From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Fri Dec 29 22:52:23 2000 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA28086 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 22:52:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id WAA15987 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 22:52:33 -0600 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 22:52:33 -0600 Message-Id: <200012300452.WAA15987@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1997 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Friday, December 29 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1997 In this digest: IN> The Ancient Malakim topic question.... Re: IN> Clever Game Stunts (Re: GURPS In-Nomine) Re: IN> ?DESTRUCTION? Re: IN> ?DESTRUCTION? Re: IN> ?DESTRUCTION? Re: IN> ?DESTRUCTION? Re: IN> That weird pen-artifact... IN> If I could talk to the Animals... well, I'd probably have to apologize a lot. Re: IN> GURPS In-Nomine Re: Make the hurting stop! (WAS: Re: IN> Blandine Gets Proactive) Re: Make the hurting stop! (WAS: Re: IN> Blandine Gets Proactive) Re: IN> Arisia Re: IN> Arisia IN> Ulp. Re: IN> That weird pen-artifact... Re: IN> The Angel of Second Chances IN> Does anybody have spare space in their imagination? Re: IN> GURPS In-Nomine Re: IN> Does anybody have spare space in their imagination? Re: IN> If I could talk to the Animals... well, I'd probably have to apologize a lot. Re: IN> Does anybody have spare space in their imagination? Re: IN> If I could talk to the Animals... well, I'd probably have to apologize a lot. Re: IN> Does anybody have spare space in their imagination? IN> A bit of In Nomine inspired nonsense, enjoy! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 20:36:47 -0500 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: IN> The Ancient Malakim topic question.... Hi all! I'm writing an article (for what eventual result, I'm not yet sure) on the Ancient Malakim/former other choirs topic we bandied about her not *too* long ago. Who wrote up the former Mercurian? Thanks! - -- Eric A. Burns - in-sabre@annotations.com - http://www.annotations.com "Grown-ups never understand anything for themselves, and it is tiresome for children to be always and forever explaining things to them." - --Antonie de Saint-Exupery, "The Little Prince" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 01:38:13 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: Re: IN> Clever Game Stunts (Re: GURPS In-Nomine) >Secundus: Upon dealing with an annoying demon with a cop vessel, who was >about to put out an APB on us, the Kyriotate took over her radio just as >she was describing our van. Instead, "she" described a station-wagon, >which we'd run... across (only sideswiped, really!) the other night, >driven by a Balseraph (we didn't know that) who was babysitting (we >didn't know that either) a bunch of Impudites (ditto) with shotguns (THAT >we knew...). Kyriotate of Jean attunement; evil, evil, evil. LOL!! I just have to say, Beth, this paragraph and the ideas therein have made my night. Thank you. ROTFWL :) - -Perry perrylloyd@hotmail.com pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu http://www.geocities.com/llloyd.geo "And that's the hardest thing for a human being to do - be wrong. Do you know that people would rather die than be wrong?" - --from A Matter For Men by David Gerrold _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 02:05:53 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: Re: IN> ?DESTRUCTION? causing a disturbance that >EVERY celestial could perceive in a radius of at least 14 Earths (at >least 5000 people died plus houses and cars destroyed..)! >If my character summoned Belial successfully, would he: >a) Kill the party for having caused so much disturbance. >b)Kill just his servitor because of the huge disturbance. >c)Help the party with subtlety (sendind them to the marches or to a safe >place in hell). >d)Get excited for the huge explosion and begin to fight the angels and >other enemies that happen to appear by the site of the explosion. >e)Do another thing. (please, say what..) > >Maybe this will seem ridiculously stupid and meaningless to you, but it >is a real doubt.... So, please answer it. > >Grateful for your time and work. > >Mauro. Well, Mauro. It depends how what your version of Belial is like. The Belial in my game is psycho crazy and /very/ out of touch with reality. Most likely he would both reward and punish every single member of the group. Something like: "I give you this Corporeal Artifact Flamethrower, I give you this Beret of Non-detection, I give you, this worm. Careful, don't eat it. I give you a mystical dagger of