject: Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Steel Angel wrote: > paranial@creighton.edu wrote: > > > There is no real game mechanics, they just know if the guy down the road > > is an angel or a demon. They will of course naturally warm up to angels > > and run from demons, if a demon tries to approach a child all he will get > > is the accuastion of being a "Bad man" and a screaming, running kid for > > ther trouble. > > > > More bothering for demons is that any infrenal resonances or attuments is > > HARD to use against children (treat the tyke's Will as though it were > > THREE TIMES what it actually is and add two to the check didgit) > > This can be -vastly- abused in so many ways, both Celestial and > Diabolical. If you're say, a Malakite of Jordi and don't much care...a > human child is the -perfect- demon detector. Conversely, if you're a > Balseraph and you get your Resonance to work on a child you have a > better 'in' with the angels than you could hope for. > "Oh no! Mr. Cypher -is- an angel! Really!" > Then, of course, there's the ol' Shedite of Malphas attunement. > Willpower? What willpower? Just hop in and start making the kid point > out angels to your demon buddies. Or, if that won't work because the > kid's in a dream-fugue just -lie- and point out 'demons' (innocent > bystanders) to the angels. > Not really the best idea, is it? It also utterly destroys Nybbas's > reason for being if his demons can't possibly get in with the kiddies > early on. Same with Andrealphus. > > - Abracax: Shedite of Riots > A little errata on the last point: The kid's "Celestial Radar" only works when the he sees the guy in person, not on TV. Note #2: Kids can see right through the Balseraph of Fate attunement. But not Asmodeus' Humanity attunement Bradley Paranial, Mercurian of War, Slayer of Snuggles Demon of Cuteness ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:11:10 EDT From: BillionSix@aol.com Subject: Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) In a message dated 4/20/99 1:50:12 PM Central Daylight Time, earlw@mc.com writes: << *Cough* Are you a parent? I haven't been one for long, but my impression is that your average toddler can give your average cat a very good run for its money in a contest of wills. >> He's talking about Shedim of Malphas, who have the power to completely ignore the will of whoever they're inhabiting. Be as tough as you want, it won't slow these guys down. Brian A Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:27:48 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) At 5:11 PM -0400 4/20/99, BillionSix@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 4/20/99 1:50:12 PM Central Daylight Time, earlw@mc.com >writes: > ><< *Cough* Are you a parent? I haven't been one for long, but > my impression is that your average toddler can give your > average cat a very good run for its money in a contest of wills. > >> >He's talking about Shedim of Malphas, who have the power to completely ignore >the will of whoever they're inhabiting. Be as tough as you want, it won't >slow these guys down. Actually, by my reading, they don't have to make Will rolls to _assert_ control -- i.e., they don't have to make Will rolls to make their rides do Evil Deeds. They still have to roll normally to _take_ control. Of course, what you do is hit the little blighters with a Celestial Charm aimed at their Will, then move right in. And _then_, there's no Will there to fight. The Shedite is alone in there. - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:41:48 EDT From: BillionSix@aol.com Subject: Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) In a message dated 4/20/99 4:24:35 PM Central Daylight Time, emccoy@nh.ultranet.com writes: << Actually, by my reading, they don't have to make Will rolls to _assert_ control -- i.e., they don't have to make Will rolls to make their rides do Evil Deeds. They still have to roll normally to _take_ control. Of course, what you do is hit the little blighters with a Celestial Charm aimed at their Will, then move right in. And _then_, there's no Will there to fight. The Shedite is alone in there. >> Well, yeah, that's what I meant! (Sure. Yeah. Whatever.) :) I like that Celestial Charm bit. Naaaaasty! That also works for Kyrios, and most other types of demon. Most people don't realize at first glance what a powerful tool that Charm Song is. I sure didn't! Me! (Brian A Rogers) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:55:44 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> Song of Charm (Re: Children and Celestials) At 5:41 PM -0400 4/20/99, BillionSix@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 4/20/99 4:24:35 PM Central Daylight Time, >emccoy@nh.ultranet.com writes: > >>Of course, what you do is hit the little blighters with a Celestial >>Charm aimed at their Will, then move right in. And _then_, there's >>no Will there to fight. The Shedite is alone in there. >I like that Celestial Charm bit. Naaaaasty! >That also works for Kyrios, and most other types of demon. Most people don't >realize at first glance what a powerful tool that Charm Song is. I sure >didn't! Oh, it's *vital*! Lilim make great use of it, just before invoking a Geas, Impudites might like it before Charming and Essence-sucking someone (they get back what they spent, if they're lucky!), all the other Bands go for it... Kyriotates are the only angels who _really_ go for it, but if you're a high-CelForce of either side and want to not be noticed by mundanes as you go celestial, you may find utility in dropping someone's Perception. Like that annoying Soldier over there... - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:27:08 -0500 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> Song of Charm (Re: Children and Celestials) Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > Kyriotates are the only angels who _really_ go for it, but if you're > a high-CelForce of either side and want to not be noticed by mundanes > as you go celestial, you may find utility in dropping someone's > Perception. Like that annoying Soldier over there... If you use Charm to drop someone's Perception, does it affect their roll to detect the Essence use? - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 18:25:12 -0800 From: Steel Angel Subject: Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) Earl Wajenberg wrote: > *Cough* Are you a parent? I haven't been one for long, but > my impression is that your average toddler can give your > average cat a very good run for its money in a contest of wills. These are the same children so easily induced to lie at child abuse trials? :) Children can be -stubborn-, but they can also be manipulated pretty easily. - - Abracax: Shedite of Riots ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 18:27:28 -0800 From: Steel Angel Subject: Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) EDG wrote: > > Steel Angel wrote: > > Then, of course, there's the ol' Shedite of Malphas attunement. > > Willpower? What willpower? Just hop in and start making the kid point > > First, the Shedite still needs to make the Will contest to get into the > body in the first place (as I read it). Second, with only the host's > memories and not the host's _mind_, the Shedite will only be able to > point out previously known celestials. Unless, as I pointed out, he -lies-. Far more havoc to be wreaked that way. - - Abracax: Shedite of Riots ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:21:35 PDT From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: Re: IN> [FLUFF] The Search for the Holy Grail (long) Beautiful, just beautiful. :) >MICHAEL: Keep me covered. > >[Stir among Archangels] > >DAVID: What with? Lol! >JANUS: Where? >YVES: There. >NOVALIS: Behind the rabbit? >YVES: It is the rabbit. >JORDI: Bloody *right!* >LAURENCE: Go on, Uriel, chop its head off! Hee hee . . . >URIEL: Right. Silly little bleeder. One rabbit stew coming up. >YVES: Look! > > As YVES points they all spin round to see the RABBIT leap at DAVID'S (Uriel's) >YVES: Did I tell you? Did you listen to me? Oh no, no, you knew better >didn't you? No, it's just an ordinary rabbit isn't it. The names >you called me. Well, don't say I didn't tell you. >MICHAEL: Oh, shut up. Ha ha ha . . . >NOVALIS: Maybe if we gave it some carrots.... >ALL ARCHANGELS: Bugger off, you green twit. >MARC: Do we have any bows? >DAVID: No. :) >JEAN: We have the Holy Hand Grenade. :) >ALL ARCHANGELS: Praise be to the Lord. Huzzah! Very nice. Thank you, Brent for bringing this into my life. :) - -Perry perrylloyd@hotmail.com "Plots and Plans. What everyone should have to cook with." - Elizabeth McCoy (personal interview 3/23/99) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:24:25 -0500 (CDT) From: paranial@creighton.edu Subject: IN> Micheal and Yves Simple question, I only have the core book so I don't have the Expanded write-ups. Why does Micheal have such a big problem with Yves. Another Thing, Where can I find the expanded write ups of the above. Bradley Paranial aka Ezekiel Mercurian Vassal of War, who will one day tell how he got the Mercurian of Destiny attunement, with Mike's apporval ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:23:23 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Micheal and Yves I must admit, I've always been a little puzzled by Michael's attitude, too. I get the feeling Derek needed another enemy to fill out some balancing scheme. Earl ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #1205 ******************************** The material here is (C) 1999 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.