From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Mon Oct 9 19:17:09 2000 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA04957 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:17:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id TAA29594 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:10:45 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:10:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200010100010.TAA29594@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1844 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Monday, October 9 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1844 In this digest: Re: IN> Crusade (With all the connotations that it implies for a celestial) IN> A Flowery Seed IN> Ethereal ideas IN> The Crusade thoughts Re: IN> Crusade IN> Re: The New Crusade IN> Crusade replies. 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(INCable) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:16:10 +0000 From: Charles E Smith Subject: Re: IN> Crusade (With all the connotations that it implies for a celestial) "The Council doesn't see this: they focus on symptoms and ignore the disease. Or perhaps they don't actually care. We don't know, and frankly, it's no longer important why they refuse to act. If the Council has become so ensared in political manuevering that they can no longer see the proper path to take, then the Host must take matters into its collective hands. To save Lady Gabriel, Belial must be destroyed ... and destroyed in such a manner that no demon will _ever_ again consider taking the Word of Fire. "Enough is enough. By God Almighty, enough is enough."<<< Very cool seed, Morgan! :D Though it does beg the question, what can these unknown agitators possibly hope to do besides irritate the Demon Prince of Fire at best or end up on a lava spit in Sheol at worst? ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:32:30 +0000 From: Charles E Smith Subject: IN> A Flowery Seed Hello everyone. I just had a thought for a new adventure seed. I was somewhat inspired by Morgan's recent Crusade seed. Here we go. :) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------ In the Groves of War, there is an undercurrent of talk stirring. Angels from the Groves to the Catacombs of Stone and even the Church of the Sword have been flocking at night in secret places to hear the words of one Amalkin, Seraph Friend of War. A troubled Servitor of the Wind, overhearing one of these sermons, recorded it and played it back to the Archangels of Judgement, the Wind, and Flowers. It played as follows: "Friends, angels, fellow Servitors, hear me! How many times have we, who serve the glorious Michael, or the resolute David, or the honorable Laurence, been hindered in our efforts by the foolishness of those who follow the Archangel of Flowers? How many times have we had to watch a demon be spared, or pull our punches because the Flowerchildren have intervened?!" To the roar of the crowd, the voice continues "I say that it is past time that we rid ourselves of the unwanted and unneeded influence of the mealy-mouthed, irresponsible Novalis and her Servitors! I say that Uriel was wrong. The Purification Crusade should not have been directed to the misguided Ethereals but to our own! In war, we cannot afford the weak and the useless. If Novalis and hers will not fight, then I say we rid ourselves of them, and others like them! Dreams, Children, Revelation, Flowers, Trade, Destiny, Judgement. Who needs them? They are drains on the resources of Heaven and unneeded hinderances!" There is a pause. "But I see the doubt on some of your faces. What of the Seraphim Council? What shall it say? Remember, the Council is composed of the Archangels, including the useless ones that clutter Heaven with their moralistic nonsense! We have no need to listen to their ilk! We must purify the Council, excising the dead weight and leaving only those Archangels willing to take a stand for Heaven in its' place. We must make it clear to potenial neutrals like Jean, Jordi, Eli, and Zadkiel, that their place in Heaven will only be assured if they join with us. Those who do not stand with us are against us! Who's with me?!" At that point, a massive cheer resounds and the audio recording cuts off. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:17:52 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Ethereal ideas Hey I just had a perculiar idea for an adventure seed and thought I'd share them The Jihad of Dreams No not a faction of Khalid with Blandine but a play on words revolving around the Jihad to rid the Crusading Invaders (word: murderers) that had entered the Holy Hand upon the order of the Pope and remained despite they profaned the very God they claimed to be serving with their bloodshed. These Celestials are those who take a very similar view of the work of Uriel the First malakim in the Marches. Friends, Lovers, and Comrades in Arms existed with the Ethereal Spirits across Heavengly lines despite what Dominic and Laurence would have you believe...or at least in far greater numbers. During the Crusade Proper the foundation of the Jihad of Dreams was