licking flames, anything the edge touches will immediately catch fire, I give you a level one distinction, since you actually had the balls to set off the device. However, you hear that HUGE disturbance? That, boys, is the sound of a big, big, big mistake and soon every Malakite looking to make a name for himself is going to be after your asses. So, hereby give you all new vessels!!" At which point all of the characters now have vessels identical to the members of KISS (or another outdated but famous rock group whose image would be very out of place today or stands out in some way as bizarre, such as the Beach Boys or the crew of Star Trek: Next Gen). But, that's just me. I'm wacky that way. I was also considering an attempt to "disguise" the PCs by swapping and rearranging their Forces between one another. But, that gets messy in terms of memories associated with Ethereal Forces. OTOH, it might just be easier to give them all "high-level desk jobs" in Hell. Personally, I believe that Saminga would show up automatically, give one of the characters a big kiss and grant him a distinction and grant the group and undead servant through whom the GM could guide them, harrass them, and join in the fun, so to speak. As for the huge disturbance, I doubt Saminga gives a crap. Why would Belial? I dunno, cause it's in his Dissonance condition not to have a plan backfire on you and it sounds like this certainly did. (Maybe just give the Fire Demon 2 points of Dissonance and everyone else 1 point of Dissonance because the huge fires will undoubtedly aid some little plant to grow better because of all added nutrients in the soil thanks to the ashes from the fires - that'll teach 'em. Dissonance all 'round!) - -Perry, Kyriotate of Flowers serving Creation perrylloyd@hotmail.com pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu http://www.geocities.com/llloyd.geo "And that's the hardest thing for a human being to do - be wrong. Do you know that people would rather die than be wrong?" - --from A Matter For Men by David Gerrold _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 02:05:57 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: Re: IN> ?DESTRUCTION? causing a disturbance that >EVERY celestial could perceive in a radius of at least 14 Earths (at >least 5000 people died plus houses and cars destroyed..)! >If my character summoned Belial successfully, would he: >a) Kill the party for having caused so much disturbance. >b)Kill just his servitor because of the huge disturbance. >c)Help the party with subtlety (sendind them to the marches or to a safe >place in hell). >d)Get excited for the huge explosion and begin to fight the angels and >other enemies that happen to appear by the site of the explosion. >e)Do another thing. (please, say what..) > >Maybe this will seem ridiculously stupid and meaningless to you, but it >is a real doubt.... So, please answer it. > >Grateful for your time and work. > >Mauro. Well, Mauro. It depends how what your version of Belial is like. The Belial in my game is psycho crazy and /very/ out of touch with reality. Most likely he would both reward and punish every single member of the group. Something like: "I give you this Corporeal Artifact Flamethrower, I give you this Beret of Non-detection, I give you, this worm. Careful, don't eat it. I give you a mystical dagger of licking flames, anything the edge touches will immediately catch fire, I give you a level one distinction, since you actually had the balls to set off the device. However, you hear that HUGE disturbance? That, boys, is the sound of a big, big, big mistake and soon every Malakite looking to make a name for himself is going to be after your asses. So, hereby give you all new vessels!!" At which point all of the characters now have vessels identical to the members of KISS (or another outdated but famous rock group whose image would be very out of place today or stands out in some way as bizarre, such as the Beach Boys or the crew of Star Trek: Next Gen). But, that's just me. I'm wacky that way. I was also considering an attempt to "disguise" the PCs by swapping and rearranging their Forces between one another. But, that gets messy in terms of memories associated with Ethereal Forces. OTOH, it might just be easier to give them all "high-level desk jobs" in Hell. Personally, I believe that Saminga would show up automatically, give one of the characters a big kiss and grant him a distinction and grant the group and undead servant through whom the GM could guide them, harrass them, and join in the fun, so to speak. As for the huge disturbance, I doubt Saminga gives a crap. Why would Belial? I dunno, cause it's in his Dissonance