From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Wed Dec 13 21:16:56 2000 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA07668 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:16:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id VAA21761 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:16:08 -0600 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:16:08 -0600 Message-Id: <200012140316.VAA21761@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1970 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Wednesday, December 13 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1970 In this digest: Re: IN> Did some one write a Song of Time? Re: IN> IN-Some background source quotes? Re: IN> Yes, I'm afraid so. IN> Oh, no, not another Minor Band Re: IN> LIL1: Alaemon Re: IN> Grey Celestials Re: IN> Some of the most powerful Ethereals... Re: IN> Dietary Requirements Re: IN> Some of the most powerful Ethereals... Re: IN> Sock Hop (with occasional gunplay) Re: IN> IN-Some background source quotes? Re: IN> brief questions Re: IN> LIL1: Alaemon IN> Supermarket Adventure Re: IN> brief questions IN> Re: Angelic Check Digit Tables? Re: New adventure seed (WAS: Re: Lilith Tangent (Re: IN> Weirdquestion)) Re: New adventure seed (WAS: Re: Lilith Tangent (Re: IN> Weirdquestion)) Re: IN> Some of the most powerful Ethereals... Re: New adventure seed (WAS: Re: Lilith Tangent (Re: IN> Weirdquestion)) Re: IN> brief questions Re: IN> Some of the most powerful Ethereals... Re: IN> brief questions Re: New adventure seed (WAS: Re: Lilith Tangent (Re: IN> Weirdquestion)) Re: IN> Some of the most powerful Ethereals... Re: IN> brief questions Re: New adventure seed (WAS: Re: Lilith Tangent (Re: IN> Weirdquestion)) Re: New adventure seed (WAS: Re: Lilith Tangent (Re: IN>Weirdquestion)) IN> Someone's done this right? IN> Minor Choir of Yves??? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:23:30 -0800 From: Charles E Smith Subject: Re: IN> Did some one write a Song of Time? Seriously, that reminds me: anyone do a minor Choir of Yves yet?** :)<<< Okay, I'll bite. :) - -------------------------------------------------------------------- The Akashicists-The Keepers of the Records The organization of Destiny is sometimes as mysterious as the Archangel who runs it. Charged with the task of bringing the universe itself to its' ultimate Destiny, protectors of mortals against the dark influences of Fate, and caretakers of the Great Library of Heaven, the angels of Destiny have no easy task. However, it might be argued that the Akashicists have the hardest task of all of them. The Akashicists are the minor choir of Yves whose sole task is to preserve the memories of the universe. This they do by recording all of eternity into the imperishable Akashic Records, the Infinite Archives of Time and Destiny. This is not as easy as it might sound. After all, one must gather the knowledge, often as it is occuring, and then record it into the Records while not missing anything. The knowledge that missing even the most insignificant detail of a mortal's life or of an event on one of the three planes could result in the loss of irreplaceable and critical knowledge weighs heavily on every Akashicist's mind. Fortunately, they do have help. First of all there is the Great Library itself. The Library was once the Cathedral of Raphael, the Archangel of Knowledge, and it has connections to all sources of recorded knowledge in existence. This massive collection of knowledge enables the Akashicists to gather and collate the knowledge of the universe quite rapidly, especially in this era of computers. Secondly, the Archangels Yves and Jean both take an interest in the activities of this minor Choir. Jean sees in the Akashicists the potenial to preserve the advances of science for all time. Yves...who knows what Yves foresees, but he does spend a great deal of time in the private section of the Library where the Records are kept. In Celestial form, the Akashicists appear as a tall, shade-like humanoids, uniformly clad in monkish, hooded robes of brown, white, or gray. From their backs emerge a pair of feathery white wings, and their golden halos are usually subdued in the light of the glowing Records. Their eyes are a soft, glowing golden color within the shadows of their hood and faces, and their hands are usually folded before them in a position of humility. CHOIR RESONANCE Akashicists can, by using their natural resonance, see a person's past and future lives. Past lives come through quite clearly, but future lives are always shadowy and difficult to discern. It is in this way that Akashicists can better advise Yves on those cases where a person's future Destiny or Fate might require his personal attentions. In addition, all Akashicists begin with the Right of Passage and Akashic Record attunements of Destiny. DISSONANCE Misfiling or improperly gathering information on people or events leads to dissonance for an Akashicist. Their important task is very stern, not allowing much room for failure or incompetence. ROLE IN THE WAR The Akashicists do not really get out much, or for long periods when they do. Their lives are spent in the Akashic Records, filing and preserving the knowledge of the past, present, and future. They don't really have social lives, and the affairs of Heaven and the War are often puzzling and confusing to them. They just record, they don't get involved. