From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Fri Dec 1 12:35:59 2000 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17745 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:35:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id MAA12790 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:36:56 -0600 Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:36:56 -0600 Message-Id: <200012011836.MAA12790@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1953 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Friday, December 1 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1953 In this digest: Re: IN> The Demon of John Cleese Re: IN> Cellphones IN> Cleesial IN> Hooray For Humans, by someone else Re: IN> God's Word-bound (Re: Netanya, the Angel of the SelflessGift) Re: IN> Hooray For Humans, by someone else Re: IN> Demon of Gallagher Re: IN> Re: Yves' pad Re: IN> The Demon of John Cleese IN> One of the most powerful Ethereals... IN> Re: Yves' pad IN> Re: God's Word-bound Re: IN> One of the most powerful Ethereals... Re: IN> The Demon of John Cleese Re: IN> The Demon of John Cleese Re: IN> Hurray for Humans, Part 1 Re: IN> One of the most powerful Ethereals... Re: IN> The Demon of John Cleese Re: IN> One of the most powerful Ethereals... IN> Soldiers of Heaven switching Superiors and/or angels IN> Lilith's Web IN> LIL: Heaven -- Superior Reactions 1 of 2 (The Consolidation yadda yadda) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 00:17:14 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> The Demon of John Cleese From: "Erich S. Arendall" > > Although if someone ever comes out with the Angel/Demon of Gallagher, I'm > putting down In Nomine and walking far away. Clabite of Dorky Humor. Can I have your books now? ;) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 04:42:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Rhodri James Subject: Re: IN> Cellphones In article , John Dallman wrote: > Santiago wrote: > > Of course, you shouldn't mention anything too important over a cell > > phone, though using a scrambled hard line is generally okay. > Digital mobiles are hard to tap, since they're already encrypted. Our > Malakite of Jean had a go at the ones our PCs use, and now they're > /really/ hard to tap. But you work with slang, and by reference to the > known situation anyway; it's pretty easy to make up pseudonyms as you go > along. It does help that at least one member of the party speaks fluent Cryptic. The seraph regularly has to resonate on him for subtitles. The player was responsible for the line "I have laid my cards on the table... face down." - -- Rhodri James *-* Wildebeeste herder to the masses If you don't know who I work for, you can't misattribute my words to them ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:12:48 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Eng Subject: IN> Cleesial > Cleesial, since his word forces depend on the health and > well being of John Cleese, is currently considering options > for making him hellsworn but notes that will likely be > difficult as of all the demons in the world Cleesial is > one of the most silly. > OTOH, if Lucifer finds Cleesial to be sufficiently amusing, he might realign Cleesial's Word to create the Demon of John Cleese Impressions. Which could result in an alliance between Kobal and Nybbas to name the Demon of Elvis Impersonators, or some such. Eww. Badthought...Demon of Incompetent Mimes. Sure, it'd only be two or three Word forces. I think. What is the minimum on Word Forces, anyhow? (Now you know why Gulbol didn't have numbers attached...I don't have all the books...the GM had them...and the game died...WAAH!) Peter Eng ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 01:36:03 -0600 From: "Robert Behrman" Subject: IN> Hooray For Humans, by someone else I'm not the guy who started Hooray for Humans, but I love human characters in In Nomine and wanted to put in a kind of tragic character. This guy's kind of a thought experiment along the lines of William Keith's 'Pagan Mummies' posting in digest 1952. He is inspired in part by Soren Kierkegaard's Sickness Unto Death, part by Sartre's Nausea, and part by Skelly Mannor from the Rimers of Eldritch (a play that i'm auditioning for at my school). Anton Simmons: Mummy, unaligned Corporeal Forces: 3 Strength - 8 , Agility - 4 Ethereal Forces: 2 Intelligence - 5 (improved), Precision - 4 Celestial Forces: 2 Will - 8 (improved), Perception - 3 Status: 4, Charisma -2 (seedy looking & acting, plus