condition not to have a plan backfire on you and it sounds like this certainly did. (Maybe just give the Fire Demon 2 points of Dissonance and everyone else 1 point of Dissonance because the huge fires will undoubtedly aid some little plant to grow better because of all added nutrients in the soil thanks to the ashes from the fires - that'll teach 'em. Dissonance all 'round!) - -Perry, Kyriotate of Flowers serving Creation perrylloyd@hotmail.com pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu http://www.geocities.com/llloyd.geo "And that's the hardest thing for a human being to do - be wrong. Do you know that people would rather die than be wrong?" - --from A Matter For Men by David Gerrold _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 02:26:34 -0000 From: "cassandra benner" Subject: Re: IN> ?DESTRUCTION? - -Snip- Hmm that much disturbance would probably have half the archangels turn up, most of the princes and then the big L or Kobal would probably walk through the carnage, sit at a ruined cafe and complain about the fact you just cant get the staff these days... Other than the dissonance the princes would probably be overjoyed at it all, especially saminga and belial. If i was the gm in that game i'd give one of the charecters the word of 'overkill' or the equivilant of 'never enough c12'. Cass - -There is no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole- Murphy's Law, Combatants Edition. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 21:54:58 -0500 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> ?DESTRUCTION? On 12/28/00 9:26 PM, "cassandra benner" alleged: > Other than the dissonance the princes would probably be overjoyed at it all, > especially saminga and belial. Mmmm... but the stated policy of the Princes is that they want to keep things hidden until they're ready for Armageddon. This isn't quiet. It's also the policy of Lucifer, and he might not be *too* pleased either... > If i was the gm in that game i'd give one of the charecters the word of > 'overkill' or the equivilant of 'never enough c12'. Whereas my Lucifer would give one of the characters the Word of Singed Gasoline Cans. (Or the Epithet of "He Who Puts His Head Into Artillery Barrels," if you use Epithets. ) - -- Eric A. Burns - in-sabre@annotations.com - http://www.annotations.com "Grown-ups never understand anything for themselves, and it is tiresome for children to be always and forever explaining things to them." - --Antonie de Saint-Exupery, "The Little Prince" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 04:15:13 +0100 From: "Philippe Bolay" Subject: Re: IN> That weird pen-artifact... > It's something Moe made up, IIRC. The Pen of Editing, which I _think_ I > may have alluded to once and he designed Great! Thanx! I wsa a little afraid to use it since it might have taken the fun outta some adventure Ill buy in the future otherwise. Now, Im using it in a slightly modified way. It's the pen of Nostradamus. N is actually an undead whos been around for ages. To get his predictions to be accurate he edits his original scripts AFTER stuff has actually happened. Now, a shedite under Kobal recently killed N to aquire the pen (thats why he didnt have time to edit the date of the worlds destruction to a later date now that we all know he was wrong). The shedite gave the pen to an insane woman at a mental institute in Austin (my chars had to have a reason to go there since Ive bought "NightMusic"). His plan is to find the original copy of the bible or at least something with a lot of impact on belief or philosophy and hand it to the same loonie for some major editing. Now, could anyone please give me some suggestions on how the various archs would react on this? Would they want the pen for themselves maybe? Or would they want it destroyed? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:54:42 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> If I could talk to the Animals... well, I'd probably have to apologize a lot. This one needs a little seasoning, I think. I like it, though, in a very odd sort of way. Comments would be useful, as always. :) Moe Duriel Kyriotate Friend of Beasts Corporeal Forces: 3 Strength: 6 Agility: 6 Ethereal Forces: 5 Intelligence:12 Precision: 8 Celestial Forces: 4 Will: 9 Perception: 7 Skills: Chemistry/3, Computer Operation/1, Dodge/2, Fighting/3, Knowledge (Biology/1, Biochemistry/1, Genetics/4, Genetic Engineering/4, Research/1), Medicine/4 Songs: Beasts (All/3), Entropy (Corporeal/3, Ethereal/3), Light (Celestial/1), Fruition (Corporeal/2), Machines (Celestial/1), Shields (Corporeal/2) Servant: human/3 (Diane Goodall, Soldier of Animals) Attunements: Kyriotate of Animals, Call of the Wild, Animal Magnetism, Friend of Beasts Duriel was once one of Vapula's rising stars. She (Duriel, even as a Shedite, had a fondness for the female gender) worked as a biological researcher, coming up with better killing through genetics. It was even said that she had a shot at the Word of Mutants. Her Redemption was a bit of a shock, as Duriel certainly didn't precisely like humans very much (something that's true even now, although it's nothing like her earlier loathing). Unfortunately, nobody checked to see whether she liked anything else. Duriel always seemed to have a way with animals: this ability was truly aberrant for a Shedite, so she kept it quiet. Unfortunately, she found herself feeling more and more empathy for the lab rats and monkeys she was using for her experiments, which is why she got out of Carcinogenic Cosmetics and into Genetic Research in the first place. Unfortunately, she was a very good genetic researcher, which caused her even more mental anguish. The last straw was when Vapula himself praised her latest line of research (a retrovirus that could boost neural tissue in most mammalian species). His insane cackling on how this would be perfect for the experimental animal/machine hybrid servitors he was currently obsessing over caused Duriel to get very quiet in her laboratory after her Prince left. This wasn't going to be good. Vapula was ready to turn the entire animal kingdom into a dangerous plaything for humanity: true, the idea of rampaging hunter-cyborgs eviscerating random mortals was tempting, but it would turn every other species on Earth into expendable resources. Unlike humans, the rest of Earth's species didn't deserve that kind of Fate. Screw it. Reliable rumor hinted that at least one Archangel had his priorities straight. Duriel very thoroughly trashed her laboratory (holding on to her best viral cultures) and ran for it. Duriel's Redemption was painful, and she very nearly didn't survive it (it didn't help that it was done by Jean). The new, weakened Kyriotate was adamant about serving Jordi, and despite some misgivings, the Council let her. They did insist that she get therapy from Servitors of Flowers, and despite herself Duriel came out of them with a somewhat healthier attitude towards humanity. She doesn't hate them anymore: she just thinks that most of them are fairly idiotic. This isn't exactly uncommon among angels, though, so what can you do? Still, working for Jordi was fun. The Archangel of Animals doesn't get many Servitors who originally served Technology, and Duriel was cooperation itself when pointing out new and better Tethers to firebomb. She soon rose in his service. When she thought the time was right, the Kyriotate started hinting delicately at a little project that she thought Jordi might find ... fruitful. It took a while to convince him, but the Archangel eventually allowed himself to be persuaded. The idea called to him, in spite of himself. Today, Duriel works in a very secret, very isolated Tether of Animals in the middle of the Amazon rainforest. Her servant (a very talented, albeit fanatical deep ecologist) acts as her sole assistant and set of hands. Duriel hopes to change that soon (although Diane is one of the few humans she really likes): her research is very promising. Before one gets ideas, Duriel isn't working on a virus designed to wipe out humanity, or any other form of genocide. That would be flaunting God's will. However, God didn't say anything about boosting the reasoning capacity of the rest of the animal kingdom. The virus cultures Duriel managed to hold on to were a good start, but she wants something more potent. Unlike most researchers, Duriel isn't interested in uplifting animals that can communicate with humans: as long as her charges can work together effectively, let the humans worry about how to talk to them. The angel is especially interested in uplifting insect colonies into a sort of collective consciousness: such a gestalt mind could be effectively immortal ... and a perfect recruit for Jordi. All of this must be done very carefully, of course, but Duriel eventually hopes to give countless species the opportunity to know and praise God. The fact that these species will also be able to more effectively demonstrate their objections to having their homes bulldozed by shortsighted humans is merely a serendipitous effect. ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/25/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 22:50:15 -0500 From: Walter Milliken Subject: Re: IN> GURPS In-Nomine At 1:33 -0500 12/29/00, Perry Lloyd wrote: >I would allow for a Celestial to appear as he sees himself in his mind's >eye. While this provides an interesting (and, AFAIK, appropriate) loop-hole >for Balseraphim to exploit, I feel that it would more accurately reflect the >true nature of the ethereal plane, where belief and thought shape the >landscape and the denizens which people it. I think that's roughly how canon now explains it. I think we put something like that in GURPS:IN, as well. >> I can never figure out why people need more than 100 points to be >>moderately potent.... > >Because they waste points on lots of silly things, like all the minor little >skills that their character /would/ have learned in college, like research, >mathematics, chemistry or biology, b.s.ing (a hobby skills), probably a >sport or hobby skill (gaming), and then there's all the _basic_ skills most >of us RL people have, like swimming, driving, AK(Cable-TV), Knowledge(Trek), >Basketball(hobby), AK(Local Area), and often people will take silly little >advantages which add up. Yes, and then you look at them, and say, "But I don't have 350 points, so I can't take all those" and you start pruning them down. I'm known for skill-heavy characters, and most of them have a bunch of useless (in game) skills, but most of them are still quite nasty as PCs, one way or another. Most of those hobby skills rate a 1/2-point at best, many of them are just general background knowledge, in the system. I tend to use (and list) default skills for some of them, where I think they're significant. Part of that is due to the GURPS mechanics jump in skill from default to 1/2 point level. > My girlfriend has a lot of bad >luck with dice (like, she almost never succeeds if there's a dice roll >involved, swear to God), so she's learned to roleplay her way through most >situations so that she wouldn't have to roll and dice for her character's >actions. I also have that problem, but I solved it by switching to electronic dice (random number generators in programmable calculators, mostly). >The Swiss Army Psi? Can I use this character in my GIN campaign as a CotG? >(Hint: Tell Me More) http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/characters/Fantasy/Sirona.html Another Swiss Army Psi (and the one that led us to coin the term) is: http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/characters/Space/XenoSolutions/Kelly.html >>(Okay, okay -- I wouldn't have missed the Giant Rat of Sumatra for the >>world...) > >???? You should mean Talon (unoriginal I know, its what my unconscious game >me), the Huge Rat (angel of Jordi) who blew the whistle on them consorting >with Children of the Grigori as well as creating the /huge/ disturbances in >Chicago. Actually, Maya ran a one-shot IN game for us, set in San Francisco somewhat after the gold rush. There was a Kyrio in it with the Celestial Song of Form (I think he may have been a Creationer), who used it to change the size of a rat vessel he was using, to spook some humans working with the demons we were after. At least, I think that's how it went. - ---Walter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 23:02:32 -0500 From: Walter Milliken Subject: Re: Make the hurting stop! (WAS: Re: IN> Blandine Gets Proactive) At 6:31 +0000 12/28/00, I. Inayat wrote: >But Urd... I dunno. Ex-Servitor of Lust, now IST Eli? Well, her origin is supposedly that she *is* half-demon. Personally, I'd bet on her being an offsping of Lilith and Eli. Probably IST the Wind. >Definitely maps to an Ofanite, though... Or maybe a Bright Lilim, though if she is, her Perception is pretty awful. Might also be a Mercurian, clothes-horse that she is. >(Any guesses on what Band Mara is?) Might be a Habbalite or Impudite (she's another clothes-horse, and likes to be noticed), but a Lilim may be more likely -- she seems to be able to call on favors from various people. Another one with lousy Perception, though -- she probably has to make explicit deals, mostly. - ---Walter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 22:27:47 -0500 From: damienw@juno.com Subject: Re: Make the hurting stop! (WAS: Re: IN> Blandine Gets Proactive) On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 06:31:36 -0000 "I. Inayat" writes: > > Hey, and then there's IN: Oh My Goddess, which maps rather > > well into In Nomine when all is said and done; Belldandy's > > a pretty dead ringer for either a Cherub or Mercurian of > > Destiny... > > And Skuld's a Malakite of Lightning. Or she'll fledge that way. > But Urd... I dunno. Ex-Servitor of Lust, now IST Eli? > Definitely maps to an Ofanite, though... > (Any guesses on what Band Mara is?) Habbalah doesn't seem too far-fetched; she's emotional enough. (However, unlike canon Habbalah, she's