created when a number of Celestials attempted to smuggle away, warn, or save directly Ethereals from the flamming sword of the Purifiers. Among those who called loudly for Uriel's head (whom what would become the Tsaydim viewed as traitors), the Jihad of Dreams became formalized around the Enlightment when angels of predominately Dreams (but other words present) decided the time had come when they could begin to undo the horrid damage Uriel wrought. While they are not amazingly sucessful in repairing relations and must act in secret they have acomplished much good for keeping the Ethereals alive and restoring some small shred of their dignity. Their motivations range from pity and compassion to righteous indignation to pure pragmatism (to turn the Ethereals into powerful allies against Beleth and Hell as many once were). Another less pleasant goal is the quiet and permanent destruction of the Tsaydim which many Malakim of Blandine have engauged in secretly for years . The later has lead to a great deal of Tsaydim paranoia. Adventure Hook The Ressurection of Osiris Osiris the god of fertility and ressurection was viewed by Uriel with extreme hate though I doubt really the former Pharoah ever understood exactly why. In truth Uriel hated Osiris because he viewed him as an affront to his God and his chosen son and a blasphemy....tracking him personally down Uriel was the one to slash his opponent into dozens of pieces as Set had once done and then had his followers scatter the pieces across the planet. Isis was entrusted with a very special song that allowed her to ressurect any being given that she had at least one of his living forces left and the summation of their form (he entrusted her with an amulet containing such). Osiris's inability to be ressurected because of his scattering has been a deep wound to her for every second of the thousand years they have been apart. Horus's death only compounds it and it is very close to hate to what she feels for the Host in response. The Jihad has long contended that ressurecting Osiris would be a great boon in the restoration of respect between the two groups. A member of it has indeed made it his goal for a number of years to discover the wearabouts of the pieces of Osiris. Wielding a Artifact compass forged for that very same purpose he has at last come close to that goal...unfortunately recovering them will be an entirely different prospect that may require outside aid. Osiris's heart was entombed underneath the Egyptian sands of Egypt, Osiris's head was gifted as a Trophy to the Tsaydim and they still have it in their camp as a sign of victory, Osiris's body was viewed as a dissected mummy after being buried in the farthest reaches of where he was worshipped and currently is underneath a museum. Other parts of him lie in the possesion of sorcerors and one being who is very interested in adverting his ressurection. His brother Set. The evil one prefers his standing and intends not to let normalization occur...especially with the steady essence flow he recieves from his lover and "ally" Beleth. He may also consider researching the spell for his own usage and as a bartering chip for the "fence stradeling" Ethereal gods....that must be wrung from Isis at every possible point. - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:23:08 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> The Crusade thoughts I love these guys. Personally I'm going to go out on a limb and say who is responsible for the quiet support of them against Belial and it's going to shock you... Dominic. As anal-retentive as the robed seraphim is he is the Word of Judgement and when it's judged better for Heaven to break the rules than abide by them (see Asmodeus) then Dominic is perfectly happy to do so (Janus would be shocked by this). Judging the Gabriel is on the verge of falling and that destroying her now is not an option then he chooses the more difficult road of redemption as the next viable solution. Examining the situation with careful thought out judgement, he rolls through his rolodex of "known troublemakers" who provide a violent, stupid, but usually effective solution against the Hosts of Hell (raise your hand if this includes your PCs). Knowing this is going to be exceptionally dangerous these folks won't be breaking the rules anymore than they normally are and at last their stupidity will be put to a good use. Because he's the secret master behind it as well...he can always send triads against the ones who really break the line and endanger Heaven. It's also how he knows the Gabrielites arn't behind it. Gabrielle would be shocked to say the least I think as would Michael. and...well everybody. - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 22:03:15 -0500 From: Matt Trent Subject: Re: IN> Crusade Casca wrote: > > > I've read David's seed, of course, and it's damn good > > (also, of course): however, I'm going to be aiming for > > a more hidden movement to take down Belial, at least > > in the early stages. Complete with at least one > > Superior who's covertly aiding the entire thing...