From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Sun Nov 26 17:33:55 2000 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15726 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:33:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id RAA28417 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:34:49 -0600 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:34:49 -0600 Message-Id: <200011262334.RAA28417@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1940 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Sunday, November 26 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1940 In this digest: Re: IN> new to the list, the game and all IN> Re: DR WHO IN> In Nomine Contest> Demons you tend to underestimate Re: IN> In Nomine Contest> Demons you tend to underestimate IN> Deus Ex Machina IN> Cue evil cackling... Re: IN> In Nomine Contest> Demons you tend to underestimate Re: IN> new to the list, the game and all IN> Everybody seed Re: IN> Everybody seed IN> There is no real urgency to answer this one. IN> Question about PBEM's IN> Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) IN> Battle for the Prize Re: IN> There is no real urgency to answer this one. Re: IN> Everybody seed IN> Stamps of the Shal-Mari Postal Service. [plot seed] IN> You can make anything into a RPG aid, if you look at it right. IN> Demon of Armaggedon IN> The Seven Deadly Sins [Location] Re: IN> Urban Legends Parts I & II Re: IN> new to the list, the game and all Re: IN> In Nomine Contest> Demons you tend to underestimate Re: IN> Demon of Armaggedon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 16:40:05 -0800 From: Ryan Elias Subject: Re: IN> new to the list, the game and all rossk wrote: > > hi there listmembers. > i just bought a new copy of in nomine (my first being donated as a going > away present, long story) and got up to the point in characters where it > mentions "words". > i understand the concept but do players get to choose their own? or are the > handed out like rewards? An angel or demon has to be put forth by their Superior to receive a Word. The case is then reviewed by the Seraphim Council or Lucifer, who may then grant the proposed Word or (especially in the case of Lucifer) another Word entirely. This will, in almost every situation, be a Word suited to the character, but the recipient of the Word doesn't actually get to choose it. A demon of the Media, for instance, might be working towards the Word of, say, Portable CD Players, and instead get, People who Play Teen Pop on Their Portable CD Players Way Too Loud on the Bus (with a transfer to Factions, of course ^_^), or something. A Word is a pretty hefty reward, only granted to powerful and experienced Celestials (ie not starting PCs), except in rare situations (there're a number of Wordbound floating about who received their word as a form of punshiment, like the Demon of Pencil Shavings, I believe). Hope this helps a bit, or at the very least comprehensible (working on a sleep deficit ^_^). > and has anyone converted the movie "dogma" into a story yet? I believe so. There's certainly several lengthy threads on the subject on the Pyramid IN board, and possibly some on this list as well (it's not a subject that interests me, so I tend to skip over the messages). A search through the digests might turn something up. Cheers, Ryan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 01:08:05 -0000 From: "nick sands" Subject: IN> Re: DR WHO Hm, which in carnation would be what chior? Seeing as he dies then regenerates in a a very different person, i'd get the cannon and mess with it a lot, and have each DR as a different chior with each regeneration. But on the whole of it i'd have him as a mercurian of jean, who's ultimate fate is to fall and become the 'Master' IST kronos, which as i think is what he became in the tv series, not that i am way to big a fan of it. /inhale\ I think that his biggest problem in the host would be dominic who would always be charging him for crimes that one of his future incarnations who travelled back in time to some point and caused soem trouble knowing that the other more recent incarnation of the DR will know the wayto solve the problem.... /exhale\ oh wait, thats what happened in one of the episodes.. *chuckle* and some how that all stayed in cannon, well, topic at least, my canon rusted away long ago, but i keep it in a plastic bag so its not gonna degrade much more... Nick Sands www.angelfire.com/goth/psyber icq: 60645575 _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 21:05:38 -0500 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> In Nomine Contest> Demons you tend to underestimate Demons you might regret viewing as "small potatoes" Bill Free Lilim (most commonly viewed as a servitor of Haagenti) Cor-2 Str-4 Agi-4 Eth-3 Int-6 Pre-6 Cel-3 Will-8 Per-4 Vessel: Human 2/ (Human