From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Thu Apr 22 09:07:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA04767 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:07:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id JAA07196 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:01:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:01:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199904221401.JAA07196@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1206 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Thursday, April 22 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1206 In this digest: Re: IN> Micheal and Yves Re: IN> Micheal and Yves RE: IN> Micheal and Yves IN> Monty Python (a little), Michael and Uriel (more so) Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) Re: IN> Micheal and Yves Re: IN> Song of Charm (Re: Children and Celestials) Re: IN> Song of Charm (Re: Children and Celestials) Re: IN> Monty Python (a little) IN> Children and perception Re: IN> Monty Python (a little) IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver Re: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver Re: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver Re: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver Re: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver Re: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver Re: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver Re: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver IN> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:43:23 -0400 (EDT) IN> Resisting Re: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver Re: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver Re: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:46:53 -0400 (EDT) From: gantr@NKU.EDU Subject: Re: IN> Micheal and Yves On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 paranial@creighton.edu wrote: > Simple question, I only have the core book so I don't have the Expanded > write-ups. Why does Micheal have such a big problem with Yves. I'm not positive, but I think it has to do with Word conflict. Yves has a very subtle Word, and likes to meddle in Human destinies. Michael has a very direct Word, and prefers to leave Humans alone as much as possible. As a result, their two visions of how the War should be prosecuted conflict a lot. > Another Thing, Where can I find the expanded write ups of the above. Yves is in Heaven & Hell. Michael is in Final Trumpet. Richard Gant - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit my web page: Richard Gant's Gaming Ghetto Currently dedicated to In Nomine, Planescape, and Waste World - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:51:06 -0400 From: Matthew Rice Subject: Re: IN> Micheal and Yves Earl Wajenberg wrote: > > I must admit, I've always been a little puzzled by Michael's > attitude, too. I get the feeling Derek needed another enemy > to fill out some balancing scheme. > > Earl I don't know that it's odd, it just seems to be a basic personality clash; aggressive and straightforward versus subtle, low-key, and (the real sticking point) secretive. Seraphs like Mike want facts, and Yves apparantly knows a lot more than he's letting on, heck, he probably knows things that might help win the War! But does he share? Nooooooo. - -- Matthew Rice "The Master said, Just as to sacrifice to ancestors other than one's own is presumption, so to see what is right and not do it is cowardice." - -- Confucius, The Analects, II:24 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:52:25 -0700 From: "Steven Feldon (Exchange)" Subject: RE: IN> Micheal and Yves it's my once-a-month opportunity to say "you could have gotten that information off the INcyclopedia." Specifically, Michael's record (http://www.incyclopedia.org/byname.html#279) and Yves' (http://www.incyclopedia.org/byname.html#465) both show the page reference for basic and expanded writeups. If you _can't_ answer a "Where can I find" question at http://www.incyclopedia.org, please mail me at steve@incyclopedia.org. That's what we're there for. :) steve - -----Original Message----- From: paranial@creighton.edu [mailto:paranial@creighton.edu] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 9:24 PM To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Subject: IN> Micheal and Yves Simple question, I only have the core book so I don't have the Expanded write-ups. Why does Micheal have such a big problem with Yves. Another Thing, Where can I find the expanded write ups of the above. Bradley Paranial aka Ezekiel Mercurian Vassal of War, who will one day tell how he got the Mercurian of Destiny attunement, with Mike's apporval ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:50:14 -0500 From: Brent Subject: IN> Monty Python (a little), Michael and Uriel (more so) Thanks for the kind words, Azrael and Perry. Oh, and cd: Bun-Bun was part of the original inspiration for that piece. We were discussing whether or not that was him in the Monty Python scene, and things got out of hand. On to more serious business, though: Michael and Yves. I can think of a few reasons Michael (and I!) would mistrust the enigmatic old guy: 1.) Yves apparently knows damn near everything, yet he rarely shares that information. Could you imagine being a tactician in a war for infinite stakes, and realizing that your intelligence department was holding back on you, in a big way? 2.) It's been stated (I forget where, Heaven And Hell, perhaps) that Yves does nothing to remove dissonance from his Servitors. Why not? 3.)If you thought of Michael as a bit more petty, well, it could be jealousy. After all, Michael is supposed to be the greatest of the Archangels, but there's Yves with his little smile... 