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:33:12 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> IN-Some background source quotes? - --- Philippe Bolay wrote: > does anyone have some quotes from > various texts where those have been mentioned? I never read the bible > on any other holy texts, but I must admit that I have a weakness for > those writings. Powerful is the word. All this cool stuff they always > say in the movies "and the birds shall fall severed from the sky" > etc. Anyone have some for me? Try the Old Testament prophets (Isaiah, Jeremiah and Lamentations are my faves). Revelation is good for a few laughs, too. 0;> ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "...faith is only pure when it does not negate the faith of another." -- Eli Weisel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:47:42 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Yes, I'm afraid so. - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > Them > Ethereal, Surprisingly not that Giant, Ants Just when I recover from last night's foolishness, Moe has to go and smite me again. I did wonder why the leader of Them isn't Her (seeing as there's no such thing as a king ant), but it didn't occur to me until I stopped laughing. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "...faith is only pure when it does not negate the faith of another." -- Eli Weisel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:56:13 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: IN> Oh, no, not another Minor Band - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > Seriously, that reminds me: anyone do a minor Choir of > Yves yet?** :) > **Before you ask, I was going to write up a minor > Choir/Band set of Yvesian/Kronoser time-travelers, but > Ben's exhibition got put on hold and I never got > around to it. I like doing them, but the sheer labork > involved usually means that I'm too lazy to work out > any unless I'm under a deadline, or something. :) Monday. The Choir and the Band. Posted and logged. Consider the gauntlet thrown. And just to get you started, chew on this. }:::> Personae ("The Imposters") "So, " said the Nybbite, "What's my motivation?" I gritted my teeth and allowed myself a moment's annoyance before answering. "One of Belial's boys toasted a Blackwing about an hour ago. That's the angel's outline on the pavement over there. Now, there are some more Halos coming in to investigate. You want to keep them in the dark." "Got it," said the Imposter. He concentrated for a moment, then his form shifted into that of an archetypal policeman complete with uniform. The pseudo-cop swaggered up to the police line -- where I knew a Triad of Judges waited -- and called out in a too-loud voice, "Move along, folks, nothing to see here." The sea of curious Humans parted before him as if he were Moses. I shook my head at the spectacle. Lightbringer save me from dealing with Nybblets. The youngest of the Minor Bands is Nybbas secret weapon. The Personae cover Media's tracks when it's important to keep the Host from discovering diabolical involvement. Nybbas often loans them to other Princes, but none has left his service and lived long enough to brag about it. In Nybbas' show biz-themed system of secondary Band names, the Imposters are known as Walk-ons. Personae divide all beings into three categories. They and their fellow Nybbites are Cast, the rest of Hell's forces are Crew and everyone else is Audience. A Persona lives for his moment in the sun. This tendency to hog the spotlight is probably why Nybbas has made so few of them -- it's never a good idea to upstage the boss. Resonance A Persona doesn't just act, she buries herself in the part. They are such terrifyingly good actors that they can even fool the Symphony. A successful Resonance roll allows a Walk-on to create a temporary Role with a duration of the demon's Corporeal Forces in hours. "Breaking character" before this time is up requires a successful Will roll. The level of the Role is equal to the Check Digit. If the Imposter gets a CD of 6, the Seraph of Destiny Attunement detects the name of the demon's Role as his true name! Dissonance Imposters are so good at being other people that it hurts to be themselves. A Persona acquires a note of Dissonance for doing anything that would be out of character for her current Role. This includes (but is not limited to) any use of supernatural