a demon and she KNOWS it.) Calabim would also be possible; she has that kind of destructive streak. (And as for Urd, she's half-demon, half-goddess. Perhaps a Creationer who was formed from the remaining Forces of a Servitor of Lust who didn't quite make it through Redemption?) Hey, since the three ARE based on the Norns, you could also posit that they're Etherials serving Heaven, either original or the newest incarnation of the whole Triple Goddess motif. Or two sets, one for each background. }:) - --- damienw[et]juno.com "To kill a man between panels is to condemn him to a thousand deaths." - Scott McCloud ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 21:36:23 -0500 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Arisia On 12/22/00 9:03 PM, "Walter Milliken" alleged: > At 2:55 -0400 12/19/00, Douglas Muir wrote: >> Well, I'm going. Will I see any of you there? > > Elizabeth and I expect to be there, though we won't be on panels this > year (the baby requires too much attention). We'll show up at the SJGames > Roundtable, if there is one on the schedule. > Weirdly, I *am* on panels this year. Come to the Online Journalling presentation. Drink deep of the Online Journalling goodness. > We *might* be talked into doing an IN game; that can be worked around the > baby to a sufficient extent, and Elizabeth's feeling gaming-deprived.... If nothing else, we clearly need an IN-List dinner at some point. - -- Eric A. Burns - in-sabre@annotations.com - http://www.annotations.com Whistling in the Dark "It was then I felt my heart break like a fragile Scooby Snack upon the harsh teeth of Reality -- and it's been broken ever since." - --Johnny Bravo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 21:03:34 -0500 From: Walter Milliken Subject: Re: IN> Arisia At 2:55 -0400 12/19/00, Douglas Muir wrote: >Well, I'm going. Will I see any of you there? Elizabeth and I expect to be there, though we won't be on panels this year (the baby requires too much attention). We'll show up at the SJGames Roundtable, if there is one on the schedule. We *might* be talked into doing an IN game; that can be worked around the baby to a sufficient extent, and Elizabeth's feeling gaming-deprived.... (Pregnancy and babies tend to interfere with gaming life for a while. Not to mention finishing GURPS:IN.) - ---Walter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 23:21:35 -0500 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: IN> Ulp. There were some accidential misredirects back to the list of some old pieces of mail. I'm responsible. It's my *fault,* blast it! Blast you *all!* Er.... That is, I'm sorry. T'won't happen again - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 21:17:55 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> That weird pen-artifact... Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 12:33:06 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> That weird pen-artifact... >>Its a pen that has some powerfull properties. If you >>use it to change the text in any book, it >>automatically changes the text in all >>issues. Is this artifact from an IN expansion, or is >>it just something that someone on the list made up? >It's something Moe made up, IIRC. The Pen of Editing, >which I _think_ I may have alluded to once and he >designed. (Unless I've just sideslipped universes >again, into one where he _didnt't_ do that.) Sorta. I _did_ write up a artifact pen that combined the best qualities of a pen, a flaming sword and a talsiman, but I didn't map out the Superior version (wielded by both the AA of Archives and the DP of Nitpicking, at least according to me). There's a similar ability for the DP of Nitpicking, at http://new.sjgames.com/in-nomine/articles/INChar/Demons/Prince.Beth.html and, of course, if you need to see the ARRTP, it's at http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine/artifacts/ARRTP.htm Hope that helps. :) Moe ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/25/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 21:33:40 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> The Angel of Second Chances Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 15:24:51 -0500From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> The Angel of Second Chances Great. A happy, shiny Christopher Walken. That's _all_ the universe needs. :) Moe PS Yeah, yeah, I liked it. It made me laugh. :) ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/25/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 22:42:46 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Eng Subject: IN> Does anybody have spare space in their imagination? You see, I've just finished