From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Mon Dec 18 22:54:04 2000 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA23490 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 22:54:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id WAA30485 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 22:53:31 -0600 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 22:53:31 -0600 Message-Id: <200012190453.WAA30485@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1979 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Monday, December 18 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1979 In this digest: IN> Saminga in Love. Re: IN> Saminga in Love. Re: IN> re> Dark Bright... IN> [Saminga in love] Tips on household fun! Re: IN> re> Dark Bright... IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #1978 IN> Choirs/Bands IN> [Saminga in Love] The Demon of RPGs Re: IN> Saminga in love quotes of villany Re: IN> [Saminga in Love] The Demon of RPGs IN> IN: The Creation of Saints... IN> Applied Psychology IN> Answered Prayers... IN> Hey, at least I avoided puns. Re: IN> Yes, I'm afraid so. Re: IN> Answered Prayers... Re: IN> Saminga in Love. Re: IN> Choirs/Bands Re: IN> Saminga in love quotes of villany Re: IN> New Minor Band RE: IN> Saminga in love quotes of villany ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:11:37 -0500 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Saminga in Love. > Just wondering when and how did the "Saminga in Love" thing start? Basically it was to counter the Laurence/Blandine shippers group. Basically alot of people wanted to see Laurence and Blandine hook up (sword swinging night, maiden in tower etc). However I noted no one exactly in Hell was hooking up so I suggested that Saminga should hook up with someone. Laughing aside it became a method to express our love of Saminga and all his wackiness as we debated the various perfect loves for the Grim Reaper of Hell...including Beleth, Anita Blake, Novalis (Reapers and flowers! Come on!), and Isis (come on..Osiris is dead, you need to lighten up), Baal, and Lilith (ick!) A Saminga in Love post is basically anything that posts your love of Saminga. Anyone want to join the cause? - -Charles Phipps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:16:31 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Saminga in Love. From: "Charles Phipps" > > Anyone want to join the cause? I would have to vote for Wednesday Addams... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:34:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Rhodri James Subject: Re: IN> re> Dark Bright... In article , Charles Glasgow wrote: > >Simon Illyan as Yves > Simon Illyan is Dominic, *exactly*. Right down to the *millimeter*. Nonononono. Alys Vorpatril is Dominique. - -- Rhodri James *-* Wildebeeste herder to the masses If you don't know who I work for, you can't misattribute my words to them ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:30:50 -0500 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> [Saminga in love] Tips on household fun! It's come to my attention people wonder how I keep my home fine... *sigh* MArtha Stewart my beutiful household goddess, when oh when shall you accept my offer to become a mummy.... To my child! Errr....excuse me basically I have a number of useful household tips for cleaning up messy floors. 1. When confronted with hordes of dead bodies in your kitchen....ZOMBI EM! 2. When confronted with bloodstains....make the entire floor the shade! hehehe it's noticible but in a good way! 3. If you have too many bodies in a kitchen...hehehe sorry I can't do this joke...theres never too many bodies.... 4. Remember when a floor is slick from blood, some bone dust will quickly make a nice crunching sound for walking and allow for easy body removal as to best not tip off your next victem 5. For party favors a hung Malakim is a great way to deaden up an engaugement, hanging does little damage and they can survive a lot of punsihment. If you have vampires, shedim, and cannibal zombies at your party (and who doesn't?) breaking them open fixes appetizer problems too! 6. Black napkins, GI Joe or wedding cake figures, a toothpick and a piece of carrot makes a great Grim Reaper topping for foods! 7. Oh about tip no. 4 I almost forgot that the smell is a dead giveaway even if you keep your butchering (hehe) to the kitchen. Two words: Pine sol. 8. If you don't know the rules to a game always stick with what the title tells you to do! Twister for instance is a great way to make your date really funny looking! 9. Tired of Phone salesmen? With a little moderation and the right equipment you can track them down to their houses and kill them! It's not a cure to the problem but it sure is making a problem a benifit! 