he's dead) Skills: Fighting - 3 (Aikido), Dodge - 2 (Aikido), Detect Lies - 3, Lying - 2, Rifles - 3, Knowledge (banking) - 3, Knowledge (cars) - 2, Mechanics -2, Driving - 2, Swimming - 1 Songs: Celestial Form - 2, Corporeal Healing - 4, Corporeal Entropy - 2, Ethereal Healing - 2, Corporeal Shields - 2, Posession - 3, Corporeal Unlife - 2 Attunements: Blessed, toughness - 2; Disadvantages - Addicted/3 (tobacco and liquor.) Rites: Cause an accident that gets at least one person killed or permanently maimed - 1 essence. Physically, Anton is a large (6' 3", 238 lbs) white man in his middle age. He drinks and smokes because of a mental craving and force of habit; it doesn't affect him and hasn't for longer than most people have been alive. He is insanely tough, and quite lucky. He has been shot several times in his life, and still has 3 bullets lodged in various parts of his corpse. Over the years, through sheer experience, his will has become solid as a rock. He is quite powerful for a mummy, and because he is so old knows quite a few songs. He is independently wealthy from his old investments, and lives off a trust fund that he nurtured through the depression. He drives a 1975 Eldorado, which is his favorite hobby and one of the few things that makes him smile. Anton is old, and alone. Born in 1895, he grew up in the dying part of the Gilded age; inspired by Rockefeller and Carnegie, he was raised with success as his first goal. He apprenticed as a banker before he was drafted to service in World War I, and gained his 6h natural force and the attention of Hell in the trenches there. He sold his soul in 1922 for connections in banking, and was quite busy helping people out of windows come 1929. He reinlisted in the army in 39 as an officer, and was sent as commander of an artillery company to italy in '43. He died there; shot by his own own troops after misplacing an artillery barrage by 10 degrees, onto an advancing infantry company. He was turned into a mummy by his superior on the operating table, and dishonorably discharged for gross negligence the same day. Cursed to eternal unlife under the thumb of a demon of Saminga; traded around for chump jobs to servitors of Kronos, Kobal, and Haagenti at different times; and given the comeuppance that Hellsworn are sworn to. Anton was in a bad way, until he was granted a favor by an unlikely comer. He (completely inadvertently) saved the corporeal vessel of a powerful free Lilim, who granted him in turn a powerful Geas on her. He used this Geas and the clout of the Lilim to barter for his freedom from his masters, and then RAN (away from his unknowing wife, kids, and dog). He spent the Korean war up to the Kennedy assasination laying low, trying not to do anything that would attract the attention of his former bosses. All too often he would lash out, and was jailed twice for rape, once for assault and battery, and once for possession of child porno (its amazing what you will try when you're frustrated and dead). 1970: In the fourth major event of his 'life' (after being born, died, and freed), he ran afoul of a Seraphim of David. He immediately and cowardly surrendered, and in the process of his interrogation by the Seraph, he learned the truth of his non-afterlife, the fact that NOTHING WILL EVER HELP HIM. Enter the change in his life. He realizes that selfishness is meaningless to him. He exists, and he is alone, and accountable only for himself. In the bright realm of values, he is alone, with no justification before him and no excuses behind him (direct rip off of Sarte). He has been a pervert, murderer, sociopath, and in general bad fellow. All of which is meaningless to him. The servitor of David tried to convince him to join the war for Heaven's sake, and for several years he tried (providing advice from his jail cell). He left prison, and tried to be a soldier of God; but as the years passed, as the Hellsworn died, the bitterness towards his former bosses began to fade. The anger, hatred, etc. towards his former masters faded. He began to study Aikido in a Dojo run by a friend of his master (the angelic master, that is). He is sick and tired of making war for the souls of man. He left his master (amiably), and does things for others. He will no longer kill for peace, and he smiles at the good in even the vilest people he meets, and he lets the bad that he sees roll of him. Neither can hurt him. He has spent the last decade trying to make his life happier, and has by and large succeeded. Amd when the hour glass of