re-reading _WereHunter_, a collection of short stories by Mercedes Lackey... ...and somebody mentioned the idea of Kyrios of Children being able to possess toys... ...and what came to mind was an angel of children who has Numinous Corpus: Claws, and a hobby of possessing teddy bears... ...but I don't have any idea how to write this one up. Peter Eng ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 12:20:54 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: Re: IN> GURPS In-Nomine > >I would allow for a Celestial to appear as he sees himself in his mind's > >eye. While this provides an interesting (and, AFAIK, appropriate) >loop-hole > >for Balseraphim to exploit, I feel that it would more accurately reflect >the > >true nature of the ethereal plane, where belief and thought shape the > >landscape and the denizens which people it. > >I think that's roughly how canon now explains it. I think we put something >like that in GURPS:IN, as well. Good. [skills and high pt cost] > >Yes, and then you look at them, and say, "But I don't have 350 points, >so I can't take all those" and you start pruning them down. I'm known >for skill-heavy characters, and most of them have a bunch of useless >(in game) skills, but most of them are still quite nasty as PCs, one >way or another. > >Most of those hobby skills rate a 1/2-point at best, many of them are >just general background knowledge, in the system. I tend to use >(and list) default skills for some of them, where I think they're >significant. Part of that is due to the GURPS mechanics jump in skill >from default to 1/2 point level. Yeah, I . . . don't like that. I've often considered just making ALL physical skills have a .5/1/2/4/8 . . . level cost progression and just start the PC off at defaut level and let them buy themselves up. Mental skills would be a .5/1/2/4/6/8 progression doing the same thing. The M/VH skills I guess would just have a different chart . . . I dunno, 'cause it'd really throw point totals out of whack, I would imagine. > > My girlfriend has a lot of bad > >luck with dice (like, she almost never succeeds if there's a dice roll > >involved, swear to God), so she's learned to roleplay her way through >most > >situations so that she wouldn't have to roll and dice for her character's > >actions. > >I also have that problem, but I solved it by switching to electronic dice >(random number generators in programmable calculators, mostly). Hrm. I've got one on my PC at my house. Maye we'll try it next game, thanks for the idea. > >The Swiss Army Psi? Can I use this character in my GIN campaign as a >CotG? > >(Hint: Tell Me More) > >http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/characters/Fantasy/Sirona.html very cool. >Another Swiss Army Psi (and the one that led us to coin the term) is: > >http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/characters/Space/XenoSolutions/Kelly.html excellent thanks [rats] >Actually, Maya ran a one-shot IN game for us, set in San Francisco somewhat >after the gold rush. There was a Kyrio in it with the Celestial Song of >Form (I think he may have been a Creationer), who used it to change the >size of a rat vessel he was using, to spook some humans working with the >demons we were after. At least, I think that's how it went. sweeet - -Perry perrylloyd@hotmail.com pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu http://www.geocities.com/llloyd.geo "And that's the hardest thing for a human being to do - be wrong. Do you know that people would rather die than be wrong?" - --from A Matter For Men by David Gerrold _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 09:28:11 -0500 From: damienw@juno.com Subject: Re: IN> Does anybody have spare space in their imagination? On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 22:42:46 -0800 (PST) Peter Eng writes: > ...and what came to mind was an angel of children who has Numinous > Corpus: Claws, and a hobby of possessing teddy bears... > > ...but I don't have any idea how to write this one up. There's a game company, Accursed Toys, whose logo is an evil-looking teddy bear with a butcher knife in its chest... and the teddy is bleeding. A Shedite with this particular hobby and ability might be even more interesting... although whether it would get a lot of dissonance or none at all is debateable. It's hard to corrupt a teddy bear. - --- damienw[et]juno.com "To kill a man between panels is to condemn him to a thousand deaths." - Scott McCloud ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 14:14:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> If I could talk to the Animals... well, I'd probably have to apologize a