Geek) Role: Fast Food resturant manager 2/ Songs: Song of Form (Corporeal 6/) Attunements: Lilim of Haagenti Bill is what you might call an underachiever in Hell. Basically Bill was created on a bar bet with Haagenti that she could seduce the next person who walked in here before he could....well she couldn't and it disgusts her to this day how she did. Bill was thus created as the result and has spent the next fifty years working in the Fast Food industry for Haagenti. He recieved his extra force for supposadly coining the phrase "You want fries with that?" but that's only speculation. Bill apparently has no ambition, no real desire to serve Haagenti, or a desire to madcaply sensual like other Lilim. Indeed other demons find Bill so dreadfully dull, useless, and nonthreatening he's been left virtually alone by Hell for some thirty years. Unbeknowst to most everyone that's exactly the way Bill wants it. Bill the momment he plopped into Hell knew that the place....sucked. He realized his Prince was probably going to eat him if he did something stupid or if he did something genius and failed to live up to the aftereffects with something amazingly powerful. Thus Bill decided early in life to be completely middle of the road until the point that he traded away all his geas to Haagenti which he did by consistantly doing what he was told and staying squarely in the background...oddly enough the usual ironic hand of the Symphony did not intervene and he actually suceeded in being completely unrecognized for anything spectacular or horrofic in his entire period of service...and he was free. Bill now has spent the first three months of his existence in the fast food resturant he's managed for some time and things are going perfectly to plan.....oddly most demons would be perplexed at the plan but Bill is quite content with it. He manages the cleanest, most pleasant, and enjoyable fast food resturant in the area where service with a smile is a must and repeat business is the main goal. His employees consider him a micromanager but he takes over extra shifts so not much to complain about....basically everyone's 1/ geas for a good meal adds up over time and he has a very good idea of what 65 million served might mean at some point. - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 20:12:53 -0600 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine Contest> Demons you tend to underestimate - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Phipps" To: Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 8:05 PM Subject: IN> In Nomine Contest> Demons you tend to underestimate [snip] > [...] His employees consider him a micromanager but he > takes over extra shifts so not much to complain about....basically > everyone's 1/ geas for a good meal adds up over time and he has a very good > idea of what 65 million served might mean at some point. Holy [bleep]. Eat half a dozen good meals in this guy's place and the next thing you know, you're busy shooting the Pope... because he asked you to, and you just couldn't refuse... *DANGEROUS*. Now all you need to do is give this guy one of the snack bar franchises in the Pentagon [1] [2] and we're *all* hosed... - -- Chuckg [1] Or insert other Really Important Place Where Too Many Of The Employees Still Eat Fast Food here... [2] After all, to the best of my knowledge history records *no* instances of a McDonald's or Burger King franchise on a military base going broke... at least not unless the base closed. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 23:31:52 -0500 From: Jonathan Walton Subject: IN> Deus Ex Machina Hmm, for some bizarre reason, the first post I sent out never went through. You guys were probably wondering what in the world I was talking about with that last one. Well, here it is. It should work this time. Deus Ex Machina Steampunk In Nomine It was the most terrible and beautiful thing that anyone had ever seen. Legion, the newly-named Demon Prince of Corruption, stood transfixed as if staring into the light of an oncoming train. Like a thunderbolt, the Archangel bore down on him, an unstoppable force of nature that would not be turned aside. And then, in the passing of a single instant, that being that had once been a Shedite, that "it" that was now "we," became light. Archangel and Demon Prince negated each other out in a clash that was nothing but glory and hellfire. In the end, which side could claim the winner? All that can be said is that, for better or worse, the world was changed. But those who actually saw the Celestial being of Corruption bathed in a sea of Lightning will remember the sacrifice that was made. Jean went out with a bang. It was a world that easily could have been . . . After the Archangel of Lightning sacrificed himself to destroy Legion, his duties were parceled out to Raphael and Eli, but the world would surely