powers that can be detected with unaided Human senses. It is also Dissonant to break character in the presence of an Audience member. The only exception is an angel who already knows or suspects that the Walk-on is a demon. Manner and Appearance Personae are the poster children of nondescript. They blend in perfectly in whatever surroundings they find themselves. Nybbas has trained his champion actors to "wait in the wings" until they get the cue to go "onstage." Once they are in character, Imposters ham it up shamelessly. All of their pent-up flamboyance erupts when they know that the spotlight is on them. No matter what the quality of their performance, Personae are immune to criticism. It's indifference that wounds them. Personae have strong gender preferences; those who see themselves as female rarely take on male Roles and vice versa. The Band is evenly divided between masculine- and feminine-aspected demons. Walk-ons are the only demons who are more impressive on the Corporeal plane than they are in Hell. Their celestial forms are human-shaped wisps of vapor without a trace of facial features. Though larger than Imps and Gremlins, Personae are smaller than most damned souls. Imposters naturally draw their musical identity from the instruments that are best at sounding like other instruments -- in Hell's orchestra, they are the synthesizers. Band Attunement (Restricted) The Prince of the Media makes sure that his Imposters can take care of their own costumes and make-up. When played by a Persona using its Resonance, the Celestial Song of Form lasts for as long as the Role does if the changes are appropriate to the part. At the cost of 2 additional Essence, the Song also changes the demon's clothing into an appropriate costume. The mortal servants of Personae are go-fers, production assistants and other minor functionaries whose very unimportance allows them to hear things and go places that more noticeable personalities don't have access to. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "...faith is only pure when it does not negate the faith of another." -- Eli Weisel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:14:59 -0800 From: "Kish" Subject: Re: IN> LIL1: Alaemon I'm enjoying reading this. For this one, I have a couple questions: From: Whistling in the Dark <> How does a Shedite leave Deep Cover? That is, can the Shedite automatically make a resonance roll to switch to normal possession of the host? Or to take over a new host touching the current host, as with normal possession? Or does it have to go celestial to get out of Deep Cover? <> "Dark," as in harder to understand, or is this just flavor? - -- Kish ICQ#: 28085879 AIM: Kish K M Kish_K@mindspring.replacewithcom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:16:28 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Grey Celestials - --- Perry Lloyd wrote: > There are rumored to exist celestial beings who are not bound by a > choir or > band, who exist outside of heaven and hell. Who are they? What are > they capable of? Do they exist except as a rumor? There are many such beings. They're called Ethereals. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "...faith is only pure when it does not negate the faith of another." -- Eli Weisel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:18:43 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Some of the most powerful Ethereals... - --- Earl Wajenberg wrote: > Actually, the nearly-featureless Auditors of Reality, described > by Terry Pratchett in "Reaper Man" and "Hogfather" are a pretty > good depiction of the Great Grey They, at least in an inimical > mood. > > (For those haven't read those books, the Auditors would prefer > a totally inanimate universe and find people, in particular, > distasteful. They appear as grey robes with nothing inside them. > When they communicate, you find yourself remembering words that > you are not hearing. If any of them act with any personal > feeling, they instantly disappear; this tends to keep them in > line.) Sounds like the IRS -- Infernal Revenue Service -- to me. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "...faith is only pure when it does not negate the faith of another." -- Eli Weisel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:22:06 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Dietary Requirements - --- Earl Wajenberg wrote: > My impression is that different Ethereals have different needs > regarding humanity and Essence: > > Some, notably gods, need to be worshipped, which presumably > sends them Essence, or they fade away. > > Some, notably "realized fictions," just need engage a lot of > interest, attention, or emotion, or they fade away. > > Some don't need anything from outside sources. These, I think, > are called "primal spirits." Seems to me that all any Ethereal needs is interest. Worship is just a highly focused form of interest. Dream fragments need a continuation of whatever spawned them. Primals can get by on the diffuse acknowledgement that comes from constantly being regarded even when they're not being consciously thought about. Consider -- we don't spend much time thinking about gravity, but neither are we ever completely unaware of it. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "...faith is only pure when it does not negate the faith of another." -- Eli Weisel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:25:14 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Some of the most powerful Ethereals... - --- John Dallman wrote: > damienw@juno.com blasphemed: > > > (Say, IS there a Demon of Punnery? No, worse yet... is > > an *ANGEL* of Punnery possible?) > > Same guy. He's a bit of a yo-yo. Anyone who causes so many angels to > want > to hit him has trouble staying up; anyone who so keenly wants to > amuse > demons has trouble staying down. Kobal thinks it's hilarious. It's > not > quite clear which Archangel he comes under when he's up, but > Christopher and Yves keep claiming it's the other one. Nah... Punnery's got to fall (note the lack of an uppercase "F") under Eli. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "...faith is only pure when it does not negate the faith of another." -- Eli Weisel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:29:36 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Sock Hop (with occasional gunplay) - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > Guess what night all the Malakim are flying in? Moe, you are an evil, twisted little man -- and I'm proud to know you. };;;> ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "...faith is only pure when it does not negate the faith of another." -- Eli Weisel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:35:34 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> IN-Some background source quotes? - --- Earl Wajenberg wrote: > Cherubim are mentioned in Genesis, in the scene where Adam > and Eve are expelled from the Garden of Eden. They are mentioned > in the greatest detail at the beginning of Ezekiel. If the > Ophanim are mentioned _as_angels_, it's here, too. > > Seraphim are mentioned in Isaiah 6. > > Michael is described as an archangel in Jude 1, and the term is > used in 1 Thessalonians 4. Gabriel introduces himself by name in the Gospels (that whole Annunciation thing). Michaal also appears in Daniel. For some other takes, try the Koran and other Middle Eastern sources -- Gabriel is named there as Djibril. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "...faith is only pure when it does not negate the faith of another." -- Eli Weisel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:38:13 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> brief questions > At 9:35 AM +0000 12/13/00, cassandra benner wrote: > > >1- what is the hebrew or latin word for _epiphany_ I don't know the word for epiphany, but the Hebrew for a revelatory word direct from God is rhema (sp?). Or I could be a bit off and that's Greek. Either way, I hope it helps. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "...faith is only pure when it does not negate the faith of another." -- Eli Weisel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:45:29 -0500 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> LIL1: Alaemon At 5:14 PM -0800 12/13/00, Kish wrote: ><Cover operatives. When using their Resonance to possess a victim, >they may choose to either possess them as normal, or to enter Deep >Cover. With a successful use of this attunement, a Shedite may slip >into their target's brain and sit, completely undetectable, with >access to everything the target senses and to the target's thoughts.>> > >How does a Shedite leave Deep Cover? That is, can the Shedite >automatically make a resonance roll to switch to normal possession of >the host? Or to take over a new host touching the current host, as >with normal possession? Or does it have to go celestial to get out of >Deep Cover? A Shedite would have to leave the host and reresonate to possess their deep cover host. They could still 'ooze' between hosts as per the IPG and possess someone else without going Celestial. ><complete darkness, allowing them to read files under cover of >darkness or otherwise perform their duties without running the risk >of using lights. Printed materials they gather with the Snapshot >attunement will be reproduced properly, though video recordings >produced will be dark.