* > > > > *And no, I'm not saying who just yet. I'm still > > fiddling with the idea. > > My initial inclination is to say Michael. However, this is Moe we're talking about, so I must think twisted... > > Blandine. The prophetic nature of Fire dovetails with Dreams well, and it is the nature of Dreams to act subtly. And Blandine knows far too well what it is like to fight a lonely battle, knows the sting of betrayal from a trusted friend.... > I was going to guess Janus for the elemental affinity and the attitude just struck me as something an Ofanite would support. Not to mention the rebelling against the will of the Council that would appeal to Wind. Either that or Novalis. Matt Trent ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 20:34:38 -0400 From: Jonathan Walton Subject: IN> Re: The New Crusade Moe, Where do you come up with this amazing stuff? Do you just sit around making up campaign concepts all day so you can baffle us? You should get a deal from SJG to publish a book of these things :) As for the hidden supporter, I'd agree with the Blandine prediction (cus we all know what a Blandine sympathizer Moe is anyway). But anyway, I was thinking about exactly where these Crusaders would come from. Since they're not from Gabriel's camp, it's gonna be an interesting mix. Who would care enough about Gabe to give their lives for a Word that isn't even theirs? Here's my thoughts. #1, Khalid and his buds: Nobody loves Gabe like Khalid. Also, the fanatical element of Faith could be all over this. "Purifying the Flames," as it were. Speaking of purifying . . . #2, Former Servitors of Purity. Bunches of these are now working for Sword and Stone, but I could see them giving their lives for the possibility of destroying Belial and purifying the Word of Fire. The Tsyadim are also a possibility. #3, Dreams & Destiny: Gabriel's other two biggest supporters. Yves personally doesn't seem to be one who would endorse the kamikazi approach, but Word-bound under him (including the Angel of the Glorious Destiny of the Kamikazi) might think differently. I think Blandine loves Gabriel something awful. Not like she loved Beleth, but a sisterly kind of thing, as the twin bearers of some of the most abstract Words out there. And I can definatly see Dreamers getting fanatical in their hopefulness. I've already got ideas for Crusader Menunim. #4, Wind: the ultimate Revolutionaries. This connection is kind of downplayed, but there's a huge relationship between inspiration (Gabriel's realm) and change (Janus'). Ideas themselves are the foundations of change. Besides, killing Belial would shake up the whole stalemate arrangement that seems to be the current state of things. And Windies like destruction and chaos almost as much as Belial's demons. Gotta destroy the competition. Anyway, just my thoughts for now. I hope thins continues to develop. Later. Jonathan Daedalus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:34:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Crusade replies. Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 11:24:23 -0600From: Tim Groth Subject: Re: IN> More on The New Crusade >I also think it would be great if Furfur was helping >to funnel resources and information to it to get back >at his old master. I'll be working various demonic reactions in general, but I didn't specifically think about Furfur. He'll be all over this, indeed. :) From: Casca Subject: Re: IN> Crusade On Sat, 07 October 2000, Maurice Lane wrote: >>Complete with at least one Superior who's covertly >>aiding the entire thing...*> >>*And no, I'm not saying who just yet. I'm still> >>fiddling with the idea. >My initial inclination is to say Michael. However, >this is Moe we're talking about, so I must think >twisted... Ah, flattery. :) >Blandine. The prophetic nature of Fire dovetails with >Dreams well, and it is the nature of Dreams to act >subtly. And Blandine knows far too well what it is >like to fight a lonely battle, knows the sting of >betrayal from a trusted friend You know, I'm really quite pleased. ;) From: Thomas J Howell Subject: Re: IN> More on The New Crusade >It might be fun to have a story where the PCs are >forced to go against other angels. Perhaps >Crusaders, by launching an attack against a Belial >stronghold, are diverting troops or resources from >strategically more vital sites. Yup. That's one of the reasons why several Archangels are against the entire thing. >Of course, it is also a great way to get mixed groups >going. >Belial's got lots of enemies...TJ Including a few he doesn't know about yet. Fair warning: I am ripping apart canon and stamping on the bits. Your players will gibber in fear and shock, before I'm done... ;) >Who's to say that Gabrielites don't have plans of >their own? >Might make for some interesting conflicts.TJ Howell Now that's something I hadn't considered. Nice complication, there. Thanks. :) Thanks for the help so far, guys. The whole megillah (well, at least enough to run with) should be up by Tuesday. With any luck, it'll hurt your brains: it's certainly hurting mine... :) Moe ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Everything else (not that there is, right now): http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/main.html