feel his loss. At first, humanity seemed to actually benefit from having Jean gone. Eli and Raphael were much more inclined to help humans along with new inventions and developments. However, the problems weren't long in beginning. A very dissonant Elohite named Vapula was able to steal the secrets of the steam engine from the Halls of Invention (security had grown lax under Eli) and quickly Fell down to Hell with that knowledge intact. Lucifer was quick to see the potential available and Vapula was awarded the Word of the Engine, one that was quickly promoted to the Princedom of Technology as the Habbalah's power grew. Still, without Jean to promote electronics as the natural descendent of Lightning, history was headed in a very different direction. Though Vapula's Word encompassed a wide domain, he had a real affection for his original Word, and non-mechanical technologies had a hard time getting his interest or patronage. Back in Heaven, it was clear that Eli and Raphael weren't going to be able to counter the new Prince of Technology. A new Archangel was needed and Gabriel's candidate, a trusted Malakite of Fire named Soldekai, was soon awarded the Word of Steam, a Word that soon became the symbol for a new age, the Age of Steam. Sound interesting to anyone? I'm starting to make plans to run a PbeM game in the world of Steampunk In Nomine. If anyone is interested in being a part of it, e-mail me. Also, if anyone gets inspired to write up Soldekai, Archangel of Steam, go right ahead. Saves me the trouble, y'know :) Obviously, this little intro is just the beginning and I can't wait to explore the rest of the world. However, I want to get as much input from potential players as possible before fleshing everything out. More information about Deus Ex Machina, as the campaign will likely be called, will soon be up at my new domain, godmachine.org, as soon as all the weird hosting stuff gets worked out. Later. Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 21:25:12 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Cue evil cackling... There I was, updating my links page (aside from that, no new stuff, but I think I got everything), and while in the process of adding Ms. Hart's site, what do I come across but her suggestions on Roll-your-Own-Superior?* (pause) You know, the things I produce wouldn't _nearly_ be as insane as they are if the rest of you didn't give me opportunities like this. ;) Morgan (SAW) Kyriotate of Destiny Petitioner for the Word of Tell me, was the Choice of "Bloodymindedness" meant to be generic? Natural 'roll' of 18 - and do I want Malakite or Lilim? Hmmm... *With five minutes on a spreadsheet, you can create _hundreds_ of these things! BWHAH-HAH-HAH-HAH-HAH!!! ;) The article is, BTW, http://www.btinternet.com/~jhart/IN_rollsupe.html ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/25/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 01:06:13 -0600 From: Santiago Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine Contest> Demons you tend to underestimate >Bill >Free Lilim >(most commonly viewed as a servitor of Haagenti) > >Cor-2 Str-4 Agi-4 >Eth-3 Int-6 Pre-6 >Cel-3 Will-8 Per-4 >He recieved his extra force for supposadly coining the phrase "You >want fries with that?" but that's only speculation. It's just a technicality, but that statement implies Bill was made at seven forces, whereas canon holds that all Lilim are created at nine forces. They're just special that way, unlike the rest of the vile demonic rabble. - -- Santiago ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 23:45:09 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Eng Subject: Re: IN> new to the list, the game and all While under the influence of a Shedite, "rossk" typed: > Hi there, listmembers. > > I just bought a new copy of IN, my first being donated as a going > away present, and got up to the point in characters where it > mentions "words". > > I understand the concept, but do players get to choose their own, > or are they handed out like rewards? > Players get to try for their own. If a celestial wants an unclaimed Word, she can work on being connected with it. However, the Word a celestial gets is not always the one he wants, some celestials get Words without even asking for it, and more often than not the Word received is the one the petitioner deserves. This is one place where doing the Evil GM* routine is useful. Peter Eng - ------ * - My favorite Evil GM routine involved the three wishes: "I wish to be the most powerful person in the world. I wish to be the richest person in the world. I want to live forever, eternally young." The GM in question transported him to an otherwise empty planet, gave him eternal life and eternal youth, and placed one gold piece in the character's pocket. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 07:40:58 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Everybody seed I reread Neel's :The Bigger Hammer: again. Sorry. :) Morgan (SAW) Kyriotate of Destiny Petitioner for the Word of On a Seriousness Level of 1 to 10, this one has broken through the bottom of the scale. Field Trip There are disadvantages to being a favored Servitor of your Superior. Sure, you get to go to Earth, blow up members of the Other Side, and get to play with all the neat toys, but this can be handily counterbalanced by the fact that a transcendently powerful being knows your name. Sometimes they want you to take care of something: whether it's vitally important ("We need that Tether to War/Fire/Death shut down now. Here's the address where you can pick up the plastic explosive. Sorry that all of the Malakim/Calabim are at the convention in Sydney") or trivial ("Make sure that they put the extra starch in the robes like I asked. Sorry that I can't seem to find the claim ticket"), it can be counted on to be an irritating distraction. Earthbound celestials can be expected to have this sort of thing happen at least once in their careers. It's just that they usually _all_ don't get 'asked' for a favor at the same time... Random Superior X has decided that a newly fledged celestial of his or hers needs a little seasoning. Luckily, one of his or her more experienced Servitors (a PC) has shown energy ("trigger-happy"), resourcefulness ("makes napalm in the kitchen sink"), drive ("pyromania"), loyalty ("sneakiness"), proper respect for channels ("bootlicking") and fostering cross-Word relationships ("he'll stop whacking on the other PCs when an angel/demon shows up"). The new celestial would be well served to follow the PC around for a few days: he/she/it might learn a thing or two. No doubt the favored Servitor is planning something well worth watching, anyway? Well... probably not, if you're talking more than a month in advance, but that's really only a minor problem: finding a quick project to do is the second thing any worker in a large, vaguely impersonal hierarchy learns to do (the first is, of course, "how to look busy"). Babysitting some wet-behind-the-ears kid will promise to be a pain, of course, but when the Boss 'requests' something, you smile and say, "Yes, sir/ma'am/whatever celestials use when kissing up to Kyriotates/Shedim/Elohim". You can work around this, really: you can even work around the last-minute addition of another clueless wonder from a Superior allied to yours. You just keep them in the back, make sure they keep their mouths shut, and don't let them wander off. And you don't let them get killed. Piece of cake. The only problem is, well, you're not the only one who's been asked for a favor... This complication can be run for either angels or demons ("mixed parties" will find this scenario an unmitigated disaster, which actually makes it even more interesting). It works best if each player is spoken to individually several game sessions beforehand. The encounter between Servitor and Superior should be run to give the PC the impression that he would be better off keeping this little piece of news to himself until the Day. After all, the other PCs may feel obligated to tell their Superiors, possibly warranting unwanted attention and interference. Of course, if one or more blabs, this won't spoil the fun: it'll just increase the slapstick. Tell the PC about the extra friend one session before you spring this on the party. Now, average parties seem to run from 4 to 6. Assuming two NPCs per PC, that will give you 8 to 12 extra, grotesquely inexperienced Servitors to follow the PCs around while they try to accomplish their now hideously overstaffed "showcase" mission. All of them have 9 Forces, basic Choir/Band Attunement, no Earthly experience, the same Songs and Skills (it'll be easier for you if you have one character sheet and a list of names), vessel/6s... and the stereotypes associated with a Somebody of Whatever, taken to obnoxious levels. Bear in mind that it's likely that every NPC is going to be prejudiced against _somebody_ in the party... and that they won't be quiet about it, either. They'll also not follow anybody's orders except "their" PCs (who will find everything that she says written down in little notebooks and underlined. Getting those notebooks back, or destroyed, will be another adventure). Incidentally, they're really pumped for this mission: they're expecting something really, really big: why, their Superior said it could even be critical to the War! They can't wait to tell their Superior all that they did on Earth, once they get back: why, yes, they're going to be personally debriefed. Isn't everyone? ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/25/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 09:48:50 -0600 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Everybody seed - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurice Lane" To: Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 9:40 AM Subject: IN> Everybody seed [snip] > [...] They can't wait to tell their Superior all that > they did on Earth, once they get back: why, yes, > they're going to be personally debriefed. Isn't > everyone? Moe? You suck. *g* - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 08:09:09 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> There is no real urgency to answer this one. Now, I understand that most campaigns do not often have rampaging mecha, Gorilla-Whales, mutant ants or Giant Apes (with an affinity for blonds and the Empire State Building)* as part of the scenery. I deplore this lack, but I do not judge. However, does anyone have a suggestion on how to handle the large amounts of strength that the above lovely visions require, _without_ just giving Mothra 5,000 Corporeal Forces? :) Moe *If it weren't for those two features, King Kong would be a perfect Final War vessel for Jordi. :) ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/25/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 07:57:04 -0800 From: Charles E Smith Subject: IN> Question about PBEM's Hey all! :) I was just wondering if there are any open In Nomine PBEM's out there. I checked the INC, but a lot of the links on the fan pages list were down. :( Any help would be appreciated. Thank you! :) ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! 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User unknown - ------=_NextPart_000_3cc_1eab_4967 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 09:55:19 -0800 Received: from 147.134.85.98 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:55:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [147.134.85.98] From: "Bradley Paranial" To: in_nomine@lists.io.com Subject: A little Fluff to Amuse y'all Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:55:19 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Nov 2000 17:55:19.0297 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A3E2F10:01C057D2] Plam Beach County Fla, The Vote Counters were busy tablutating the Votes, Sacnning the Ballots as they attempted to divine the Diffrence between a "Dimple Chad" and a "Pregent Chad", Nevermind that the Ballots had been had been hadnled and fondle so many times that it was nigh impossable to tell what the ment anymore and the count was being handled by pepole who had a decide intrest in the out come. "This is tow much", thought on of the Clerks working for on of the members of the Canvassing Board "This is so Funny, I could have never guessed my plan would work so well I can hardly contian myself" He prombtly asked that he be let go to have lunch. Same time in Boward County, "This is the Game at it's most beutiful" Thought another clerck "When that Kobalite came to me with this Idea I never Dreamed" With a faint smiled he asked to Excused Two Demons One a Balserpah of the Game another a Blaseraph of Dark Houmor, have put the Presdential Election in Doubt, "Who will win Florida" is a side issue the important thing is "Who will be the New Demon of Recounts?" _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - ------=_NextPart_000_3cc_1eab_4967-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 12:29:20 -0600 From: "Bradley Paranial" Subject: IN> Battle for the Prize Plam Beach County Fla, Hundereds of men and women huddle over thousands of ballots trying to divine the will of the voters from a small dimple. Never mind that the votes have been handle so many times that it is almost impossable for them to be in the smae state they were in on Elction day, and that the Canvassing board had a vested intrest in the Outcome. Or did they, Two of the Three member excuesed themselves and decided to go to the Bathroom both of them had one on of the Imfmaous "Butteryfly Ballots" with them they both enter the mens room and bagan to dance around and sudenly Appeared a Server looking man in a Dark Suit and a man with a bad lavender suit with a squit flower, that look vaguly like the Jocker from an issue of "Batman" who involentatly recoiled from each other. "You have been watching what I have done Prince Asmodeus" One man said "Yes I have" The Demon Prince of the Game Replied "You have served the Game Well, You sahll recvie a Distinction" "And you have seen what I have done Prince Kobal" "Yes I have" Replied the Prince of Dark humor chuckling wickledly "You shall be rewarded" "I desire you my Dark Lord the Word of Recounts" they both said in unision. The Gamester than turned to the Kobalite who until that monet had been his partner in Crime "We had a Deal, I was the one who was to get the Word" The words where backed by the force of his will as the Balseraph tried to use his resonance. "You're the breaking the Deal" The Kobalite Shouted Breaking the Balseraph's