>> > >"Dark," as in harder to understand, or is this just flavor? Rephrased -- if they Snapshot printed materials, they can reproduce those materials as normal, but if they try to reproduce an event they saw on a videotape, it will be a videotape of the darkness. Their Distinction doesn't give them the ability to provide light sources for the 'filming.' - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:01:46 -0500 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: IN> Supermarket Adventure This adventure seed is suitable for angels, demons, or generally supernatural PCs of any stripe. (A quick search in the digests shows none, but if someone's written up a Demon of Supermarket Tabloids, my apology. This is, hopefully, totally independent of that writeup should it exist.) Everyone who's been on Earth duty for a while has one of them. You know the story. The novice Seraph in the supermarket? "...and so she's finally gotten past the advertisements... *chuckle*... and she's in the checkout aisle... heee... and then the poor thing sees the TABLOIDS...." and everybody falls over laughing from knowing what's coming next. Well, of course the tabloids are full of lies. That's exactly what the Demon of Tabloids wants them to be, although he doesn't call them that. What most people call "reality" is so boring; this bright Balseraph of the Media has a positive *duty* to spice things up, especially for the bored housewives that make up the largest part of his clientele. And if, while he's at it, he can open people up to some of the more outlandish possibilities from the seedier kind of "respectable" TV show, well, that's just his two bits for the Cause. Problem is, the tabloids have gotten a bit down-at-heels recently. Wide distribution leads to high circulation numbers, to be sure, but there's not the kind of cult following he had in the good old days. Being synonymous with "fakery" has its down side. What to do, what to do? ...Enter the PCs. "ANGELS AND DEMONS DUKE IT OUT IN SHADOWY ALLEY," screams the headline. Same old same old for tabloid fare, but unfortunately it's got Pick-Your-PC's face plastered all over the front page of the Weekly Global Inquisition, and that distinctive Fiery Sword of his in sharp detail. Speaking of sharp, that's a decidely wounded demon with Numinous Corpus: Horns going on in the background there. Come to think of it, this looks a lot like the rumble you fellows got into last week. Oh, well. So a random Mundane got some weird pictures. There's no hard evidence, and at worst it'll rate a lecture on keeping the War under wraps from your immediate superior. Next week, different tabloid, new pictures. Say, isn't that what'shisface, the celestial working the Tether over on 5th, and gosh, what a nice set of disappearing angels he's got in the background, under the headline "GATEWAY TO HEAVEN IN BINGO ROOM OF ST. MARTIN'S." If the PCs aren't worried yet, their bosses will be, at least a little. Moreover, a few more pictures like this cropping up, especially involving some of those puzzling unsolved assaults, robberies, and beheadings, and the local police will notice. But they won't call the tabloids. Oh no. Too embarassing. So they'll start their own investigation, and by the way, is your Role paperwork up to date, and just how many killed Vessels have your PCs been trying to hide recently? Between the cops and the pressure from the players' bosses, not to mention occasionally getting recognized by the strangest people on the street, the PCs should have every motivation by this point to find out what's going on. A little legwork will reveal a common "freelance photographer," but finding him isn't going to put a stop to the photography; hardly. The photog is in fact said Demon of Tabloids, and some real footage from the War(easily found with some of his contacts, plus a few drops of blood or something from a previous battle site, with the Corporeal Song of Affinity) is making for great face on the front page, plus scooping the "respectable" papers on real unsolved crimes is really tweaking their noses and gaining him some of the much-loved cred back. In fact, this is working out so well, he's thinking about expanding this little test nationally. The investigation, and pursuing methods of redress, should have a number of twists and turns, plenty of which are up to the GM, but really ought to include dribbles of hints about actual plans of the Other Side, plus several possible wild goose chases, like "DEMON-POSSESSED TRACTOR ATTEMPTS TO PLOW OVER FARMER IN IDAHO." Vapulan plot? Nah, drunk Idahoan farmer. Come on, you really believe the kind of stuff you read in the tabloids? Possible results from PCs' actions: If the PCs miss the problem, it's easy enough to have it pointed out to them by their local commander, with a mission to deal with the threat. Noticing it themselves, however, should justify some additional reward for having pointed out the problem. If the PCs fail to solve or stop things, the Demon of the Tabloids will expand his program nationally, at which point Nybbas is going to notice, and will crack down on him, hard. Considerable damage will, however, already have been done to any number of cover identities in the War, on both sides, and any number of minor plans will have to be relaid. If the PCs had been assigned the