4.) Even though he's some sort of 'higher being' that no one really understands, everyone trusts him. Even Dominic. He's above suspicion. He's above reproach. Now if you were Lucifer, where would *you* try to put a spy...? - -Brent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:00:18 +0300 From: "Tick Tock" Subject: Re: IN> Children and Celestials (fwd) - -----Original Message----- From: Steel Angel > Then, of course, there's the ol' Shedite of Malphas attunement. >Willpower? What willpower? Just hop in and start making the kid point >out angels to your demon buddies. Or, if that won't work because the >kid's in a dream-fugue just -lie- and point out 'demons' (innocent >bystanders) to the angels. Such corruption, even prettily wrapped in the Shedite of Malphas attunment would be a corruption of the purity that allows the child to sense an angel or demon would it not? Hence destroying the use of the child in that manner. This could be abused but I'm uncertain that it would be subject to a "-vast-" abuse. Any angel or demon depending solely on this would be committing one of what is probably a series of tactical errors. Also, though this may seem cynical, I doubt all children at all ages possess that purity of spirit to see. An unusual or exceptional situation, it denotes a child that has not yet learned the poorer lessons of life. Or perhaps that ambiguous individual that "possesses the potential for a sixth force". Tick Tock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:43:29 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Micheal and Yves At 11:24 PM -0500 4/20/99, paranial@creighton.edu wrote: >Simple question, I only have the core book so I don't have the Expanded >write-ups. Why does Micheal have such a big problem with Yves? One reason I've always thought of is that Yves has _everything_ written down in his Library. It says so, several places. This includes everything in Kronos' Archive, and every bit of paperwork in Hades, and any written orders that Baal gives. Now, with all that data, you'd think Heaven could just do the two-step all over demonic backsides. But, obviously, they haven't got that tactical advantage. So, apparently, Yves simply doesn't make that information available to the Seraphim Council. Would _you_ trust him? (Laurence is young, and believes that There Must Be A Divine Reason. Or maybe he doesn't realize that Yves is holding out on him...) Then add in that Yves had Gabriel do something that resulted in Dominic calling for a trial, and Gaby snapped out of whatever sanity she used to have... Was Yves really so surprised that Dominic did that? Demons have been gaining ground since the Fall -- and Yves is still refusing to give over data that could _stop_ this? I don't blame Michael for being... mistrustful. - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:35:50 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Song of Charm (Re: Children and Celestials) At 7:27 PM -0500 4/20/99, EDG wrote: >Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > >> Kyriotates are the only angels who _really_ go for it, but if you're >> a high-CelForce of either side and want to not be noticed by mundanes >> as you go celestial, you may find utility in dropping someone's >> Perception. Like that annoying Soldier over there... > >If you use Charm to drop someone's Perception, does it affect their roll >to detect the Essence use? I'd probably rule yes, since the disturbance is the result of the Song taking effect. - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:04:59 -0400 From: John Karakash - Lucent ASCC Subject: Re: IN> Song of Charm (Re: Children and Celestials) Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > >If you use Charm to drop someone's Perception, does it affect their roll > >to detect the Essence use? > > > > I'd probably rule yes, since the disturbance is the result of the > Song taking effect. This is how I've been adjudicating it. "Didja hear something, Bill? Bill? Hey, wake up?" "Uh, sorry Bob, I didn't hear ya talkin'." - -- ___________________________________________________ / \ | John Karakash - Lucent Technologies/Bell Labs | | (919)388-2665(COOL) MIB2300 | | | | The power to tax involves the power to destroy. | | -Chief Justice Marshall | \___________________________________________________/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:50:52 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Monty Python (a little) At 11:50 AM -0500 4/21/99, Brent wrote: >Thanks for the kind words, Azrael and Perry. (As a note, the best parts were where the IN came through strongly. Brother Hyen--Dominic, indeed. The parts that were just rehashing were, um, rehashed? O;>) - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:00:00 PDT From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: IN> Children and perception Yes, of course (some) children can see celestial forms. Also some animals. It's a "given" in my campaign ... children see things that frighten them or have "imaginary friends," babies talk and smile at invisible people, dogs bark and cats hiss at something no one else sees, and horses take off in a panic for no visible reason. Some of them can sense angels and demons in vessels too, but this is much rarer. (Everyone knows that the old wives' tale that children and dogs can sense whether a person is good or bad is just folklore ...) This does not necessarily make them future Soldier material, or immune to celestial influence. If they continue to have this ability as they grow older and go through puberty, however, it probably *does* mark them as potential Soldiers. And it probably runs in the family ("second sight" and stuff like that). Janet Anderson _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:44:56 -0400 From: "James M. Zoshak" Subject: Re: IN> Monty Python (a little) >(As a note, the best parts were where the IN came through strongly. >Brother Hyen--Dominic, indeed. The parts that were just rehashing >were, um, rehashed? O;>) I just got a big kick out of Jordi saying "Bloody *right!