reality and and sending the chill of Dissonace up his spine. He than invoked HIS resonce "I was the one who was going to get the word, rember" Extending his onw selfish reality into the shaken fellow Liar. "You're lying" The Gamester Replied breaking the Balserpah's will and Ginving him Dissonace. SILENCE both Deom Princes replied in unison, You all knew it had to come to this didn't you Who do you think deserve to be Demon of Recounts. Bradley Paranial Elohite of the Sword _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 07:57:34 +1100 From: "Azrael/Demigouge" Subject: Re: IN> There is no real urgency to answer this one. > However, does anyone have a suggestion on how to > handle the large amounts of strength that the above > lovely visions require, _without_ just giving Mothra > 5,000 Corporeal Forces? Perhaps a slight modification similar to the Supernatural Damage/Strength of Nightbane, or the Mega Damage/Strength of Rifts/Heroes Unlimited/Palladium? Perhaps an attunement-ish thing available only to mundane creatures( or not so mundane creatures...), that allows them to perfom great feats of strength for no charge, that they automatically acquire upon reaching bloody huge. There is of course the assumed auto success of all strength based roll, no matter what it is, fighting, lifting, pushing, with a fricken' huge check digit for most things, when the PCs complain about; "How am I supposed to take it down without it just squishing me again?", which we all know will be after being squished quite a few times (hehehehe PCs are funny). "I hit Mothra" "You fail, mothra squishes you, you die" "I hit mothra" "You fail, you get squished, you're in Trauma...again" repeat ad infinitum ad nauseum. *Giggle* munchkin-mindset PCs are funny. Azrael ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:50:14 -0500 From: Marc Bowden Subject: Re: IN> Everybody seed - --On Sunday, November 26, 2000 07:40 -0800 Maurice Lane wrote: > Incidentally, they're really pumped for this mission: > they're expecting something really, really big: why, > their Superior said it could even be critical to the > War! They can't wait to tell their Superior all that > they did on Earth, once they get back: why, yes, > they're going to be personally debriefed. Isn't > everyone? Moe? I will *so* get you for this.... Marc. Just Marc. Elohite Angel of Salvation ("Hola, Seņora. I am el fugitivo...") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:13:10 -0600 From: "Tafka J." Subject: IN> Stamps of the Shal-Mari Postal Service. [plot seed] Once, an up and coming Kobalite was on top of things playing the Vegas circuit in the Corporeal realm. . . That was, until one of his hijinks got him ousted by forces of the Game and Greed. Almost as jaded as his Prince, he now has a new plan and it's truly sinister indeed. He's managed to worm his way into the Shal-Mari Postal Service. He has a plan to unvail the new stamp to be used on all post that goes through Shal-Mari. To make things even more amusing, he's decided to unvail two stamps. He'll let the crowd decide, and soon all of Shal-Mari will be sending their important mail with these stamps. One of the stamps shows Asmodeus, dressed much like a Young-Elvis. The other stamp shows Mammon, dressed like the older-fat-Elvis. The prank is definitely suicidal, but one chance to get some measure of revenge before his Forces are ripped apart would not only make him laugh all the way to the Guillotine (or whatever instrument of utter destruction that is used), but it would also bring a smile to his Master's face. After all, that's the most important part. Be seeing you, - - Tafka J. = Balseraph of Fate, Marquis of Delusions of Grandeur # http://www.thrifty.net/~tafkaj/in-nomine ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:47:46 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> You can make anything into a RPG aid, if you look at it right. I was Zen surfing, and I came across this: http://www.beliefnet.com/features/quiz/index.html Ignore the results of the quizzes (according to them, I'm a selfless, non-cynical liberal Catholic who's comfortable with his faith* but a holistic seeker and a mild gossip), but the _questions_ are fun... and possibly helpful when you're trying to determine precisely what your (or your PC's) new Soldier or celestial _really_ believes in. The site looks mainstream, but not sectarian: there's stuff (even trivia/personality type quizzes) on non-Western religions. Moe *I might have broken that one particular test, though. :) ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/25/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:59:26 +0100 From: Benediktq@t-online.de (Benedikt) Subject: IN> Demon of Armaggedon Hy, I just read a novel dealing with the last battle, and this came to my mind: Azazel Balseraph of Fate Baron of the Book of Days Demon of Armaggedon