mission, the usual ill effects should occur. If the PCs had noticed the problems themselves and undertaken the mission on their own initiative, well, no plus no minus on your part, you might have just bit off more than you could chew. Report things more regularly next time. Naturally, it will be better if the PCs can stop the Demon before he organizes Soldiers to do the same job in many cities across the nation, teaching them the Song of Affinity and getting them into contact positions. If things go this far but have not yet been published, the PCs' superior will probably assign some extra help in the other cities, lowering the PCs' share of the credit(thought, of course, a succesful mission is a successful mission). The best result is, of course, if the PCs manage to stop things at the local level, before much further damage is done. Their Superior should be quite pleased, knowing full well what could have happened. The police investigation? Well, that's a whole 'nother front, now isn't it? :^) William ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 02:04:13 -0000 From: "cassandra benner" Subject: Re: IN> brief questions *hugs and kisses* thankyouthankyouthankyou. new chior here i come..... =snippage= > I don't know the word for epiphany, but the Hebrew for a revelatory >word direct from God is rhema (sp?). Or I could be a bit off and >that's Greek. Either way, I hope it helps. > >===== >Michael Walton, #9805-068 Cass "names?, just words. actions count" _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:08:04 -0500 From: Jonathan Walton Subject: IN> Re: Angelic Check Digit Tables? > Angelic Check Digit Tables? Y'know, for a minute there I was getting ready to ask where the Demonic one was, then I realised that Demons don't use Check Digit Tables. My next thought went like this: What the Hell?! What's Asmodeus there for, anyway?! Somebody kick him and tell him to do his job! Everyone should have Check Digit tables! Demons, Ethereals, Saints, Undead, Sorcerors, average joes, EVERYBODY!! More paperwork and book flipping for everyone!! BWAH hahahahahha!!! The world implodes as the gaming industry slides slowly towards its true Fate! Forget Fudge, forget the Open Gaming system, the future is tables, tables and more tables!!!! (Huge deep breath). Okay, that's out of my system now. Seriously though, thanks Beth (or whoever was involved). Much better than my standard little notes sheet. Any chance of ever seeing more useful little bits like this? Say, like an errataed version of the stuff on the back of the GM Screen (or will that not happen until it goes out of print)? I'll be making good use of this and the little campaign-planning sheet (which I just discovered on the website, when did that appear?). Later. Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: 14 Dec 2000 02:15:07 -0000 From: "-=|horsefly|=-" Subject: Re: New adventure seed (WAS: Re: Lilith Tangent (Re: IN> Weirdquestion)) >From: "Cthulhu" > Mr Burns. You're not paying attention.... :-) > > I don't know about Mary (other than the whole mother-og-some-god thing), > but Elizabeth _does_ mean word/vow-of-God. well, Mary means "bitter," wierdly enough, so 'bitter vow of God" fits beautifully, apart from making her "Mary El" as Prodigal wants. -=|horsefly|=- Happiness is a laser designator and a friend in the artillery battalion. --Clayton A. Oliver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:20:02 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: New adventure seed (WAS: Re: Lilith Tangent (Re: IN> Weirdquestion)) From: "-=|horsefly|=-" > >From: "Cthulhu" > > > > I don't know about Mary (other than the whole mother-og-some-god thing), > > but Elizabeth _does_ mean word/vow-of-God. > > well, Mary means "bitter," wierdly enough, so 'bitter vow of God" fits beautifully, My god, what was I channeling when I wrote that name down!?! I *love* it when I manage to come up with something this sick without meaning to... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:17:19 +1100 From: "Azrael/Demigouge" Subject: Re: IN> Some of the most powerful Ethereals... > > (Say, IS there a Demon of Punnery? No, worse yet... is > > an *ANGEL* of Punnery possible?) > > Same guy. He's a bit of a yo-yo. [...] A yo-yo....