10. Door to door evangelists i know are just doing their jobs but sometimes it's just hard to tell them your satisfied with your faith. Nailing a head to your door is a great solution to say "you are faithful" if no heads are around or you have other plans for your corpses (a common problem without a really high quality cythe) a foot or hand will do in a pinch! 11. When greeting a rival for your affections, serving them family members is a sure way to get them to see you in a new light! 12. Remember Vlad Tepes etiquette; nail hats to heads if they arn't removed, it's just impolite otherwise 13. Skin care is always aided by blood but you knew that, making sure the tub doesn't cake up just requires baking soda which adds a fuzzy feeling to your bath. 14. Remember humans are white meat not dark meat, don't get mislead by stereotyping 15. I cannot stress this enough, proof your coffins against water damage. - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:37:29 -0600 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> re> Dark Bright... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhodri James" To: Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 6:34 PM Subject: Re: IN> re> Dark Bright... > In article , > Charles Glasgow wrote: > > >Simon Illyan as Yves > > > Simon Illyan is Dominic, *exactly*. Right down to the *millimeter*. > > Nonononono. Alys Vorpatril is Dominique. Whose job is it to keep an eye on everyone and everything in Barrayar? To watch for signs of disloyalty or treason? To run Internal Affairs? To be eternally paranoid yet eternally loyal? Who was it who, after successfully uncovering the evidence that his most talented yet most erratic subordinate had sworn a false statement and had just broken him from the service, said with heartfelt sincerity "God save me from another such victory?" As for who Alys is -- hmmm. Her closest analogue in Heaven would be Curtis, Malakite Master Of The Armies Of God and Angel of Etiquette - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:50:06 -0500 From: Jonathan Walton Subject: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #1978 > Some sources that I have read have > said that Baalzebub is a degoratory name that Jews gave to Baal (turning > "Lord" into "Lord of the Dung"). However, other sources that I have read > have said that Baalzebub was a pagan god of a different faith, the Lord of > the Flies. Okay, the modern demonic name "Beelzebub" (used by Milton and other biggies) comes from Baal-zebub, "Lord of the Flies" the god of Ekron, not to be confused with the Caanite god, Baal-zebul, "Lord of the High Place." It was our buddy Baal-zebul who gets talked about in the OT all the time as "Baal", pisses off the Israelites, and get his priests slaughtered by Elijah (who later becomes the angel Sandalphon, coincidentally). At least, that's what me and my sources say. Hope that helps. Later. Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 21:05:22 -0500 From: Jonathan Walton Subject: IN> Choirs/Bands > Demons are a bit more complicated. I have divided demons into the Fallen > (former angels, the balseraphim, balcherubim, or whatever you wnat to call > them), the Lilim (creating by Lilith mating with angels, giants, gods, > etc.), and the Imp-Born (created in Hell from imps). Oh, and the cambions, > half-human mongrels. This is a hierachy of power by the way. Okay, the one place where In Nomine REALLY departs from real source material on angels and demons is the whole idea of choirs and bands as the equivilant of "races" or "character classes" for Celestials. I'm not arguing against this idea, because I think it really works in a game context, I'm just saying that it's not representative of the pictures we get of the real Celestial heirarchy. What's the real different between Seraphim and Cherubim in religious lore? Not much, really. Seraphim have more wings and Cherubs have more eyes (or vice-versa, depending on who's description you use), but that doesn't really mean much. It seems that the whole idea of Choirs of angels is mainly just there to explain the heirarchy that exists in Heaven, which is partially one of power, but mostly one of honor, based on a specific angel's relationship with God. The whole idea of the demonic equivilent of Choirs is completely made up, am I right? I haven't been able to find a description of anything like that anywhere. It seems that in most religious thought, the heirarchy of Hell is purely one of power, with the most powerful demon, Satan/Lucifer, at the top and with it descending in some kind of scale below him. In fact, in the whole process of falling, the demons seem to lose a good portion of their individuality and become, simply, demons. What do you guys think of the idea of basing a non-canon campaign on something closer to this version of Celestials? How would it be better and how would it be worse? Just a few thoughts. Later. Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 21:33:44 -0500 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> [Saminga in Love] The Demon of RPGs (Special thanks to the tether writer not too long ago!) Goobloth ("Gary") Calabim of Death Captain of the Infernal Legion The Demon of RPGs Cor-2 Str-4 Agi-4 Eth-4 Int-7 Pre-9 Cel-4 Will-8 Per 8 Vessel: Human Male in his mid thirties 5/ (-1 Charisma) Role: Local Game shop Owner 3/ Skills: Acting 1/, Computer Operation 3/, Dungeon Design 3/, Economics 2/, Gambling (Cards and Dice) 3/, RPG Rules 6/, Storytelling 5/ Songs: Song of Charm (Ethereal 2/), Song of Dreams (Cor 3/, Eth 4/, Cel 4/), Song of Entropy (Eth 3/), Song of Light (Eth 4/) Attunements: Calabim of Death, Captain of the Infernal Legion, Rotting Curse, Zombi Discord: Obese 3/ Word Forces: 4 Rites: * Get someone mindlessly addicted to buying products of no apparent value save the statement "You need to have this supplement" * Run a LARP where people get killed (+2 essence) Goobloth has been in Saminga's service for a long time, he's not exactly sure how long he's been in the service of the caped and cowled Great Evil but he's fairly sure he stopped being in the service of his previous Superior when he got eaten by some obnoxious gremlin. Goobloth in his previous incarnation was charged with getting people hooked on gambling, chess, and acting plays so they didn't do anything really important with their time but unfortunately that kind of work didn't really impress Asmodeus who he was really hopeing to join but he heard from a friend of a friend of a friend if he added killing people to his "bit" he'd get in good with his new Prince so he did and...well didn't really get much acomplished truth be told. A few deaths here and there so Saminga was satisfied but nothing to write the prince home about. However about the 1970s Goobloth was hanging around colleges and trying to get people to choke on board game pieces when he heard that one of the guys he used to play Board games with was getting published his game about killing people. He switched over to the game about orcs or whatever he called them (he didn't read much despite being perpetually in college) and started causing accidental deaths...finding surprisingly he had a knack for RPGing using his old "skills" and it was a great excuse to pig out and mess people up in the head. Goobloth was especially pleased to find out he had to leave town several times because his activities had caught the attention of angels. Eventually (he likes to believe he was at fault) the board game recieved the title as "occult" and Goobloth felt confident enough to summon his prince and ask him to petition for a word. Saminga wasn't exactly impressed truth be told I mean...no offense this wasn't exactly like Air Disasters or Clocktower shootings, he noted that it was mostly hysteria WHICH WAS FINE but he wanted some serious body counts to go along with it. Goobloth true to form decided to put off the whole mass slaughter at a convention he had planned and managed to convince his prince that it was actually a gigantic vehicle to introduce mortals to Death sorcery and mass murder by getting them to act it out. Saminga impressed and reading some of the choicer literature agreed to sponsor Goobloth for the word of RPGs and Lucifer chuckling at all the gamers suddenly branded satanists eagerly granted it. Goobloth has switched over really from old fashioned Gary work since then and started working on the more "adult" stuff ever since they dumped the assaisin class (which he takes credit for) though he may start looking over it again ironically since Hasbro took it over. He sells mostly to a clientale of wannabe Goths and wannabe mentally ill his selection of underground RPGs and runs every day really his hack and slash ultra dark anti-hero adventures...surprisingly finding to his enjoyment the online community is equally receptable to his contant trolling, e-mailing, and certain video game server PKing. In order not to jeopardize his clinetale of hopefully soon to be serial killers Goobloth makes an effort to run LARPs far away when he does his killings...and personally hopes to make his word much more powerful than it is. Ahhh the glory days of making everyone persecuted who had a supplement.... - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 21:50:43 -0500 (EST) From: Emily Dresner-Thornber Subject: Re: IN> Saminga in love quotes of villany > 4. I wanna drive the Zamboni...over your skull! (surprisingly terrifying but > the confused looks on their faces) Piece of trivia: John Deere now makes a zamboni attachment for their riding lawnmowers. Now any enterprising demon with a credit card and a way to get himself to a local Sears can become a zamboni driver. Although he may have to wait 4-6 weeks for delivery. But I think Zambonis are firmly in the realm of the Kobalites. First of all, it's a really funny word to say. (Zamboni. Zamboni. ZAMBONI. Now I'm sitting here saying it. ZAMBONI!) Second, it's extremely difficult to say "My job is to drive the zamboni" with a straight face. And finally, Zambonis only go at a top speed of 9 MPH. It would be a crushing, but a very very slow crushing indeed, and the guy to be crushed would have to stand there and wait for it. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emily K. Dresner-Thornber -- http://www.nodonut.com/zenith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 21:49:48 -0400 From: Douglas Muir Subject: Re: IN> [Saminga in Love] The Demon of RPGs >(Special thanks to the tether writer not too long ago!) You're welcome. "Gary", you say. Hmm. - -- I don't suppose PKing in online games, or playing Myth obsessively, do much to serve Saminga's word? "But, Sire! This way a human can experience Death again and again!" ...No. Doug M. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 21:57:07 -0500 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: IN> IN: The Creation of Saints... Hi, I had the idea of creating another version of Santa Claus, but built as a Saint, rather then an ethereal. Problem is, I only own the IN corebook and I can't find rules on making Saints in it. I assume they're built somewhere between Soldiers and Angels, but I do have a few specific questions: 1: How many Forces can a Saint have? 2: Can Saints be Word-Bound? 3: Can Saints have Angelic Attunements? Hmm... That's about it. My basic concept started with a Soldier of God, old Saint Nicholas, known for giving presents to the poor on Christmas. After his death and ascension to Heaven, Nicholas went to Heaven and decided to keep helping out Humanity from Heaven. Only somehow, he started getting essence not only from his own image as a Saint, but from other images of gift-giving characters like himself, feeding him further. I'm still working out the details in my mind, but I figured Nicholas, wondering what to do with himself in Heaven's cause, would eventually hover to Christopher's service of helping poor children on Christmas eve, and in the process drain more essence into himself, from the various Ethereal figures like Kris Kringle and the like. Of course, he didn't go out and kill the Ethereals or anything... With Blandine's blessing, he went out into the marches, and she'd somehow bind the Forces of those Ethereal within him, letting them live on as a part of him. That, as well as his hiring of Elven crafstmen to build toys for him would have earned Blandine's favor, and maybe a few attunements. Of course, in more recent years, Nicholas, now more famous as Santa Claus, has not really done that infamous "Night Trip around the World" in a while, only going to troubled spots in Christmas Time to spread Holiday Hope and Love, and build up faith in human kindness in such seasons, which would also earn him points with Khalid, dispite religious differences. Of course, these days Santa would be fighting hard and fast against Nybbas, Haagenti and Mammon, all corruptors of his image and vision of Christmas. Any comments? - -Exit the LoneWolf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 03:08:25 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: IN> Applied Psychology If you're giving a character Psychology, but you don't want the science but the skill as it is applied to interpersonal relations (such as the Role of a bouncer and sometime bartender), would it then be governed by Perception instead of Intelligence? Janet Anderson (doing an improved version of my first and favorite character) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 22:33:22 -0400 From: Douglas Muir Subject: IN> Answered Prayers... The farmer who prayed for rain... and had his crop wiped out by a freak thunderstorm. The priest who prayed for a little more money for the church fund... and got the exact amount he needed... from the insurance when his sister was killed by a drunk driver. The woman prayed that her cat Waffles would get over its terrible, terrible illness... and he did! And she got down on her knees and thanked God... until a little bit later, when her baby was born with irreversible brain damage from cat-borne toxidoplasmosis. They don't know it, but they have something in common. Rossie, the Demon of Answered Prayers Impudite Captain of Repartee 4 Corporeal Strength 5 Agility 11 5 Ethereal Intel 12 Precision 8 5 Celestial Perception 9 Will 11 Role (itinerant gospel singer) - 2 Status - 2 Vessel - 4, white human male Vessel - 4, black human male (Charisma +1, both vessels) Songs -- lots; some of the notable ones include Attraction: Ethereal - 3 Celestial - 2 Charm Celestial - 5 Dreams Corporeal -3 Celestial - 2 Form Corporeal - 2 Celestial - 3 Healing Corporeal - 6 Motion Celestial - 5 Possession (5) Projection Corporeal - 3 Ethereal - 2 Shields Corporeal - 3 Celestial - 5 Sleep Ethereal - 3 Celestial - 1 Solace Corporeal - 1 Ethereal - 4 Celestial - 2 Storms Corporeal - 6 Ethereal - 1 Celestial - 2 Symphony Corporeal - 3 Tongues Corporeal - 2 Attunements -- Impudite of Dark Humor, Knight of Derision, Captain of Repartee, Rant of Scorn, Demon of Answered