From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Wed Aug 18 08:22:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA21977 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:22:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id IAA27515 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:20:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:20:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199908181320.IAA27515@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1309 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Wednesday, August 18 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1309 In this digest: IN> Points of View IN> Yet another Body Hit scheme IN> Alertness Re: IN> Blair Witch, yadda yadda Re: IN> Blair Witch, yadda yadda IN> laser printer toner advertisement Re: IN> Campaign Seed - Kaichaman's Challenge Re: IN> Blair Witch, yadda yadda IN> FW: Sunrise, sunset Re: IN> FW: Sunrise, sunset Re: IN> FW: Sunrise, sunset IN> <(©¿©)> What If The Average Person Knew This? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:25:54 PDT From: "Miles 2 Go" Subject: IN> Points of View Greetings, For those of you interested I've put together a website for my face to face In Nomine game, Points of View. Currently its just background, setting, house rules, etc, but I've got a few character backgrounds, and some of the players will be turning in diaries. If you are interested take a look: http://home1.gte.net/wilbanks/pov/pov.htm Regards, Tim _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:31:32 PDT From: "Miles 2 Go" Subject: IN> Yet another Body Hit scheme Greetings, Well, after three sessions of In Nomine, I'm inclined to agree with one of my players who warned me that the body hits are a little out of whack. I've looked over what's out there and here's my variation. It's based off the one by PKitty... Body Hits = [(Corp Forces)x(Strength) / 2] + (vessel)x6 + total forces. Now your average celestial with 3 corp forces, a six strength and a vessel two will have 30 body hits under this system, the same as before. Mortals get a few more hits, but a smaller range. Most importantly, the maximum body hits drops down to 90 (for an 18-force celestial with maximum vessel). Thoughts, comments? Tim _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:37:59 PDT From: "Miles 2 Go" Subject: IN> Alertness Hello again, Excuse the flood of email, I've just got several ideas on different topics. I'm separting them out to make it easier to reply. Anyway one of the first things that got noticed by the person running the human was that she was as blind as a bat. I mean not in the sense of not hearing distirbance, but in not being able to spot things like people following her, or just stuff in the enviornment. This was probably more irritating than usual since she was being stalked by a Djinn and never spotted him. To combat that I've created a new skill, alertness, which adds to perception rolls to see mundane things. Which all humans get as a freebie at level/1. The justification being that humans grow up and learn to spot dangerous things, don't walk out into traffic, etc, while celestials don't know what to watch, but usually don't have a problem since they have reasonable perception anyway. Thoughts or comments? Tim _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:50:48 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Andrew=20Rawlings?= Subject: Re: IN> Blair Witch, yadda yadda >Karonis (the Blair Witch), Demon Prince of the Unknown >The world is full of cracks that no one can see into. >Creepy, huh? Sounds a little too much like a cross between Alaemon The Prince of Secrets and Beleth the Princess of Nighmares. I doubt that either of them would allow this upstart to drain off thier Essence, and Beleth at least has the power to do something about it. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:12:57 EDT From: SdshowTim@aol.com Subject: Re: IN> Blair Witch, yadda yadda Interesting, but i have to agree that it is much to simular to existing princes, and lacking such a definite form it could become a demon of someting by the will of lucifer, but would have to be given to a prince (if only because of its birth conditions limiting it to such a focused area that having a wide enough word to be a prince is a little out there, it would probably be the Demon of the Blair Witch to continue collecting the essence it did, or an existing demon can be named such). Besides being a defined demon prince would go against the very nature of the word the unknown. 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Creation is incomplete; there are parts of the universe that are still the unformed waters of the deep. He left part of Creation unshaped as a challenge to any false gods that sought to claim they were the Most High: could they match His handiwork? I borrowed this idea for my game. This incompleteness manifested differently in each realm -- in the corporeal realm it manifested as the finite extent of the observable universe, in the ethereal realm the Far Marches were empty void, and in the celestial realm the hole in creation was Hell. You could probably take this idea and mush it up a bit for this plot seed. Maybe the only thing that can stop God is something from outside His creation, or perhaps Kaichaman is leading his worshippers to their (and his) doom in a mad scheme. - -- Neel Krishnaswami neelk@cswv.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:34:44 -0400 From: Matthew Rice Subject: Re: IN> Blair Witch, yadda yadda Andrew Rawlings wrote: > > >Karonis (the Blair Witch), Demon Prince of the Unknown > > >The world is full of cracks that no one can see into. >Creepy, huh? > > Sounds a little too much like a cross between Alaemon The Prince of > Secrets and Beleth the Princess of Nighmares. I doubt that either of > them would allow this upstart to drain off thier Essence, and Beleth at > least has the power to do something about it. > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Oh yes, this definitely falls Beleth's sphere of influence, since it involves not just the unknown, but the fear of the unknown. I do like all the attunements, though. Matthew Rice ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:04:14 -0400 From: "Mason Kramer" Subject: IN> FW: Sunrise, sunset Gotta smack around some smartass players, but... How do you figure Sunrise (and Sunset, and Noon, for that matter) for a campaign with a lot of travelling going on? For instance... Someone using the Song of Motion and getting several hours ahead of the sun just after sunrise? For someone at one of the poles? Someone on the moon, or another planet? Someone on the space shuttle, circling the planet every ninety minutes or so? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:10:47 GMT+10 From: "Leath Sheales" Subject: Re: IN> FW: Sunrise, sunset Mason wrote: > How do you figure Sunrise (and Sunset, and Noon, for that matter) for a > campaign with a lot of travelling going on? For instance... Just give them Essence approximately once every 24 hours. The Symphony can't be fooled so easily. I believe that a question very similar to this is in the FAQ, concerning Kyriotates with multiple hosts in different time zones. Try that on for size. Leath. We apologise for this break in sanity. We now return you to your regularly scheduled reality. Leath. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:00:14 -0400 From: "EDG (and Orc)" Subject: Re: IN> FW: Sunrise, sunset At 08:04 PM 8/17/99 , you wrote: >Gotta smack around some smartass players, but... > >How do you figure Sunrise (and Sunset, and Noon, for that matter) for a >campaign with a lot of travelling going on? For instance... From the FAQ: "...The angel will regenerate Essence about once every 24 hours no matter where the sun is. ... The Essence regeneration occurs at certain times of day for symbolic reasons, not physical ones." (It's under a question about Kyriotates, though.) There are a few ways to figure this. 1) "Set" a location for the angel; when the sun rises at this point (on the Earth's surface), the character gets Essence. For celestials, it's most often going to be the place where the celestial last descended to the corporeal plane; for humans, you should discuss the matter with the player. Remember, though, that you can only regenerate Essence once every 24 hours; if you "touch down" just after sunrise, you have to wait until the Earth goes around again. 2) Give them Essence every time they see the sunrise, but only if 24 hours has passed since the last time they got Essence in this fashion. 3) (This option works for celestials on the celestial plane, too.) Set a "Universal Sunrise Point". For angels, it'd probably be Notre Dame, in France; for demons, you might consider New Jersey, and for humans, perhaps the Tigris-Euphrates delta (did I get that right?), or the remains of the Garden of Eden. If you used the last, it might even make an interesting plot seed - someone approaches the group, trying to discover where the human "Essence Point" is, and offering them a substantial reward if they find it. An alternate option 3 would be to have Essence Points set by Superior instead of by side, with unaffiliated characters getting Essence from the Universal Essence Points. 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