Last updated 9/5/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 00:31:53 -0700 From: Sean McCarthy Subject: IN> A top ten list... The top ten things not to say to Dominic when he asks what you want to fledge as: #10 Grigori. What? What?! #9 Seraph, so nobody will suspect it when I lie. #8 Cherub, so I'll always know where to find my enemies. #7 Ofanite ... of the Wind! #6 Elohite, because I really admire Khalid's dedication. #5 Kyriotate. That way I don't have to worry about replacing vessels when I die.. #4 Lilim. Oh! Why not? I mean Bright, honest. #3 Malakite, so I won't Fall no matter how dissonant I become. #2 Mercurian, because, like, Eli is sooo cool. #1 Habbalah. They're the best kind of angel. I have been kicking that around for a while, but a Reliever of Trade helped inspire me to finish it last night. Thanks, nameless angel. Sean ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 09:36:03 +0100 From: "Laurent" Subject: Re: IN> timetravel/vap and eli side note Earl wrote: > > I don't think it would prevent the creation of God from > > nothingness and all the well-known consequences. > > The creation of who from what? If that's part of IN canon, > it's the most deviant piece of theology in it. Hum... well, didn't God emanate from the void, along with the Symphony? Or did I just get mixed up with the INS/MV version of the Creation? I *really* need to get a second copy of the main book for work! Laurent. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:36:54 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> "So, you say you want a revo-LUT-ion...." At 4:16 PM -0700 10/8/00, Maurice Lane wrote: My only comment off the top of my head, not looking at the writeups and with a wigglebaby fussing on my lap is... >and Genevieve, Free Lilim Demon of Revolutions Really now, I thought everyone knew Genevieve* was a Habbalite.** O;> * (GR "Maya" Cogman, well known to be "an angel with tattoos. Very boring. Really. Go away.") ** http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/articles/Movies/bethbond.html - --Beth, typing w/a uncoopertive baby (iolanthe) causing typos. "She's either babbling, or summoning Elder Gods. I'm not sure which." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:42:52 EDT From: MarkDEddy@aol.com Subject: Re: IN> Using Tarot cards for Resonance In a message dated 10/8/00 3:53:57 PM, prodigal@ticnet.com writes: >From: "Thomas J Howell" >> >> I've recently been reading Tafka J.'s "Falling Stars" logs (which >> are very good, BTW), and noticed that Tarot cards are sometimes >> used in Malakite (and perhaps others, as well?) resonance rolls. >> >> What's the scoop on this? Is there any particular rhyme or reason >> to it besides using traditional meanings for the cards? > >The short version is that it's easier to determine honorable and >dishonorable acts for random NPCs on the fly that way. I'll let Tafka give >you the long reason. ;;;) > > Heh. It's also handy to have a Tarot deck about when you've got two Mercurians of Destiny - who resonate on nearly everyone. (I'm not sure that I wasn't the first one to suggest this). I use the standard interpretations of a Waite-Rider deck. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:31:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> This is an odd one, even for me. I need a good Prince and Band for the Demon of Cows. The angel of Cows is easy, of course: he works for Jordi, and is from whichever Choir watches over mammals. Spends his days encouraging people to eat soy and arranging mass breakouts of cattle from stockyards. The Demon of Cows, though, that's a bit harder. Why do I want advice on this? Do you _really_ want a glimpse of what goes on in my mind? ;) Moegiel Kyriotate of Destiny in Service to Song ("Hulk Smite, but keep voice down! Ogiel moonlighting!") ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Everything else (not that there is, right now): http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/main.html Last updated 9/5/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 13:54:08 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> This is an odd one, even for me. At 10:31 AM -0700 10/9/00, Maurice Lane wrote: >I need a good Prince and Band for the Demon of Cows. Kobal, and Shedite. (Hey, it's Mad Cow Disease, right?) Or Haagenti and whatever. Mmmmm, cow. >Why do I want advice on this? >Do you _really_ want a glimpse of what goes on in my >mind? I'm thinking brain in a bottle here... - --Beth, typing w/a uncoopertive baby (iolanthe) causing typos. "She's either babbling, or summoning Elder Gods. I'm not sure which." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 13:39:24 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> This is an odd one, even for me. Maurice Lane wrote: > I need a good Prince and Band for the Demon of Cows. A Djinn of Dark Humor is the first thing that comes to my mind, given the kind of thing I suspect you'll be doing with it. Otherwise, a Djinn of Gluttony (since cows relate to humanity mostly as consumables, and Hell appears to be interested in little on Earth besides humanity). Djinn, in any case, since they're the band that likes to go around owning objects. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:49:32 -0600 From: "ben" Subject: Re: IN> This is an odd one, even for me. > > I need a good Prince and Band for the Demon of Cows. A Demon of Cows would be highly proficient in organized, brutal slaughter. He's probably next in line to become the Demon of Genocide. Let Saminga have him. Imagine. The Demon of Cows. In service to Death. It doesn't get much better than this. He'd indirectly be supporting Kobal's Word, that's for sure. Who'd work for him? The Demon of Grisle. The Demon of Cow Tipping. The Demon of Incorrectly-Cooked Steaks. The Demon of McDonalds... Ben ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:36:23 +0100 From: "Genevieve Cogman" Subject: Re: IN> This is an odd one, even for me. Depends if you reach his secret Princedom by combining a Tome of Town Portal and Wirt's Leg in the Horadric Cube... Er. Please ignore that random brainflare. Must be due to revolutionary crossed messages or something. aux armes, citoyens! Genevieve >Maurice Lane wrote: >> I need a good Prince and Band for the Demon of Cows. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:00:08 -0400 From: Jason Schneiderman Subject: Barnyard IN Re: IN> This is an odd one, even for me. >The Demon of Cows, though, that's a bit >harder. I'd be tempted to do the whole Norman/Saxon thing and make it the Demon of Beef, in service to Gluttony. (Hey, it's what's for dinner.) Other thought: does the Word of "the Lamb", like "the Sword", have a special power beyond what is expected? I have this vision of a Jordite Malakite who gains the word - a wolf in sheep's clothing, so to speak. Jason, who already knows about his counterpart - Fenton, Demon of Sheep * * * * * Jason Schneiderman, Editor, EDITORIAL HUMOR. E-mail: edhumor@tiac.net EH's 10th Anniversary Cartoon Contest! $15 entry fee, deadline Oct. 18, 2000. Check out issue 256 for all the details! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:03:00 -0400 From: "A.Hamilton" Subject: Re: IN> This is an odd one, even for me. > Depends if you reach his secret Princedom by combining a Tome of Town Portal > and Wirt's Leg in the Horadric Cube... > > Er. Please ignore that random brainflare. Must be due to revolutionary > crossed messages or something. aux armes, citoyens! In that case, he'd be a servitor of the Media. Or perhaps Fluerity, considering the addictive qualities... > Genevieve A.Hamilton Like you thought you were getting off that easily? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 14:09:53 -0400 From: Marc Bowden Subject: Re: Barnyard IN Re: IN> This is an odd one, even for me. - --On Monday, October 9, 2000 2:00 PM -0400 Jason Schneiderman wrote: >> The Demon of Cows, though, that's a bit >> harder. > > I'd be tempted to do the whole Norman/Saxon thing and make it the > Demon of Beef, in service to Gluttony. (Hey, it's what's for > dinner.) > > Other thought: does the Word of "the Lamb", like "the Sword", have a > special power beyond what is expected? I have this vision of a > Jordite Malakite who gains the word - a wolf in sheep's clothing, > so to speak. > > Jason, who already knows about his counterpart - Fenton, Demon of > Sheep > *snorkspew* Wow. There's a name I haven't heard in a long time. Marc. Just Marc. Elohite Angel of Salvation (Fighting the Ewe World Order) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:17:59 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> This is an odd one, even for me. At 11:49 AM -0600 10/9/00, ben wrote: > > > I need a good Prince and Band for the Demon of Cows. It depends on how old the Word is. Is there a Demon of Beef (IST Gluttony?) as well? A Demon of Cattle (IST Death, most likely, or Greed -- why do you think Cattle Rustling became big business?) A Demon of Bulls? If there are all of these things, a Demon of Cows would likely be a throwaway Word granted by Lucifer as one of his little jokes, which means almost any Superior would do initially. If they survived (and if the Demon served The War, I don't lay great odds), I assume the Demon of Cows would gravitate towards Dark Humor or Gluttony. As for Band? Djinn. This practically screams Djinn. Large, strong beast. Stands around for long periods of time. Not known for passion. Difficult to dissuade. Oh yes, Djinn. (And the Demon of Cows may have become strong enough in Dark Humor's servi-- stop *laughing!* I'm trying to make a serious answer here. Anyhow -- they may have become strong enough to have the Demon of Cow Tipping subordinate to them. And the Demon of Bovine Methane (a lovely joke, that, as the hole in the Ozone now is larger than North American). And the Demon of Exploding Cows. And the Demon of Cow-oriented Far Side Comics... and don't get me started on the Demon of Gateway Computers advertising....) - -- I have a broken hand, so spelling errors, capitalization errors, and extremely slow response times should be treated as precious things, not errors, because I'm not about to correct them. Neener. Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:19:47 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: Barnyard IN Re: IN> This is an odd one, even for me. At 2:09 PM -0400 10/9/00, Marc Bowden wrote: >--On Monday, October 9, 2000 2:00 PM -0400 Jason Schneiderman > wrote: > >>>The Demon of Cows, though, that's a bit >>>harder. No! Wait! Golden Calf! Idolatry! The Bible! Sacred Hindu Cows! Make him a Balseraph Demon of the Game. And watch the players' humor turn cold.... - -- I have a broken hand, so spelling errors, capitalization errors, and extremely slow response times should be treated as precious things, not errors, because I'm not about to correct them. Neener. Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 14:28:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Gant Subject: Re: IN> This is an odd one, even for me. On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Maurice Lane wrote: > I need a good Prince and Band for the Demon of Cows. > > The angel of Cows is easy, of course: he works for > Jordi, and is from whichever Choir watches over > mammals. Spends his days encouraging people to eat > soy and arranging mass breakouts of cattle from > stockyards. The Demon of Cows, though, that's a bit > harder. Calabite of Fire. Cows can explode, after all. (I just finished reading a Dave Berry collection.) Or a Djinn of Gluttony. Eats all the time, and is extremely apathetic. > Why do I want advice on this? > > Do you _really_ want a glimpse of what goes on in my > mind? Yes. I'm curious. Richard Gant - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Gant's Gaming Ghetto: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dunes/4656/ The Returners Final Fantasy Role-Playing Game Site: http://returners.simplenet.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 11:41:53 -0700 From: Ryan Elias Subject: Re: IN> This is an odd one, even for me. Maurice Lane wrote: > > I need a good Prince and Band for the Demon of Cows. An old and distinguished Djinn ex-servitor of Corruption, now in service to, um, Death I suppose (although he probably operates pretty much independantly of Saminga). Promotes mass clear-cutting for pasture, methane emanations, heart disease, mad cow disease, wierd growth hormones in the milk, and those stupid "Milk, it does a body good" commercials. I guess. Cheers, -Ryan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:38:49 -0400 From: "Jamie LaFountain" Subject: IN> Licensed In Nomine MUSH - Come play! Hey everbody. I'd like to let everyone know about the first officially licensed In Nomine MUSH (Mult-User Shared Hallucination). It's an online, text-based game that's completely free to play. It takes place in Kansas City, Missouri and is entitled Brass & Steel. We are dedicated to creating a mature, solid story-based environment free from "PK (player kill) twinks" and combat-happy players. If you're interested in checking us out then telnet to swing.erisian.net:2323 or 216.127.139.7:2323 You can also e-mail me at mishra@twcny.rr.com with any questions. In the game, my name is Wrath and I'm the Infernal Coordinator. See ya soon I hope! Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 12:51:43 -0700 From: Sean McCarthy Subject: Re: IN> Licensed In Nomine MUSH - Come play! Just some observations: This MUSH isn't actually ready for play. Many key news files aren't ready and character generation isn't finished. In particular, the news file that would contain the house rules, the policies, the consent guidelines and the harassment policy among other important info just says "Coming soon." in essence. I do not think it is really appropriate to advertise this game without mentioning the game is not finished yet. Sean ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 16:00:26 -0400 From: Marc Bowden Subject: Re: IN> Licensed In Nomine MUSH - Come play! - --On Monday, October 9, 2000 12:51 PM -0700 Sean McCarthy wrote: > Just some observations: > > This MUSH isn't actually ready for play. Many key news files > aren't ready and character generation isn't finished. In > particular, the news file that would contain the house rules, the > policies, the consent guidelines and the harassment policy among > other important info just says "Coming soon." in essence. > > I do not think it is really appropriate to advertise this game > without mentioning the game is not finished yet. > It's not, but people with new MUDs do this all the time. You get used to it. I'd be interested in the terms of the licence, as such. Marc. Just Marc. Elohite Angel of Salvation (Thanking God it's not another WW or WOT clone.