Prayers Demon of Answered Prayers (1): The demon gets a perception roll to hear any praye -- in any language, and whether uttered out loud or silent -- within yards equal to his total Forces. Except for the need to roll Perception, this is very similar to Khalid's Angel of Prayer attunement (S3, p. 102), and it, too, can be given as a Servitor attunement. Demon of Answered Prayers (2): Rossie can touch a human, spend one Essence, and engage in a contest of Wills. If the human wins, he's immune to this attunement for (days x CD). If Rossie wins, the human will feel an overwhelming urge to pray, with the importance of the prayer depending on the CD. Depending on circumstances, the human may fall to his knees, mutter a short prayer under his breath, or simply pray silently and inwardly. Humans who /never/ pray are immune to this attunement, but Rossie says there are very, very few such. Special rites: Make someone (human or angel) very, very sorry for having prayed for something; seriously damage a human's faith in God by answering a prayer; answer an angel's prayer in a way that makes the angel take dissonance (it's rare, but +3 Essence when it happens). Rossie has all of Kobal's rites plus Saminga's "kill ten humans" rite. He has two servitors under him -- a nine-force Balseraph and a ten-force Shedite. His Servitors work on their own, but report to him regularly, and will come quickly if needed to help and defend him. Kobal occasionally gives him human Soldiers to work with. If you need a demonic character in your campagn who's an absolute and utter bastard, consider Rossie. The Impudite of Answered Prayers is on the fast track. He's only held his Word for about 50 years now, but in that time he's managed to cause a _lot_ of human misery. And he's managed to make Kobal smile... twice. If nothing gets in his way, he'll be a Baron any day now Rossie isn't the first demon to hold this Word. Two got killed by Khalid (who just hates this Word, hates hates hates it), one by Servitors of Purity, and one became Discordant and had to be used as a... straight man. But so far, Rossie is doing much better than any of his predecessors. Rossie is smart. _Really_ smart. He always has a backup plan, and he always thinks ahead. He's cocky, but not too cocky -- if he needs help, he won't hesitate to ask for it, and if angels get involved, he'll run. He has come up with some marvellous schemes (you've seen some of them in the newspaper), but no scheme is worth Trauma as far as he's concerned. He isn't a coward, but he's very careful. His role as an itinerant gospel singer, along with his attunement, give him access to a bottomless well of human prayers. Rossie likes to pick and choose among them, looking for prayers that can be answered in the most ironically devastating fashion. And, of course, it also lets Rossie work his Songs into his gospel singing now and then. This is the sort of thing that a Kobalite finds more or less irresistible. (Note that Rossie's role can take him all over the world as a "singing missionary". He can pop up anywhere, but he has spent long amounts of time in Eastern Europe and Africa. He's been talking lately about taking a vacation in Afghanistan; he'd have to get a new Role, but it might be worth it...) Unlike most Impudites, Rossie really doesn't like humans much. We're raw material to him, clay for building Word-sculptures of ironic pain and horror. When he bothers to think about it, he feels an almost Habbalite contempt for humanity -- God would never listen to these pathetic creatures. In Rossie's mind, his monstrous responses to our prayers are exactly what we deserve for having the presumption to petition the Almighty. And by opening our eyes to God's cruelty and carelessness, he's really doing us a favor; we really ought to be thanking him... As an Impudite of Dark Humor, Rossie takes no Dissonance for killing humans in the course of a joke. He doesn't like to kill the humans who are praying -- it's more fun (and a point of Essence) to make them miserable and destroy their faith in God. Killing incidental bystanders, though, is just fine. Rossie is a master of using Songs in unusual and cunning ways. As a high-Will Impudite he never lacks Essence for long, so he's willing to burn whatever it takes to do the job. If he's going to generate more than a couple of points of disturbance, he'll try to get alone with his victims and then sing Celestial Shields before doing anything else. Rossie uses his Songs in all sorts of ways, but here are some that he particularly enjoys. Attraction -- make one human fall hard for another. Rossie _likes_ it when hmans pray for other humans to notice them; it's so easy to arrange the most marvellous disasters. "So, Monica, you're praying that Bill will notice you. I think we can arrange that." Dreams -- Unusually for a Servitor of Dark Humor, Rossie likes wandering around in dreamscapes; humans often pray in dreams, you see, and they