*" when Yves said the rabbit was the monster. :) Azrael, Habbalite of Factions. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:44:56 -0400 (EDT) From: jadasc@ma.ultranet.com (Jason Schneiderman) Subject: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver Caution: This is possibly sick. Spoiler space for those who want it I warned you.... Kobalites only after this point... Isn't there an Impudite with the word of Goth wanabees? And doesn't he work for Saminga? Apparently, our favorite Idiot Prince has been demanding *results*. yours, Jason Schneiderman who likes "Ich bin ein auslander", paints his face white, and was (in high school) known to want the people who picked on him dead, too. Dark reflections all around. - --- jadasc@ma.ultranet.com (life) werther@hilander.com (play) jayafter12am@hotmail.com (late-night) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:54:17 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver At 7:44 PM -0400 4/21/99, Jason Schneiderman wrote: >Caution: This is possibly sick. Spoiler space for those who want it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I warned you.... Kobalites only after this point... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Isn't there an Impudite with the word of Goth wanabees? >And doesn't he work for Saminga? >Apparently, our favorite Idiot Prince has been demanding *results*. Alas, it's Kobal's Servitor, not Saminga's. And this is probably beyond amusing even Kobal. - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:55:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Elizabeth Bartley Subject: Re: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > At 7:44 PM -0400 4/21/99, Jason Schneiderman wrote: > >Caution: This is possibly sick. Spoiler space for those who want it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I warned you.... Kobalites only after this point... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Isn't there an Impudite with the word of Goth wanabees? > >And doesn't he work for Saminga? > >Apparently, our favorite Idiot Prince has been demanding *results*. > > Alas, it's Kobal's Servitor, not Saminga's. And this is probably > beyond amusing even Kobal. Why wouldn't Demon Prince "Childrens' Crusade" Kobal find the Colorado slaughter funny? Elizabeth Bartley e-bartley@pobox.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:04:56 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver At 6:55 PM -0500 4/21/99, Elizabeth Bartley wrote: >On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > >> At 7:44 PM -0400 4/21/99, Jason Schneiderman wrote: >> >Caution: This is possibly sick. Spoiler space for those who want it >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >I warned you.... Kobalites only after this point... >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Isn't there an Impudite with the word of Goth wanabees? >> >And doesn't he work for Saminga? >> >Apparently, our favorite Idiot Prince has been demanding *results*. >> >> Alas, it's Kobal's Servitor, not Saminga's. And this is probably >> beyond amusing even Kobal. > >Why wouldn't Demon Prince "Childrens' Crusade" Kobal find the Colorado >slaughter funny? Because it's been done before. It's not a bunch of kids believing they can actually do something and being sold into slavery, it's a few of rather sick individuals wandering in and having a bloodbath. Definitely more Saminga's style than Kobal's. There's no _art_ to it, no _irony._ - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:26:11 -0400 From: "James M. Zoshak" Subject: Re: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver >At 6:55 PM -0500 4/21/99, Elizabeth Bartley wrote: >>On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: >> >>> At 7:44 PM -0400 4/21/99, Jason Schneiderman wrote: >>> >Caution: This is possibly sick. Spoiler space for those who want it >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >I warned you.... Kobalites only after this point... >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >Isn't there an Impudite with the word of Goth wanabees? >>> >And doesn't he work for Saminga? >>> >Apparently, our favorite Idiot Prince has been demanding *results*. I'm really upset with this "goth" thing. The media is calling them goth because they wore black, and with little more reason. Goth is a buzzword, the same as Dungeons and Dragons. These kids weren't "goth." They weren't "Dungeons and Dragons players." They were seriously disturbed angry Hitler youth with a gun fetish. And none of those things fit with the stereotypical goth or Dungeons and Dragons player.... Azrael, Habbalite of Factions. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:24:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Elizabeth Bartley Subject: Re: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > At 6:55 PM -0500 4/21/99, Elizabeth Bartley wrote: > >On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > >> At 7:44 PM -0400 4/21/99, Jason Schneiderman wrote: > >> >Caution: This is possibly sick. Spoiler space for those who want it > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >I warned you.... Kobalites only after this point... > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >Isn't there an Impudite with the word of Goth wanabees? > >> >And doesn't he work for Saminga? > >> >Apparently, our favorite Idiot Prince has been demanding *results*. > >> > >> Alas, it's Kobal's Servitor, not Saminga's. And this is probably > >> beyond amusing even Kobal. > > > >Why wouldn't Demon Prince "Childrens' Crusade" Kobal find the Colorado > >slaughter funny? > > Because it's been done before. It's not a bunch of kids believing they > can actually do something and being sold into slavery, it's a few > of rather sick individuals wandering in and having a bloodbath. > > Definitely more Saminga's style than Kobal's. There's no _art_ to it, > no _irony._ The joke's on the media, for feeding the frenzy which will lead another couple of crazy kids to get attention by killing people, and on the rest of us, for paying them to do it. Elizabeth Bartley e-bartley@pobox.