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:03:32 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Licensed In Nomine MUSH - Come play! At 12:51 PM -0700 10/9/00, Sean McCarthy wrote: >Just some observations: > >This MUSH isn't actually ready for play. Many key news files aren't >ready and character generation isn't finished. In particular, the >news file that would contain the house rules, the policies, the >consent guidelines and the harassment policy among other important >info just says "Coming soon." in essence. > >I do not think it is really appropriate to advertise this game >without mentioning the game is not finished yet. Mm. I'm kind of with Sean. I was pretty excited about the prospects, and both checked it out and e-mailed questions to the folks in question. While it seems exciting in prospect, it actually has more limits (not in a bad way, mind -- just in a "Campaign Way") than might have been expected, especially since the MUSH itself has standard "create your character at the prompt" prompting, with no real information of what to do with it next.... IOW -- expect to be juried and don't expect to just play whatever IN character concept you wish (not that you should expect that anyway, but still.) Expect there to be a clear vision of what this IN world is supposed to be. And also expect that said vision hasn't been fully elaborated on just yet. OTOH, it's cool that it exists in the first place, and it's still exciting to have the prospect to run some IN at will with folks around the world. I'm looking forward to it being finished. - -- I have a broken hand, so spelling errors, capitalization errors, and extremely slow response times should be treated as precious things, not errors, because I'm not about to correct them. Neener. Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:10:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Damifino where this one came from. (INCable) Yes, yes, I realy should be finishing up my latest campaign seed, but I couldn't get this one out of my head. So now he's in yours, hopefully. :) Morgan (SAW) Kyriotate of Destiny Petitioner for the Word of What use is he? What do I look like, an Oracle? Kedawiel Seraph Scholar of Ineffability Forces: 15 (probably) Word Forces: 17? 21? "D"? Total number of Resource Points: Err... umm... come on, he's an NPC anyway. Vessel: well, he has one. Looks like at least level/4, and Charisma +1, but don’t quote me on this. Skills: Kedawiel has demonstrated at least some skill in Chemistry, Detect Lies, Dodge, Emote, Fast-Talk, Fighting, several Languages, a whole lot of Knowledge skills (but that just might be the Master of Divine Knowledge Attunement), Large Weapon (sword), Ranged Weapons (pistol), Tactics and Throwing. It's hard to tell, really. Role: Not a one. I think. Songs: Again, he's demonstrated Correspondence, Daydreams, Empathy, Healing, Light, Location, Motion, a couple of Numinous Corpi, Sanctity, Shields, Storms, Symphony, Tongues and Truth. It's suspected that he knows the Trisagion and Visions. Don't bother asking. Attunements: Seraphim of Destiny, Ofanite of Destiny, Malakite of Destiny, all of Yves' Servitor Attunements and Rites, Master of Divine Knowledge (Kyriotate), Scholar of Ineffability Angel of Ineffability: 1). Kedawiel seems to very protean: once per day, he can shift his Forces, Attributes, Skills and Songs to any legal combination. He can also apparently do this at any time, if he pays 3 Essence. Can he transcend normal limits? Beats me... 2). Kedawiel is immune to Seraphim, Elohite, Malakite and Mercurian resonance rolls, unless they originate from a Superior. A demonic resonance simply won't work at all, except for Djinn. 3). Kedawiel, obviously, has knowledge of the unknowable equal to that of a Seraph Archangel. I only bring it up to forestall the inevitable wiseacres. 4). Fnord. Rites: Whatever it is, it usually gives him at least 3 Essence a day, in addition to everything else. Get used to hearing the phrase "It is unknown how/why/what..." when the Angel of Ineffability comes up in conversation. Yves knows about Kedawiel, no doubt: so do Dominic, Litheroy and Michael. Alas, getting a comprehensible answer out of any of them is just as futile. What we do know is that Kedawiel has been around for at least three thousand years: at least, that's the earliest reliable mention of him, and he was already a Word-bound then. He seems to be one of Yves' troubleshooters, but that's just speculation. What is relatively certain is that Kedawiel has a knack for arriving on the scene just before something happens that's relevant to Destiny. Or maybe he makes things relevant to Destiny by showing up. Seraphim find that shrugging a lot helps when contemplating this angel. In person, Kedawiel is actually pretty good company, if you don't mind interacting with someone who seems to be reading from a different script than the rest of the universe. If he offers to help out with something, prudent angels let him help. They may go mad trying to figure out precisely what he's doing to help, but the results are usually good. Eventually. Needless to say, Kedawiel drives demons insane (well, he drives angels insane as well, but they're usually politer about it). Unfortunately, the one thing that has been proven, over and over in the last few millennia, is that the Angel of Ineffability is starkly dangerous in a fight. No doubt a Demon Prince would be able to take him down, but they never seem to be able to catch up with him. What on Earth makes you think I know why? ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Everything else (not that there is, right now): http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/main.html Last updated 9/5/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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