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I don't get it. Azrael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:26:58 -0600 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: New adventure seed (WAS: Re: Lilith Tangent (Re: IN> Weirdquestion)) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Prodigal" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 8:20 PM Subject: Re: New adventure seed (WAS: Re: Lilith Tangent (Re: IN> Weirdquestion)) > From: "-=|horsefly|=-" > > well, Mary means "bitter," wierdly enough, so 'bitter vow of God" fits > beautifully, > > My god, what was I channeling when I wrote that name down!?! You mean you *don't remember*? *evil grin* - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:22:50 +1100 From: "Azrael/Demigouge" Subject: Re: IN> brief questions > > >1- what is the hebrew or latin word for _epiphany_ I thought that ephiphany was latin...but I think alot of things, which may or may not (possibly the more likely) have any bearing upon reality whatsoever. Azrael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:27:04 -0800 From: "Kish" Subject: Re: IN> Some of the most powerful Ethereals... From: Azrael/Demigouge > > (Say, IS there a Demon of Punnery? No, worse yet... is > > an *ANGEL* of Punnery possible?) > > Same guy. He's a bit of a yo-yo. [...] <> From the Infernal Player's Guide. Down and Up and Down again. A demon who Redeems and then Falls. They don't generally get a chance to do it again. - -- Kish ICQ#: 28085879 AIM: Kish K M Kish_K@mindspring.replacewithcom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:32:37 -0600 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> brief questions - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Azrael/Demigouge" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 8:22 PM Subject: Re: IN> brief questions > > > > >1- what is the hebrew or latin word for _epiphany_ > > I thought that ephiphany was latin...but I think alot of things, which may > or may not (possibly the more likely) have any bearing upon reality > whatsoever. I did a Dictionary.com search and found a definition, plus etymology at the end... - ----- e·piph·a·ny (-pf-n) n., pl. e·piph·a·nies. Epiphany A Christian feast celebrating the manifestation of the divine nature of Jesus to the Gentiles as represented by the Magi. January 6, on which this feast is traditionally observed. A revelatory manifestation of a divine being. A sudden manifestation of the essence or meaning of something. A comprehension or perception of reality by means of a sudden intuitive realization: "I experienced an epiphany, a spiritual flash that would change the way I viewed myself" (Frank Maier). - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- [Middle English epiphanie, from Old French from Late Latin epiphania, from Greek epiphaneia, manifestation, from epiphainesthai, to appear: epi-, forth; see epi- + phainein, phan- to show; see bh-1 in Indo-European Roots.] - ----- - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:34:08 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: New adventure seed (WAS: Re: Lilith Tangent (Re: IN> Weirdquestion)) From: "Charles Glasgow" > > From: "Prodigal" > > > > My god, what was I channeling when I wrote that name down!?! > > You mean you *don't remember*? I'm oblivious to the whole process of writing it... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:35:17 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Some of the most powerful Ethereals... From: "Kish" > From: Azrael/Demigouge > > > > Same guy. He's a bit of a yo-yo. [...] > > < > I don't get it.>> > > From the Infernal Player's Guide. I believe he was referring to teh fact that "yo-yo" could itself be a pun, in reference to the angel/demon of same... ;;;) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:41:43 +1300 From: "Alex Liddell" Subject: Re: IN> brief questions >1- what is the hebrew or latin word for _epiphany_ Well epiphany is a greek word anyway. The Latin language adapted a great deal of Greek words and so it wouldn't be uncommon to hear some Greek phrases in Latin. I happen to know that there is a word for epiphany in Latin I just don't have it to hand. It will be traceable to an English word for "sudden thought" or "revelation" for sure! Alex _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:03:32 -0500 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: New adventure seed (WAS: Re: Lilith Tangent (Re: IN> Weirdquestion)) At 8:34 PM -0600 12/13/00, Prodigal wrote: >From: "Charles Glasgow" >> >> From: "Prodigal" >> > >> > My god, what was I channeling when I wrote that name down!?! >> >> You mean you *don't remember*? > >I'm oblivious to the whole process of writing it... That could be either a Kyriotate or a Shedite, really. Do you feel closer to Destiny or Fate these days? - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:09:01 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: New adventure seed (WAS: Re: Lilith Tangent (Re: IN>Weirdquestion)) From: "Whistling in the Dark" > At 8:34 PM -0600 12/13/00, Prodigal wrote: > >From: "Charles Glasgow" > >> > >> From: "Prodigal" > >> > > >> > My god, what was I channeling when I wrote that name down!?! > >> > >> You mean you *don't remember*? > > > >I'm oblivious to the whole process of writing it... > > That could be either a Kyriotate or a Shedite, really. Do you feel > closer to Destiny or Fate these days? Neither. Just sort of empty... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 03:11:51 From: "Daniel Gallagher" Subject: IN> Someone's done this right? It being the season and all I was wondering has anyone done a write up for Clarance, the angel from it's a wonderful life. Mercurian of Destany right? Daniel Archangel of Slackers "The world is... um, pass the doritos." _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 03:15:30 -0000 From: "cassandra benner" Subject: IN> Minor Choir of Yves??? Ok first i would like to say a huuuuuuge thankyou to all of you for the help you've given me. Here's my payment to you. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Long before the martyrdom death of Raphael, Yves asked his friend a favour. Raphael set about creating with the aid of Eli and Gabriel, and then the creations were complete. And Raphael did give whole-heartedly her children to Yves. And Yves did take them before the great and mighty Seraphim Council and showed unto them Truth and asked that they did spread to others what they seen. Truth and Revelations. An age did pass and Raphael did die. Her secret children did mourn and went to the Grigori to be with them and dwell apon the earth. Yves did grieve that his most loved ones no longer called apon neither his name nor the name of the lord and in a rage he did go to Litheroy and ask for new children to be made. Litheroy did ask why he could not do this him self and Yves did not answer, merely smiled, and said unto him “Lord Angel Litheroy, mine is not the ways of creation, mine is the ways of naming that which is created” And Litheroy saw this was the Truth and created children, giving them to Yves whole-heartedly. In time Yves did take them before the Seraphim Council and showed unto them the light and glory of the Truth there, and they were glad heartened by what they saw and knew that they must spread the glory and truth to the hearts of mankind. As they went to the world of men, Yves did kiss them apon the brow and whisper to them. “I name you Rhemael, the Epiphanies. Go forth and let mankind see the Truth in their hearts as the seraphs see it in their hearts.” Resonance. The seraphim know the truth. They see it every where. The Rhemaelim however also see the truth, but in a different way. They see it in mankind’s hearts and souls. However, mankind does not see the truth, so the Rhemaelim nudge them a little here and there so that humanity is better for it and closer to Destiny. Dissonance. The choir receives a note of dissonance equal to the check digit of any failed resonance roll. Manner & Appearance There are very few of the choir in heaven, almost all of them are on the corporeal or ethereal planes, they often have perfunctory vessels that change as often as there roles. Their celestial form is like the Mercurians, however they have golden wings and bright shining haloes. When they are on earth they have very unassuming low level roles, they never take roles that will drastically affect the neighbourhood. However, the most common type of role is that ‘spiritual advisor’ or help line assistant. Sometimes they take vessels of old frail people, not long for life, and move to an old people’s home to bring a little enlightenment and comfort to those who no longer believe, often they are the last ‘person’ to have seen one of the frailer old folks, who died gently after mumbling in their sleep and smiling before ceasing to live. Often they travel about, moving from one town to another searching for one person whose life they can bring a little '‘truth'’ to. They open up humankind’s hearts and souls to the light of divinity and show them hope and compassion, hoping that this will affect the person and do good things with their lives from that point onwards. However, if they fail the resonance roll, not only do they get dissonance, but the person becomes a little more selfish and self centred for the next week, and they are immune to the effects of any further resonance check for the duration of that period. Resonance Check Digit Table 1- Knows when the person last prayed and to whom. 2- Knows how strong that person’s faith is and whether they really believe in what they are preying to. 3- Knows what would make the person ‘be a better person’ for the next week. 4- Knows what life changing events have happened in the persons past. 5- Knows what would make the person ‘be a better person’ for the next year 6- Knows what would make a person ‘be a better person’ for the rest of their lives and how to accomplish all of the lesser check digit results. - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Thankyou to all of you and nick who's scotch i'm drinking and pc im using. Please let me know what you think. Other than my introduction thingy this is the secound thing i've ever written for IN. Cassie "Drunk? Nooooo, just having a slight problem with chemical imbalance is all mr police man sir" _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #1970 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2000 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.