From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Wed Feb 23 15:16:24 2000 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA27244 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:16:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id PAA06925 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:10:59 -0600 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:10:59 -0600 Message-Id: <200002232110.PAA06925@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1536 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Wednesday, February 23 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1536 In this digest: Re: IN> Resonance and Remnants IN> Habbalah, Elohim and Dissonance Re: IN> Habbalah, Elohim and Dissonance IN> [NPC] Shoshanna Re: IN> Habbalah, Elohim and Dissonance Re: IN> Dead air? Re: IN> Dead air? IN> Elizabeth/Iolanthe update (last one here) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:46:49 -0600 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> Resonance and Remnants kobal wrote: > > I was wondering how celestials' resonance deals with Remnants. They don't. (Actually, Perception-based resonances don't -- a Will-based resonance will affect a Remnant normally.) >>>I'm> assuming that a celestial won't automatically know that they're dealing> with a Remnant, but will their resonance show that something is > not...quite...right? No, they (angels, anyway) probably will know that they're dealing with a Remnant, because their resonance gets NOTHING on them. It just draws a blank. Which can only happen with a Remnant under normal circumstances. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:10:51 +1100 From: "Leath Sheales" Subject: IN> Habbalah, Elohim and Dissonance Dear List, Something I've been wondering for a while, but haven't been able to find anywhere in the books: when a Habbalite uses its resonance on an Elohite (who has a penalty to resisting it), does (or can) the Elohite suffer dissonance for acting on the emotions induced in it? For example, Elohite Joe is interrogating Human Steve by roughing him up a little (Joe's Resonance indicated that Steve would respond best to this method). Habbalite Lobonaxelfaar grins and induces Anger in Joe, succeeding. Joe grows frustrated with Steve's answers and proceeds to smack him around the head until he is dead. He then spends several minutes kicking the corpse in frustration. Does this cause dissonance? Leath. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:18:08 PST From: "Erich Arendall" Subject: Re: IN> Habbalah, Elohim and Dissonance >Dear List, > >Something I've been wondering for a while, but haven't been able to find >anywhere in the books: when a Habbalite uses its resonance on an Elohite >(who has a penalty to resisting it), does (or can) the Elohite suffer >dissonance for acting on the emotions induced in it? > >For example, Elohite Joe is interrogating Human Steve by roughing him up a >little (Joe's Resonance indicated that Steve would respond best to this >method). Habbalite Lobonaxelfaar grins and induces Anger in Joe, >succeeding. Joe grows frustrated with Steve's answers and proceeds to >smack >him around the head until he is dead. He then spends several minutes >kicking the corpse in frustration. > >Does this cause dissonance? > >Leath. > > I'd have to say that that the Elohite would suffer dissonance, especially in the example you presented. Not because the Elohite (Joe) suffered emotion, or because he killed a person, but because he killed a person out of an emotional outburst. If Joe had recognized the anger and stepped back until the emotion had faded then he would not have gained dissonance. If an Elohite acts on the emotions induced by the Habbalite resonance then he takes Dissonance, as if he were acting on emotions that were in him naturally. Just my take on the Elohite perspective. Your results may vary with usage and abuse. - -Erich S. Arendall "Shadow Sprite" Impudite of Critical Failures at the Worst Possible Time for Players and the Best Time for GMs, servitor of Kronos - ------------------------- Foaming at the Mouth http://rpg.net/news+reviews/sprite.html Touched by an Impudite http://www.insync.net/~sprite/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:45:12 PST From: "Jo Hart" Subject: IN> [NPC] Shoshanna "There is sweet music here that softer falls Than petals from blown roses on the grass, Or night-dews on still waters between walls Of shadowy granite, in a gleaming pass; Music that gentlier on the spirit lies, Than tir'd eyelids upon tir'd eyes; Music that brings sweet sleep down from the blissful skies." - -- Tennyson, The Lotos Eaters Shoshanna, Menunite Servitor of Dream Corporeal Forces 2 Str 4 Agil 4 Ethereal Forces 3 Int 6 Pre 6 Celestial Forces 4 Will 9 Per 7 Vessel: Human/2 (old woman) Role: Susan Lammas, Retired Nursing Assistant (Level 2/ Status 1) Skills: Knowledge (Gardening/2), Emote/4, Dodge/2, Detect Lies/2, Singing/1 Songs: Healing (Corporeal/2, Ethereal/5) Attunements: Menunite of Dream, Dream Walking Once, many decades ago, Shoshanna (the name means "a garden Rose" fell in love with a mortal dreamscape. She was a very young angel then -- brimful with hope, and zeal, and wonderment at humanity. In the dreamscape was a beautiful garden, in which it was always Summer. To her Menunite sense, the garden was rich with shining hopes, which had never been touched by fear. Of course, the garden didn't appear n every single dream scene, but there was usually some aspect of it to be found. One night, Shoshanna met a young boy in the garden, and assumed he was a manifestation of the dreamer. He offered her one of the red roses from the garden as a gift, but would not pull it from its stem. As the angel reached out to pluck the flower she had been given, she heard the rose scream with pain. The fear of death entered the garden like a chill fog, and the Summer turned to Winter in an instant, even as she watched. The boy anished, with a laugh. Clutching the rose to herself tightly, Shoshanna fled, weeping with fear for what she had done, and the harm which had been brought to the dreamer she loved. It was Blandine herself who came looking for her errant Menunite, saying simply, "Walk with me awhile, daughter, and show me that flower that you bear . . ." The young angel confessed everything - her love and her fear and her guilt - and threw herself on the Archangel's mercy. Blandine listened gravely, before pronouncing sentence. Shoshanna was to be sent to Earth, to try to put right the wrong she had done, and to help humanity to overcome the fear of death. The angel was granted a vessel which would age in the same way as a human, and a low-level role as an immigrant worker. As a nursing assistant, she quietly ministered to the old and the dying, trying wherever she could to bring hope into their lives, and joy into their hearts. Susan is an old woman now, her hands dappled with liver spots and shaking with palsy. But, as she gently reminds those who would dismiss her out of hand, "I'm not dead yet, dear." She can be surprisingly spritely, when called upon. She lives in a retirement home, and teaches her mortal companions there how to enjoy the play of sunlight on their skin and the scent of flowers that they had sown, even if only by example. Even though their bodies are beginning to fail them, few of the old people with whom she lives ever truly lose hope in life. Although she would not recognise it herself, her gentle appreciation of life has made her much-loved by the other staff and residents, although, as befits a Menunite, she never tries to interfere with their lives, and never demands their attention. She has learned the lesson of humility, and waits humbly for her Superior to visit her one day, and relieve her of the aging, rheumatic vessel. (Shoshanna is a balanced starting character. She still doesn't know if the boy she met in dreams was one of Beleth's demons, or a mischievous ethereal who harbors some grudge -- but all through her mortal life, he has been casually plagueing her and any mortal acquaintances. It's only recently that she has anything approaching evidence... and if she could find a way, she would like very much to take the fight to the enemy.) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:03:50 EST From: MarkDEddy@aol.com Subject: Re: IN> Habbalah, Elohim and Dissonance In a message dated 02/22/2000 2:03:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, lsheal01@postoffice.csu.edu.au writes: > Dear List, > > Something I've been wondering for a while, but haven't been able to find > anywhere in the books: when a Habbalite uses its resonance on an Elohite > (who has a penalty to resisting it), does (or can) the Elohite suffer > dissonance for acting on the emotions induced in it? Short form: Yes. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 05:26:55 PST From: "Micheal Knight" Subject: Re: IN> Dead air? > Is the list dead, or am I no longer subscribed? We're hanging low, because servitors of Saminga are easily fooled into thinking we're dead. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:03:44 -0500 From: "Gregory Gietzen" Subject: Re: IN> Dead air? > > Is the list dead, or am I no longer subscribed? We're being quiet, so as not to wake the baby. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:11:02 -0500 From: Walter Milliken Subject: IN> Elizabeth/Iolanthe update (last one here) I've put up a link on my web page at http://www.io.com/~milliken which has a couple of Iolanthe pictures (with parents). Further updates will be done there or on Elizabeth's pages. Quick summary: both are doing well, we may be back home (though not with Iolanthe yet!) around the end of this week. So Elizabeth may be back online around then. - ---Walter ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #1536 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2000 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.