Corporeal Forces - 4 Strength 8 Agility 8 Ethereal Forces - 6 Intelligence 12 Precision 12 Celestial Forces - 6 Will 12 Perception 12 Vessel/3 Charisma+3 (Beautiful human male) Role: "Adam Johnson" Sect leader/6 Status 5 Skills: Detect lies/5, Dodge/3, Emote/6, Fast Talk/4, Knowledge (human emotions)/5, Knowledge (Armaggedon)/6, Languages (you name it, he knows it)/3, Large Weapon (Sword)/6, Savoir Faire/4, Seduction/4, Tracking/5 Songs: Attraction (Ethereal/4), Charm (Celestial/5), Dreams (Corporeal/3, Ethereal/3, Celestial/3), Entropy (Corporeal/3), Light (Corporeal/3, Ethereal/3), Possession/3 Discord: Geas (trigger the final battle)/3, Paranoia/3 Attunements: Balseraph of Fate (with the Mercurian ressonance), Impudite of Fate, Fated Future, Temporal Prjection, Knight of the Winged Chariot, Captain of the Infernal Hourglas, Baron of the Book of Days, Balseraph of War, Demon of Armaggedon Demon of Armaggedon: (1) Azazel can see if it is a personīs Fate to bring forth Armaggedon and (2) which side will probably win. Rites: Do something that will give Hell an advantage in the Final Battle Kill a servitor of Destiny Azazel is one of the most powerfull beings in Hell. He has to be, because nearly all of Heaven wants his head on a stick. He was not very exceptional when he was created two thousand years ago : Just an anverage demon serving in the archives. After one or two hundred years he got his first mission on earth. It was easy, just corrupting some humans.... But then he found out something interesting: While using his Fated Future attunement on a human, he discovered that it was this humans Fate to bring forth Armaggedon!!! Slowly he realized something: if it was the FATE of that little monkey, then maybe the Last Battle would be GOOD for hell... He started to work, and he was really good at it. Gabriel blew her trumped 5 times (and not one of the seven signs occured!*). Heaven was totally confused and perhaps the world would have ended if there hadnīt been a young servitor of Yves, who discovered Azazelīs plot. He informed his Superior and Heaven acted. Azazel was nearly soul killed but the Dark Lord himself intervened. The demon was sorrounded by his enemies when Lucifer took him to the Lower Hells. The Balseraph expected death for failing Satan but what he got was a word. >From that day on, Azazel grew in power, serving his master (and Baal, who likes this nice, little servitor of Fate**). He tried to start Armaggedon two times, every time he was stopped just a moment before it was to late, and every time it cost Heaven dearly. And on the top of that he managed to stay alive. He has grown nearly as powerful as a superior now, and some weeks ago he found a new human. Maybe heīs winning this time. *that is the greatest advantage, when a human tries to start Armaggedon ** Kobal and Azazel donīt like each other. Kobal thinks that this little upstart has no humor, and Azazel thinks that Kobal should stay out of his teritory. ("this idiotic try to start Armaggedon....") Okay, your comments? Sammael ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:22:21 -0600 From: "Tafka J." Subject: IN> The Seven Deadly Sins [Location] Every year, there is a gathering at a randomly selected drinking establishment -- No, this place isn't quite the Eighth Virtue (YAH, p. 10). It all started about three centuries ago when seven powerful Shedim decided to come to the same establishment quite by accident (though some whisper that Lucifer had planned the thing all along). What made this gathering unique was that they all embodied one of the seven deadly sins: An envious Servitor of Theft, a Servitor of Gluttony, a Servitor of Greed, a Servitor of Lust, a prideful Servitor of the War, a slothful Servitor of Death, and a Wrathful Servitor of Fire. During the course of their stay they all had a little contest -- to see which of their particular sin was the most dominant by evening's end. The winner was declared head of the 'Seven Deadly Sins', and was tasked with finding a new place to hold their little gathering (someplace far away from their current location due to the Angelic party-poopers that tend to crash these sorts of things when they get totally out of hand). Over the years, they've lost three of their founding members and have since replaced them: A Servitor of Factions now holds court as 'Envy', a corrupter of the Media serves as 'Sloth', and a Shedite of Hardcore managed to slay the original holder of 'Wrath'. Be seeing you, - - Tafka J. = Balseraph of Fate, Marquis of Delusions of Grandeur # http://www.thrifty.net/~tafkaj/in-nomine ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:18:48 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Urban Legends Parts I & II - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > I enjoyed both of these. The idea of a Word-bound > ethereal is precisely the sort of thing that makes > Dominic take the celestial equivalent of Maalox. That's the idea. };;;> > PS: I'm sorry, but I must ask: have you seen Terry > Pratchett's *Hogfather*? It has a description of the > Tooth Fairy in it that you might find very... > interesting. If memory serves, Pratchett cast the Tooth Fairy as someone who knows how to delegate -- which would bother Dominic even more, I imagine. Hmmm, an Ethereal Tooth Fairy with Pagan Soldiers who all have the Tooth Fairy Attunement... ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Laugh and the world laughs with you. Snore and you sleep alone." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:21:37 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> new to the list, the game and all - --- rossk wrote: > hi there listmembers. > i just bought a new copy of in nomine (my first being donated as a > going > away present, long story) and got up to the point in characters where > it mentions "words". > i understand the concept but do players get to choose their own? or > are the handed out like rewards? Players get to pick the Words that their characters serve (i.e. the various Superiors). As for PC's having Words of their own, it's certainly something that you can let them work toward. But letting PC's start out Word-bound is a Very Bad Idea from a game balance standpoint. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Laugh and the world laughs with you. Snore and you sleep alone." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:25:26 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine Contest> Demons you tend to underestimate - --- Charles Phipps wrote: > Demons you might regret viewing as "small potatoes" > > Bill > Free Lilim > (most commonly viewed as a servitor of Haagenti) Heh heh... I like. My players would never see this coming. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Laugh and the world laughs with you. Snore and you sleep alone." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:32:06 -0600 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Armaggedon - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benedikt" To: Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 4:59 PM Subject: IN> Demon of Armaggedon [snip] >Gabriel blew her trumped 5 times (and not one of the seven signs occured!*). Heaven [snip] > *that is the greatest advantage, when a human tries to start Armaggedon [snip] > Okay, your comments? While other people may interpret them differently, I don't agree at all... Let's visit _Final Trumpet_, page 67, and look at the seven prophecies that govern the seven soundings of Gabriel's horn. And the sign in question *must* occur *before* the Horn is blown. First Trumpet -- "A Great City Is Emptied Of The Children Of Heaven" -- it doesn't matter whether or not this occurs because of human action, celestial action, or even a meteor strike. All that matters is that a great city be completely emptied of angels (or angels + demons, according to one interp) Second Trumpet -- "The Holiest Man In The World Dies By Hands Not Mortal" -- this one *does* specify who must be committing the action -- and it specifies that it must be a non-human who does it! (While most often, it's a demon doing the killing... an angel would work just fine. So would an ethereal spirit, for that matter. Or an undead, or a Saint...) Third Trumpet -- "The Mortal Tyrant Harvests A Million Souls" -- again, this one specifies the nature of the person committing the act... and this time, it's *required* to be a mortal. Fourth Trumpet -- "An Ancient Evil Breaks Its Bonds" -- This one can be fulfilled by damned near anything, just so long as its ancient and evil. Magog was the one used in Final Trumpet, but if Magog had not been there then the Midgard Serpent might well have qualified! (Heck, a 3000-year-old imp finally snapping out of Trauma and coming back to the corporeal plane to light hotfoots would *technically* qualify... it said "Ancient Evil", it didn't say "Ancient and Powerful Evil".) Fifth Trumpet -- "In Unity, War Is Embraced" -- This one is already set... it requires either all the Demon Princes or all the Archangels voting unanimously for war. You cannot have the Fifth Trumpet unless Heaven or Hell has decided, unanimously across the top ranks, that the time for Armageddon is now. Armageddon is not an event that can be casually triggered. Baal, one of the mightiest of the Demon Princes, has tried several times and failed. The idea that one ordinary Word-bound can not only come much closer but can do so while violating a *true* prophecy of Gabriel's (which means directly contradicting the direct Word of God)... ... sorry, I don't see it. - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #1940 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2000 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.