his life has run out and everything about him is still, the only thing that will matter is whether he has lived in despair or not. (ripped almost verbatim from Kierkegaard) Later: RAB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 07:29:29 -0000 From: "I. Inayat" Subject: Re: IN> God's Word-bound (Re: Netanya, the Angel of the SelflessGift) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Manny Nepomuceno" To: Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 3:44 AM Subject: Re: IN> God's Word-bound (Re: Netanya, the Angel of the SelflessGift) > on 12/1/00 11:00 AM, Kay Dekker at kay@quickhacks.co.uk wrote: > As I understand it, God speaks through Yves and (occasionally) Gabriel. Speaks _to_ Yves (S3 shows the truth is... a little more complicated). But Gabriel _is_ a prophet.... > I know the canon answer is in the GMG, but I lent my copy out...I'm sure > someone on this list will provide it later on. IIRC it's either Uriel's > recall to the higher heavens (and Laurence's subsequent promotion) or > Gabriel's dictation of the Quran, (I don't remember which came later). > The last appearance mentioned is Uriel's recall. There is one thing that sticks in my mind, though; it's mentioned in Khalid's writeup in S3 that there are rumours that the Seraphim Council may not have made him an Archangel - they simply confirmed a status that he'd already attained, whether it was through his own effort, or whether it had been granted by God... Whether this is _true_ is probably Fnord... > And IIRC the newest AA is Zadkiel. Christopher became an Archangel after > the Children's Crusade (I assume it was as a response to that particular > Crusade). Christopher was made Angel of Children as a response to the Children's Crusade. He became an Archangel in 1978. (Zadkiel became an Archangel in 500 BC.) So Chris is the latest AA known... but whether there are any rumours that God intervened in making him one is probably Fnord until the writeup comes out. > Let me just say that I really, really appreciate the timeline published in > the GMG. It helps put all the source material into perspective. > Agreed. Most definitely agreed. Imran ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 00:37:47 -0700 From: Tim Groth Subject: Re: IN> Hooray For Humans, by someone else > I'm not the guy who started Hooray for Humans, but I love >human characters Cool. I thought I implied that I'd like to see lots of human characters written on. Humans rocks (yeah, yeah, biased opinion). This is the only thing nudging me to buy GURPS IN, a finer power distinction means human characters become more playable. - -- Timothy, Angel of Rambling Ofanite of Creation ArchRival of Mathus If you have time to kill, why not kill it at http://ucsub.Colorado.edu/~grothtp/In.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 09:32:53 From: "Daniel Gallagher" Subject: Re: IN> Demon of Gallagher Demon? Hey what did I do? Seriously though beeing the Demon of Gallagher would be kinda sad. It'd already be a dying word seeing how the man's been doing lately. What would make more sense would be Gallagher being a demon. Maybe the Demon of Hitting Things With a Sledgehammer to Make People Laugh. Or even better a Soilder of Hell. This is just me talking though. Daniel Archangel of Slackers "The world is... um, pass the doritos." _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 00:12:03 +1100 From: "Azrael/Demigouge" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Yves' pad > >>Only in a Dark Campaign. A very, very, very Dark > >>campaign. > >It's strongly implied in S3 that they were. > >jo > > I'll take your word for it, Jo, but I don't think that > I'd ever explore that possibility in anything I do. > It's... well, disquieting. > > Moe I agree with Moe here, very disquieting ...kindly like your grandfather taking up with a supermodel...it's just not the right image. Azrael o_O ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 08:01:06 -0600 From: "Erich S. Arendall" Subject: Re: IN> The Demon of John Cleese > > Although if someone ever comes out with the Angel/Demon of Gallagher, I'm > > putting down In Nomine and walking far away. > > Clabite of Dorky Humor. Can I have your books now? ;) I just said I was putting it down, I didn't say I was going to /give/ anything away! *notes all the Gallagher related threads* Dear Asmodeus, what have I begun? He's gonna transfer me to Kobal after this screw-up, no doubt! ...Angel of Hunter S. Thompson? That has potential! Soldier of Man: Joel Robinson (Of MST3K fame)