lot. On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Maurice Lane wrote: > This one needs a little seasoning, I think. I like it, > though, in a very odd sort of way. Comments would be > useful, as always. I envy your creative juices, Moe. Ex-Vapulan serving Jordi... and, dammit, it makes PERFECT sense. But, isn't artificially raising the level of intelligence in a species going against God's will as well? - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! "Cold is God's way of telling us to burn more Catholics." -- Lady Whiteadder, Blackadder II ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 16:00:08 -0600 From: Santiago Subject: Re: IN> Does anybody have spare space in their imagination? >>...and what came to mind was an angel of children who has Numinous >>Corpus: Claws, and a hobby of possessing teddy bears... > > There's a game company, Accursed Toys, whose logo is >an evil-looking teddy bear with a butcher knife in its >chest... and the teddy is bleeding. > > A Shedite with this particular hobby and ability might >be even more interesting... although whether it would get >a lot of dissonance or none at all is debateable. It's hard >to corrupt a teddy bear. Well, in such a case I think it might work to have the teddy bear corrupt its owner. If you can convince the kid that has the teddy bear to do something that counts as corruption, then I'd say that the dissonance requirement it fulfilled. After all, lots of children would follow the sage advice of their little furry friend... - -- Santiago ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 15:14:35 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> If I could talk to the Animals... well, I'd probably have to apologize a lot. - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > Duriel > Kyriotate Friend of Beasts Once again, Moe, you are the Keeper of the Cool Points. [snip] > Servant: human/3 (Diane Goodall, Soldier of Animals) This was an especially nice touch. Considering that Durie's a Kyrio, though, why'd you go with two primatologists? Those choices would make more sense if she was a Mercurian. Then again, I can't name two famous female entomologists, either. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "...faith is only pure when it does not negate the faith of another." -- Eli Weisel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 15:23:18 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Does anybody have spare space in their imagination? - --- damienw@juno.com wrote: > A Shedite with this particular hobby and ability might > be even more interesting... although whether it would get > a lot of dissonance or none at all is debateable. It's hard > to corrupt a teddy bear. True -- but corrupting a child _through_ a teddy bear is another matter. Sounds like a job for an Imp of Nightmares... ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "...faith is only pure when it does not negate the faith of another." -- Eli Weisel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 00:51:19 -0400 From: pbarkow@is2.dal.ca Subject: IN> A bit of In Nomine inspired nonsense, enjoy! I was looking through my old archives and came across this. I wrote it a few months before I'd joined this list. It's not very impressive, but I figure it's worth a smile. "So you admit to having had direct contact with a demon?" "Yes, that is correct." "And yet you did not attempt engage the demon in combat?" "No, I did not." "Are you not oath bound to engage demons in combat whenever you encounter them?" "Yes, I am." "Then why I didn't you?" "I was paying off a debt. My honor necessitated it." "And how did you come to be indebted to a demon?" "He saved the life of one of my servants." "We'll come back to the circumstances of how a demon came to save the life of one of your servants. Did you pay the debt to the demon?" "Yes, I did." "What did the demon desire from you in order to pay off the debt?" "He wanted to do my hair." "The demon wanted to do your hair?" "Yes, he said I had beautiful hair." "So you allowed the demon to do your hair?" "Yes, he did a nice job too." "I see." "French braids actually." "30) Love is when you stare at each other from across the dinner table and make suggestive Pikachu noises at each other... While guests are present." -Mini Philip Barkow pbarkow@is2.dal.ca http://is2.dal.ca/~pbarkow/ Harbinger of Keener-sama Vice President DPG Official Fashion Consultant and Hentai of the DGML Shameless Faith/Buffy shipper. Lapsed Discordian Head of the Keiko-chanian faction ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #1997 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2000 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.