also tend to reveal their innermost fears and desires. When Rossie has nothing better to do, he'll take a stroll through the head of an interesting human. Form -- Sometimes it's handy to be able to pretend to be someone else, isn't it? And it can lead to the _funniest_ situations... Rossie will also use Corporeal Form if there's the slightest hint of danger (with 40 Body hits, he's willing to place his Vessel in precarious situations as long as no angels are involved). Healing -- At level 6, Rossie can do everything with this short of curing terminal cancer. And people pray about health problems all the time, don't they. Making someone healthy in order to destroy their life is one of the more amusing things Rossie can think of. Motion -- For running away. Period. Possession -- When all else fails, just take them over. Note that Rossie can kill his hosts if it's in the course of a gag. "So, you're praying that your folks won't come home until you have time to clean up the party. I think we can arragne that." Sleep -- Sometimes you want to shut the monkeys down so you can rummage in their dreamscapes. And sometimes it's handy to have a guard nod off, so that the eager young thief who's been praying for a chance can get one... Solace -- These may be his favorite Songs; he uses them, along with Healing and Celestial Sleep, to bring peace to the suffering and comfort to the afflicted... heh. Storms -- People are always praying about the weather, too. Farmers who pray for rain are a perennial favorite. Oh, and the kid who prays for snow because he hasn't done his homework? Rossie likes answering that one... and then possessing one of the kid's parents and going for a drive. There's nothing like putting Mom into quadriplegia for life to give a kid the right ideas about God. Symphony -- Kobal gave Rossie this rare song as mark of his favor. He uses it to ask short, simple questions about the best ways to destroy a particular human's life. Astute readers will have noticed that while Rossie has an impressive array of Songs, almost none of them are useful in combat. Rossie's attitude to combat is very simple: he avoids it. If attacked, he'll simply use Celestial Motion to "bamf" away at once. Rossie is suitable as a supervisor for demonic PCs, or as a cunning and powerful recurring opponent for angels. He's widely known as a rising star in Kobal's hierarchy. In a pinch, Rossie will be able to call on any equal or lower ranking demon of Dark Humor to help him, and will have a fair chance of getting help from servitors of allied or associated Princes. He also stands high in Saminga's favor. The Prince of Death granted him a rite after one of his pranks caused a small war to break out in Africa, and has twice asked him to join Death's service. Rossie's not interested -- Saminga would force him to interpret his Word much more narrowly than he'd like -- but he won't hesitate to use this connection to strongarm Death-servants into helping him. And Rossie needs help sometimes, because he also has some very heavy enemies. Laurence hates him, and Khalid hates him _a lot_. Rashid, the Angel of Prayer, correctly sees Rossie's Word as a direct assault on his own (even his name is a parody of Rashid's), and at least one Malakite of Faith/Servitor of Prayer has sworn an oath not to rest until Rossie is soul-killed. Disrupting Rossie's plans is certain to please both Khalid and Laurence, and sending him into Trauma or killing him would make them very happy indeed. Blandine particularly dislikes Rossie too, as his habit of trolling dreamscapes for prayers and fears is deeply offensive to her. Beleth is hostile to Rossie, too. She's aware of his activities in the Marches, and she doesn't like trespassers in "her" realm, particularly ones who serve Dark Humor. So far he's managed to elude her, but if he keeps going into dreamscapes sooner or later he's going to run into trouble. Rossie's Word is one of the rare ones that comes with a Dissonance condition. If Rossie answers a human's prayer, and the human not only isn't rendered miserable, but is actually _grateful_... and has her faith in God affirmed or strengthened as a result... then he takes Dissonance. "I prayed for rain, and the crop got washed out; I'm flat broke. Well, you know, I never really liked farming. I think this is God's way of telling me to follow my childhood dream and become a pilot while I'm still young enough to start over. Thank you, God!" "Aarrgh!" Thoughts? Doug M. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:39:18 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Hey, at least I avoided puns. I got this idea last night watching George Carlin. Foul-mouthed, atheistic, completely intolerant of just about everything I personally find important in human society... and he had me rolling on the ground, just like he did in the old days. Guess who I see when I think of Kobal? :) Hope y'all like. Moe Neumann Calabite Knight of Derision Corporeal Forces: 3 Strength: 6 Agility: 6 Ethereal Forces: 4 Intelligence: 8 Precision: 8 Celestial Forces: 5 Will: 12 Perception: 8 Vessel: human male/2, Charisma +1 Skills: Chemistry/3, Computer Programming/2, Dodge/3, Driving/2, Electronics/3, Emote/4, Fighting/5, Knowledge (Physics/2, Research techniques/2), Large Weapon/3 (bat), Ranged Weapon/3 (shotgun), Savoir-Faire/1 Songs: Laughter (Celestial/4), Lightning (Corporeal/1, Ethereal/1, Celestial/6), Machines (Corporeal/1, Ethereal/1), Motion (Ethereal/2), Shields (Corporeal/3, Ethereal/1, Celestial/1), Tongues (Ethereal/2) Discord: Addiction/3 (cigarettes) Attunements: Calabite of Dark Humor, Prank, Rant of Scorn, Knight of Derision Neumann started out life as a happy-shiny insipid Ofanite of Lightning, but he didn’t last long. Jean was just too worked up about stuff, you know? 'Don’t break this.' 'Don't touch that.' 'Don't try to take a motorcycle along with you when you're using your Attunement.' What an absolute tight-ass that one was. Really, getting booted out was all right by him. Falling was a pain, but Neumann figured that he'd probably be happier Downstairs anyway. And, wouldn't you know it, Vapula was even worse? Didn't want any scruffy Freak interfering with his precious experiments, oh no. Not that the Prince has anything like an actual clue about what he's doing, of course: Jean might have been an absolutely humorless bastard, but at least he could run an experiment. Vapula's just throwing together random crap in the hopes that something Goes Boom. This wasn't turning out to be nearly as much fun as it looked for the new demon. Luckily for him, Kobal was taking resumes. Yeah, now _this_ is the life for a Calabite: just as much chance for random acts of destruction, but if you pick your targets right and use those Ethereal Forces, you can get away clean. Kobal doesn't seem to care much what you do, or who you target, as long as it's funny. Neumann can handle funny. He had to save it all up while trapped working for that stuffed shirt upstairs. Neumann's preferred targets are the self-righteous and anybody who talks without thinking. His favorite trick in the whole wide world is to wait for some moron to say the immortal words, "And may God strike me down dead if..." - and oblige him with a fast Song of Lightning. That's rich stuff there. It's gotten him in trouble with Servitors of Fate and Factions (all things being equal, Neumann would rather whack somebody unpleasant than, say, a nun. You never know when you're going to need somebody dumb enough to help the injured), but so what? They ought to find smarter mouthpieces, or at least funnier ones. Personally, Neumann's an odd one for a Calabite: he's bright, subtle and likes to save his ire for what he considers worthy targets. It's not so much that he's evil (although some of his victims would disagree with him): Neumann's favorite targets usually aren't well liked by angels or other humans anyway. It's just that he's got no sense of restraint in chastising them. After all, why let them live? It's not like they're capable of learning better. To put it another way, most people can distinguish between laughing at the _thought_ of somebody dying in an appropriately macabre manner and laughing at the _sight_ of it: Neumann sees no reason why he can't do both. Still, a sufficiently tolerant (or casually violent) group of angels would actually find this guy tolerable. After all, he really does have a _wicked_ sense of humor. ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/25/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 22:48:45 -0500 From: "Aaron Medwin" Subject: Re: IN> Yes, I'm afraid so. From: "Michael Walton" > --- Maurice Lane wrote: > > If I ever make it to whatever that big gaming con is > > that everyone goes to, I'll bring it along so you can > > look at it. > > I believe you're refering to GenCon. Overrated, IMHO, but good to > experience at least once. There was no IN when I went, though. I make it a point to go to GenCon every year(well, the past two and all the ones in the future), and both years so far, I've been disappointed at the lack of IN present - while I pushed the books on my friends, official SJG support has been, well... uh... what support? You can run your own events, though. Might be a nice idea to have a few list members(you guys consistantly amaze me, really, all of you... I just wish I had your collective genius... oh, the things there would be!) run a game or three at the con. I'd certainly go for it, and it'd be neat to attach faces to all the names I see on the list. > Michael Walton, #9805-068 - -Aaron Medwin returning to fanboylurk-mode ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 21:43:54 -0600 From: "Erich S. Arendall" Subject: Re: IN> Answered Prayers... > Rossie, the Demon of Answered Prayers > Impudite Captain of Repartee Evil. Most evil. Thank you Douglas. This one goes in the "keeper" folder.