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:36:38 -0400 (EDT) From: jadasc@ma.ultranet.com (Jason Schneiderman) Subject: Re: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver At 8:26 PM 4/21/99, James M. Zoshak wrote: >I'm really upset with this "goth" thing. The media is calling them goth >because they wore black, and with little more reason. Goth is a buzzword, >the same as Dungeons and Dragons. These kids weren't "goth." Um. They might have been. According to people who knew them (yeah, hearsay, apply grain of salt liberally) they wore white facepaint and black nailpolish, and listened to industrial music and Marilyn Manson. Not that any one of the above makes a person goth, but it is possible... Jason - --- jadasc@ma.ultranet.com (life) werther@hilander.com (play) jayafter12am@hotmail.com (late-night) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:02:06 -0400 From: "James M. Zoshak" Subject: Re: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver >At 8:26 PM 4/21/99, James M. Zoshak wrote: > >>I'm really upset with this "goth" thing. The media is calling them goth >>because they wore black, and with little more reason. Goth is a buzzword, >>the same as Dungeons and Dragons. These kids weren't "goth." > >Um. >They might have been. >According to people who knew them (yeah, hearsay, apply grain of salt >liberally) they wore white facepaint and black nailpolish, and listened to >industrial music and Marilyn Manson. Not that any one of the above makes a >person goth, but it is possible... I was unclear. What I meant was that their being goth, or their playing Dungeons and Dragons, was not the reason they went on a killing spree. The papers often play it up that way because they are popular buzzwords for "evil youth." I'm just bizitching -- ignore me.... Azrael, Habbalite of Factions. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 06:53:50 -0500 From: owner-in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Subject: IN> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:43:23 -0400 (EDT) THIS IS AN ADVERTISEMENT FOR LEGAL TV DE-SCRAMBLER. IF YOU HAVE NO INTEREST IN THIS INFORMATION PLEASE CLICK DELETE NOW. 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Thank you again, Matt Helm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:23:40 -0500 From: Bob the Dancing Monkey Subject: Re: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver At 12:02 AM 4/22/99 -0400, you wrote: >>At 8:26 PM 4/21/99, James M. Zoshak wrote: >> >>>I'm really upset with this "goth" thing. The media is calling them goth >>>because they wore black, and with little more reason. Goth is a buzzword, >>>the same as Dungeons and Dragons. These kids weren't "goth." >> >>Um. >>They might have been. >>According to people who knew them (yeah, hearsay, apply grain of salt >>liberally) they wore white facepaint and black nailpolish, and listened to >>industrial music and Marilyn Manson. Not that any one of the above makes a >>person goth, but it is possible... > >I was unclear. What I meant was that their being goth, or their playing >Dungeons and Dragons, was not the reason they went on a killing spree. The >papers often play it up that way because they are popular buzzwords for >"evil youth." I'm just bizitching -- ignore me.... > > To get back to the original tone of this thread, it ain't Saminga who's dancing on this one. It's Nybbas - he's lovin' every soundbite-lovin' second of this. Not only that, but even if his kingdom of violence had absolutely nothing to do with it, everyone is attributing the thing to him and the evils of the modern media. Which just makes it that much more cool for the pathetic bastards who do these things. I think the only bad part for him was that the bastards took their own life, not giving Nybbas a chance to further milk with courtroom drama and quips. ...so congratulations to the fucking Demon Prince of the Media. The incident may have had nothing to do with him, but guess what? By the end of this, one section of our world comes a little closer to mirroring his twisted art form. Damn it, this incident made me mad. I'm just surprised they haven't jumped on the fact that they played Vampire: the Masquerade yet. - -Drew [O] Drew Johnson - CLA - Office of Info Tech [O] x5-4885 - http://lucix.cla.umn.edu/djohnson/ [O] djohnson@cla.umn.edu - ICQ: 10800645 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:43:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Anders Gabrielsson Subject: Re: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Bob the Dancing Monkey wrote: > Damn it, this incident made me mad. I'm just surprised they haven't jumped > on the fact that they played Vampire: the Masquerade yet. In Swedish radio they've been referred to as a Hitler-cult, a satanist-cult and a vampire-cult. :P Anders Gabrielsson anders@stp.ling.uu.se The contents of this message belong to me and nobody else. So there! We don't get extra credit for how much suffering we endure. The only score worth keeping is how little suffering we inflict and how much we relieve. - Ghost ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:50:24 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> [gallows humor][likely tasteless] IN Denver At 8:23 AM -0500 4/22/99, Bob the Dancing Monkey wrote: > >Damn it, this incident made me mad. I'm just surprised they haven't jumped >on the fact that they played Vampire: the Masquerade yet. > >-Drew They have. Wall Street Journal and San Francisco Chronicle have both made the link. - -- Eric Alfred Burns | | now with web site content! ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #1206 ******************************** The material here is (C) 1999 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.